New meaning to “You were playing chess, while your opponent was playing checkers”.

@chargeo1

4 ай бұрын

I can't even. this was amazing

@Ox1326

4 ай бұрын

The first time bro read a comment.

No way, the idea of "you and your opponent both play a random challange" has been realized. The prophecy came true.

@rezabela24434

4 ай бұрын

New Update : 1. New Variant: Chess Simp Variant

@oussama7132

4 ай бұрын

​@@rezabela24434the description of the variant is: " you can ignore or misinterpret half the challenge"

Forcing your opponent to gambit their king is a chad move indeed.

@joshuaspector8182

4 ай бұрын

Second only to the more Charles love of actually gambit your king 😂

@RuptimusPrime

4 ай бұрын

It doesn't really make sense though. You can't capture when checked if the capture doesn't remove the check, so the challenge should not have applied in that position. Must be a bug EDIT: Oh nevermind I read the rules and apparently capturing the king is how you win on this site, regardless of drawback

@tamatebako_yt

4 ай бұрын

Can someone explain to me why this is a thing? It's not like you can stay in check and do something else, you will lose on the very next turn. So what's the point of this rule change?

@RuptimusPrime

4 ай бұрын

@@tamatebako_yt The point is, apparently, to address positions where the opponent's drawback doesn't allow them to capture your king. I had this happen to me - the opponent had a drawback where his pieces can't move to the rim. So, I got "checkmated" with my king on the back rank, but... he couldn't capture my king. So I realized he's got some drawback that stops him from winning, and figured if I just don't move my king, he can't win. It worked and I ended up winning, even though my drawback was considered "harder" by the developers and I played worse - because he had no option to win. It's... kinda dumb, really.

@vikenemesh

4 ай бұрын

@@RuptimusPrime Your King was basically invincible, how does your opponent even get out of this one alive? Nevermind: I realized that jailing the king to a square on the rim and then taking every other material on the board could force the king to move off the rim, because its the only valid move left. Good luck figuring that one out and being in the position to perform it though.

"That blunders a king." Also, your confusion at 3:28 is what you get for not reading the guide at 0:40.

@illdie314

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it honestly puts the website in a bad light unfairly to have skipped over the rules. I assumed the devs just didn't understand chess rules or that there was a bug until I saw you point that out.

@mingyue_chen

4 ай бұрын

​@@illdie314But it's commonly adopted by a lot of chess variants such that capturing the king becomes the goal rather than checkmating, so it's actually not that surprising.

@aspuzling

4 ай бұрын

Hah, I love that not only is castling through check allowed, but a king can be captured en passent as a result.

@mauer1

4 ай бұрын

@@illdie314as if people ever were concerned about that most of the 5d chess videos are shitting and memeing about it.

@Nerd_Detective

4 ай бұрын

I need to see a king captured en passant.

3:29 if you notice they have their own notation for when you hang your king

@craigspaulding9711

4 ай бұрын

Using a minus for “nope, I’m ignoring the check, whatever” feels so sassy and I love it

@RainbowPlatypus42

4 ай бұрын

4:09 they also have notation for capturing the king, just a bit hard to see because of the victory pop up

@fhbirsidha

4 ай бұрын

@@RainbowPlatypus42 a fallen (90 degrees rotated) king

@ruanpingshan

4 ай бұрын

@@fhbirsidha Or is it a rotated middle finger?

@mingyue_chen

4 ай бұрын

That's neat. A minus sign is the opposite of a plus sign (which is a check).

That must be this "King's Gambit" everyone talks about.

I was wondering how check/checkmate could work the whole time. For example, if the opponent captured something with his king, then he can't really be in check no matter what, because you're not allowed to move to that square. At the same time, the opponent should have no way of knowing that. Their solution, to allow you to ignore apparent checks because you might not be in check, is definitely correct. That way if you think you're not really in check, then you can ignore it. It doesn't give away the opponent's challenge, and also doesn't infringe on your own choices. Good developers.

