To explain McCoy's accent, there is an episode of the original series where he, Kirk and Spock are exposed to a disease where they rapidly age. The older McCoy gets the more prominent his southern accent gets until he's basically colonel saunders.

Dude, I’m so glad somebody brought up the guy in the skirt! I thought I was going to my grave alone with that. Did you notice how buff dude was, his Cena-size arms? You can imagine the discussion looking over the extras pool - ‘Who are we putting in a skirt to make a point… oh that guy for sure.’

Picard is freaking out about kids because in the normal course of events, Starfleet vessels do not have children on them. The Enterprise is different though, it's the flagship of the fleet & it's primary function is actually diplomatic. As a way of demonstrating that the ship is not a warship, or the vanguard of an invasion, the crew are permitted to have their families live with them on board. It is worth keeping that in mind, it's kinda wild the amount of times Enterprise just leaps into the middle of complete insanity while having 20-30 actual children on the ship !!

Roddenberry was really bucking the trend with TOS and TNG by depicting a utopian future for humanity. In a time of Mad Max, Escape from New York, The Warriors, Robocop, etc, Gene gave us an alternative where humanity *finally* got their 💩 together. We put on our big boy pants and figured it out.

@DembaiVT

7 ай бұрын

That is a really good point it was a really big thing back then to have extreme dystopia and even Roddenberry did bring that in with the concept of humanity kind of went straight downhill for a while and then they got their s*** together

I don't think the writers intended it at the time, but looking back at this episode after seeing the whole show, it definitely feels like Q was using reverse psychology on Picard and actually trying to help humanity. It really feels like Q was being intentionally hostile towards Picard for most of the episode so that Picard wouldn't listen to him when he told Picard to blow up the jellyfish alien.

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

It retcons very neatly

I’m glad to see that Dr. Pepper has lasted until the 24th century. Unless that is a 400 year old can of soda. Then that’s a very expensive and likely disgusting can of soda.

@DashingPunkSamurai

Жыл бұрын

Star Trek casual here, but is the Food Replicator capable of replicating a drink from the past? Including the can?

@paradoxequinox4104

Жыл бұрын

@@DashingPunkSamurai I'm pretty sure it can if it had the design of it.

@aprilk141

Жыл бұрын

@@DashingPunkSamurai as long as the replicator has the recipe it can male anything. Notice how it also creates the cups bowls and plates. It could make a violin or handgun too

@irishbob26

Жыл бұрын

How can a replicator recreate the taste of Dr pepper when in present day we can't even agree on what the taste is?

@aprilk141

Жыл бұрын

@@irishbob26 it's more advanced than we currently are

Miles o'Brian is the most important person in star trek u wait and see

@matthewkreps3352

Жыл бұрын

It's true!

@damenwhelan3236

2 ай бұрын

Obrien must suffer.

Apparently orginally there was talk amongst writers and Gene about Wesley being Picard's secret son. But ultimately they decided that made Picard too evil...especially since Picard sent Beverly's husband to his death.

@ConnorApps

Жыл бұрын

This is actually how I have just found out that he isn't his dad lol

@matthewkreps3352

Жыл бұрын

Consider this then. Picard is so guilt ridden about sending Mr. Crusher to his death, that he looks after Wesley as if he was his son.

@irishbob26

Жыл бұрын

Still think picard porked Beverly though.

@TheBlackstaff

Жыл бұрын

@@irishbob26 If I remember there is an ep where he and bev are dying on a planet and he asks if he's the kids dad meaning the boinked.

Oh & btw, if you "have the conn", it means you have "the status of being in control of the ship's movements". Normally the captain "has the conn", meaning they direct the helmsman/pilot (Geordi in S1) where to go & how fast to get there.

[Me] Computer: Soda, Doctor Pepper, cold, in the can. [Replicator] This unit is unable to vend objects in a restroom facility. Please restate request.

It is wild watching the first dozen or so episodes of TNG and realizing they had NO plan for what these characters roles were on the ship, especially compared to how formulaic the character roles would become in future series. What the heck was Worf, Geordi and Miles even there for? They were completely superfluous! Especially when Wesley stole the helm position! And why wasn't there a chief engineer on the main cast? Why was the councilor on the bridge? Absolutely wild. Also, Miles is the unsung hero of the Federation. Straight up. One of the best characters in the whole franchise.

Miles O'Brien is one of my very favorite Trek characters of all time. one of the only named enlisted personnel in the franchise.

