I am more confused after watching this video than before it.

@Lifesizemortal

3 жыл бұрын

because it isn't a paradox. it's a misconception being paraded as a paradox.

@InVINCEab13

3 жыл бұрын

@Axel Titus oh wow Axel, tell us more!

The real paradox is why I'm still subbed after this video

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

Good point, I just unsubscribed. I’ve been here for 3 or 4 years and it’s been like a year since a good video. Oh well 😕

@artistsometimes2729

3 жыл бұрын

one video you don't like and you all jump ship xD

@BatCaveOz

Жыл бұрын

I'm not.

Could you please make a video about the Elevator paradox, where you explain what it is and why it's a paradox? That'd be an interesting idea for a video I think.

This has got to be an AI generated script!

I think the part people are confused about is why the perception is the way it is. It's a lot like how something is ALWAYS in the last place you look for it because you stop looking once you find it. You don't look at elevators once you've found one that's usable to you, most of the ones that are not usable are going to be going UP if you are high in the building, most of the elevators that are not usable to you are going to be going DOWN if you are low in the building.

So what I got from this is: Conan O'Brien is going to star in a remake of "Charlie and the Glass Elevator"?

It’s like they just put out anything to get a video out even though they didn’t have an idea. I thought they were finally getting to something when they talked about the perspectives, that all made sense. But then what was that ending about? Did they just not know what to do? Is it another riddle? Did I miss something that was supposed to explain it? 🤷🏻‍♀️

@artistsometimes2729

3 жыл бұрын

oh no, everything has to make perfect sense.

@TheHumbleBeez

3 жыл бұрын

It was just a joke about the character they set up at the beginning not believing the perspectives expiation lmao

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@artistsometimes2729 Yeah, pretty much, it’s kinda the point. And when something is left ambiguous it’s usually pretty clear that it was intentional. Here, it just looked like they closed the book on the 2nd to last page. This isn’t the typical quality or style of video for this channel. It might work well elsewhere, but here? No.

I thought it was just the intro still. I was excited to learn more. And then the video ended.

Why would George assume the elevator is always going down?

what happened to this channel?

The real paradox here is why I spent double of the video's time in reading the comments?

@anthonyitaliano7316

3 жыл бұрын

Paradox doesn't mean what you think it means...

