Bitter Sweet Symphony / ONLY the SAMPLE and VOCAL TRACKS: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jH-uu5uwl82Thag.html

This whole time I thought the violin melody is what was sampled, but it’s actually the stuff (much quieter) behind it. Makes the lawsuit even more spurious and unbelievable.

@jwlazlowicz

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Totally agreed, this realisation makes the copyright dispute an infuriating act of greed.

@1848revolt

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly the stones finally dropped this.

@HeckTo

Жыл бұрын

That same violin melody is in the original version.

@MaggaraMarine

Жыл бұрын

You can still hear basically all elements of the song in the orchestral version. Most importantly, the melody of the song is the same as the melody of the original song. The violin melody is probably the most original part of the song, and it's still not entirely original - you can also hear it in the orchestral version (if you listen to the full version). It's played on piano and it misses some notes. But you can still hear where it comes from. Still, the fact that The Rolling Stones got 100% of the writing credits for this song is a bit strange, since there's almost no resemblance between the original Stones song and Bittersweet Symphony. It does use the same vocal melody, though, so I'm not saying Stones should get no writing credits. But most of the writing credits should go to the arranger of the orchestral version.

@bittertriumph2045

Жыл бұрын

It's still most of the song that's sampled and the violin follows the sampled melody.

Surprised how good it was WITHOUT the sample. Just proves that it's the violins that make this song great.

@joachimb5721

Жыл бұрын

Which is why I thought that this volin part (and nothing else) WAS the sample.

@DarrenKrusi

Жыл бұрын

Not really a symphony without the string ensemble

@BLUc18

Жыл бұрын

But ALL the melody idea is in the sample, it has the disctictive chords that gave The Verve the idea for the violins

@ekklesiast

Жыл бұрын

the melody is not just an idea, it's the same melody played by Rolling Stones on guitar but in a higher octave, plus few added notes

@inayahariffin5264

Жыл бұрын

​@@BLUc18wasn't this written by Keith Richards for the Verve

Can I just say, it still sounds gorgeous without the sample

@teppo9585

Жыл бұрын

The sample adds depth, but without it, I´m sure they could have added something similar there just inspired by the sample to make it just as good. If they had known before hand the hassle the sample would create.

@RunnerLogan

Жыл бұрын

@@teppo9585 I believe you are right. The magic is there just needed to find a similar sample or vibe to add. Regardless it classic no matter where the royalties go.

@coolmacatrain9434

Жыл бұрын

The strings are still a rip off from the Stones original though ..all the verve did was re-record them.

@martin-1965

Жыл бұрын

Fascinating - I thought the entire orchestral string part was the sample. Even without it the song sounds amazing. Pity they got screwed by the lawyers on it but, it still sold millions of albums and gig tickets as well as their other amazing songs so, all in all, The Verve win in the end :)

@coolmacatrain9434

Жыл бұрын

@@martin-1965 This video isn't quite right ..the strings were copied as well, they just re-recorded them rather than sample them .... The Stones deserved to win as the verve added nothing but the lyrics

Best part is Keith Richards acknowledged they used the refrain from an old Gospel Song by The Staples Sisters. So basically the Rolling Stones ripped a song, then Andrew Oldham took the rip of that song and played it with an orchestra, then The Verve ripped it for a sample in this song. However, only The Verve got punished for lack of originality, by the people that weren't original in the first place.

@DmitryGu

Жыл бұрын

You mean The Staple Singers?

@mickreynolds3306

Жыл бұрын

The stones never punished the verve, infact they were insistent that the verve not be punished. They received royalties for the song a couple of years ago, thanks to jagger and Richards.

@2degucitas

Жыл бұрын

​@@mickreynolds3306 Yes, it was their label and management that acted on copyright issues. Kudos to Jagger and Richards for working on behalf of the Verve.

@MrTibbs12

Жыл бұрын

It was allan klein’s greed that caused it..he made enough money off the stones in the 60’s,he didn’t have to go penny pinching 25 years later

@java4653

Жыл бұрын

Beliefs and laws change.