@mauer1

4 ай бұрын

its definitly the easiest. although the system definitly knows and could streamline checkmates anyway. we had a talk about that on the discord just today.

@petersmythe6462

4 ай бұрын

Me when my opponent seems unable to capture my King due to their challenge: *Charges King up the board to take the enemy King."

@whocares2277

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, there are some drawbacks that make it impossible to win. "You cannot capture a piece that has just moved" for example (kings count as pieces). If the opponent keeps moving the king then you can never win. Once you have "missed" some opportunities to take the opponent knows what's going on, they can just run their king to your king and capture it and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

@asdfqwerty14587

4 ай бұрын

@@whocares2277 To be fair, all of that is assuming that the opponent's own challenge isn't doing something to get in their way too.. which is very rarely the case (I mean, if the opponent weren't struggling with their own challenge then it's kind of obvious that the person who has a difficult challenge is going to lose to the person that isn't dealing with a challenge...).

@mauer1

4 ай бұрын

@@whocares2277 that's definitly one of the hardest drawbacks yeah

I guess leaving the ability to hang your king is a natural conclusion of challenges. If your opponent figured out your restriction and landed the king on an unavailable square, your checks and mates wouldn't mean anything.

@maksymisaiev1828

4 ай бұрын

that is the point of this variant - try to figure out other person downside.

@a_wild_Kirillian

4 ай бұрын

​@@maksymisaiev1828, the point of this variant is "don't lose before your opponent" =D

@skell6134

3 ай бұрын

​@@a_wild_KirillianThats how checkers work, ye :p

Takes "That blunders a king" to a WHOLE new level

Everyone can be Chess Simp now.

0:42 These rules are super interesting.

@sillybear25

4 ай бұрын

"Kings may be captured en passant" is a cool one that totally makes sense in a game where you're allowed to ignore apparent checks.

@alonsoACR

4 ай бұрын

​@@sillybear25 I have no clue how that would even work. Kings don't move two squares

@cubing7276

4 ай бұрын

​@@alonsoACRby castling

Drawback chess is great! I had one the other day where my challenge was that I couldn't move a piece backwards. So I ended up in a position where I had two rooks on the 7th rank and three blocked pawns and my opponent had one rook, three blocked pawns and a passed pawn (that was beyond both my rooks and my king). I ended up making a perpetual because it was impossible to create mating threats and I was scared about the passed pawn that I couldn't take. After the draw I saw his drawback ... he couldn't move anything to his 6th rank. I spent all that time worrying about a passed pawn that couldn't move any further.

@versuzzero5335

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, your game was fun to imagine. But this game that simp showed was bugged. Opponent sbouldn't be able to capture since they're in check. Simp already did that challenge too...

@alphax4785

4 ай бұрын

Checkmate / Stalemate are disabled in this mode and so you win by capturing the King.

@maksymisaiev1828

4 ай бұрын

@@versuzzero5335 the opponent did a blunder on a moment moving a bishop.

@laurentverweijen9195

4 ай бұрын

maybe the opponent should get an exception to the rules if their king is in check

@maksymisaiev1828

4 ай бұрын

@@laurentverweijen9195nope, goal of this variant is to capture. There is no checkmate or check.

what a cool format. i rewatched it the second time after revealing of the opponent's rules. nice. Also, if you read the rules the game ends not with a checkmate but with a capturing of the king. Also there are no stalemates. and there are some more interesting details.

This website needs a chat window.

I love the idea that the person you are playing also has a drawback and you must figure out what it could be. Although I do wonder whether the opponent got screwed because by normal chess rules he wasn't "able" to take the bishop.

@a.y.102

4 ай бұрын

I guess the basic rule is to take the king, because there may be drawbacks that prevent taking the king in certain cases. And so in those cases, would that really be checkmate? Therefore, assuming taking the king as default (just like the Fog of War variant) does make sense.

