Here comes a comment from PhD. 1. Some obvious stuff: When you put in contact two media with different temperature the heat transfer will occur making the temperature (difference zero (in a infinitely long run, that's what thermodynamics is, its about static equilibrium states). The resulting temperature will depend on heat produced on cpu side and heat removed on coolant side (cooling being produced by phase transition, i.e. sublimation). However it will be reduced by the heat transfer due to limited heat conductivity - remember that you are using high-glycol mix with quite a low heat capacity and conductivity). 2. Hence we need to find out the real temperature on cpu block's bottom surface and water going in and out. More thermal probes, Jay! This will show how well the heat transfers through your cpu block. From this you will see if you need to increase the flow rate or maybe use a custom block. If you see the water temperature difference (Tin-Tout) is low then it means you have inefficient CPU block. I strongly advice against using thicker plate - it will not tip the resulting temperature, it will saturate at the same point. Instead you need to increase the heat transfer efficiency by creating a custom block with long path (=high area of heat transfer). Here's the idea: Mill a 6 mm deep 3 mm wide channel in a 9 mm copper plate forming a long labyrinth-like path. It won't lead to a high flow resistance due to 18mm2 channel cross-section and on such a big IHS can get you a really good heat exchange. Microfins are for watercooling, where heat conductivity, capacity and viscosity are different. 3. Perhaps you're limited by the heat transfer though the thermal paste. Go for In-Ga eutectic (Conductonaut), even if it freezes you'll get a nice metal conductivity. And it probably won't even freeze. On a technical side - you can probably dip a metal cylinder (or a bent 2" metal pipe) filled with dry ice into your water bucket, the heat transfer will go through the metal wall but you won't have the bubbles to deal with. 4. Looking forward to see some experiments with In-Ga eutectic used as heat transfer liquid instead of water. Yeah, it's corrosive and messy but it's another league of heat conductivity.

@geass9756

4 жыл бұрын

like so jay can see it

@Ironclad17

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah regular 50/50 antifreeze mix has relatively poor thermal conductivity and still can only handle up to ~-20 C before freezing. It's why most dry ice cooling uses acetone or an alcohol as the solvent. Also using a liquid metal thermal interface is a bad idea because it will crack at lower temperatures.

@pavelgorlachuk1460

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ironclad17 I disagree with the last point. CPU temp isn't any close to zero, so I assume thermal interface to be in 20-50C range (avg between CPU and coolant). It won't go below zero anyway. Of course the easiest way to find out is to test it.

@warrenpuckett4203

4 жыл бұрын

Auto water pump? Electric powered or Mechanical? Using a washing machine motor and a fan belt would make a lot of noise. Those Pumps tested to start at -40C. Not really made to keep pumping 50/50 glycol indefinitely at -40. They rely on the engine to warm the fluid up.

@nic_s5215

4 жыл бұрын

Would lapping the CPU and block help in this case at all? Having better metal to metal contact should increase heat transfer and reduce the reliance on thermal past or liquid metal, no?

I'm working on an electrical engineering degree and I've had a thermodynamics class so not sure if I count... But if your going to get a specialy machined block. I would recommend getting at least some fins put in the liquid side. They don't have to be anything fancy or small. Just something to increase the surface area and help get the block cool faster and keep it cooler.

@Wereskeleton

4 жыл бұрын

@@dayv207 That is the definition of cooling. Moving heat away from something.

@sandyleask92

4 жыл бұрын

Hello, a fellow electrical engineer! Given the thickness of the fluid, I would be more tempted to have a grid of pins instead of fins. having an alternating pin design would allow turbulence to occur taking more heat from the block. Fins would allow the fluid to become to laminar.

@custos3249

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you heat dissipation and surface area are pretty intimately intertwined, like, ya know, a radiator.....

@RustySh4ckleford

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh... This is just as bad as "as a mother..." If you're a student it doesn't count!

