Frieza replicated and surpassed the feat of 2 top tier viltrumites and a random, in his most restricted form, with his finger 😭

@ethiowolfgaming3355

26 күн бұрын

1st form too

@incarnation_of_immortality3422

26 күн бұрын

@@ethiowolfgaming3355 That’s his first form.

@user-th1hu6hg9s

26 күн бұрын

That's using Ki. Strenght wise, Goku lifts 40000 tonnes or so.

@user-th1hu6hg9s

26 күн бұрын

However, Goku fired Cooler into The Sun in a few seconds, which may count as physical force.

@Maxakari

26 күн бұрын

This comment is gold! Top Tier.

Their planet is gonna go from Viltrum to Frieza Planet 419 in less than 5 minutes

@MetaFanWing

12 күн бұрын

“I can see the FU-tuuuuurre!” “Whydoes the guuuuy not blow them UUUUuup?” “Wow those guuuys are PUUssshooo-VEEEERS!”

@Rude_Boi

11 күн бұрын

And if there is any resistance, then Frieza wipes their race in 10 seconds.

@clodolcmidnights837

10 күн бұрын

Are we talking about 5 normal minutes or 5 planet exploding minutes?

@bidoof4426

9 күн бұрын

But No one goes to Frieza planet 419

@estebanramirez1178

9 күн бұрын

@@bidoof4426 *I CAN SEE THE FUTURE!!!*

Imagine thinking that the Viltrumites stand a chance against _anyone_ in Dragonball 💀💀💀

@DumbAss-ic4kq

Ай бұрын

Not even Yamcha 😂

@panicmovie3796

Ай бұрын

Maybe against Frieza soldier for sure 😂 or possibly a saibaman 😂

@_CrimsonX_

Ай бұрын

Thragg probably peaks at around 15,000 for a power level, anything post-nappa dogwalks Viltrumites

@LunaP1

Ай бұрын

They'd lose in seconds by getting glared at by any of the power houses (aka T.O.P team U7).

@AVeryStableFusion

Ай бұрын

@@panicmovie3796 they wouldn’t survive a frieza soldier or a saibaman.

As a quote from the Saiyan vs Viltrumite video I saw from either you or someone else, I don't remember who. "Saiyans send their babies to fully conquer planets while Viltrumites sends adult warriors with hundreds of years of training, just to weaken planets." If this is the case, then yes, Frieza body stomps Viltrumites.

@TheAngryXenite

26 күн бұрын

To be fair, Saiyans send their babies to extremely weak planets to conquer them. They sent grown adults to deal with worlds with either high average power levels or a significant amount of powerful warriors defending them. Invincible isn't really the first because there's a significant amount of superhumans and the tech is there to build actual countermeasures, although it'd still be insane overkill to send a grown Saiyan. What's really funny though is that in like 20 years one rogue scientist went from creating robot warriors any half-decent Viltrumite could scrap to cyborgs and androids that could singlehandedly take over the entire Invincible setting, and this dude made at least 6 of them (9 if you count 13, 14, and 15 as having existed, and 10 if you include 21). That's like being a guy in the 1860s who makes a nuclear warhead in his shed.

@yeikelamores6085

25 күн бұрын

​@@TheAngryXeniteGero didn't make it to 21

@TheAngryXenite

25 күн бұрын

@yeikelamores6085 He still set her up to be created via his computer, didn't he?

@yeikelamores6085

25 күн бұрын

@@TheAngryXenite I don't believe that, that 21 didn't do it herself?Like Gero, who became an android himself

@TheAngryXenite

25 күн бұрын

@@yeikelamores6085 I actually don't remember. I know the computer completed Cell, but I don't recall how 21 was made.

Viltrumites are actually a krillin victim I'm talking saiyan saga krillin.

@taliawtf6944

23 күн бұрын

Yeah feat wise they don't even scale to Kryptonian levels let alone Saiyan levels, I put superman on his own thing as he keeps being shown as either an op god or weak enough for a large caliber gun to stun him so he is just a weird mess unto himself.

@Hakar17

23 күн бұрын

​@@taliawtf6944Yeah 80+ years of stories creates a lot of inconsistencies.

@taliawtf6944

23 күн бұрын

@@Hakar17 And tons of writers who loved, hated or were just indifferent to the character as well. Still remember the golden age power Superman power of making mini me's from his hands. Kinda liked that it was fun. lol

@Hakar17

23 күн бұрын

@@taliawtf6944 Yeah he's had a lot of crazy nonsense over the years that was funny in a campy way though.

@ThemonkeyhaterLordfrieza

18 күн бұрын

the viltrumites are 3 times weaker then krillin

Nah, man. Some people think Homelander Solos Superman, and THAT is the dumbest argument I've seen in recent years.

@hawk9015

19 күн бұрын

Lol, I just saw a power scaling video of Homelander vs M. Satan and Homelander still gets cooked

@ivettrivera5306

19 күн бұрын

​@@hawk9015☠️☠️☠️

@Another_Hibiki

16 күн бұрын

Homelander is a big fish in a small pond, while characters like Superman, Thor and Goku are like Chthullu, Leviathan and Kraken in infinitely deep oceans.

@DanielMWJ

12 күн бұрын

Which Superman? There are hundreds of versions at this point.

@fast1nakus

11 күн бұрын

I'm sure there are several versions of superman he can beat.

