For the best strength and endurance you need to mix your concrete first and add rebar too. Too big an area for dry pour. Please don’t do dry pour.

@Truongthikimcuong92

Ай бұрын

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Dry poor has its place but a floor is not one of them. Dry poor is great for things like post holes. Dry poor doesn’t always get the water distributed through out all the mix, leaving weak spots. You don’t want your floor to start popping out pieces of concrete or cracking apart. You definitely want a wet poor for a floor.

@user-do9ff8rg4y

Ай бұрын

I've seen dry pour work good for a small area but not a barn floor

@roywaite5793

Ай бұрын

@@user-do9ff8rg4y I’ve seen test on KZread comparing wet pour to dry pour. The guy made 2’ square forms with 2x4’s then set them in a gravel bed. He did several wet pours and several dry pours. First thing he noticed is he could not get a nice finish on the dry pours. When he wet it, it brought the gravel in the mix to the top. Couldn’t get a nice cream. Then two days later he removed the forms. The edges were great on the wet pour but a bit rough on the dry pour. He then flip the pads over and found the dry pour still had dry sections that fell off the pad. The wet poured pads were solid. He then lifted them up with his skid steer and dropped them about 6’. The wet pour pads stayed intact but the dry pour pads cracked into pieces.

Use the dry poor method if you don't care if your floor is strong enough to hold up to any level of abuse. Use the wet poor method if you want something that will last.

Ай бұрын

Exactly! Dry pour is a ridiculous concept - a cheap cement mixer does most of the work for wet pour and you will get a result which will last for your lifetimes.

Wet concrete mixture is always best!

I wouldn’t do dry pour, wet pour is time tested, wouldn’t want to see a waste of your time and money. Good luck in whatever way you choose. ❤️😊

Hey guys your doing great but just a suggestion as I was a builder for a long time is put hangers were you roof joists attach to the ledger. As you will have a large snow load on that roof and beef up the leader as well

Saw you start up that miter saw, and thought “How nice is it to work under cover?” So glad you put gutters on, so many barns just let the water drop in front. In regards to the concrete, I wouldn’t do the dry method. I have seen tests on the resulting product, and it crushes easily. Don’t forget the vapor barrier, it will keep moisture from coming up and making the workshop humid if it every gets wet under the concrete. Good job, looks good closed in.

I saw a YT channel that did a strength test between Dry & Wet poured concrete and the Dry pour didn't look so good. It gave me the idea that doing Dry Pour would be ok for walks and small slabs but not for larger pours that require Heavy traffic. Art in Calif.

@Truongthikimcuong92

Ай бұрын

Hello friend ❤️

@Jay.Kellett

Ай бұрын

I worked with guys doing concrete research. The talked about good entrained air ( less than 1 mm air bubbles that prevent freeze/thaw raking), and entrapped air (air bubbles over 1 mm that reduce compression strength, and cause freeze/thaw cracking.) Mixed concrete is worth the extra effort in my humble opinion. But then again I'm not doing the work...LOL

Love how you care for the critters, even the wild ones nesting in your barn.

@terryPratt-re4du

Ай бұрын

yes the animals are the best part of these videos

Wet pour with reinforcing for a floor, don't forget a gravel base with a waterproof membrane.I know its a lot more work, but it will last and stand up to tractors and saw mills, a dry pour wont. Last thing you want is digging up broken floor sections and redoing.👍

The barn is looking SWEET! You guys make all the hard work look fun.

Compact that soil in as best as you can before pouring. I recommend not doing the dry pour method. Mix it normally, you will have much more consistency and better results.

Be careful of dry pour. I would do a test in a small area and test for strenght.

Barn looks amazing! A good friend of mine is a concert guy and he says it's a hit or miss situation and location. He recommended me to not use dry methods that mixing is best for a pad. I have tried dry and it didn't turn out so well.

A dry concrete pour exposed to freeze-thaw cycles can face several significant issues due to insufficient water and incomplete hydration. Key problems include inadequate hydration, reduced strength and durability, and increased porosity and permeability. These factors lead to excessive cracking, water and urine seepage, and accelerated wear from plowing/cleaning waste.