--- The Elevator Paradox: Explained --- The elevator paradox is a paradox first noted by Marvin Stern and George Gamow, physicists who had offices on different floors of a multi-story building. Gamow, who had an office near the bottom of the building noticed that the first elevator to stop at his floor was most often going down, while Stern, who had an office near the top, noticed that the first elevator to stop at his floor was most often going up. At first sight, this created the impression that perhaps elevator cars were being manufactured in the middle of the building and sent upwards to the roof and downwards to the basement to be dismantled. Clearly this was not the case. But how could the observation be explained? --- Modeling the elevator problem --- Near the top floor, elevators to the top come down shortly after they go up. Several attempts (beginning with Gamow and Stern) were made to analyze the reason for this phenomenon: the basic analysis is simple, while detailed analysis is more difficult than it would at first appear. Simply, if one is on the top floor of a building, all elevators will come from below (none can come from above), and then depart going down, while if one is on the second from top floor, an elevator going to the top floor will pass first on the way up, and then shortly afterward on the way down - thus, while an equal number will pass going up as going down, downwards elevators will generally shortly follow upwards elevators (unless the elevator idles on the top floor), and thus the first elevator observed will usually be going up. The first elevator observed will be going down only if one begins observing in the short interval after an elevator has passed going up, while the rest of the time the first elevator observed will be going up. In more detail, the explanation is as follows: a single elevator spends most of its time in the larger section of the building, and thus is more likely to approach from that direction when the prospective elevator user arrives. An observer who remains by the elevator doors for hours or days, observing every elevator arrival, rather than only observing the first elevator to arrive, would note an equal number of elevators traveling in each direction. This then becomes a sampling problem - the observer is sampling stochastically a non uniform interval. To help visualize this, consider a thirty-story building, plus lobby, with only one slow elevator. The elevator is so slow because it stops at every floor on the way up, and then on every floor on the way down. It takes a minute to travel between floors and wait for passengers. Here is the arrival schedule for people unlucky enough to work in this building; as depicted above, it forms a triangle wave: Floor Time on way up Time on way down Lobby 8:00, 9:00, ... n/a 1st floor 8:01, 9:01, ... 8:59, 9:59, ... 2nd floor 8:02, 9:02, ... 8:58, 9:58, ... ... ... ... 29th floor 8:29, 9:29, ... 8:31, 9:31, ... 30th floor n/a 8:30, 9:30, ... If you were on the first floor and walked up randomly to the elevator, chances are the next elevator would be heading down. The next elevator would be heading up only during the first two minutes at each hour, e.g., at 9:00 and 9:01. The number of elevator stops going upwards and downwards are the same, but the probability that the next elevator is going up is only 2 in 60. A similar effect can be observed in railway stations where a station near the end of the line will likely have the next train headed for the end of the line. --- More than one elevator --- If there is more than one elevator in a building, the bias decreases - since there is a greater chance that the intending passenger will arrive at the elevator lobby during the time that at least one elevator is below them; with an infinite number of elevators, the probabilities would be equal. In the example above, if there are 30 floors and 58 elevators, so at every minute there are 2 elevators on each floor, one going up and one going down (save at the top and bottom), the bias is eliminated - every minute, one elevator arrives going up and another going down. This also occurs with 30 elevators spaced 2 minutes apart - on odd floors they alternate up/down arrivals, while on even floors they arrive simultaneously every two minutes. --- The real-world case --- In a real building, there are complicated factors such as: the tendency of elevators to be frequently required on the ground or first floor, and to return there when idle; lopsided demand where everyone wants to go down at the end of the day; people on the lower floors being more willing to take the stairs; or the way full elevators ignore external floor-level calls. These factors tend to shift the frequency of observed arrivals, but do not eliminate the paradox entirely. In particular, a user very near the top floor will perceive the paradox even more strongly, as elevators are infrequently present or required above their floor. --- References --- "Digital Dice: Computational Solutions to Practical Probability Problems: Amazon.de: Paul J. Nahin: Amazon.de". www.amazon.de. Retrieved 2019-09-04. Knuth, Donald E. (July 1969). "The Gamow-Stern Elevator Problem". Journal of Recreational Mathematics. Baywood Publishing Company, Inc. 2: 131-137. ISSN 0022-412X. Martin Gardner, Knotted Doughnuts and Other Mathematical Entertainments, chapter 10. W H Freeman & Co.; (October 1986). ISBN 0-7167-1799-9. Martin Gardner, Aha! Gotcha, page 96. W H Freeman & Co.; 1982. ISBN 0-7167-1414-0 Marvin Stern, George Gamow, Puzzle Math, Viking Press; 1958. ISBN 0-670-58335-9 Donald E. Knuth, Selected Papers on Fun & Games, CSLI Publications; 2011. ISBN 1-575-86584-X en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_paradox

@MarlyTati

3 жыл бұрын

and now ladies and gentlemen, this is THE GOOD STUFF! Thank You

Okay Mr. Wonka.

0:47 alas is usually meant to express grief or pity. I think you want to use the opposite

@TheGoodStuff

3 жыл бұрын

weird

@cptkirkpyro5656

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodStuff more effort was put into that reply than the video...

@TheGoodStuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@cptkirkpyro5656 Cool!

What

One guy getting very confused, writing it down and getting it published. [citation needed]

This video is simply a pretty fun way to explain a situation where human pattern recognition can work against our ability to come to logical conclusions. Sure, this isn't an amazing video, but that is just because it wasn't trying to be anything more than it needed to be. I don't understand all this crazy negativity about this video from so many people...

Is this a joke that I'm not getting?

What the hell was this even about?

You need more elevators.. 😄

I for one enjoyed the (and then he flew away) ending because I definitely did not see it coming hahaha -- especially the "get to the bottom of this" line

lmao wth

Um. What? This lacks so much logic. So once Mr. I Work on the top floor was done working did he jump out a window or did he go on an elevator going... down? I mean......

Elevator in the sky

this channel used to be super interesting and had direction...i dont want the hell happened in the last few years....its almost as if youre doing it out of necessity now

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. I’ve been subbed for 3 or 4 years and just finally left. It’s be at least a year since a good video, plus they are spaced farther and farther apart. It seems like they have been done with the whole KZread thing and only make a video when they need a quick couple of bucks.

What did I just watch??

I mean, yeah, but you've not really told us anything it feels like

Wtf did we just watch?

Lol, the subtle-not-so-subtle snark :p

Why was this video panned so hard Edit: Ah, i see.

man this channel used to be so good...

what........what??