People want viltrumites to be strong so bad and it shows I still can’t believe that Ben 10k vs omniman was even thing at one point

@bigshot8867

Ай бұрын

WHAT?!! nah... Not the ben 10k! That is literally one big overkill to omni man.

@S1RLANC3

Ай бұрын

I mean, Vultrumites are strong, their just not that strong.

@lebrondavis1420

Ай бұрын

@@S1RLANC3 that’s what I mean

@monkepopbloon2307

28 күн бұрын

I dont follow ben 10 but isnt there a version of ben 10 that solos dragon ball super so why would that even be an argument

@Roto3

28 күн бұрын

That just going help Ben get a whole new alien in the damn collection than anything. Ben stomps.

Nappa after killing a viltrumite: Vegeta, it must have been made of something weak. Like paper maché... or Raditz.

@zephon6745

12 күн бұрын

Vegeta: Paper maché isn't as weak as Raditz or this creature.

@Damianweibler

12 күн бұрын

More like Raditz after killing one

@CB7368

8 күн бұрын

It's funny that I read this comment with DBZ abridged Nappa's voice in my mind lol

@CybrosPrime

7 күн бұрын

@@CB7368 "Hey Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta? Hey Vegeta? Right Vegeta? Vegeta? Vegeta?" (Gets blown up)

@GarthosDBXV2

7 күн бұрын

Honestly Nappa soloes the Viltrumites. He was a heavily underrated character, and I respect him for his power, though overshadowed by everyone else nowadays, he was a real threat in the Saiyan saga

If you reading this, have a great day 👌

@boxhead411

Ай бұрын

❤

@fatherofjman2475

Ай бұрын

Thanks you too bro.

@xx_hivewars_xx9013

29 күн бұрын

I hope your respective God bles you.

@Samurai_Capcut

28 күн бұрын

Yo thx bro

@loth-alda

28 күн бұрын

@@djbeebop8676 My pet ant died

Shortly after Vegeta's introduction he destroyed a planet with one finger and at that time he was still like a peasant to Frieza

@brassbeast8582

28 күн бұрын

even king vegeta bklew up multiple planets by literally just flicking his wrist lol

@divine1ne564

28 күн бұрын

The son, the planet, or him?

@ccvegitoblue

28 күн бұрын

2 finger

@FaultehBoi

26 күн бұрын

​@@divine1ne564... yes.

@alonk1060

25 күн бұрын

This is anime only. He is however still very capable of doing it easily in the manga

The argument is very simple, one can destroy a planet with one finger in a single second, while the other cannot

@spinozilla2421

28 күн бұрын

Yeah and even if you argue thragg can or mark and Nolan grew stronger that could do it on their own, king vegeta destroyed 3 planets with a simple hand wave and frieza killed him with a chop

@Anthonyspartan514

18 күн бұрын

@@spinozilla2421 the problem is viruimates physical strength put goku to shame till god arc

@soujemn5

17 күн бұрын

except the planets in DBZ are made out of tissue paper

@6Angello1

16 күн бұрын

​@@Anthonyspartan514Are u high ? 💀 viltrumites physical strength put dbz ep 1 goku to a mid diff in thr best case lmao

@Anthonyspartan514

16 күн бұрын

@@6Angello1 lifting strength goku is 40 tons and is canon

You think the Viltrumites would be a good match for Dodoria? No way. It took the three strongest Viltrumites to ever live (Mark Nolan and Thragg) attacking together at a very vulnerable angle, to destroy an already physically unstable planet Viltrum. Meanwhile an already (slightly) worn down Saiyan Saga Vegeta would've destroyed the Earth if not for Goku; no special conditions or requirements, just his raw power output.

@Anthonyspartan514

18 күн бұрын

yes since we have a strength measurement from goku in the after life at the start of season 7 where he struggled with 40 tons granted it became super easy with super Saiyan with that measurement virtumites could kill most of early freeza force

@Another_Hibiki

16 күн бұрын

Slightly worn-out is crazy, Vegeta had just taken an kamehameha that was almost double his power level to the face (maybe more, since it was shown earlier in Saiyan Saga that the Kamehameha rises the power level temporarily).

@jruler93

16 күн бұрын

@@Another_Hibiki Well, not double, since the Kaioken ×3 Kamehameha was evenly matched with his Galick Gun and the bump up to ×4 is what overpowered him. But even after getting blasted with that, Vegeta still had quite a bit of gas left in the tank, his pride being more hurt than his body, while Goku was just about running on empty.

@jruler93

16 күн бұрын

@@Anthonyspartan514 The Otherworld Tournament was completely filler.

@Anthonyspartan514

16 күн бұрын

@@jruler93 that training scene goku was prepping for the world martial arts tournament which is canon

One is a planet Buster who does it on his own while sitting in his bubble hover chair doing it like one would flick away a fly. It took three of the more powerful members to destroy a planet with a lot effort put into it as well. I mean Frieza literally destroyed a planet full of planet busters while sitting on his backside. In fact the space police of Dragonball did not want any Smoke with Frieza at all, they did not even both try to stop him or his family. In Invincible though the Space council did try to stop the Viltrumites and fight them. This tells how bad Frieza really is. I think the Viltrumites due to their own Beliefs of the mighty rule, might even after a demonstration of Frieza's overwhelming power submit to him willingly due to the fact he is the Mightiest in the Galaxy according to their knowledge.