@custos3249

4 жыл бұрын

@@RustySh4ckleford Says the gender studies "graduate"

Tony Stark: “How’d you solve the icing problem?” Jay: “icing problem...?”

@BenCos2018

3 жыл бұрын

lmao

@fr33kSh0w2012

3 жыл бұрын

Mmm.... Icing!

“When I don’t know what to do I put my finger in” words to live by

The title is how my mom introduces me

@MarcusTheGreatIAmTheLastOne

4 жыл бұрын

LoL

@cristicristi2668

4 жыл бұрын

Does your mom work in the based department?

@Turnkey_BM

4 жыл бұрын

If you're her biggest failure yet, she's still working on something bigger.

@DiddyReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@dannyboy8281

4 жыл бұрын

😂 THE NEW NORMAL

LOL linus thought the same thing about the antifreeze when he did whole room water cooling. that ended very well.

@Livedracersteve

4 жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair the main issue they had with whole room water cooling was bacteria in the pipes and blocks.

@ahmedlaymoun9407

4 жыл бұрын

@@Livedracersteve That was my point, at 16:15 they said that the antifreeze has growth inhibitors which is what Linus thought when he did whole room water cooling.

I love that you post stuff even when it doesn't work out. It's awesome to come along on the journey of you guys figuring stuff out, even if there are some missteps along the way

Love the thumbnail "Compete Fialure" lmao

jay: "this is my biggest failure yet..." also jay: *drills through visible traces on a motherboard and kills it*

@allanhuseyin6370

4 жыл бұрын

wait, what vid is that, I wanna see!!! lmao

@thereddog223

4 жыл бұрын

@@allanhuseyin6370 I wanted to cry on that video

@TechyBen

4 жыл бұрын

@@thereddog223 And the "soldering" attempt on the GPU. Um, I can see a trend here.

@corstian_

4 жыл бұрын

@@allanhuseyin6370 same

@corstian_

4 жыл бұрын

@@allanhuseyin6370 kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGubzqOjlNndfMY.html

I dont know how a ln2 cooling pot for a motherboard looks like but im a chemist and im working on sub zero reactions. You could use a pot with a direct contact plate and mix isopropanol and dry ice. This will get you to around -70°C. This would be easier and quicker as it doesnt require a pump.

@dallatorretdu

4 жыл бұрын

but its not a loop

@Chrinik

4 жыл бұрын

cooling pots are literally just a block with a hole in it that you screw onto the CPU and continuously pour LN² into it and letting it evaporate

@nanonxpc9677

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly you can just use a LN2 pot with dry ice instead. I’ve seen it done lol

@rileydude6888

4 жыл бұрын

The problem with that is a soon as it gets hot the whole pot and it’s contents will start to warm up as well I think that’s why he wants a loop

@SilvaDreams

4 жыл бұрын

@@dallatorretdu You can make it a loop though... The only problem would be pumping it as you'd have to use insulted metal pipes. The tank would have to be metal and you just dump dry ice in there and fill it with alcohol. You might have to get a specialized pump though.

I really enjoyed this video, trial and error, finding out what works and what doesn't. It's interesting watching a process and how to solve the problems.

I started watching your channel a couple of weeks ago, when I bought a prebuilt middle of the road PC to use in my home. I've always wanted to be a PC gamer, but it's always been too pricy - anyway - LOVE the channel! I'm almost binging it. I wanted to let you know that your content quality has led me to abandon my adblocker for the first time ever (permanently). Thanks so much for the entertainment and information! I'm planning to try to do my first build after Christmas and will be coming back for instruction. Keep it up and thanks again! You've made the quarantine much more tolerable! Oops! I needed to edit because I gotta give major props to Phil as well for the work he does!

I remember working for a marine supply about very cold weather coolants that are alcohol based, they would be harsh on some plastics, but might have more flow. Or dunno be like Boris and just use Vodka?

@eyemastervideo

4 жыл бұрын

Car coolant is alcohol, just not consumable alcohol.

@TheWrj513

4 жыл бұрын

Cheeki Breeki!