What the hell was that pointless thing? At least tell us how it was solved.

@timseguine2

3 жыл бұрын

They explained the resolution of the paradox right before they said "that's just what the nerds want you to think". The ending sequence was just supposed to be humorous.

So.... if you're on the top floor you will only encounter elevators going up because any elevator going down would be the one you actually take. It's the same as why your car keys are always in the last place you are looking for them; after that you stop looking.

If i`m watching elevator pointer - no mater where i`m standing - I`m seeing it moving. Why you assume that when I`m at top floor I can`t see elevator moving up? When I`m calling elevator I would see it rising. Or when someone run away in elevator and I miss it - I would see it going down. This video is somehow strange.

Did you guys change channel name?

Lmao this video is amazing.

If he takes the elevator going up to the highest floor, which is directly above him, it will stop at the highest floor, then it will automatically go down.

Uuuh.... What??

You are not Roald Dahl.

*confused Pikachu*

This is not reality. And I’m saddened because of it.

You're on the second highest floor and the elevator is always going up? Wouldn't it make sense that the fewest amount of people would be going to the topmost floor? And even if it always was always going up, it's only going up one floor. That's a shorter time in the elevator than it would take you to reach the ground, regardless of how much of a hurry you're in. This is a really dumb so-called paradox.

@TheGoodStuff

3 жыл бұрын

Nope!

@psyenz8946

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodStuff YES!

@firstname405

3 жыл бұрын

Someone didn't listen *coughmaverncough*

@FirelordJade

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodStuff I feel this question needs more of an answer than nope.

How much DMT did you guys take halfway through the video? WAT

Solution: Eat the Big Cheeses.

Solution from planner: more elevator, provide floor lobbies every x amount of floor.

I don't really agree with this analysis. If you want to go up, you wait and see elevators going down until one is going up and you take it. So it's always a sequence of down, down... down, up. You only see one up because you take it and the next ones are probably up too but you don't see them because you are gone. If you don't take the first up and keep waiting, you'll see the same number of ups and downs (an elevator stopping at your level and reversing direction is counted twice as up and down or down and up)

You just hate these people like the average guy

Wat...

I love how people can get so mad over a 3 minute youtube video xD

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think mad is the word, more like disappointed. There is nothing inherently wrong with the video, it’s just not up to the standards this channel put forth for years. People are watching a channel they liked die. This just doesn’t have the substance it used to.

@artistsometimes2729

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavenFilms I like that they made something controversial; it doesn't always have to meet expectations. I think they were getting at something more than an 'explains' video, you just missed the point. But that's just my interpretation.

I'm going to do you a big favour and not dislike this video

@duffman18

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't you know, disliking videos does the EXACT same thing on KZread videos that liking videos does? It's there to prevent brigading from having a negative effect. Dislikes on a video do the _EXACT_ same thing as likes, they promote the channel to the same extent likes do, they get it recommended to way more people just like likes do, all to the same extent that liking a video does. If counts as equal "engagement" with a video. That's all that matters. If you dislike a video you're actually HELPING that channel, not hurting it. The absolute most damage you can do to a video is to not engage with it whatsoever. You don't watch it, you don't like or dislike the video, you don't make a comment, you don't like any other comments. That's no engagement. So it's the worst damage you can do to a video. If you have already watched it, well you can limit your engagement by just doing nothing else, leave the page, don't click anything cos anything you click or comment on that video is engagement and so it helps them, doesn't matter if your comment is negative and gets 1000 likes. That's 1000 little portions of help and engagement you're giving to that channel. But people don't seem to understand this and mass dislike certain videos thinking "haha that'll show them". It's MUCH much easier to get mass dislikes on a video than it is to get the same amount of likes on that video. That's what makes channels like Logan Paul and Jake Paul are so huge. They deliberately be annoying and controversial dickheads, because that way they get all the fools thinking "haha I hate these guys, I'm gonna dislike the video and leave a negative comment". Everyone falls for it, every time. The Paul brothers know exactly what they're doing. Logan Paul's suicide forest video quite literally boosted his channels popularity and earned him a few million dollars in a matter of weeks, that's not an exaggeration. And so because dislikes are the exact same thing as likes, on a video, that gets their videos recommended to millions of people who wouldn't otherwise have ever seen it, and so they get millions of views. And millions of dollars too, real cash from the ads. It all counts. Side note: dislikes on _comments_ actually do nothing at all. Seriously. It's purely an aesthetic thing. Dislikes on comments aren't even counted. They don't reduce the amount of likes on a comment. They don't do anything at all. So it's entirely pointless to ever dislike a comment. All that happens is you see the thumbs down symbol fill in completely. Only you can see that. But yeah dislikes on _videos_ is one of the absolute best things you can do to help that channel out, get the video recommended to more people, and so earn the content creator more and more money from ads.