@versuzzero5335

4 ай бұрын

Apparently, they call this bugged concept, a "feature". There is no check/checkmate in this game, just capture the king. I think they got tired of coding it. It's a bugged game to begin with. At least as a human, simp can "modify" the rules to make it barely possible to win. This game is just impossible for the opponent.

@Modie

4 ай бұрын

@@versuzzero5335 No, it's because it makes the most amount of sense with the way the variant works. As someone already pointed out, there are drawbacks that wouldn't let you take the king, therefore, check isn't as problematic as it is normally in a game. Secondly, with the drawbacks being present, it means there are new outcomes for a game that you have to account for. Stalemate for example is farily easy in normal chess. It's stalemate if you don't have any legal moves. However, now there is an additional drawback that restricts your moves. A drawback that might result in you not being able to move anything. However, since the opponent doesn't know your drawback it would be really bad to punish them for creating such a situation. Lastly, if you really think they are too bad at coding, why do you think they would include their new ways of winning the game through castling? Castling is allowed even when in check, moving through check or moving into check. However, they actually coded it so that you can land on the square where the rook is after castling, where the king is after castling or the square the king was traveling through while castling and they ALL result in you "taking the king". But yeah, they are just too bad at coding.

@ButcherParry

4 ай бұрын

Finally, a game type that will reward the 100 rated players

@MegaKBang

4 ай бұрын

​@@versuzzero5335 Imagine nitpicking about stuff thats in an early alpha.

I actually think you were disatvantaged here. Sending your opponent on a capturing spree while you are not allowed to take back.

@Gugnar678

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, thought the same. Challenges really complement each other. His opponent played careful bcs of his challenge, if only he knew he got the advantage based on simp’s limitation

@shadourow-bathory6965

4 ай бұрын

Nah, as shown in the video, that capturing spree is black's undoing Since white cannot recapture, it clearly has to go aggressive and check, if at any of those moments, blacks can capture, it loses

@MrJed87

4 ай бұрын

Yeah he could have just instantly sent the Queen in to mow Simp down with no possible escape.

@asdfqwerty14587

4 ай бұрын

I think if both players know the other player's challenge then white probably wins. I think it would be easier for the opponent to win than for him, but I think played optimally white always wins in that matchup with either challenge. Of course, they don't know each other's challenge, which makes evaluating it much more difficult.

@shadourow-bathory6965

4 ай бұрын

My comment was deleted ?

Oh I see, it allows you to hang your king because it is possible that the rules of the opponent prevent them from capturing but also your rules may prevent you from defending

4:14: Now your opponent gets to say "I'm better than Chess Simp because I had a harder challenge"

Sacrificed the king

Huh, it took a long time for this email to reach you... I remember when Eric Rosen played this, I immediately joked about "the opponent is unpaid", implying that he accidentally took the role of this channel, but I was true more than I thought.

@mingyue_chen

4 ай бұрын

I saw your comment in that video too. They are my two favorite chess channels 😊

@mingyue_chen

4 ай бұрын

But Simp said the email reached him on Feb 13 which is actually earlier than Eric's video.

Please make more of these. This was really fun!

Honestly this video was so fun and the ending was so hilarious, I hope you make more videos on this!

What a brilliant idea! Chess can now be played in so many ways, you could play it for 500 years and never get bored!

Small hilarious fact is that Bishop is the piece being forced to make the capture for your opponent, with two squares of motion in both moves. Like y'know, pieces move two squares diagonally in Checkers too, when capturing.

the game ends on capturing the king like duck chess because some restrictions, like the one your opponent had, force you to not defend checks.

This is just the reverse of a typical stand fight Figuring out what drawbacks they have before they figure out ur drawback to win

This vixeo was great, very fun drawbacks lol

See this is why you read the rules, third point is "there is no checkmate, you win by capturing the opponent's king"

That's what you call blundering the king.

I was literally half way through writing a website that does this same thing lol

1:19 “i cannot ReCaptcha”

More of this please!