Allen Klein - making life hell for British Rock Musicians since 1969. Thank you for setting it straight.

@nelsonc6173

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man so true...The guy is a ruthless ruthless glutton of a businessman.

@cremetangerine82

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, he’s the mega-villain of music. I call Colonel Tom Parker and Mike Love the second one and third one, consecutively.

@ROOKTABULA

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathangummberg898 You're surprised? Religiosity is a FULL on synonym for _hypocrisy._

@BoboMcBooboy

Жыл бұрын

​@@ROOKTABULA some people don't see it when applied inward, only outward

@BoboMcBooboy

Жыл бұрын

​@@ROOKTABULA I just always love how dismissive religious people are towards all the other like 3999+ religions that still exist today, nevermind all the ones through history... The Christian Right in the states are my favorite.. They view the Romans and Greek gods like "little kid" gods, that they chuckle and mock the idea anybody took seriously... They laugh off and talk around the simple question "well, who is right? Are Muslim teachings true? If so, which ones? Which sect of Islam? What about Hindus and Buddhists?? (Well... Obviously it's Christianity that's right... But it just depends how offensive they want to be with their response, or how "unwoke/not a PC snowflake" they want to be with their answer... ...Or they can tap dance around it forever...) My other favourites are the ones who quote scripture in response to anything and everything in their life, as if remembering scripture is proof of ANYthing besides their brainwashing from their parents/local society/culture for the most part, based on the religion they're born into...

You can never unhear Verve's own bell sample again.

@Texturas75

Жыл бұрын

Actually I did

@djjayem100

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha. Everytime now

@falconeshield

Жыл бұрын

Never paid attention before this vid

This song still hits me all of these years later. It is one of the greatest songs ever put to record.

@JackFate76

Жыл бұрын

nah

@fartkerson

Жыл бұрын

@@JackFate76 yes

@davep2323

Жыл бұрын

lol, each to their own! You must be so upset Soccer AM finished!

@barry4649

Жыл бұрын

No it isn’t 😂

@emalexa

Жыл бұрын

@@barry4649 definitely the best song of the last 30 years

What’s crazy about this is why the Stones continued to receive royalties for this song, when it was the AL Oldham Orchestra that performed it. It was all arranged by the Stones’ manager at the time, Allan Klein. Richard Ashcroft has finally started receiving royalties as songwriter for Bittersweet Symphony when the Stones relented after years of legal wrangling.

@eclectico78

Жыл бұрын

it was the rolling stones they were up against, I get what you're saying, and it was unfair imo, but the stones must have pushed hard in court.

@sabrosapurr

Жыл бұрын

An executive at ASCAP told me that it was really shady how this happened. Allegedly, The Verve's manager thought he made a fair deal with Allan Klein, who agreed to a 50/50 split. But the devil in the details was that he meant a 50/50 split between Jagger and Richards, not The Stones and The Verve, The Verve's manager understood it to be.

@allroundlad

Жыл бұрын

@@eclectico78 It wasn't even the stones, it was their greedy manager Allan Klein who screwed over the verve. After his death, it was actually his own son and the rolling stones who finally gave the song back to the verve and did the right thing.

@richardcrook2112

Жыл бұрын

@@allroundlad The Rolling Stones were angry, Keith Richards said "We were ripped off." They blocked the broadcast of Sisters of Mercy's great version of Gimme Shelter as well. A$$holes.

@uv77mc85

Жыл бұрын

The writers get royalties not the session players

It's insane how much the sample muddles that gorgeous guitar tone. They would've saved themselves so many legal headaches and probably had an even bigger impact without it!

I always thought that the main violin part was the sampled piece from the original, now I understand that it was added by the Verve

@globalcitizenn

Жыл бұрын

But it’s exactly the same as the bells melody

@globalcitizenn

Жыл бұрын

But it’s exactly the same as the bells melody

@edvinparmeza1298

Жыл бұрын

@@globalcitizenn yeah I get it, but it still differs a bit, it's not sampled 100%

@clintfalk

5 ай бұрын

They added it? The Verve or their man at the board recording it?