@diablo.the.cheater

Ай бұрын

I mean, in the dragon ball universe even fucking humans are planet busters, I am pretty sure that if start of series Roshi put his mind into it, he could bust a planet. Fucker vaporized the fucking moon, not even dust remained, if you vaporized a moon-sized hole in a planet you basically destroyed the planet as it will collapse unto itself, destabilize the inner parts and blow up. And that was fucking roshi. Sure, at that point he was the absolute strongest human on Earth. The DB universe is fucking full of planet busters

@MikeTyson-Easy

Ай бұрын

@@diablo.the.cheater There's also argument for the Dragon Ball universe being inf in size

@RomanHistoryFan476AD

29 күн бұрын

@@diablo.the.cheater True very true, but Frieza sat on his arse and did it.

@saltycanadian2467

27 күн бұрын

@@MikeTyson-EasyThe dragon ball universe is 13 times larger then our own

@supC_

26 күн бұрын

@@saltycanadian2467not a useful metric considering we don’t have the slightest idea how big our own universe is beyond having a lower bound

Frieza won't even need to leave his seat!!!😂😂

@bobsterclause342

Ай бұрын

So um master rochi blew up the moon. Goku super strong well passed that, hair dude coming out the back not just down the back dude so strong shinigans win-;other dude turns out hair dew dude was weakest minimum royalty level; then freza. Radits blew blew planet. Vageta gets a full body boobboo and thinks hes a super sayin. Freza turns suppression form off painfully and with effort. So…. Um…. Super man would have a rough time. With pre radits goku. Hed have a time with rochi. Sure, id bet on supes, but come on.

@dragonzragnorack824

29 күн бұрын

​@bobsterclause342 I just had an aneurysm reading this shit and superman beats current power goku mid diff😂

@bobsterclause342

29 күн бұрын

Dude try understanding this Ites easy, here: Theres a break break moon dude, goku many times more than break moon with hands guy, goku way above sun buster, why didnt doomsday just blow up the world and hes stronger than super man? Hmmm? You know lifting the world multiple times is significantly less than accelerating the mass past escape velocity right (vaporizing. Aplanet)? Theres move world, and then there is bullet fast world and goku is way past planet level. Also you can spend months using more energy than a tnt stick but that that doesnt mean its the same power level. Super man lifted the world a few feet multiple times. Your strong because you can walk up a skyscraper if your trying to say you can jump up it. On push up, on bench press adds, but it doesnt mean ist the same if spread out. All super man did was lift the planet. Thats less energy than blowing it up. Move it? Its just a planet. If doomsday was so strong why didnt he just blow up the planet, becuase the reason dbz characters dont is because ki just cancels and ignors physics, and doomsday is stronger but dumber than super man. Oh why not darkseid. Well hes not trying to blow up do damage, hes trying to conquer. Doomsday is shooting energy and trying to damage. If he shoots super man with moon busting levels all lif eon earth goes extonct. Just look at the damage, there is no energy absorbtion or negation. Okay, so a random dude can blow up the moon right? So roshi can dish out moon busting. Then planet busting is like tien or or youcha at radits ark start. Okay, so goku might be able to kme hame the sun and radits still almost won and then radits the other dude, vageta, super picalo merged, post booboo vageta, then the levels of power from vegetas transformation, then super sayin…. Must i continue

@dragonzragnorack824

29 күн бұрын

@@bobsterclause342 you make no sense at all lil bro, you also don't know scaling at all😂 and maybe speak good English

@malikthomas8452

29 күн бұрын

​@@dragonzragnorack824but in reality you don't know what you're talking about and you must not know power scaling because Superman currently isn't close to what Goku is capable to the only thing he has something on his speed as of now you have to get into the other versions of Superman to find one that's stronger than the current manga Goku or Vegeta

Bro could have used Raditz but decided to go with saibamen instead. The disrespect is palpable lmao.

@djoof23eksdee19

4 күн бұрын

too be fair saibamen are brainles meanwhile raditz is an experianced warior, so he would most likely beat a saibaman in a 1v1 relatively easy

@Cyborg_J

3 күн бұрын

@@djoof23eksdee19 Exactly! If a Viltrumite is as strong as a Saibaman then we should just compare them to Raditz since they at least have working brains

Viltrumites are a big fish in a small pond, Frieza is one of the biggest fish in an ocean. Their powers are not really comparable.

@Dav624

7 күн бұрын

Fax

"IT'S OBVIOUS WHO WINS" _* Sees a bunch of vultrimites. *_ Oh, so this is an Invincible video, I wonder what Invincible character they're fighting. _* Sees Frieza. *_ 😆 *_Laughing!!_*

@lipetnt

29 күн бұрын

i mean ofc if u talk about curent viltromites or omni man ones ofc frieza wins even someone like saiyan saga vegeta hell even napa maybe sweeps them BUT IF U TALK BOUT EM before the scorge virus than u start to have a point against namek saga frieza (super still absolutely violates) since its shown they made a rign out of the corpses and its calculated that in that ring there were 10 quadrilions so ye if u talk about before the scorge virus they might genuely stand a chance againsts namek frieza

@exqzm4656

28 күн бұрын

​​@@lipetntfirst form frieza literally destroyed a planet with a gravity 10x heavier than earth with 1 finger if it took 3 of some of the strongest viltrumites to blow up a planet with a distabilized core and even said that if they did not do it correctly they wouldve died so whats stopping frieza from doing the exact same thing?