@thebarkingmouse

4 жыл бұрын

The freezing point point pure ethanol alcohol is -114 C (-173.2 F). Dry ice sublimates at -78.5°C (-109.3°F). If I were doing this project I would make a heat exchanger. Have a pot full of pure ethanol (or as close as you can get it). Run a copper loop through the ethanol in the pot with as many loops as you can get. Fill the loop with ethanol ( the challenge will be getting pure ethanol. You could use high proof alcohol like everclear, but you may have to do a freeze distillation to get rid of the water. That would require experimentation.) and pump the ethanol through the loops in the pot full of ethanol (closed loop into the heat exhanger). Keep in mind also that the viscosity of ethanol at -50c is roughly 3 times that of water at STP. Your pumps will be working hard and may fail. You may have to choose a different type of pump. Also, the bubbling dry ice will produce a lot of ethanol vapor. You will need to exhaust those gasses or you may be making a potentially explosive air mixture. I'd use a pressure cooker to hold the heat exchanger, and drill & tap a large diameter hole (at least an inch), and attach that to a hose I'd run to the bottom of a 5 gallon drinking water jug. Exhaust the gases that bubble up through the water. The main concern is buildup of potentially explosive vapors, oxygen displacing gases, and intoxicants in the air you are breathing. But exhausting the gases bubbling up through the water will solve that. So fill the closed loop with ethanol. 3/4 fill the pot (heat exchanger). Immerse the copper loops in the ethanol in the pot. Drop in the dry ice Close & secure the lid (not a risk for explosion because the vapors are being forced out through the hose). Either directly duct that hose to open air outside, or bubble through water and then exhaust the gases with a fan. You should be able to drive the temps of the ethanol down to -70 or even cooler without freezing the ethanol.

@Climber31Gaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebarkingmouse Denatured Alcohol could be good substitute for pure ethanol. Not sure about availability these days, though that could be a problem with any alcohol products.

@SovietGrazz

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebarkingmouse isopropyl has superior specific heat capacity and density.... But it's also more viscous. Hmm.

0:02 Who the hell are you!?!?!?! Where's my StevesTwoCents!?!?!?!??!

I really enjoy your clips.Happy i found your channel!

Ive had an idea like this for a long time. Glad to see it done.

16:10 you’re wrong about using car antifreeze in your loop having growth inhibitors. Linus tech tips did that in whole room water cooling and it failed as it expects significantly high temps of an engine to kill most bacteria.

@Digikidthevoiceofreason

4 жыл бұрын

Linus is the very definition of FAILURE. Don't take anything he does seriously.

@dudder2008

4 жыл бұрын

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason yo dude why the hate ? (Im just a noob and havent seen to many of his vids but ive seen some and they seemed informative)

@kidShibuya

4 жыл бұрын

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason He has built an empire, you?...

@HOkayson

4 жыл бұрын

@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Lols, the failure with one of the most successful tech KZread channels in the world.

"Compete Fialure" 😂😂😂😬😬😬

@blockbertus

4 жыл бұрын

Even the thumbnail is a compete failure. Jay, are you even? 🤣

@NotFoundead

4 жыл бұрын

@@blockbertus r/woosh

@itsbigt3408

4 жыл бұрын

Ophiussa no

@zodspeed

4 жыл бұрын

Ophiussa no

@mattbmxer

4 жыл бұрын

@@NotFoundead no

Thank you for the fun,over the top content. We sure need it !

The humor in your vids, make my day!!!! Keep going, Jay! Cheers.

Alternative Title: Let's Watch Jay Put Probably Too Much Antifreeze in his Mouth.

@DamnZodiak

4 жыл бұрын

What would be the correct amount of antifreeze to put in your mouth?

@jimmah4life

4 жыл бұрын

@@DamnZodiak All of it.

KZread auto captions calls him Jay's $0.02 XD I'm dying

@76TyranT76

4 жыл бұрын

And it's perfectly correct !