We need more videos on this!

This is so cool! would love to see more

3:54 Shoulda read the forking how-to page.

Oh no wonder they played so passively

Your opponent's challenge was difficult. However, in this case, your challenge is probably the worst possible to go up against it, since you not only can't recapture their forced capture spree, but can't move to any of those squares ever again. If your opponent had been forced to develop their queen, you would've lost a piece every turn.

@nazra1127

4 ай бұрын

Yes

That's a really weird definition of "if able".

I really like this. Please do more videos using this platform.

Yeah, so I think that "if able" should be given a bit more deference. You shouldn't be allowed to / have to make illegal moves.

@9nikolai

4 ай бұрын

Yeah this seems like a simple fault in the code order. Edit: Nevermind, it's deliberate.

@JimCullen

4 ай бұрын

The instruction text that Simp skipped over does explicitly say that you're _always_ allowed to move in to check in this game, it's not a specific detail of the drawback his opponent got here. It's a specific allowance because they want the drawbacks to be big drawbacks.

@A51838

4 ай бұрын

it's not an illegal move. the game ends with a king being captured in this variant, not with checkmate. no matter what the opponent's drawback was, he would have been able to hang his king

@enderyu

4 ай бұрын

It's better that way, since some restrictions don't allow the immediate capture of the king (e.g. you can't capture on light squares, king on a light square), so you can call the bluff

@versuzzero5335

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, this game was bugged.

my man didnt realise he had mate in 2 lmao

Big praise to the developers!! This must be a mainstay on this channel lol. Free marketing for the devs & free content for the channel. Kinda unbalanced tbh but still a win-win.

They forgot to add resignation or challenge failed, video ends. What the f -

Thats a very interesting idea for a website^^ But ignoring a check sounds like something that should not be allowed. He must capture if able, but he is not abke to capture, because he is in check...

@TlalocTemporal

4 ай бұрын

Adding that as an exception in the rule sounds good. Alternatively, leaving it as is makes a much harder rule, but can still be planned for. Maybe don't make that a global rule though, that might give away some rules or make it harder to figure them out by allowing you to break them.

@nucleargandhi3759

4 ай бұрын

The thing is there isn't actually check with this game mode specifically because it messes with some of the drawbacks on what a check would actually be. So in order to take those into account, and also not reveal what an opponents draw back is, they just made it to where it ends with king capture

Would love some more videos on this site

This.... This is beautiful! Well done to those guys

This was very good, you should do it once a week

@nazra1127

4 ай бұрын

Pin this!!!!~~

February 13th, 2024 I turned 24. Thanks for the late birthday gift, Simp!

@JJ_R

4 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday! 🎉

LOL, "take the king" is such a funny move.

Just tried it out, got "Professional Courtesy: You can't capture non-pawn pieces with pieces of the same type (e.g. your knights can't capture knights)" while my opponent had "Body Snatcher: If your opponent ever captures a non-pawn piece with an equivalent piece, e.g. captures a Knight with a Knight, you lose." Bruh.

Oh this is a HARD challenge, and I like how the site requires king to be captured to win. Afterall a challenge could be preventing you from taking the king, so it might be worth the gamble to hang the king like that. Or, maybe the challenge prevents you from defending, like the opponent. That's pretty good site design!

Ok that's pretty damn cool. I'd love to see more of that.

One of the drawbacks is you can’t capture their woman. If they clue in on that it’s impossible to win.

Rosen has played this some, and it is like ancient sanskrit chess, in that you have to capture the king to win. Which given some of the draw backs the site has is absolutly a requirement. It might be possible to implement something where if you're in check and your drawback stops you from moving to safety or blocking to end the game. However, it is much easier to program that the game ends when the king is captured though. I don't really blame them for implementing it how they did.

I think the opponent's drawback combined with drawback on your side could have made the challange actually harder for you... only if their king was safer.

