I don’t think she knows the meaning of persecution and oppression…

@sistersusie8569

4 күн бұрын

Yes, she heard it all out of context 😢

@applemac100100

4 күн бұрын

Someday she will find out but it will be too late.

@unclejoker9975

4 күн бұрын

I was about to write the same thing.

@lionsonthepath

3 күн бұрын

@@applemac100100she’s still young. She’s already found she’s not a victim, so that’s a start. When the time is right, God will reveal Himself to her.

@drumcrazyozzy7410

3 күн бұрын

young people today have no clue what they are talking about...

I grew up in evangelical churches and no one ever taught me I was a victim. I’m a sinner saved by unmerited grace. The truth will set you free!

@_sowhat_

4 күн бұрын

Same here, Sister ❤🎉

@columbuscamposo9351

4 күн бұрын

You are not save yet.....your deeds will know if you are save...

@YAhweh_isa_warrior_504

3 күн бұрын

😊p

@ByDesign333

3 күн бұрын

​​@columbuscamposo9351 Obedience matters. Application in real life...Sermon on the mount applied. By our fruits we shall be known.

@JohnGramer06

3 күн бұрын

@@columbuscamposo9351 why did Christ die on the cross if salvation can be gained through the law?

The bible DOES teach that we as Christians will be persecuted. That doesnt make us victims, it makes us strong in our righteousness.

@scarletdragonflame4941

Күн бұрын

No it makes you WARPED and judgmental.

@amandafletcher8680

Күн бұрын

@scarletdragonflame4941 oh, the irony of commenting judgemental words onto a strangers comment. Do I know you, fellow human? Then how could you call me judgemental? Unless you're just making stereotypical claims about a whole group of people. I'm sure there's a term for your behavior.

They didn't say you were a victim, they said to count it all joy when you go through various trials because your faith is being tested.

@DelaneyAugustineWalk

4 күн бұрын

Big James is the house

@jenniferrhoades8956

2 күн бұрын

Welp, big F on that test.

@kladies3021

13 сағат бұрын

Well and going through trials with God means we aren't going through it alone. We can find joy in him even when things aren't going well!

I certainly did not hear that message in my evangelical church either.

That’s crazy. Christianity is victorious. Jesus is the victor. We have strength in his victory. Through all things. Praise and glory to God

All these victims, it’s absolutely nauseating the deception Satan has them under.

The only true Victim is He who is upon the cross.

@user-fc2zb9po8t

4 күн бұрын

Wow! You sound so profound and of course ridiculous.

@claraht.6999

3 күн бұрын

@SammytheStampede Psalms 110:1(KJV) Taken down from the cross ✝️ and our sin did not belong to him. Jesus Christ

Clearly she's never been persecuted a day in her life or even had to struggle through anything really. 😅 People who are actually persecuted don't have time to film themselves crying on tiktok.

Her intonation suggests that she's never been a victim but she knows how to dig in and state her case...whether right or wrong.

She said, and then I grew up🤦🏻‍♂️ she makes me think of an eagle who barely took flight and is learning and now he thinks just because he can fly he knows what he’s doing

I was apart of an evangelical church… this is completely opposite of what we were taught lol

@pillirodriguez7102

3 күн бұрын

Some of the churches I went to practiced “tough love”. That some of us have a victim mentality and God did not make us victims. And it helped because I realized I had gotten into that mentality a few times in my life.

She is full of it maybe she likes playing the victim. Grow up and stop whining.

This is why I appreciate my church that they teach the gospel

As a Westerner, I’ll grant that sometimes what we call “persecution” is merely inconvenience, and I’ll also grant that bad things, oppressive things, have been done in the name of Jesus, but the woman has still entirely missed the point.

Girl sounds like she listened to only half of what people taught her from the Bible and came to this as the conclusion. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@FemiNelson-sb1em

2 күн бұрын

Wow, have some compassion. She definitely sounds deceived , confused & very manipulated. Her no doubt bitterness behind that calm, sweet faced manner no doubt is a very confused & not very happy young lady. She's in for a rude awakening IF she does not heed the Holy Spirit's nudgings. Peace be with us all 🙏. "Isa"

The church should of taught you that you were the problem, that all people are the problem and that Jesus is good and we must all repent and turn to Jesus.