@noxious89123

4 жыл бұрын

JAY POINT ZERO TWO DOLLA

@0Forest

4 жыл бұрын

hey some people dont have money as well

@TheRogerbacon

4 жыл бұрын

Jay's too sense

Thx Jay, had a fun time watching this. Reminds me of myself 15 years ago going sub zero with a closed loop using a peltier element. You should indeed use a cold plate where the temperature extremes meet. My waterblocks did not have microfins and I was able to use regular car motor coolant. (P.S. I don't think your setup is a closed loop since your bucket/reservior need to be opened).

I haven't completed watching the video, but had to say that Jay, these experiment video are hugely entertaining. Seriously. I love these, so keep doing them!

When you make a new custom bottom for the block, mill in some fins to inc surface area, they dont have to be micro or small since the fluid will be thicker.

@Celician83

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, just like the bottom of a LN2 pot, you need holes in it to catch some of the coolant so there is more surface area used

@johnsherby9130

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t have a “science license” but I was thinking fewer big fins just like you said. Just a flat piece of metal doesn’t seem like it would give the cold a good chance of “winning”

@Damicske

4 жыл бұрын

I think LTT did that with some custom blocks for a switch

"When I'm not sure what to do I stick my finger in!" - Story of my life

@MrKnowledge0014

4 жыл бұрын

How many girls or boys did you just stick a finger in ?

@Jayztwocents. I have a refrigeration background. Many large scale facilities use Co2 in a separate closed loop, set in a resivour of either ammonia or glycol. It would take some planning, but it won't cost as much as the Tech that was destroyed.

Hey something I've seen other people use is winter washer fluid. Its really thin but good down to -40c. Awesome video!

11:06 Thank you Jay for knowing that dry ice sublimates and not saying that it melts.

This is like watching Tim Allen's Home Improvement Tech Edition! :D :D

@Svuppedasker

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought. That pump needs MORE POWER!

@edwinconcepcion1135

4 жыл бұрын

@@Svuppedasker Hahahaha! :D

@dudeguyman77

4 жыл бұрын

TOOL TIME

@Digikidthevoiceofreason

4 жыл бұрын

Home Improvement was an awesome show. I miss it. Tim Allen is a genius.

love the experiment!! keep trying new things.

this is awesome to watch two cent jay ALL DA WAY FROM SOUTH AFRICA

I really want a part 2 to this video.

Love the videos and have learned A LOT from them, but my favorite part by far is how much of a dad Jay can be in his videos with all the jokes. Also Phil we love Phil!!!!!

i love the fail/problem videos as you learn more

After watching this, I had a thought. So I went to the kitchen, opened the freezer. Got out the ice tray. Took 3cubes and placed them in a clear cylinder of glass I let them sit for about a minute for appropriate thermal transfer. I proceeded to get a chemical solution of C2H5OH and pour it over the ice. There is an instant display of heat transfer. I swirl the cubes in the glass for a bit more thermal transfer. I then add a bit of C30H32N8O10. Then I watched this video again. Great job guys. Great job.🥃

Rather than feeding the LN into the liquid going through the loop, sit a metal coil potion of the loop in the LN and feed that cooled liquid through the rest of the loop to the CPU.

@GDTF88

4 жыл бұрын

or even just a submersed radiator

@AndrewSmith-nk9kf

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah better off to run a metal coil in the bucket that way you don’t have to worry about it sucking the carbon dioxide through the loop

@the_Scarlet_one

4 жыл бұрын

I was going to say that I didn’t think the Dry Ice should touch the glycol. Maybe the reservoir inside of a second bucket so that the dry ice surrounds the liquid but doesn’t touch the liquid. Using the radiator in the bucket could also work. Basically ice bucket cooling with Dry Ice.

@robertwillis8934

4 жыл бұрын

I think you should do it like you're melting chocolate have the reserve set down in the dry ice water and be totally separate but the dry ice water cooling down the pot

Even though it failed, this was still one of the most interesting videos in a long time =)

@allynj2272

4 жыл бұрын

100% agree!!

i love these videos, keep making them now

I hit the like button and it shocked me Jay. Thanks.