When it comes to the Star Fleet dress code, one thing to understand is that Gene Roddenberry's opinion on sex was "Yes please!".

Encounter At Farpoint was initially a double-length episode. It was split into two parts for repeats (I think you guys call these re-runs, but I’m not sure. We call them repeats in my country). From your commentary, it seems you think it was the other was around. The. first time that I watched this episode, I had no idea that was Dr. McCoy.

@DembaiVT

7 ай бұрын

I recall my parents got into an argument about whether or not that was actually McCoy and neither of them actually believe that it was McCoy they just figured it was an actor pretending to be him. That actor was DeForest Kelly, but yeah. 😂 (the argument was how inappropriate it was to not have the real actor there. He was there, they're both ridiculous.)

I was just starting college. My brothers watched it right away. I distinctly remember the second Q episode from S1 when it aired. Those S1 eps were, in my mind, newer versions of TOS--very Roddenberryish; kinda stiff. I totally panned the show until S4. My brother told me about the Borg and said, "You've got to see this. The show is WAY better than it was in the first year." He was right. Watched Seasons 4-6 when they aired. Got busy getting married during S7, so there are some of those I've still never seen.

O'Brien went to DS9 to give it some oomph to start out. Worf went over for the same reason--the show was struggling at that time, and it was to get TNG fans more interested and follow it.

Yes, Gene wrote the whole "Q" plot line and shoehorned it into DC Fontana's Farpoint script to make it a feature length premier (which he didn't want). Then took 50% of the writing credit for himself which didn't go over well with Fontana.

@Sensei_BigJoe

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Gene smh

@kingzgaming4031

9 ай бұрын

You do know DC fontana is a women right?

i wonder if McCoy showed up to give us an idea of how long after tos this takes place. like, we know it's a good long while, because bones is looking more like dem bones dem bones, but still within the lifetime of the original cast. the originals are still alive and around, and may return some day.

Geordi La Forge was originally the helmsman before he became the chief engineer. O'Brien is a Chief Petty Officer, an NCO.

@Chad-xh8zs

Ай бұрын

They mess that up a lot and sometimes he’s a lieutenant

Their cartoon avatars are giving Sealab 2020 vibes and its awesome. Like hourly workers just chilling in TenForward after their shift lol

Miles O'Brian is literally just some dude who somehow always ends up getting assigned to work with these like, ridiculously heroic & charismatic people. He's a total NPC but I kinda love him :D "The minstrel boy to war is gone. in the ranks of death ye will find him. His father's sword he hath girded on, with his wild harp slung behind him."

@krim7

7 ай бұрын

He truly is a background character thrust forward into the main cast everywhere he goes.

A huge part of TNG makes so much more sense if you make up the backstory that Riker and Troi are both somewhat con artists who faked their way into their position.

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@Sagitarria

Жыл бұрын

@@NewbieStarTrek I’m sure you’ve already met the person Riker hates more than anyone else.

You guys do a great job of hinting at future plotlines without actually revealing anything. I've watched Star Trek since the very early 70's (shame since I wasn't alive when they were originally aired) but you are bringing this to a new generation. Thank you.

33:15 I think it’s at the cost of pain because all that information from most (or maybe all?) of the electromagnetic spectrum is being fed directly into his brain all at once, and it constantly has to work overtime, not only to process that information into something resembling“sight”, but also to parse insignificant stuff like our brain does effortlessly for our normal eyes. When you see through his visor in a later episode it’s not 100% exactly what he sees because it’s being converted from all kinds of different frequencies into visible light the rest of the crew can see. Any device showing those frequencies, that doesn’t send them directly to the brain will never be able to show our eyes what he truly sees. As for why he can’t numb the pain idk! I’ve got theories that range from “his brain uses part of that pain to interpret certain parts of the information” to “maybe a side effect of treatment causes an effect like double vision for us” to “he wants to appear like a hard-ass to people” lol.

Andromeda with Kevin Sorbo was the other series you couldn’t remember

@aprilk141

Жыл бұрын

Honestly it's a good day for anyone if they don't remember Kevin Sorbo.

Ahhh love this podcast! I listened to all four seasons over the last month or so and now I don't know what to listen to while I'm doing stuff anymore 😭 This is really cool too, keep it up!

@soundlessfob5925

Жыл бұрын

I'm still a bit salty you all hate Q though 😂

@Seven_Suits_Up

Жыл бұрын

@@soundlessfob5925me too! Poor Q!