@muzlp

3 ай бұрын

That was also a sample but not from Stones directly

I never noticed how many layers this song has. Very cool video. Makes you appreciate the song you knew so long on a new level

Damn, they could have still had a hit WITHOUT the sample and thus all the headache.

@antsmith5328

Жыл бұрын

only because the music without the sample is just a note for note copy of it.

@javiceres

Жыл бұрын

Not exactly, Verve’s arrangement is pretty much the same melody/harmony of the original arrangements.

@guanoguy4800

Жыл бұрын

@@javiceres Yeah, but it's sad that the orchestral version seems to have nothing from the original stones song, and thus a shame that that sample, and poor advice from management, led to the 100% theft of their song.

@guanoguy4800

Жыл бұрын

@@antsmith5328 that sample is note for note completely different than the actual stone's song.

@unloveableandre

Жыл бұрын

@@guanoguy4800 and that's infuriates me! RS sued and got ALL the rights for TV song WHEN they themselves were using a sample from another song. The Rolling Hypocrisy. The Nerve to pull that out!

The song that takes me back to being 18 again. Anything was possible, I had all the time in the world.

@kullenberg

Жыл бұрын

There was something magical about the naive optimism of the late '90s. It's might be a worn cliché, but as the saying goes, "you had to be there".

@mattgilbert7347

Жыл бұрын

We thought we were living at the End of History. How wrong was that!

@tk421trading6

Жыл бұрын

No. All the time in the world was Louis Armstrong's... it wasn't your song...

@-______-______-

Жыл бұрын

@@tk421trading6 🤦

@-______-______-

Жыл бұрын

It's a bitter sweet symphony mate.

It’s not only about the sample, the main musical motif also comes from the last time orchestration.

@wootsat

Жыл бұрын

Yea, the heart of the song was there in The Last Time. The Verve built a proper great song on top of it, but the core of the greatness was there.

@bobcurrie1642

Жыл бұрын

Agree with Sam, the 8th note sequence is still (mostly) there in the original, it just got a fresh arrangement. Definitely something you would need the rights for ahead of time. Glad they all worked it out.

@0000song0000

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobcurrie1642the thing always has been (imho) that the original Rolling stones recording sounds nothing like that arrangement... So, tevhnically the autorship of that should have belonged to whoever orchestrated that rendition of the London Orchestra

@bobcurrie1642

Жыл бұрын

@0000song0000, thanks for the reply. I hear ya, and have thought the same, to a degree. I hate that the music world is completely lawsuit crazed. That being said, this one is pretty much a dead-ringer, and they would have been wise to get the rights, regardless of who the owner was.

@lh2155

Жыл бұрын

Which they had permission to use, the thing that makes it even more gutting... The Verve got ripped off big time.

The sample just adds body to a great track.

Without the Verve we would have lost one of the most important songs of the 20th century.

Can't believe The Rollingstones got 100% of the royalties for this.

Ya know, after years of hearing this song, I don’t think I ever knew it sampled a previous work. Based on your video, it seems to me the Verve did a gods job of reworking and melding the sample just enough that it almost seems like it was originally part of their song.

@russelledwards001

Жыл бұрын

I thought Youth produced the track though. He was a bit of a sample fiend...

I remember not even hearing the song when it was premiered on Radio 1, instead going out and buying the CD single and playing it full blast when I got home after school. It was the extended version too (still the superior one), and can still picture me sat there listening to this incredible piece of music for the first time

I actually prefer it without the sample. You can really hear what I believe is McCabe's guitar which gets drowned out and lost when the samples are playing over the top. Edit: Any chance you could remove the samples completely and upload the full song for us? :)

@Altezza1999

2 жыл бұрын

if only there was a full version.

@waanaabe-4795

Жыл бұрын

yes please

@dreamflux6964

Жыл бұрын

So buried in the mix even without sample , sadly

@daveh465

Жыл бұрын

There's an app called moises that breaks song down into tracks.

This channel is a gift for humanity.