Jay: I'll figure out what to do with all this dry ice. Dry ice screaming intensifies.

I think the last time I Googled, "Bat Shit Crazy" I got a link to Jay.

@jyvben1520

4 жыл бұрын

so cool ;-)

I find this video "quite entertaining" Jay! Thanks for the laughs!

Jay, on your behalf I finally ordered myself one of those... TRUSTY IFIXIIIIIT kits, definitely worth the price 👌🏻

"This is my biggest failure yet..." That's a bold statement.

@Wereskeleton

4 жыл бұрын

The motherboard drilling incident.

@pixel_arc8550

4 жыл бұрын

Or the "ripped an smd off a titan rtx" incident

@XionEternum

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wereskeleton Damn... you beat me to it...

3:32 is the best thing I’ve ever seen on this channel, I’m not sure how he’s calling it a mistake.

@RipJawsX95

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO XD

I don't know if this would be possible but a cross flow block might be better suited for the dry ice cooling just because you won't have to deal with the same amount of back pressure like your jet nozzle was giving you. It would. For all intents and purposes. Be almost like a free flowing loop at that point. When your block is machined make sure to keep a few thicker fins to increase surface area contact between the liquid and the cold block. Look forward to the follow up on this one

I'm talking a little out of my field, but i am aerospace undergrad. But the thing you need to know is that no matter how thick or thin the block is, the temp will always try to reach an equilibrium. I cant tell you the problem exactly but i can tell you two things that would give you a chance to figure it out. First is the liquid you’re using might have a really low thermal conductivity, meaning that it just wont be efficient enough to transfer the heat. To fix this you could try changing the liquid to something less organic. Liquid metals have the highest thermal conductivity. The second thing is that it is never a good idea to rapidly cool metal, so you could have a closed loop with really long tubes, and run them through a body of the liquid where you monitor the temp of that one and cool it down when needed. Best part is that you don’t need to know the temp of the intermediate closed system because you know if the open system is tending towards equilibrium with the computer, you know the intermediate system is too. That being said I still would so you know how efficiently that is transferring heat from the computer to the open system. I don’t have my degree yet but I hope this helped :)

@jonpaulpepen9470

4 жыл бұрын

Recent Aero grad here (3 years is recent right? I'm not old yet right?). I'm curious, how far along are you and what do you plan on focusing on? If you get the chance to take a heat and mass transfer class, I highly recommend even if it's not required (sometimes is, sometimes isn't), especially if you want to get into propulsion. If you aren't afraid of some self-study, you might be able to find an older copy of heat and mass transfer by incropera and dewitt floating around online which is fairly readable (of course I'd recommend buying things like that if you can...but I know how things be in college...). I had to teach myself from that book in the span of a week for when I was doing work as a thermal-fluids engineer for a large aerospace company, I can't say it's the best textbook but it got the job done with almost no fluff

@ryangoodridge7363

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Paul Pepen that’s cool, I’m just going into second year and yeah I pick space systems and design, so more space focused, but I’ll probably still take the class, thanks for the heads up

6:19 "Get to the choppa" Style XD

"I didn't know what to do, I just sticked my finger in" JayzSexTips

Failure or not, this was a really cool experiment!!! Can't wait for the epilogue!

Yes, more jay trying crazy things

12:12 dons’t hurt you to like the video. Me at 1:04 am liking the video, but then having the phone hit my face. I want compensation

*6:13** this is the most Jay thing I’ve ever seen*

Always entertaining thanx J

This was a wild ride from start to finish, Jay. You outdid yourself, you crazy son of a gun!

7:30 Dry ice is indeed solidified carbon dioxide

@RMeitzen

4 жыл бұрын

And wet ice is solified dihydrogen monoxide

@WayStedYou

4 жыл бұрын

@@RMeitzen I prefer liquid dihydrogen monoxide with cubes of solid dihydrogen monoxide

@samiraperi467

4 жыл бұрын

@@WayStedYou I'll take my cubes in something with C2H5OH.