@lipetnt

27 күн бұрын

@@exqzm4656 while frieze could just blow up their planet a lot of them would just go in space and fight him. even if 1/10 of the original ones would have survived that is about 1qd as strong as frieze is even in his final form he simply could not take on that many of them and about the vitrumite feat we also gotta consider they were tired and worn out that feat at least goes for a multi continental to moon level feat also they are faster than him as a weaker nolan managed to travel to another galaxy cluster in like a week making him hundreds of bilions of times faster than light which means theres a good change most of the viltomites are much much faster than frieze and they have superior exp numbers combat and more theres just no way frieze can take on that many of them

@exqzm4656

27 күн бұрын

@@lipetntyou do know that frieza has 1 shotted king vegeta in his first form and king vegeta blew up 3 planets with a wave of his hand there is not a single viltrumite that comes close to this feat not even thragg yet to frieza he was absolutely nothing just like how in the series were those hybrid viltrumites killed themselves when running into mark and omni man thats gonna happen to every viltrumite if they do the same to frieza and again whats literally stopping frieza from just throwing another death ball and the fact that he can one shot everysingle viltrumite with his fist

@exqzm4656

27 күн бұрын

@@lipetnt and that whole flying to another galaxy feat is something that took time so that isnt a speed that he can pull off instantly since literally before he couldnt even get to cecil

It's kind of crazy to think how many Planet Wipers / Planet Busters were on Frieza's payroll, pretty much all the ki using bad guys we see from frieza are at least moon busters by themselves.

Vegeta destroyed that whole bug planet with two fingers, I can't imagine Frieza breaking a sweat against Viltrumites

@lukeroberson2115

6 күн бұрын

Filler. Doesn't count. Best feat is the Super Galick Gun. But there's conflicting statements on whether that could destroy Earth or just cause immense damage like the meteor that killed the dinosaurs.

@fledthehunter5293

5 күн бұрын

​@@lukeroberson2115 it is filler, but in that filler it shows that he COULD do that, even if its not canon. Vegeta could absolutely destroy a planet, it was stated that the limit to be able to destroy a planet was at about 10000 power level. Consider that master roshi in the original db destroyed the entire moon with a kamehameha. A blast that destroys a moon could severily damage a planet.

*Thragg starts running his mouth* Cue Frieza Deathbeam hitting clean through a lung. I feel like we've been here before, have we been here before?

@lemagicbaguette1917

Күн бұрын

Oh. My. GOOOOD.

Frieza would force them into his army like the Saiyans, but that might be a massive problem in the future. Viltrumites' goals are to repopulate, and Saiyan are into psychopaths with the mindsets of the Viltrumites. Saiyans being in their prime until their 80s combined with Viltrumites aging so slowly that they live as long as Supreme Kai’s. The smart atoms adapt, and improve the Viltrumites on anything they try to do, with the more they push themselves the more they will improve, combined with Zenkai boost. The extreme amount of damage Viltrumites can survive. The Saiyan’s low requirements for air to survive, combined with the Viltrumite's 2 weeks surviving off of one breath. The Saiyan’s S-cells are merged with the smart atoms giving a nearly endless amount of stamina (unless there beaten badly enough, but it's the same for the androids) You will have an army of Saitama-like hybrids flying around blasting ki blasts. With the ability to use all of the Saiyan forms without any ki drainage problems, and are constantly getting stronger doing nothing or while doing simple tasks. Also even while off guard they will always be as durable as their peak power.

@jacobnicola5950

Ай бұрын

The Sayamites

@ginnungagapabyss5639

Ай бұрын

@@jacobnicola5950 good name

@xx_hivewars_xx9013

29 күн бұрын

So... Freezer Is a hero?.

@ginnungagapabyss5639

29 күн бұрын

@@xx_hivewars_xx9013 No, but the hybrids would be. Viltrumites would probably keep the very humanoid races alive, and plan a rebellion against Frieza by having the hybrids live there in secret, with the Saiyans backing up the plan, but disliking that there sparing so many people. The Viltrumites would have the hybrids live on those planets in small numbers, repopulating with the humanoid races building up an army. Most of the hybrids would be placed on planets off Frieza’s radar, like Vampa, earth, and any underdeveloped planets. So the Saiyans, Viltrumites, and hybrids would actually become the heroes for a lot of races, sparing them, and working on a rebellion, while also having the hybrids form a connection with them.

@xx_hivewars_xx9013

29 күн бұрын

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 👍🏻.

"If all the viltrumites attacked Frieza at once" Anyone thinking that has never watched an episode of Dragon Ball. Once the power difference is big enough, it doesn't even matter how many of you are. Honestly I think they might respect Frieza too, given how much they care for strength. His power is overwhelmingly greater than theirs, they gotta respect that.

Bro fuckin Chiatzou would solo all them on a 1v1

@ultranecrozma7449

19 күн бұрын

Ok lets not go that far lmao.

@nathanbohannan7956

18 күн бұрын

@@ultranecrozma7449 He would Though

@xeratovildan9871

18 күн бұрын

accurate, they don't have the AP to hurt chiatzou meaning they'd likely kill themselves attacking him.

@Another_Hibiki

16 күн бұрын

I just fact-checked it and yep, Chiaotzu in Z was at least planet level and he also has telekinesis.