IIRC canonically the TOS Enterprise is also supposed to be able to separate the Saucer-section but it was never done in the show

I love ds9, miles is one of the best characters

@AglaiaAkefia

Жыл бұрын

Until Dax was Nicole De Bour.

@tomhossain2099

Жыл бұрын

@@justincider8892except Dax????? What nonsense.

So I just found this out through shorts popping up on my feed. Guess I gotta start from the beginning now! Lmao.

Miles is great and gets fleshed out so much more in DS9 but the BEST is the Lonely Miles comics... fantastic

I always got the impression it was Data's choice to join Starfleet. They didn't make him do it, he said "I wanna do it" and they said "Cool, sign up here."

I love your podcast and absolutely love your KZread shorts from the podcast. I always wished you would do the whole podcast with the show clips. I'm so excited your doing this. Thank you.

@LiveLongandPodcast

Жыл бұрын

🖖

I'm so happy I ran into your shorts of your podcasts! It's been about 2 years since I last watched TNG and you guys poking at some holes and analyzing Star Trek has me rolling Jerry Reed! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So I've re-watched this a few times since listening to the podcast. I think that the manual docking was done to showcase Riker's skill to his immediate subordinates to build quick trust with them. It's why there's a lot of smiling reaction shots from the crew once it's completed.

This should be interesting to listen to because I'm definitely a more hardcore fan than anyone on this podcast 🤣🤣 btw found this channel via the hilarious YT shorts!

Its so hard not to be critical, knowing how much better the first two seasons coukd have been written and shot and acted.

Just got my best friend into Star Trek for the first time, we’re starting with TNG as well. On season 4 now and going strong!

Woo! Glad to see these out in the wild! So cool! Can't wait to relisten and watch these for the first time :)

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

Ur da GOAT

Miles keeps showing up because apparently Colm Meaney is a really nice guy, and just a pleasure to work with. When they needed a random crewman, many times they would just call him up for the role because they liked him. That’s how he ended up growing into a really important character.

Alright I've probably watched at least 40 of the shorts , so you got me. I'm starting here at the beginning. Wish me luck.

@MissMadCherry

3 ай бұрын

Haha same!

I like your animated Q easter egg cameo near the end of the pod.

I love the idea of Bones embracing his confederate roots in his older days. XD

I kind a can relate to Picard being uncomfortable with kids. He has no idea how to talk to them, should he treat them like adults, should he talk down to them....? He has no idea how to approach them and still represent the authority of a captain. I kind a get that. And he simply wants Riker to handle interaction with kids so he doesn't have to.

Separating the saucer at high warp sounds really difficult! Nope. It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience!

@joecoolmccall

6 ай бұрын

O really? 😊

I just started watching these TNG reviews and now I have to binge every episode.

Awesome. Something to listen to in work for weeks to come

How am I so late to this? This podcast is now my next couple months at work with my ear buds in.

So this is an exciting podcast for me, because I grew up watching TNG as a kid. Granted, our family didn't start watching until it caught my parents' notice around Season 3, but even if they had watched it from the get-go, I would have been barely 3 when Encounter at Farpoint premiered. Thank heavens for syndication though, because it allowed me to catch up and watch the entire show. New episodes would air on Thursdays (and I could only watch after I did my timestables), so I watched most of Season 3 and all of Seasons 4-7 new. But after the show ended, it still was on other networks (mainly Space later on) in the 5 pm slot, the perfect show for after school. So gradually, I saw all the episodes (most of them, many times over). By now, I've also seen pretty much all of TOS (give or take an episode or two I think); none of the Animated Series (apart from some clips); all of the movies; only a smattering of DS9 (my parents switched it off maybe a season in, and I started watching it on Netflix but only got a bit into Season 1, since it left Netflix); 99% [if not all] of Voyager (my parents liked that show better for some reason - and we only had 1 TV growing up); All of Enterprise; then only 3 episodes of Discovery, 1 episode of Picard, and nothing else, mostly because I'm too lazy to pirate stuff anymore, and too poor to buy Crave or Paramount + or whatever (plus Discovery and Picard seem pretty mid, from what I've heard/read). I would really like to see Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds though. And I would LOVE to finally see all of DS9, dammit! You also got me through a bunch of the shorts, so, starting at the beginning now.

@MNGoldenEagle

7 күн бұрын

The Animated Series was surprisingly good for the time! I just watched it last year and it feels a lot like if the Original Series didn't have to worry about trying to accomplish a plot with practical effects.