@skaterbi922

4 жыл бұрын

im not smart enough to be here

@jamiemahoney2446

4 жыл бұрын

So toxic. Careful kids.

Sometimes I watch these videos just for the laughs 😂🤣

@tygarza7032

4 жыл бұрын

Always makes my day 😂

Your videos are very entertaining to watch man

Glad your back to your old better videos ..

“Punch Steve in his hair!” Lmao! Awesome Jay!

6:19 JayZ Two Schwarzenegger

@thatrealba

4 жыл бұрын

Jay is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY taller.

@myghtanymus9186

4 жыл бұрын

xdddd

As a recent Mech. E graduate who designed a cooling block array for my senior project, I have a few notes that might be helpful for the next iteration. 1) Beefing up the cooling block is good because it increases your capacity to absorb thermal energy from the CPU. But, as others have mentioned, surface area is more important. More surface contact between the coolant and the block means a higher bandwidth for energy to flow from the block into the glycol; more fluid molecules are in contact with the block, allowing for a higher rate of energy transfer. 2) If possible, I would use copper instead of whatever generic machining aluminum (probably 6060 or something) is used in the block you have now. Copper has like twice the thermal conductivity of aluminum, so the rest of your loop only has to be half as effective for the same results. 3) Minor detail, but making some kind of semi-lid will help prevent some of the cold air from escaping and increase your cooling duration, only slightly. Just keep a small opening to prevent pressure buildup and to let you add more ice. On a side note, I would apply a sealant (maybe silicone) around the CPU block. It seems like condensation would be a real concern after running the loop for extended periods of time. Cover up that motherboard! Also, that glycol coagulation thing is rough. Unfortunately my experience with coolants is limited so I can't really offer an alternative that'll stay less viscous as it cools. Good luck!

I like videos like this one. Failure is the fisrt step of the process of learning new things

everyone: having a longer gpu then the motherboard itself jay: 4:55

@theswaff699

4 жыл бұрын

Mine is shorter, a Mirco atx board with a mini itx 1660 super

@masternobody1896

4 жыл бұрын

amd vs intel...blue pill vs red pill.......i would choose intel....for gaming for now atleast ..........whatts your choice

@SullySadface

4 жыл бұрын

@@masternobody1896 tell me more about Intel graphics cards.

@masternobody1896

4 жыл бұрын

@@SullySadface look at amd and nvidia...lol...intel is a cpu

"When I don't know what to do I just stick my finger in." - JayzTwoCents 2020

@NapFloridian

4 жыл бұрын

Her feedback: (Smiles)

When I first documented myself on DICE cooling i read that alcohol is used to transfer the cold form the dry ice to the pot, because it doesnt freeze at those temps. so maybe you could try to use isopropyl alcohol instead of the antifreeze, it should flow way better because it's not thick and it freezes below -89 °C so it should be safe to run

Best series on yt

Hey jay I love what u do and u inspired me to build my own pc building company

@benwasserlauf7359

4 жыл бұрын

Hey jay my company is just starting up but we’re getting bigger slowly and my dream was for one day we work together and do something amazing anyway thanks for the amazing content i love u man keep doing what your doing

Being a career mechanic I can taste the antifreeze though the screen

Looking forward to part 2!!

Hey Jay. Just to give you some pro tips. I'm an industrial refrigeration tech. If you install a dehumidifier in your shop you can actually use L02 with no insulation and no condensation frost will occur. And if you get a refractometer for your coolant you can specify the freeze point. You should run alcohol as your coolant. Really hard to freeze and it doesn't sludge up even At -50. Good luck on your second try. We have freezers that go to -65 degrees F. They are as big as your shop though.

@fenchak87

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Munters Dehumidifiers.