@henjin4671

11 күн бұрын

His not wrong Roshi blew up the moon with a power level of 130 and by the Saiyan Saga Chiazou is 610 if u use the logic Chiazou solos​@@ultranecrozma7449

I honestly think people just see the suit and go "Oh, so Viltrumites are Kryptonians in strength" when it took 3 Viltrumites to destroy a planet that was already unstable, something Vegeta could do to a regular planet while not at full power in the Saiyan Saga, and if we include filler, he literally just does it from his pod

@derpypotato677

23 сағат бұрын

I don't think the filler counts because filler writers just think what would be cool, not what would make sense.

@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity

22 сағат бұрын

@@derpypotato677 Excluding filler, even then, we know that the official guide says you just need a power level of 10,000 to just blow up a planet into Space dust, and I imagine in Vegeta's Career, he's blown up enough planetoids to gauge that

@derpypotato677

21 сағат бұрын

@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity Yeah he should be able to do it relatively comfortably, but not with absolute ease like he does with bug planet.

TBH, if freeza and his family were not around, the saiyans would have a empire much like the vultrumites. If anything the saiyans would be more bloodthirsty since Saiyans have a battle kink.

Frieza would probably just press-gang them into service. They are probably stronger than the average grunts in his army, but inferior to any mid or high class Saiyan.

@Aesirfollower2020

Ай бұрын

The weakest Frieza Force soldier is 1300 that's far above moon busters so no a average viltrumite isn't beat the lowest rank soldier.

Even NAPPA could kill a Viltrumite and yet people think that Frieza couldn't kill ALL of them?

DBZ Frieza could easily Destroy and Conquer all the Viltrumites in just his 1st Form, or better yet he doesn't even need to Fight them at all, the Frieza Force and even the Ginyu Force could easily kill all the Viltrumites, And I don't even need to mention DBS Frieza because that's a whole other Canned of Worms and it is straight up Overkill (like Frieza's Golden Form and Black Form).

6:29 Even the freakin' cabbage patch kids can kick their asses. The way you presented that fact killed me! XD

Its purely speculative but what if the Viltrums learned ki. Its a alien element to them but even if they had human levels of ki. This could in theory boost them with such training. I dont think they would be past sayian saga but interesting thought.

@RevulsiveLooper

4 күн бұрын

To me discussions like this would be more interesting than "who beats who" debates.

"If the Sayian are monkeys then perhaps the viltrumites are chimpanzee, they are bit smarter but nothing compared to me" Lord Frieza probably

the creator of dragon ball series confirmed that if your power output if higher twice as high or higher it completely negates their attacks. so if Freeza powered up all the way the viltramites would not be able to even hurt him a little.

@marlinmurrell620

22 күн бұрын

Don't you mean the creator of invincible?

@Alex-im7hf

21 күн бұрын

@@marlinmurrell620 no

The issue here is that everyone considers Omniman an evil Superman. Omniman is not, not even close. He’s nowhere near as powerful. So obviously because of this Viltrimites get compared to Kryptonians. Viltrimites are extremely weak… extremely. Frieza owns all of them in just one battle.

@hayond656

10 күн бұрын

Everyone considers Omniman an evil Superman because in terms of Story, he basically is In terms of power, I don't think most people let alone "everyone" consider him to be Superman level

Frieza invade krypton

@jruler93

Ай бұрын

Kryptonians aren't even strong on their home planet. Their powers derive from yellow sunlight.

@Aesirfollower2020

Ай бұрын

Why would he?

@Yippeee1332

29 күн бұрын

They’re basically just human under red sun

@Schwartzbruder1

29 күн бұрын

Kryptonians don't have their powers on their home planet. They're basically slightly stronger humans at that point

@AmericaChavez17

25 күн бұрын

@@Schwartzbruder1 depends. Golden Age Kryptonians have powers on Krypton but it's not very strong only restricted to super strength, able to jump high and invulnerability

5:15 And their mildly threatening power, obsessive pride and the Super Saiyan legend didn't do them any favors in getting Frieza's favor....

I think a much more interesting idea is 'Could the Saiyan saga Z-Fighters fight off the Viltrum empire?'

Most Viltrumites are probably around Nappa level.

@Robert_D_Mercer

Ай бұрын

I agree with this, AND they are super disciplined compared to sayians and they have their own tech. Sayians would win in the long haul due to their special cheat genes if left to manifest, but vul's wouldnt give them time I would say

@mykol17

Ай бұрын

I disagree. In dragon ball, roshi was a moon buster at power level of 130s. Keep in mind that Dragon ball has never been too flashy with its animation to show destruction, so people tend to lowball dragon ball just because they "havent seen them do it." King Piccolo was 2-3x stronger than roshi, and he casually was a continent buster, but he would never destroy the planet because earth was his home, so some people erroneously think he couldnt do it. By the beginning of dragon ball z, goku and piccolo had a power level of under and around 400. They were ridiculously powerful, but they just never showed world ending abilities because they would never destroy their own planet, in fact they didnt even know aliens existed outside of earth until Raditz told them about saiyans and Vegeta told piccolo about the namekians. Once they're perspectives grew, that's when we started to see planet busting power, but just because we finally saw it does not mean they weren't able to do it before. You dont need a power level of 18,000 like vegeta and his galik gun in order to destroy earth. I think a good guess on the upper class of Viltrumites would be a generous high ball to MAYBE Raditz level. But think about it, all the Z Fighters surpassed Raditz power level before Vegeta and Nappa even arrived to earth. It's safe to say, Viltrumites do not hold a candle to Modern Day Dragon Ball Super characters, let alone the the saiyan saga.