@FerryLuckyMan

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

One of the most beautiful pop songs of the last 40 years

So glad The verve finaly got The rights to this song wich was stolen years ago!

@FerryLuckyMan

3 жыл бұрын

The Stone should give them back all the money that they earned thanks to this song!!!

@perofuntime

3 жыл бұрын

@@FerryLuckyMan agreed! thx for this epic chanel

@Quoutub

3 жыл бұрын

The Verve or Richard Ashcroft?

@marvymarier8988

3 жыл бұрын

Stolen from whom ?

@mahonrimartins1767

3 жыл бұрын

But the damage is done already....

I think it’s one of the most incredible pieces of music ever made. I never tire of it. Lucky Man is a song that is incredible too.

Fascinating. The tune is clearly more Verve than Rolling Stones.

Fun fact -I remember they had the Stones version on the PA before their gig when they were just “Verve” in 1993 at Riverside , Newcastle. 2nd fun fact - Oasis were the support act that night. Happy days.

long live The Verve. One of the greatest songs ever written only to be dragged through the mud by people of the mud.

@falconeshield

Жыл бұрын

Boomers man 😂

@_ArmIa

Жыл бұрын

“One of the greatest songs ever written” 💀

@joaoraja

5 ай бұрын

@@_ArmIaand it is one of the greatest (pop) songs ever written hands down by the globe.

Without the sample it's sweet humm 🙏😇🌄🌞

What I love, is that The Stones' Version, Andrew Oldham's version, and The Verve's are all incredible in their own right. I absolutely love all three tracks.

Those samples add so much depth.

@SunshineSuperstar

Жыл бұрын

Too much depth... or to be more accurate... they totally fucking ruined the original with their cluttered noisy garbage! Really makes one's ears bleed!

He deserves the rights to 100 percent of the song he wrote. So glad to see him finally get it handed over by Mick and Keith in 2018. The right thing to do. MODERN DAY BLUES SONG, BABY! A classic x

@wolfgarthefirst5735

2 жыл бұрын

@Sydney Donovon1 Alan Klein is like the supervillain of music

@hdaviator9181

2 жыл бұрын

They should not have accepted it in the first place.

@k.h.304

2 жыл бұрын

it was reported in the last year or two they signed the rights off for the credit of the song to ashcroft.

@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212

Жыл бұрын

This is clearly a Rolling Stones song.

@simonjames1604

Жыл бұрын

@@hdaviator9181 they didnt own it to sign it over, abkco took the lions share.

Wow, there's still loads of orchestration without that sample on there. I never realised.

Im 54, and this song is > than any Rolling Stones song on my hard drive. I don't hate the stones, but this song simply moves me more than any Stones song does.

If you listen to the “Lucky Man” single, there is a song called “MSG”. Which is basically the backing track for Bitter Sweet. Because as far as I can tell, the original sample was not used in the song - rather they recreated the magic the loops gave them. Anyhow, when you mix “MSG” and “BSS” you’ll see what I mean. Have fun, I used to get lost in mixing the two of them together when I discovered this in the 90’s.❤

@SunshineSuperstar

Жыл бұрын

The spng they stole is called "The Last Time" What the fuvk are you talking about?

@joshuahsimons9587

7 ай бұрын

Yup

Sounds great with or without the sample, I'd imagined the strings in the 'without sample' version were part of the infamous and much talked about sample (but then again the sample probably influenced the writing of the music so...). Excellent track in any case!

In the words of Richard Ashcroft: "The best song they ever wrote." 😅 Gotta love that Northern sense of humour. Glad he's finally getting paid for this.

Excellent Stuff. The layers just keep getting deeper and deeper.

I remember seeing an Award Show of the stones accepting an award for Bittersweet Symphony.

Incredible! Level of detail really appreciated :)

You should have been part of Richards legal team...

@HitchcockBrunette

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!!! Fascinating stuff..

Fascinating stuff, great work!

@FerryLuckyMan

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

A brilliant masterpiece of a song, without the sample. It enhances the song, it doesn’t make it. This song instantly takes me back to the late 90’s, right before my son was born. I was 26, lol. One of the best decades for music ever.