I have my reservations about a dry pour. I like the way Jay and Jen did it, with a gravel base, then putting down half of the dry pour, then adding some wire, and then the rest of the dry pour. I think wetting the ground first before adding the dry, is part of the key, and the intermittent watering of it, I think they did it every hour for 6 hours. It won't look as good as a wet pour, but as long as you don't drive on it, it should be good. It will continue to absorb water and cure for a long time. But I am sure it'll be better than working on a dirt floor. Just remember to get out all of those twigs and roots! Come winter time, it'll be so nice to have a dry place out of the elements to work in. Too bad you did't have this area first, before doing your other builds. Thanks for sharing, always a pleasure to see you two working together.

It's looking great.It's always a pleasure watching you two work together

Love the way the barn build is turning out! About the concrete, dry pour always sounds good but never turns out lasting. Wet pour is usually the way to go.😉

Excellent addition to the lumber farm. Goat and dog approved, while the mountain has taken on a new character. Beautiful setting in the mountains with the goats, chickens and dogs as your companions.

First put down a gravel base before you pour concrete.

Everything is looking great, I love how you are so respectful of the wildlife / birds, great work.

@belveder69

27 күн бұрын

@Thisoffgridlife-w8d awesomeness, that's great thanks

I would not recommend dry pour, it doesn't appear to have compression strength. Driving on it with a load will break it up. Concrete setting (wet mix)is a chemical reaction, that takes place usually within 4 hours (hot faster, cold slower without salts). You could use wet mix down the center area where you may drive tractor and do the sides as dry pour, but wet would be better. Our rule was not to move poured concrete after 4 hours. Hard work that I don't do any more, but I will be pulling for you.

When you live in a climate that is really cloudy like the northwest of the United States or the south west of Canada in the mountain areas it rains a lot especially in the winter time what might help with the gloominess is to purchase yourself some Led UV lights and it will change your mood it gives you what the sun would give you if it was shining

Yall are great homesteaders ❤

What a transformation to the old shed ... Looks great..

Nothing Like "Airing your Dirty Laundry". You're a great couple, you work together Well! And she is not afraid of Working Hard!

You have made amazing progress on transforming what was a pretty rustic building into a very nice space. Greg, you are a lucky man to have a partner that can thrill you 24/7...yeah I sad it, Katie is a beautiful woman! You guys are an awesome team! Love that you are deferring to the Mama Robin.

Wow guys, that work shop/barn is looking amazing. You are both such great hardworking people. Looks like the dogs like the coolness of the shade in there 😂😂😂😂. I think you should do whatever feels good for you with regard to the concrete pour. Im sure you have done your research and will do what’s best for you. You have managed to build an amazing house after all, so I think we should but out. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Dry poor = weak concrete. What you gain in "ease" is more than offset in a weak concrete floor. It's not even close to the same. Even with rebar, it will be 75% weaker than a standard mixed poor. If you ever intend to drive a vehicle into your barn, or have to deal with freeze/thaw issues, you'll want to take the extra effort to mix your concrete correctly.

NO DRY POUR! DIRT CRETE can work for outdoor paths. Inside it traps junk and fluids and is too weak to use over time. You still need the same ratios as for concrete. fines, course aggregate and Portland cement and water. Stoney DIRT as a mix does wet set fine. The flaw in dry mix and sprinkling is getting things mixed well and the right moisture for a proper cure all the way through with compaction.

i’m not sure about doing dry pack slabs i do it for posts because of the moisture in the ground but still not sold about the slab. but whatever you decide good luck to you 😊

Grass is coming in nice

You should do a wood brick floor in your shop area. So much easier on the back and almost free

@ThisOffGridLife

Ай бұрын

I am googling that now

@deanhatch4179

Ай бұрын

Just be sure end grain is up

Dry pour is great for smallish slabs and the like, but personally, I wouldn't do the barn floor. To large of an expanse, and not likely to be watered correctly being under roof. Otherwise, the siding looks great! 😅 Love ya'll ❤️

Get a jumping jack and pack that ground solid. As was mentioned. A base of compacted rock is a must if you want the dry pour to work. 😊

I just found your channel recently and love it. Now I'm trying to go back to old videos so I can catch up. Katie, you do a wonderful job putting the videos together - keep up the good work.