@mlmf2012

Ай бұрын

To even hurt nappa you need to be at least low planetary with maximum effort. Even raditz felt nothing from a moon level ki blast, and much more powerful beings than him couldnt even hurt nappa. Also note that in dragon ball earth is considered a small planet, so even nappa is capable of destroying the earth if he wanted to, considering minimum amount needed to destroy a planet is 10,000 pl The average viltrumite at best is 23rd tournament goku or piccolo level, since these guys were at least moon+ level at that point, and im being very generous here. Id put thragg at somewhere between raditz and start of Z goku, leaning a bit more to raditz. Not a single viltrumite is hanging with anyone in the saiyan saga

@arthurcosta1657

28 күн бұрын

​@@mykol17they can destroy a moon easly

@mykol17

27 күн бұрын

@@arthurcosta1657 Viltrumites or saiyans? Either way, agreed.

Quick math, roshi blew up the moon fighting goku when he was like 14, the moon is about the quarter the size of earth, they needed four of them to destroy one planet, frieza wipes 1st form

What people seem to forget is that in Invincible of you punch someone way stronger than you your arm straight up explodes. Chances are 1st Form Frieza wouldn't even have to fight them, he could literally just stand still not dodging and they'd all just body themselves trying to hurt him.

Heres all you need to know. In Dragon Ball, it takes a power level of 10,000 to destory a planet. In Invincible, it took 3 of the strongest Viltrumites together to destory one planet. So at best, those 3 had a max power level of 4000. 4000 is actually also Nappa's power level from the Saiyan Saga. Frieza, in his first form, has a power level of 530,000. It would take over 130 of the strongest Viltrumites to even stand a chance against Frieza at his weakest, most restrained. In his final form, its not even a contest. Final form Frieza has a power level of 120 million. He could wipe out 30,000 Viltrumites in one battle, wake up the next day, and do it again. And thats if he doesnt decide to just nuke their planet from orbit, which he did to the Saiyans from the comfort of his arm chair.

Pan(GT) vs Mark would be a fairer fight than this fight

@Cyborg_J

26 күн бұрын

@pacu069 Considering that Pan probably scales at least to the Ginyu force that's honestly not that bad.

@yeikelamores6085

25 күн бұрын

Pan GT Massively scales above people like Goten or Trunks from Buu saga, so no

@lovableairheadmile6809

25 күн бұрын

​@@Cyborg_Jhell no gt pan scales to like buu saga characters at low ball. At high ball she scales to shadow dragons so she at least stronger than ssj4 Goku when fighting baby. On a high vall

@Jakedasnake0426

24 күн бұрын

@@lovableairheadmile6809Pan is NOT stronger than SSJ4 Goku 💀💀💀

@lovableairheadmile6809

24 күн бұрын

@@Jakedasnake0426 I said on a high Ball

Just more people overhyping new media thinking they can beat dragon ball when they clearly can't smh. #EndofVideoSquad

Bro I can’t watch this only upside down 😂😂😂

One aspect most people tend to forget when making any kind of Character fight Dragonball-Characters is speed. Goku literally learned to move faster than light when he trained with Mr. Popo. And he's become faster since then. To even have such a VS be any kind of question, you need to slow down DBZ characters so much, it's basically like me fighting Muhammad Ali, but he only moves in slow motion, so even my untrained ass can beat him up.

What if Frieza ruled Viltrum. Someone needs to make this a story.

@Randomergoesbrrrr

28 күн бұрын

it would just be superman all over again but superman is a viltrumite

@Tmmbbbeeee

21 күн бұрын

His army would be weaker than it is now ig

@Rude_Boi

11 күн бұрын

​@Tmmbbbeeee No. His army would be stronger if Frieza is literally ADDING a race of fighters to his army. Frieza is a Space Conqueror; he thrives on having a business where he rules, takes planets and sells them, and has the inhabitants of said planets work for him. Any increase would make his army stronger.

@Tmmbbbeeee

11 күн бұрын

Ok

@Cinquan

10 сағат бұрын

@@Rude_Boi To add to what you’ve already said. If the Viltrumites were ruled alongside with the Saiyans. Imagine the same scenario of seeing Goku vs Omni-Man. I think Goku would have an even more difficult fight against Nolan. But If Mark grew up with Gohan. Piccolo trained both while Vegeta and Nappa showed up already more battle hardened than ever before. How would the rest of the story go from that point forward. Would Vegeta be with Bulma. Would any of the Human characters be around during the war between the Saiyans and Viltrumites. So many possibilities could happen. That’s why I said someone should make a fan-fiction about this.

Gents, the DragonBall universe can't be compared to any other universe. Hell within the Dragonball universe fans and writers can't figure out the physics. Dragonball physics engine is broken

@fledthehunter5293

5 күн бұрын

When next update that fixes all the bugs, like cell regenerating after his head has been blasted?

@Arkantos1900

3 күн бұрын

Saint Seiya is comparable to them.