31:01 Data has agency. Star fleet disnt say "come join us!" Data said "I'd like to join starfleet"

In star trek, there's something of a traditional to have a character from a previous show appear in the pilot of a new one to hand off the torch, so to speak

I absolutely love the podcast, listen to it is like I’m rewatching the show for the first time. By the way the reason McCoy is acting off with Data is because part of his character is he is distrustful or uncomfortable with technology it’s the reason why he refuses to use the transporter, and in the original series he tends to favour more traditional remedies. It’s also part of his relationship with Spock, he is uncomfortable at times with a Vulcans belief in pure logic and it makes McCoy and Spocks friendship really fun .

O'Brian was sent to ds9 due to fan popularity I have heard

You're prediction Riker's phallic manual control stick in Insurrection :D

I just discovered your channel today and subscribed. You guys are hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Full Betazoids should be mandatory bridge crew

Hes more than a hero, hes a union man

32:54 The cure for Geordie would involve genetic augmentstion. The show writers where still unsure how the ban on genetic augments would manifest. So they just applied it sweepingly. No genetic augmentation at all.

@Jiisa

Ай бұрын

I thought he later stated that he'd been offered his sight back several times but declined. I always thought it was because it would involve robot eyes or something. By one of the later movies he gets a contact lenses version of the visor.

@damenwhelan3236

Ай бұрын

@Jiisa Yes. It involved prosthetics. But the new contacts are less invasive.

The person walking in the conference room in the intro was there in the original broadcast, always thought that was one of the coolest little details thrown in, and always wondered how they did it as a kid. Lol

would be cool if you could add still images of the stuff they are talking about like the "broken umbrella"

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

It's a LOT of extra work we frankly don't have time for. It was already a year or so worth of work to get these animations going

@LiveLongandPodcast

Жыл бұрын

We got you covered when it comes to images 🖖

@ThomasMikkelsenEverStoned77

Жыл бұрын

@Newbie Star Trek what a shame, I would've been much more interested if you had done that instead of these moving lips stills, don't get why it would take that long to simply record the audio & run the episode at the same time but I'd guess that it's a monetization thing but hey I lasted 10mins, good luck

This is good stuff. Geordi doesn't get into engineering until later though. Miles has all kinds of re cons...he goes from a low ranking ensign to I think a lt. to a completely non commissioned non enlisting. Just weird...but good show.

You guys are all a great team.

thanks algorithm. I need something longform to keep me entertained on my second monitor during my cozy games time. Got me some catching up to do.

Gene was still pissed about bot getting alot of the ship set built in TOS. So I in the first episode of TNG Picard walks through the whole ship so they had to build the sets and I think the saucer section scene was shoehorned in for similar reasons.

I've caught a few episodes of this podcast and love them, now I'm gonna watch the whole thing from the beginning cause it's so damn good! Also I can't be eating while watching this cause I laugh so much!!!

Enjoyed this. Subscribed and will listen to the rest

How am I over half a year late discovering this? This is my kind of podcast. Edit: I set my fasor to 1987 and it shot out cocaine. How did I never know this was an option before?

@MalloryKnox.

7 ай бұрын

Me too, it will be my night,y falling asleep thing for the foreseeable.

Rickie does do that with a manual joystick in the insurrection movie

i think id start to lean more into my southern accent when i get older and grumpier

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

That's fair

@hyhena-gaming9986

Жыл бұрын

@@NewbieStarTrek now ido hope you dont mind a star trek fancommenting any inacuracy or clarification as he goes through this podcast lol, if that would bother yall i will restrain myself

McCoy showed up on the Enterprise to sign off on Sickbay systems and he was on his way off the ship when we caught up with him.

I think I just stumbled across the OSW review of star trek ..... and I love it!

Dress shoes can be comfortable. I wore dress shoes every day for years.

i really enjoy the direction you guys went with this. maybe have a screen showing screenshots of specific visuals youre talking about

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

This about as far as well get with visuals, it's already a lot of work to source the clips.

The explanation for McCoy turninng into Colonel Sanders is simple. He got old and stopped caring. That seems to happen to everyone who makes it past a certain point in life.

Why would McCoy interact with Data? Simple- there are no green blooded Vulcans to make fun of lol

I love this podcast! ❤

I can't wait until you start DS9. It's peak Star Trek imho

Leonard Murray Maizlish, Gene's lawyer was deeply involved in TNG, at least the start.