Your barn addition is looking great. Love the siding colors. Conventional concrete pour has worked forever. I'm not so sure of a dry pour. I don't think there's much of a cost savings. And preparation is just as much. In a wet pour you could sprinkle the slate blue to mimic the wood slat color if you wanted to color the concrete. Your looking marvelous Katie. Hugs from Santa Barbara. 🤗😘🙏🌹🍷👏😎

All four doggies appearing in the same video! Love it. ❤

I did a dry pour 10 years ago in my garage,it has held up vehicles. We put in heavy duty metal half way then the rest with the dry pour. There are alot of you tube channels to watch but try watching Cajun Country Livin,they r best couple that has done it. Tho they did a regular pour when putting down shipping units. It will be exciting to see what yall do. Good luck! Great show!

The barn is looking awesome!!!

It is great news that you are going to let Robin mom do her thing with her babies

Hello Katie an Greg great job on your project 👍

Love that you use upcycled items.

katie- Greg i think it really coming together looking good im thinking the property assessor is thinking the same thing lol

I would only recommend dry pour method. Only if you're walking on it for a workshop. Not for driving a vehicle on it.

Saw a demonstration recently on You Tube comparing the dry pour method vs the regular method of pouring concrete. Using a 6 inch square and 4 inch deep form the demonstrator took one of each and put them in a vise to compare the strength of each. The difference was pretty dramatic. The dry method did not hold up to the pressure that the regular method did. After seeing that I would not recommend using the dry method if you plan on putting a lot of weight on it at any time. Thanks for your videos. I really enjoy watching.

@eastafrica1020

Ай бұрын

It's well known that dry pour is rubbish compared to conventional.

Love your work ethic!! And your respect for nature. “Moma robin”

Hi Katie and Greg. I can't get over the transformation of the barn project. It is looking absolutely great! It is such a nice space and will certainly serve your needs well. I have never used the dry pour method but am intrigued with it from all the vids I have seen about it. Many certainly swear by it. My only concern would be that actual surface itself and how it would hold up to abuse in the long run as it would not be finished in the traditional wet method of finishing. The rest of the installation is just common sense approach with a good base, wire mesh, tamped down, another layer and following the watering and curing time intervals and recommendations and it should be fine. Have a great week. Larry, Central Valley, Ca.

The barn is looking great you have some really nice looking chickens they are very beautiful shades of feathers 🪶 great vedio ❤God Bless

You guys do such awesome work!!

Really enjoyed the new music at the beginning of your vlog. You've come a long way with your new lot. Everything is taking shape. You guys are always👍👍👍 up.

You 2 work great together 👏👏🇿🇦

I love watching you two working together and progress in your dream. It inspires me . And every time I think that something I need to do is hard or too much to handle, I think of what you two have done since I first found your channel. And then think, if you can, I can. I can’t even count the times I was about to quit and give up, then I watch one of your posts. This week, last month, last year, and it makes me stop, think, and realise I can do this. Thank you 🙏

Dry pour is alot easier than mixing, but make sure you water it correctly--if not wet enough, it won't have the strength needed to last !!

The new barn looks lovely.

What a gorgeous building!! Great asset to your homestead!! ❤🪵🪵🪵

@Truongthikimcuong92

Ай бұрын

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Awesome work on the build it looks amazing

Love the blue cement board with the wood. nice job

The barn is looking great!

Nicely done Greg,& Katie. The animals seem to approve of all your efforts. Can’t wait to see y’all pour the concrete. Stay safe, healthy, happy, productive,& blessed.💯👍🏾😀🫶🏾💜✝️🙏🏾🇺🇸

Get your Quad bike in there and start going backwards and forwards in the shed and start compacting the fresh dirt down even more than what you have done with the Tamper before doing the concrete.

Barn is looking great.