Frieza vs viltrumites ❌ Frieza masecars viltrumites ✅

I love these videos because half the time I've never even asked myself these questions, but in exploring and pondering the answer it needs to examine the lore in a way I do usually think about, so it tickles my fancy.

What if there’s an alternate universe where Frieza doesn’t Exist and The Saiyans are conquering the Universe like The Viltrumites, where Kakarot never hit his head and he becomes like Omni-Man and Gohan as Invincible

@Lightanims560

Ай бұрын

That'd be sick

@gerardorodriguez7500

Ай бұрын

@@Lightanims560 sick as cool or sick as lame?

@Solesteam

Ай бұрын

​@@gerardorodriguez7500 Sick as twisted maybe?

@MiregoThe100th

Ай бұрын

And then GOHAN BECOMES THE FIRST LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN STANDING UP TO HIS FATHER LIKE "I THOUGHT I KNEW WHO YOU WERE DAD. BUT ITS CLEAR YOU NEVER LOVED ME OR MOM." Then when Gohan meets vegeta its like "So youre the one behind all of this! Grrr! I am son gohan! Dont make me go super saiyan 2 on you! Grrr! Im getting angry now!" 😡

@gerardorodriguez7500

Ай бұрын

@@MiregoThe100th I was thinking King Vegeta as Thragg, Vegeta as Kregg and Fasha as Anissa

Frieza turns the entire viltrumite planet to dust most likely literally and for fun

1:14 Apu can conquer the Viltrumite empire in a day, and he can't handle a cup of raspberry schnapps.

Imagine conquering a warrior race and making them pencil pushers in your empire XD

Only chance of survival is if some of the Viltrumites escape to Frieza planet 419 No one ever goes t Frieza planet 419

Ima just leaving a comment here

Frieza enhanced with smart atoms 💀

Viltrumites: Need three of their most powerful to destroy an already unstable planet, who might die in the attempt. Frieza: Destroys a planet by himself with one finger in his weakest form.

Doesn’t their species consider strength to be the ultimate factor in attraction he’s basically going to have all of their females all to himself from then on

@MILDMONSTER1234

20 күн бұрын

Their old leader wasn't actually that strong so i dunno it might just be a viltrumite only thing. Frieza isn't straight anyway

@rayaneouizare6885

12 күн бұрын

@@MILDMONSTER1234 im pretty sure the old ruler aka Nolans father was strong just that he got jumped by thraag and other strong vultrimites

@xx_hivewars_xx9013

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, like... Two.

@MILDMONSTER1234

3 күн бұрын

@@rayaneouizare6885 they directly say they didn’t follow him for his strength. He was strong but he wasn’t near top dog status

Frieza already provided feats of he would literally one shot them all unless you can argue that ominman did fight supreme and statement him which is image comic superman that guy can destroy a universe and more but i can't say if that can scale them higher or if its cannon to invincible universe what do you think my short answer is frieza one shot them

@yeikelamores6085

25 күн бұрын

Even if we give the universal declaration to Omniman, Frieza still stomps

@mobarenleidowu1336

21 күн бұрын

​@yeikelamores6085 Namek frieza isn't universal, supreme beats frieza.

@yeikelamores6085

21 күн бұрын

@@mobarenleidowu1336 There are literally over 9 statements that Namek Frieza is universal, whether they be guides, manga, anime, or narrator

@mobarenleidowu1336

21 күн бұрын

@@yeikelamores6085 Yes, but those are just statements. Because, if he was universal, he wouldn't be so terrified of the saiyan race.

@yeikelamores6085

21 күн бұрын

@@mobarenleidowu1336 Statements in DB=what characters can do,Explicitly there are no hyperboles or things like that,He was terrified of the SSJ and the potential threat of the Saiyans, not of the race itself, if anything, it would only increase the Saiyans.

Thank you blackscape for bringing this to light!!!!

That power level is hilarious! Raditz!? And the best part, your right.

Beerus would destroy viltrum way before he bothers abt saiyans.

All the vilter mites are like raditz power level

@LunaP1

Ай бұрын

Ouch.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@AVeryStableFusion

Ай бұрын

No they’re even lower, raditz can blow up a planet while viltrumites need 2 or 3 to even do that.

@OyinkansolaAgboola

Ай бұрын

​@@AVeryStableFusionI think raditz power level is high enough not to blow up a planet but the moon multiple times over. Raditz vs thragg

@Anthonyspartan514

18 күн бұрын

@@AVeryStableFusion energy wise yes physical they out class him goku buu saga lift limit is 40 tons

@argy7526

9 күн бұрын

@@Anthonyspartan514 how much you lift doesnt really affect how strong you can punch put a weight lifter up against a boxer if you think the boxer will lose you are delusional

It's very simple. If the Viltrimites coexisted with Frieza and his army, Frieza would try to recruit them and absorb them into his army. If they would fight back, then Frieza would neg all of them with zero effort. I'm talking about First Form Frieza in DBZ btw.

If a Viltrumite and a Sayain have a child, I think everyone’s doomed.

@lisboah

6 күн бұрын

Combine the Viltrumites' long lifespan and ability to travel in vacuum, and the Sayans' Zenkai Boost and power.