I enjoyed these violins for decades

Good that folks still discuss this song near a 1/4 century on. Hopefully they still speak of it for many years to come. It hooked me when VH1 (remember them?) premiered this 'new' obscure UK band that had some funny lookin skinny lad walkin down the street. UH stayed in my backpack thru college and years later when i tossed the bag i cleaned it out and there was that CD. To be 18 again... -U10

@megadave1197

2 жыл бұрын

Obscure band?? They’d written their true masterpiece two years prior. Sounds like you’d missed the bus probably while you were listening to oasis 🤣

@waanaabe-4795

Жыл бұрын

Hello! Hey, I did my part promoting this song when I was so young IN A STRIP CLUB of all places. Not that many people frequent these places for the music, but if you're insecure , naked, with you're emotions RAW, there is nothing better than to spend those minutes on stage with THIS song, quieting the place replacing sleaze with MOONLIGHT...

@Ultegra10SPD

Жыл бұрын

@@megadave1197 The US has no idea of this band until this song. But yes who knew when i got into them that there was an even richer back catalog to listen to. -U10

@megadave1197

Жыл бұрын

@@Ultegra10SPD Ha ok fair play mate! I think they did tour US around 93 🤔 but yea it’d been very low key. There is a great live show on KZread in Frankfurt I think 93/94 search for it 👌🏼 😎

@eboethrasher

Жыл бұрын

@@Ultegra10SPD ahem, those of us who were into shoegaze/ dreampop knew who VERVE were before they were forced to tack on "The", and loved the fuck out of the debut album/eps.

I didn't remember this song sounding so cool. I guess taste changes. This is so lush.

I had no idea an orchestral version of the last time existed. 😮 this song is one of the greatest of our generation.

Oh, mannn! This is such an amazing bit of music history. Didn't know this at all. Also, it was refreshing to listen to the individual samples. Then to finally hear that Richards came through was a sweet end to the saga, sort of. I have new appreciation for this song, which, with or without the sample(s), is still one of my all time favourites. Thanks a lot for sharing this video. You rock! Stay safe.

Thank you! It's edifying when one uses the web to demonstrate others' merit, how strong music is built, spending time with the work FOR ITS OWN SAKE (rather than go for a 15min attempt at fame). I'm glad I stumbled on this, which is funny, since while this song is depressing (but beautiful) for so many of us yet YOU did put a smile on my face this second. Good work bro!

So now the ode to Unfinished Sympathy makes total sense. You got a new sub for laying it bare :-)

As a musician, we tend to overthink a lot of things in our songs. This goes to show that many things that WE (musicians) think are totally dynamic changing and life or death; really don’t matter. I don’t think this song would have been any less without the sample.

Incredible. Thank you for making this video.

They took something someone worked hard on, and they worked even harder and made a masterpiece. I love this song and Ashcroft

Always the Verve. Its the lyrics and the melody with them. Bittersweet symphony

It always pains me that The Verve are most known for this track, yet their best stuff was their Verve E.P. Every track is insanely good.

@TheMorganRose

Жыл бұрын

And don't forget A Storm In Heaven! That and the EP where when they were called Verve before they had to change their name to The Verve. Listened to those more times than I can possibly count.

@Lotselance

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMorganRose A Storm in Heaven is so damn good, I've had seperate periods where I'd just get obsessed with one song from the album and play it over and over, for multiple of the songs on the album

@raddudeski2745

Жыл бұрын

Lucky Man is a fantastic song. It maybe just as emotional as Bitter Sweet Symphony if not more

@shootinputin6332

Жыл бұрын

Why would it pain you? dramatic much? This is a fantastic song. One of the best songs of the 90s. Doesn't mean we can't love their other tracks like drugs don't work, lucky man, etc.

@tehf00n

Жыл бұрын

@@shootinputin6332 it's a turn of phrase. Im from England. We use words in phrases sometimes.

Amazing after all these years I didn’t know this 👀❤️✨✨✨✨✨🌎🌹🌹🌹🌹love this thanks for the info

So much lyrical and musical truth in this song. A modern classic anthem.