God saved me from this victim mentality thank You Lord ❤

It doesn’t sound like she read the Bible for herself.

If only church taught the gospel.

@Abcdefghijajajaja

4 күн бұрын

Some do

@lorettafridley7813

3 күн бұрын

Most do!

@dnzswithwombats

3 күн бұрын

@@lorettafridley7813 I listen to preaching in many churches often. It seems rare, very rare.

@lorettafridley7813

3 күн бұрын

@@dnzswithwombats Well, that’s very sad.

@dnzswithwombats

3 күн бұрын

@@lorettafridley7813 very.

From a victim to a victim still... and she still doesn't know it.

And yet...her goal here is to persecute christians. 🙄 Lame.

I did grow up hearing that we should be willing to be persecuted for our faith but not that we are currently being persecuted.

How vile.

"I used to believe whatever simplistic principles I was taught, without question. Then I grew up. Now I believe in *different* simplistic principles without question."

This is why reading the Word is so important.

She absolutely came to this conclusion retrospectively after going to college and being told the Christians are “oppressors” when actually they are oppressed in America.

Our world is upside down... I agree with you Allie, YAHOSHEA BLESS. יהושע ברכה אחות

Nope not true; for me it taught that in my persecution I have an advocacy with the father through the blood of Jesus Christ

Good word 🙏

I dont know that she all claimed what Allie is assuming, but she is twisting the word of God (which should have been her teacher not a certain church) and spitting on grace, and obviously has contempt for Christianity...so sad. How blessed are we to be chosen and that we do grow closer to God through our suffering and become more Christ-like. ❤🙏

Well said as usual Allie!! 🙌

She drank the kool aid, put an umbrella in and is charging 8 bucks for it!

I'm an evangelical Christian and I am free in Christ, not oppressed as the world is! I don't think she understands theology

In Christ, we are victorious!! VICTORS, not victims

Thank you allie ❤

His sheep know His voice. Prayers for her.

🤣🤣🤣 they told me I was a victim, turns out I'm a victim😂😂😅😅, ...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

She still needs to grow up 🤷‍♂️

True Christianity teaches that suffering is a reality for all human beings. But that if we follow the first and the greatest commandments then we will liberate a life of Truth and not be a victim.

She's got it a bit wrong. Jesus clearly told the apostles that they would be persecuted and they were. We are also told that we will experience persecution. If she experienced it or not, i don't know. If she wants to see Christian persecution in America, go stand outside an abortion clinic and pray.

Thank you Allie.

Louder for the ones in the back 👏🏽

Sounds like another rampant case of "Parents taught nothing. Church discipled. NOBODY evangelized the children." Folks, children need to get saved before we can disciple them!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

If you think it's a lie, just look at those Gods Not Dead movies 😬 I am a Christian and i don't think Christians are oppressors or any nonsense like that. But a lot of Protestants especially have a victim mentality, particularly the ones who are fixated on the idea that we are in the "end times." When someone says something rude about the faith for example, sometimes it's better to give them a little grace and realize they may be ignorant and a little lost, but that doesn't mean they hate Christians or are possessed. Although the Bible does tell us we will suffer for our faith, to be fearful and catastrophize every situation ultimately shows a lack of trust in God.

Actually, we hear it all the time from evangelicals. “There’s a war on Christmas! We are targets of the godless state! They hate you because you are Christian!” It’s sickening.