Thumbnail: Compete Fialure Me: *COMPLETE FAILURE*

@Q8Police777

4 жыл бұрын

Wow you're a genius they should preserve your brain in a museum

@johnsherby9130

4 жыл бұрын

It still says compete

@TakMan2012

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it was misspelled deliberately

@FastSloth87

4 жыл бұрын

My brain auto-corrected the thumb!

@1castellp

4 жыл бұрын

please misspell correctly next time

Jay: *Messes up board.* Jay: I'm never gonna financially recover from this.

On your pumps, place a fin heat sink with 2 cooling fans, this should help with the build up of condensation . We at Farver-TRONICS Inc., are working on sub cooling in a vacuumed environment (SCVE) in ways, we are working with extreme cooling, with no condensation, in the SCVE

Jay, I work with industrial pumps daily, and have worked on Ice slurry machines. You may want to add a filter on the suction side of the pump in conjuction with the dry ice filter. Also you could use a pump that handles more viscous materials rather than a standard cpu cooling pump. Something like a March pump, or some type of circulation pump that is rated for chemical usage would easily do the trick.

I've had my science license taken away from me by the accreditation group of my profession, but I wanted to tell you that I truly do enjoy your videos. I love the chemistry you have with Phil. Your work is much more entertaining and engaging than so many other of your peers. Thank you for what you do. Please do not get disheartened by experimental design failure. Your science is right. You perhaps do not have the tools/equipment necessary to prove it yet.

@jakecrowley6

4 жыл бұрын

Why did you get your license taken away?

Breaking News: General Motors Approves Dex Cool coolant for PC dry ice loops.

@thatrealba

4 жыл бұрын

GM can barely stay in business. Not listening to this jackwagons.

Jay scraping on the dry ice gave me goose bumps...

Hey Jay, maybe try denatured alcohol for the coolant? It can go much colder before freezing and is much lower viscosity than the glycol antifreeze. Just be aware of itself relatively low boiling point.

“Science license” best part of the video 😂😂

The Arnold impersonation was on point. I’m still laughing.😂

@polednice242

4 жыл бұрын

It was impressively accurate

Have a look at Norprene Industrial Grade Tubing A-60-G, it is a better choice of material if you are going for soft tubing. It has a greater thermal operation range of -76° F and +275° and better at operation under higher pressures with a rating for 0.55 bar.

As the great Adam Savage is fond of saying "failure is always an option" plus you learn way more from your failures. I can't wait to see what you come up with next!!

who else watches jay just to hear jay sounds that he makes

@jyvben1520

4 жыл бұрын

there is a song in there ...

I clicked like even though it hurt a little bit

Hi jay. You can put all of your component into a mineral oil bath so you can avoid the condensation, at least you can see a little solidification of oil near the block, you can use a fan into the oil to reduce this effect. Take the pump on the hotter part of the loop, so you can handle better the increment of density of the collant and condensation. For the coolant you can try to use alcohol. An than the experiment BeCoME VerY GoooooD.... If the pump group makes problem you can use a radiator to increase the temp of the coolant at the inlet of the pump. The loop if closed is better (for the pump) you can use multiple radiator in a tin to increment the quantity of energy exchanged with the loop. You can find the threshold(sufficient number of radiator) with a monitoring the temp of the loop and the tin. Good luck for the next video It will be awesome as usual

as well with that new plate go for coarse fins for the thicker coolant cause just a flat plate wouldn't have enough surface area its why ive seen some ln2 pots with holes drilled down into the base kinda like fins

Dry Ice is just frozen CO2 - so all you're doing is returning it to the gaseous form which is Carbon Dioxide.

@DarkBloodLP

4 жыл бұрын

And CO2 is not solid or liquid in its natural state?

@icekatta

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkBloodLP what is natural state?