Katie and Greg…Always great when you release a new vid…Today is no exception…Your new barn project is Lookin’ good…Thanks for sharing…IAG, eh!!! 🇨🇦

I don't think the day was" a loss" What I think is I see true homesteaders, who will change their plans in order to protect baby wild birds. Our world needs more people like you!

Awesome job it’ll be so nice to have someplace dry to work when it’s raining. Think twice about the dry pour. Just saying.

yes on the dry pour,@cajun country livin has tutorial on it, jim & lydia have mastered it.

I watch quite a few off grid life KZreadrs. You are one of my favorite channels! You are a wonderful couple who make great videos and are fun to watch. Your presentations are excellent! BTW, have you ever thought of burying a time capsule for future generations to discover? Thank you for sharing. ❤ from a fellow Canadian in Ottawa.

Looks good you guys. Hope mom Robin is successful with her babies. You could do 1 pen in dry pour at a time, giving you the room to level it out after it sets pull adjoining board and move to the next section.. It's a lot of bags of concrete just for the 3 sections across the back wall.. dry pour will be easier for you.

You two keep messing around and you're going to have a nice barn! Lol, good luck and God bless.

You two are so inspiring

like the two-tone siding

What a GREAT space you guys have created!! WOW!! Tons of potential!!!

Y’all should use the rain gutters to collect water for the animals. Just run it into a trough no work freewater.

@debo4706

Ай бұрын

Great idea ,but that would require scraping and cleaning the shed roof of all the mold and moss.

@Nemesis1776FAFO

Ай бұрын

@@debo4706 maybe they can just use the front new part then

The goat barn is looking so good, will be a great home for them x

Nice finish on the angled siding. I like how it looks. AWESOME!!

The dogs dig the new dug dirt in Mommy Robin house and hope you save the water off of the roof for watering.

The building is looking better than some people's home.

makeing great strides its really starting to come together. short cutting in concrete usually ends in a less than perfect cure, easier to adhere to the needed slope with a wet pour but more work in the prep, might want to consider the ground heaving over the long run, but you two will figure it all out.

GOOD JOB!

Amazing new life for that old sawmill!

You should be really proud at what you have achieved the whole homestead looks so good it bears no resemblance to when you started

Hello Kathie, Greg Another great achievement. For dry concrete it works very well but you need a half layer over the entire surface, tamper it well, put a mesh then finish Tamper well, level and then wet a little at a time for several days. Friendship Henry

Wow Greg and Katie the barn / worksop is looking Fabulous 👌 just wondering if your doing a water catchment ? ❤️🇨🇦

Barn is turning out really well great job enjoy your evening . Wow you two should be very proud of yourselves 💙💙👍🇦🇺👍👍🥰🇦🇺

Very nice barn. I love watching This Off-grid Life❤

Gonna have a HUGE, great looking barn! 😎👍

Well - I just could not see your vision. FANTASTIC rebuild - taking the old and making it new - and bigger - and better, Love it. 🤗

love the way your barn look,

Looking good!

Perfect job...I love when you begin something new... and finish it... the ground clean of things that were all over the place... love it...!

I know ya all runnin them gutters into IBC tanks right??😁😁👍👍Time for some water preservation storage after 4 years ya Rascals. All that rain n snow is easy to gather. 🙏🙏🙏🤙🤙Be blessed , diggin the Barn build.

A DIY soil sifter will do,not only it will clear the top soil from parts not wanted.. roots etc.. it can also sift compost piles.

It will definitely be a nice big building when completed 👏👏

The barn/ workshop is looking phenomenal guys. U guys doing a amazing job wow ✌️😎

Gr8 tunes.

Thanks for sharing guys, man it's looking really good 👍. Keep up the amazing work 💪.

Great job finishing the siding!! Ready for concrete! 🎉

if not dry pour concrete you could try crushed granite and use a compactor

I have seen the dry method on concrete, I am assuming that there is enough moisture in the ground and in the air to work, even though it is under the roof. I did see a post about automatic chicken doors is a plus to have to make your life easier on those real rainy days. It is looking good. Keep up the work!

Wonderful progress on the barn! don't know anything about dry pour, but reading comments gives some good advice. Happy to see those gutters go up!