@skitariiranger1333

5 күн бұрын

Simply put, a god is made

Zero views in 1 minute you've fallen off (jk keep up the good work)

The entire Viltrimite species get slaughtered by Saiyan Saga characters

This question is basically, "how many saibaman does it take Vegeta and Nappa to beat Freeza?" And that's like.... Hilarious, but it's even worse than that actually. Because in invincible if you attack someone stronger than you, you fucking explode, so it'd basically be a billion siabamn all self destructing on Freeza before he dusts himself off and shoots nappa and Vegeta.

Dragon Ball scales so high, Viltrumites end up as scientists and paper pushers LOL

The only guy that the Viltrumites could kill is that one guy with a shotgun. 😂😂

Also Invincible's logic is if you hit someone stronger than you, you'll break upon them. These Viltrumites will try attacking Frieza, and turn themselves to mush in the process

I thought my tv was upside down with that frieza clip :)

The Vs would be lucky to be allowed to serve as lower tier operatives of the Frieza Force.

I’ve noticed something, whenever a remotely strong character in fiction comes out, it’s always them vs the dragon ball verse, which is fine. But the thing that confuses me is that people will go into huge lengths to find all the strengths and uh..”reasonings” why said character could, without ever looking into said dragon ball character and what their feats are. Dragon ball characters are simultaneously overrated AND underrated in terms of power. I constantly see people either extremely overplay them, or extremely downplay them😭

The better question is "when do they become obsolete during Dragon Ball?" Because they are outclassed by the time Z starts.

The Viltrumites are on a pretty good "stongest shall rule" belief so I think all Frieza has to do is turn Thragg into swiss cheese in front of everybody.

The saibamen disrespect is crazy!

6:50 I mean if there's enough of them and they team up with Raditz and the Dragonball Xenoverse 2 Time Patroller they might be able to stall Goku for 2 whole seconds longer than with Saibamen thanks to their intelligence.

So here’s a question. What if the Viltrumites had access to Ki? I remember seeing a discussion from the dbz verse from some years ago which was “Does a creature with a longer lifespan have a greater amount of Ki (and reverse), i.e. a greater amount of power?” That is the basis of my question. Since by that logic Viltrumites, who have lifespans either greater than or equal to frieza’s race, would have a large amount of Ki that they could use to gain even greater strength.

Dbz/gt/super characters operate at such insane power levels compared to most other settings that just to stand a chance you'd need power that bypasses their ability like reality warping in order to stand a decent chance

This video reminded me of the Death Battle announcement of Bardock vs Omniman. Bardock was stated to be close to King Vegeta’s power level who we have actually seen blow up three planets with a wave of his hand. So it’s safe to say that Bardock at the bare minimum can destroy a planet himself if he wanted. So safe to say that he wins against Omniman.

You're telling me that a guy who easily destroyed a planet in his first form without trying and he's way stronger than that... vs a race where only 3 of the strongest fighters were able to destroy a planet working together... You're telling me that guy can beat the race? Huh, maybe you're right.

Viltrumites 8n the freeza force be like: they where brilliant scientists but average fighters

bro the viltrumites would just be in bardocks situation trying to stop him

Along with the dragon Ball my non anime series was The Charmed . Today the actress who was the older sister witch in that series Sannen Doherty died due to breast cancer. 😢 She knew for this months now and she sold her things so his mom to not spend mental energy and time to sell them after her daughter 's death.

The best and only point needed should be, "Hey, remember that scene of Viltrumites turning each other into Chunky salsa with one attack? Here is a scene of Goku hitting Vegeta with a Spirit Bomb that King Kai told Goku to be very careful with or it could explode the planet. And here's the Scene were Vegeta lands after taking that hit and getting back up to deck literally everyone around him with his aura." The question isn't "Can the Viltrumites beat [x]" where [x] is insert any character. The Question should be "How soon would the Viltrumites be burgered/splattered/fine-red-misted by [x]?"

Honestly with viltrunms might makes right only the strongest rule. I could actually see them willingly even if reluctantly going to freeza to serve him. And frieza might even be a bit impressed with their empire

The invincible splat factor plays in Frieza’s favor.

Raditz vs Homelander

At best, one could say that some of the Viltrumites could be as strong as Bui before Vegeta left for Earth. Although compared to Frieza's higher men like Dedoria or Zarbon, they could maybe put up a fight, but end up losing. Although if Frieza is annoyed at the Viltrumites and does not want to deal with them, the Ginyu Force would take care of them within the afternoon.

Dawg, the Viltrime empire gets bodied by the Ginyu Force, no difficulty.

Forget frieza, theyre not even getting past nappa. Any viltrumite that would try to blitz him would splatter on contact and still deal zero damage

Bro tried his hardest not getting copyright strike for these clips

Omni man got ONE DUB against homelander

Frieza can destroy a whole planet with just one finger. Debate settled.

Blackscape, we still havent forgot what you did.

Death Beam.

If we're considering Frieza (Namek Saga) I don''t think he could fight in the sun, while Thragg and Mark could, it may be more of an even match.

I always find it amusing that people just instinctively know anything post saiyan saga solos the Viltrumites, so powerscaling discussions between them are always this search to find the floor where the power levels are low enough that a discussion can be had. Most people seem to focus discussions around King Piccolo to Raditz's arrival on Earth.

The better question is how many saiyans would it take to conquer viltrum? Obviously without vegeta, king vegeta, bardock and nappa Just the lowest rank saiyans with great ape. Btw the class soldiers had the power of 1-5k power level.

Saiyan < Viltrumites < Frieza < Saiyan potential < Frieza potential