@friedrichhartmann3539

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkBloodLP No, it's a gas. One of the most commonly known ones

@friedrichhartmann3539

4 жыл бұрын

@@icekatta Matter at room temperature pretty much. If you find it out in the wild on a warmish day, is it a solid, liquid or a gas

@xorinzor

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkBloodLP you're probably confused with C (carbon), CO2 is a gas. There's a video on youtube from NileRed who turns diamonds (carbon) into CO2 to make sparkling water (spoiler: it doesn't taste any different).

no one: The thumbnail: COMPLETE FIALURE

@nudlz5343

4 жыл бұрын

compete

Love this video, thank you.

Cool video. I have 2 ideas try using alcohol as the coolant since it has a -114c freezing point and should be thin enough you can keep the fins in the block to increase the thermal transfer surface area why it’s there in the first place. And to avoid the issues of the dry ice off gassing you can run metal tubes or a couple rads inside a dry ice liquid bath to separate the 2 liquids and prevent the issue from ever occurring

last time I was this early Intel was dominating

@selrah

4 жыл бұрын

Damn last time I was this late intel was on 14 nm.

@guyincognito5663

4 жыл бұрын

Charles McCarty 🔥ouch🔥

@Bunster

4 жыл бұрын

last time I was this early, Intel was still the best for gaming... ohh wait they still are.

@whorutothink

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bunster By a very small margin...meanwhile the adults are using ThreadRippers for anything productivity related, i.e. real work.

@Bunster

4 жыл бұрын

@@whorutothink The 10900k gets 30 fps more than a 3900x in most games, that's not a very small margin, and just because you don't need a pc for work doesn't mean you aren't an adult, that's a very closed minded, childish thing to say.

JayzTwocents: In case you forget who I am. Me: Are you volcom?

I am loving how you are going from Janky to better planned. You know machined stuff? Its really cool

This was such a great video:)

These are the children that get to play with $3000 dollar CPUs. I’m jealous

Something really obvious that you're missing...? Call Linus, he would be happy to help you with block machining👍

@mwnciboo

4 жыл бұрын

De8auer would be my first call...

@PrimeRsoul

4 жыл бұрын

Just don't let him hold it when it's done.

@jjbankert

4 жыл бұрын

I immediately thought of the experience that Alex now has with designing his own blocks (for the Red camera)

@fran5377

4 жыл бұрын

L O C K D O W N

@Chaosdude341

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Give Alex some more excuses to play in his new dream shop! Love the Maker style content.

Awesome. Failures teach. Cannot wait to see rev2.

I'm in possession of two science licences (Electrical Engineering and Biomedical Engineering): 1) Do NOT increase the thickness of the metal coldplate. It won't help unless you're dealing with high-frequency temperature spikes. Since it'll mean that you lose the microfins in the block, it will even worsen your results. You probably know that more surface area = better. 2) The same goes for the jetplate. It's there on purpose, to push the liquid through the fins so you properly make use of all that surface area. If the liquid is too thick to properly flow through the fins, removing the jetplate won't do anything useful besides reducing the workload of the pumps. Those things don't like pushing very hard if they're not build for it. 3) The use of car coolants might not be as useful as you think. That stuff doesn't freeze until -40C (or the idiot-equivalent in F), but it's not made to be effective at that temperature. Some of those liquids are actually designed to be in-effective at subzero temperatures! That's because an engine doesn't like to run cold, so you'd want to quickly warm it up and only start proper heat conduction around the operating temperature. 4) It might sound odd, but an old coldplate (or a very cheap one) might do the trick for you. Those tend to have less fine fins, so the liquid has a more easy time to flow, but you still have way more surface area than without those things. The problem would be mounting it on a brand new socket, but I know Linus has some experience with janky solutions :P. 5) To help your pumps, you should change the order of the components. So ice bucket -> CPU_block -> pump -> ice bucket. Pumps don't like high viscosity liquids, so heating it up first might help a tiny bit. I know it's a bad idea to have the pump before the reservoir, so you could add a secondary reservoir between the CPU block and the pump to make life easier. 6) Try an alcohol-based liquid. Though you might need to exchange the tubing when you do, it has better viscosity properties at low temperatures and has very well documented thermal properties as well.