The YT algorithm brought me here. This is cool. Thanks for breaking this down. Nice to see that even without the sample Richard and the boys really had something. I played this song to death when it first came out. Such an incredible song.

If we never heard it in the first place, we'd never miss it.. its a quality tune with or without.

This some is never underwhelming. To this day. Love hearing the more naked version. Still gorgeous. Thanks for doing this!

Brilliantly put together...very meticulous and clear

The verse melody is based on the string sample but they added a lot, the most memorable string line is theirs

@EdgarRoock

Жыл бұрын

To me. the memorable strings only mimic what's already there in the original strings and bells, only with sustain instead of staccato,

Yeap, it still sounds amazing! That just proves their talent!

This is just such an amazing recording!

This is our wedding first dance song. It had been on the radio maybe a week, so hardly anybody had heard it yet. I heard it and instantly knew it would be incredible. When it started playing, everybody stood there stunned at how beautiful it was. Then when the swing really kicks in, everybody got on the floor and started waltzing. It was insane!

@rossco78

Жыл бұрын

“Everybody stood there stunned”….doubtful. “It was insane”…also doubtful. Your imagination….insane.

@ManofFort.LaudiLaudi_777-ue3mc

4 ай бұрын

One of these days I'mma blast this joint at my wedding!!!!!!! It's my favorite song of all time!!!!

SUUUUPERB !! Oh my gawd you SO deserve so many more subscribers. I came on further to explore more of your uploads and am absolutely amazed.

@FerryLuckyMan

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for your support!

Thank you for your work, they made it better, evolve….🇧🇪🙏

It takes someone special to see what music needs!🍺😎🇬🇧

So the lead violin, which in my view is the song’s main hook, is all Verve?! Why on earth did they agree to turn over 100%? Should have let Allen Klein sue them, a jury would have ABSOLUTELY decided in The Verve’s favor. Agreed Mick and Keith should give them retro pay. Fat chance

@antsmith5328

Жыл бұрын

sorry, but all of the music behind the lead violin is a clear copy of the orchestral version of the last time. with or without the samples, apart from the violin, musically and rythmically it is the exact same, so basically ashcroft only wrote the lyrics.

@bobthebear1246

Жыл бұрын

It went before a judge who unfortunately ruled 100% against The Verve. But Mick and Keith signed over the rights to the song eventually and gave them something like $2.5 million.

@commentor93

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobthebear1246 Eventually = 25 years later, when the biggest hype is over and the remaining profits are hardly noticeable. The Rolling Stones milked the cow and left the carcass to The Verve, therefore I don't see it as something we should give them credit for.

@HeckTo

Жыл бұрын

That violin melody can be heard in the original version too. It’s there, around 1:40 mark.

Phenomenal video- not sure how much work this took on your part but it is really informative. I love it

@FerryLuckyMan

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Most helpful video ever.

the violin , which melt our heart

Great Work!

@FerryLuckyMan

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great explanation, thank you

Much less cluttered without the sample and therefore more pure and beautiful.

It sounds amazing...and god what an amazingly subtle guitarist Simon Tong is.

Awesome Work! Thank's for everything , Ferry 🙏 have a great Christmas Time 🕯❤

@FerryLuckyMan

3 жыл бұрын

You too! Thanks a lot for the support!

Really, who gives a fuck, the stones thing wasn't doing anything, sorta dead even, no one knew it. The Verve brought this old 5 sec tune back to life, a new life, on the TV on the radio, more than what it was doing just sitting there getting dusty. Share music people, it doesn't have to turn to greed. I love what The Verve did with this.

@rixxortiz8744

2 жыл бұрын

It doesnt matter if the theme wasnt being famous, if it belongs to them it belongs to them, if you steal somebody elses work it doesnt make it ok just because it was more popular with you, with that said, the verve did deserve a portion of the royalties

@nelsonc6173

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan White I think the Stones stole the song from an old R&B group and the Orchestral melody itself was not written by Keith or Jagger. So in reality they never really had original ownership of anything.