@TheGoodStuff

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. This is not the kind of audience this human wants. Be gone! But this is very illuminating into how the KZread algorithm works. It prefers thumbs down.

@MaakaSakuranbo

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodStuff The algorithm sees that heavily downvotes stuff attract more viewers which want to downvote. Doesn't mean downvotes are good in the long-term. Generally, if subscribers downvote, that means they didn't like the video. If they don't like many videos, they may decide to unsubscribe.

WTF

uh..... huh?

Um, whut? lol

waht

Uhm april fools was at the beggining of the month, why did you post this joke of a video so late?

An interesting paradox, but the constantly bouncing animation is almost nauseating

I do not recognise the paradox, nor the explanation.

i made it until 1:28 and i don't see where this is going

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

It went nowhere, you didn’t miss anything

What?

Wth?

???...

Unsubbed. Don't remember the last good vid from this channel. Maybe the algorithm just didn't show it to me.

This is.... irrelevant.

Can an elevator always be going up? Depending on your position in a building, it can seem that way . . . Enjoy!

@anthonyitaliano7316

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly man...what happened to this channel? I haven't subscribed for very long, but after searching through your videos by popularity, you were consistently hitting 300k views for awhile there, and the content was completely different; you were even making videos for PBS! Your channel is essentially dead now that your making these 3 minute animated videos that lack much substance. I don't understand why there's no more vlogging type videos where the hosts show their faces. The voice narration sounds different too, so the only explanation I can think of is that you bought this channel from the original creators.

@BatCaveOz

Жыл бұрын

I watched my beautiful Mother pass, painfully, from bowel cancer. It was better than watching this video.

'most were being utilised' When did we start using this word instead of the word 'used'?

@ARTexplains

3 жыл бұрын

I think you mean "when did we begin utilizing this sentence component"

@JB_inks

3 жыл бұрын

@@ARTexplains ha ha yes! I'm sorry for utilising the a small word when a diminutive one will suffice.

@TheGoodStuff

3 жыл бұрын

Ok I'll bite. The word 'utilize' does not have the exact same connotation as 'used.' That's why you never see a lot full of 'utilized' cars. While 'used' would've sufficed in this circumstance, it didn't have the exact same connotation I wanted to communicate. (and although I don't really remember, 'utilize' was probably the word that first came to mind). Ask pedantic questions, get pedantic answers.

@JB_inks

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodStuff I like pedantic answers. That's how I learn stuff.

Came for wheezy but I gotta unsub after this

Why hello! Welcome to the most bafflingly controversial video I have ever created! No, it's not the one about guns. Nor is it the socialism one. It's not even the one about not having kids being good for the environment. No, it's the one about a funny observation two guys made about elevators. TW: THERE IS A SILLY ENDING. Enjoy!

@firstname405

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I don't know why all these incels are being so reactionary

@SomeBoyAndHisMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@theGoodStuff is this an AI generated script?

@RavenFilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@firstname405 Because this video doesn’t have the quality or substance that videos on this channel used to have.

@firstname405

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavenFilms no excuse to act like petulent children tho

@firstname405

3 жыл бұрын

@@RavenFilms "give me exactly what I expect or I'll cancel you!" That's the vibe I'm getting

i want my 3min back. why are you wasting my time... unsub

Even if you're subbed and like this channel give it a thumbs down just to let them know we dont play like that.

How to make a fool waste 3 minutes.

Boring.

What an incredible, meaningless waste of time. You must be desperate to put out a new video! And you have the nerve to ask for more Patreon money??? "A little learning is a dangerous thing." - Alexander Pope

@facitenonvictimarum174

3 жыл бұрын

@@artistsometimes2729 . The question is, why are you pushing back at all the negative comments to the video? Why can't they speak for themselves? Are you a shill of some kind? A paid shill maybe. Also, this is a comment section, not a cheering section. Everyone doesn't have to say, "epic awesome cool wonderful great... here's some money."

I am NOT Donald frickin Trump!

@addisonwarner

3 жыл бұрын

?

@GreenAppelPie

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky you!