Finally I can attach faces to these voices

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

Hey, we read your letter!

@zacksnyder5861

Жыл бұрын

@@NewbieStarTrek I was very surprised, and I really do appreciate it, thanks! ♥

I love the Florida man concept

Are all of them going on YT??

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

Eventually! One episode a day until we catch up

@Patty_Horseplay

Жыл бұрын

@@NewbieStarTrek Every Day!! Gonna need an intern at this rate.

@NewbieStarTrek

Жыл бұрын

We've been planning this for a while, we've been rendering out episodes for over a month now

arent the klingon a bit like the saiyans from dragonball, like some other race used them as fighters and showed them space travel

@DembaiVT

7 ай бұрын

No. They encountered a race that left a bunch of junk on their planet and they reverse engineered it.

Ive never watched star trek, no idea about it, i love this video

Wooo! Like this format a lot! Keep it up

Epic epic epic!!

Mwahaha, found myself a new podcast to listen to! 😈

This is a great format for a podcast! Love it. Question, do you use AI for the face animations? You must do right otherwise it must take forever to animate

@NewbieStarTrek

7 ай бұрын

Not AI, it's rigged in After Effects and then procedurally animated using our audio. Our friend John Velez was a wizard with it.

Data graduated in '78 but it's '64 when the season ends

Strong disagree about wesley in this episode. Picard completely overreacted on the bridge. Wesley remained on the turbo lift, quietly. He only left when picard invited him on to the bridge, stayed far away from the consoles until picard invited him to have a look. All that happened was an alert came in whilst he was sat in the chair. He had no control over that. If wesley had've been an adult and behaved in that way nobodu would say anything bad. Picard yelling would be unreasonable He also didnt have the attitude of "I know this already why sre you telling me" he was excited to see what picsrd was showing him When he comes out of the holodeck wet he immediately offers to go get a mop to clean up his mess without being prompted He's just a normal aurisic teenager

At least once.... Rookie numbers 😂🤣😂

Is it strange that Riker says Good morning when he is leaving? I feel like you wouldn't say that now

@avidplanes

7 ай бұрын

I thought the same

Isn’t McCoy is from Tennessee in the original series

I have to say, Ricardo looks like he constantly has his hands on his dong and shaking it as he's talking :D

@EuroMIX2

Жыл бұрын

Ricardo watching TNG: "sigh" *unzips*

57:47 >tumblr Explains a lot

If you are ever going to watch just random episodes to get into the show look up all the holodeck episodes they are self contained you don’t have to know anything about the federation first episode I watched was data as Sherlock and a ai as moriarty is still my favorite episode of the show

37:30 There’s a lot of implications that come with a telepathic character, and not just when telling a story. Betazoids value honesty, to a fault sometimes, and that can be a double edged sword. It might help a captain learn enemy secrets or they might discover classified information starfleet doesn’t want known. There’s also the prejudice angle where if you know someone can read your private thoughts you would be angry your privacy was violated, potentially sparking a conflict. In a similar notion, consent can be a big moral issue too for telepathy. With such a powerful ability many individuals might be easily swayed to abuse it. We know Deanna has hers on almost all the time, but maybe because it’s just emotions she senses people give her a pass. Betazoids seems to be aware of many creatures’ emotions, but able to focus onto individuals or block it out. Maybe similar to how hearing works. If so, having thousand of people’s complex thoughts constantly play on a starship might be overwhelming, or at the very least hiding secrets and lying might offend betazoids. Deanna never hesitates to call out people for saying one thing and having conflicting emotions. Even over the smallest issue. L’waxanna is the same way, and she has a superiority complex from it. I think it’s a can of worms any way you slice it tbh with it having potential to be an asset and detriment at the same time. Because of this Betazoids might tend to stick around other telepaths for the most part, or Starfleet might be hesitant of using them.

@DembaiVT

7 ай бұрын

I mean there is also the thing where betazoids who hear too much, kind of go completely batshit if they can't be secluded enough. to deal with hearing everything all the time. Like the guy with Tin Man.

I'll be honest, and it's not a hot take lol, season 1 of TNG is sooo hard to get through. I can watch them now just because I love the characters and I know where it goes but as an intoduction for first time viewers it's awful. 😂

Work - concepts, script ideas, character dynamics -- being developed eventually mutated into Star Trek:The Motion Picture.

Not the planet, the "base" (made the fruit)

@Extinguisher10

6 күн бұрын

:)

It’s better and worse on rewatch

Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a racist.