@ferruscx

Жыл бұрын

Not in your eras

@stevek6432

Жыл бұрын

greedy is so ugly, like the family of the man who wrote kookaburra lives in the old gum tree, who sued' men at work' for using it in the opening rift of 'land down under'. they won, causing one of the writers to kill himself

@rixxortiz8744

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-qv8ko well they should have give him credit, that was the correct way to proceed, i would call it hypocrecy, but in the stones favor they suposedly didnt want to take bitter sweet symphony's royalties, and they were not the ones aproaching the process, but their legal team acted "automatically"

The first portion with the bells makes me want to watch some Futurama. 😁

97 was a good year for music.

WELL DONE!

The first time i heard this song back when the verve released it, my initial reaction was ''how did Sonny & Cher make a new song ?'' It still sounds to me like a sonny & cher song

@actionkato2133

Жыл бұрын

🤨 no

@earthlingjohn

Жыл бұрын

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@marknewbold2583

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It's not quite good enough for Sonny and Cher

First-class musicology. Well done!

Really good work what you did here. It's professional and focused 👍

Epic riff. Glad they own it finally

It's a shame that the rolling stones took the royalties for this. To me this is the best song of the 90s so far. They would've never noticed if the verve hadn't asked for permission

@gerardodiazmiron5357

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Everybody would have noticed!! All the song is a sample basically.

@jj-if6it

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lol

Brilliant video. Thank you. Peace

Thank you I’ve always wondered about this!

Really interesting, thanks! Sounds like (if they’d known in advance it would become a huge hit) they could’ve saved a lot of money by re-recording the sample themselves ... it adds character but nothing irreplaceable

They didn't make any money off the song because of this sample.

@AutPen38

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Ashcroft didn't get songwriting royalties for it for years (which was unjust because he wrote all the lyrics), but the band still made money from performing it and for selling concert tickets and selling records and merch for years.

This is so cool! I love it!

This makes me appreciate the song even more.

Damn catchy tune.

Those samples are pretty well buried, under the drums

Nice work thank you

I just subbed.i have always loved this song.

Even with the actual sample removed, the entire basis for the rhythm, melody and harmony is derived from the sampled music. Play just the layered samples for anyone and they'll tell you it's the same song.

@spinblade6459

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lol yeah, this guy's making like he's revealing some kind of epiphany of the greed of rights holders to us or something. The underlying rhythm and structure of the song comes directly from the sample. The Verve wrote the underlying sections AFTER deciding they were going to make a song to this pre-existing piece of music they sampled. It's not like they wrote their own parts of Bitter Sweet Symphony and then went, "Whoa, doesn't this sound like that Stones song that they themselves sampled from someone else? Let's sample that in over! Isn't this serendipitous! We could get in trouble for this but gee it sounds so good, we've got to do it." No, they took the sample, liked the sound and built the scaffolding underneath. It's a great track; everyone knows that. But this video doesn't prove much of anything beyond what we already knew, which is The Verve built a great track around someone else's sample.

@Dhruv1223

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But they paid for the rights to use the sample, but apart from it being distinct, i don't see how the argument by Klein "they used more than what the license covered" is sound. Anyways Klein is a piece of trash not because he sued them, but because that's what the company was built as, they've gone after every artist, they first outright bought the rights to song, then hunted artists using the songs to sue them. They even sued George Harrison over a song he wrote while being managed by them! These assholes first defended Harrison against a lawsuit by bright tunes, outright bought bright tunes, then sued Harrison for the same song! Ive always said be poor if you must but don't hand over song rights to corporations or to anyone else. Only give a license to reproduce if you need to.

@damianlynch872

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It's right to say that it's not just the sample parts the band took. The arrangement, Tempo and structure all are based on the arrangement. The other main point in all this is the work of David Whittaker who did the orchestral arrangement rather than Oldham or the stones. But copyright doesn't cover arrangements as far as I know.

I like it without the sample, can hear more of McCabes guitar layering

I never really understood the magic happening in this song, but I knew it was there. Nice breakdown.

I had no idea about any of this, thanks!