I guess the reason you're allowed to hang a king is because you might be forced to by the rules (where usually simp would end the video). There's then always the chance that your opponent isn't allowed to capture because of their own rules.

Ohhhh NOW I get the thumbnail! That's hilarious!

I’ve been wanting to be able to play like Simp for years. Now we can

Actually, I think your opponent had the advantage. Normally, the reason being forced to capture is so challenging is because you can be forced to make some bad trades, but if you can't be recaptured, that means you won't have to make as many bad trades.

Excellent video, I laughed a lot

Good idea tho Love to see more

Interesting concept

Huh, thanks for the suggestion. I like wacky stuff more than I value learning. So I'll play more than a few matches there.

was that the scaramouche boss fight theme?

That blunders a queen to a queen recapture. Seriously, who blunders a Queen for a piece worth 3.5 lmao

What's terrifying in this is when you get a brilliant sacrifice checkmate in the middle of the board but can't take their King due to the rules. Like for example, one of the challenges makes you have to move a piece of greater or equal value to whatever your opponent moves. And the only thing equal to a King... Is a King.

When I played, my drawback was Fischer Chess, I had to get my non-pawn pieces to a different square on my home row, and I lost. (i had to do it before Turn 20)

You should do more of these, but actually give the website your rating info so the games are tough and you have a 50-50 chance to win

I know you've played alot of variants, but man seeing the woman capture a king vexed my mind 💀

Thats a really fun website! I tried a few games and they have pretty interesting challenges! You should do more videos with games on this site!

When Eric Rosen showed the website I was pretty sure it was jnspired by your channel. Cool stuff!

Just wanted to say that I've just tried out the website and it's really fun

Lmao that reaction

But if he's in check, then that bishop capture is illegal, so he's unable to capture it, so he shouldn't be forced to capture it.

Is there not a mode where both get the same challenge rather than random, hidden ones? Great dev work. But if the opposing pieces' move animation was added, it'd be a bit smoother

Neat! But I think I would like it more if checks and checkmates would work just like in normal chess.

"A woman is always more annoying than a bishop." -Chess Simp 2024

You should do I'm better than my viewers drawback chess and if your drawback is worse you can make your classic excuse.

0:41 Distance is measured usig only orthogonal steps? They should have gone with King moves (a1 is seven steps away from h8).

It's an interesting idea. -Simp Battle Advanced.-

Oh I see how this is very different, yeah the solution is to block all your move but leave only important squre to defend, yeah...that's really rough Also the howto state taht chllenge enforeced by the rule is more important taht nthe safety of your king

I literally played this a few days ago! It is so much fun!

I have just played my first game of drawback chess, it was fun My drawback was Warlord (Difficulty: Hard) My opponent's was Modest (Difficulty: Normal) And I won the game

well thats now a thing

Wow, so he didn't really see anything wrong with the trade, probably was happy to trade down pieces to have less forced captures. But you couldn't do any trades, so he inadvertently hang his king.

Wow, their drawback was even worse

@Aquilenne

4 ай бұрын

Though given its synergy with Simp's challenge, theirs might be better. While they do have to take when able, they can't be recaptured when they do so being hyper-aggressive kind of works.

The Chess move plinks are different :'''(

That seems like a bad implementation. You shouldn't be forced to capture when you're not allowed to capture.

So, Is this guy, and only this guy, equal to you??

OK… HAVE ANYONE NOTICED THAT CHESS SIMP IS VIETNAMESE FROM THIS VIDEO??? 0:05 to 0:22 in the email

By chess simp standards, that bishop was not 'able' to be captured because you can't do anything during a check unless it saves the king..

What? How the fuck they allowed him to hang his king? GET ME OUT

pls more on this website!

That one's fun to watch

The website should have mirror drawbacks mode so it's more balanced

What's the music in the beginning?

This is very cool

yo, that means that guy is equal to you.

People here making guesses like they can't pause the video and actually read the rules SMH

After Qg3+ Ke2, isn't Qf2 a checkmate?