Yes she's been indoctrinated by the liberals. She's finding her way and there's so much confusion, too much information and that's by design, an idolatry all it's own. She has some valid points and may have also misunderstood biblical messages, for example offering up suffering and tribulation, use it to purify the soul, rather than festering in resentment. Or embracing a lowely position, even if you are a slave, do it to the best of your ability, humility with honor will be rewarded, as gratitude is the key to ascension- at the risk of sounding new angry, which I'm not. And Christian ARE chosen, we HAVE had a tougher time- it's boot camp to prepare us for battle and we SHOULD embrace suffering, it's a gift, it makes us better human beings, as long as we aren't looking at ourselves like victims. I felt victimized by my religion, devoting years of my time to it, giving money, defending it- until I couldn't make excuses for it's perversion and wickedness. I couldn't worship while surrounded by luxury and opulence while children went hungry. I mourned many things- my religion, my government, my system of education, the medical system- everything I've ever known to be true was a lie and there is an existential crisis that goes along with that. But that was short lived because facing deception means you're forced to do an honest assessment of your own life without ego or excuse - you can't lie to Jesus. Living in Truth is more than not lying. It's handling marital issues- is he faithful? Or facing facts about your children that you might not be ready for - are your teens doing drugs, having sex? Are your friends toxic? Does your job align with God's plan? Isn't it time to forgive your sister? I had to restructure my life and that's when I realized that I was oppressing myself by being who everyone wanted me to be not who God created me to be

As far as lies she was told, she was the biggest offender.

If I had to guess, I’d bet she grew up in a stern, legalistic home & church without any real warmth, support, & agency. There’s nothing more damaging to a child’s relationship with God than combining mistreatment &/or abuse with religion, which I unfortunately know firsthand. Being stuck in hating God & Christians is just as damaging & toxic. Here’s hoping she finds her way back to Jesus & healing soon.

@Matthew_85k

3 күн бұрын

Yeah thats a good point and not talked about enough imo.

Being a sinner in dire need of a Savior is not exactly victimhood. Somewhere along the line, she flew off the rails in her understanding.

It's good of you to sort this out which isn't really easy for average people to understand

You can't lose it if you never had it. Sad

She learned that she was a victim and the church an oppressor from entertainment and university.

Being persecuted for our faith is a privilege because our Savior went through the same thing, because if you belonged to the world it would love you.

Dang! Allie Beth turned those tables right around on this girl🔥

She missed the entire point of the messages we received from God about persecution 😔 I pray she reads the Bible, when I left the faith it was returning to the actual word that woke me up.

I think the big point is missed here. I grew up in church too. And it must have been the same church as this girl. I came to be a true believer later in life as an adult and finding a REAL BIBLICAL CHURCH.

Suffering is part of the Christian walk, but it's coming from doing good and not oppression.

Oppression grows our faith because the Christian response is turning the other cheek and practicing humility. I've learned not to seek insults by jumping into groups of atheists just to feel persecuted.

she's the biggest victim. no one was a bigger victim than her.

She misunderstood the message 🤦🏽‍♀️I’m pretty sure they were talking about being persecuted because of our faith in Jesus Christ.

She took the bait of the devil and she fell away from the Father. There’s a couple times where I’ve noticed the enemy trying to latch a thought like “you could just stop all this church stuff at any time” or “the Bible says a lot of weird stuff, do you really want to keep believing it?” And it can take some work to just shut that down and speak the Truth over myself. Maybe it’s burnout but don’t believe the enemies lies for a second, he really only seeks to kill, steal and destroy. Keep the Word of God close and protect your mind from the enemy’s tricks.

It's clear that the reason the Bible tells us to celebrate the persecution has everything to do with *why* we are persecuted - meaning, that we suffer for God's name. I'm not going to sit here like a little lamb if some dork tries to persecute me a reason that is not worth suffering for. We aren't punching bags. This is why thoughtful exposition is so important.

As a registered dietitian, non-meat eater I don’t see scriptural evidence for Jesus or Peter being vegan but eating plant based is certainly a valid option for improved health, less harm to animals and less harm to the environment. Those are reasons enough without trying to make Scripture say something it doesn’t.

She’s made it up to make a point. A smug liar.

@thedude9941

4 күн бұрын

No she's telling the truth. All Evangelicals do is cry about how persecuted they are, meanwhile they support persecution of others while being the most privileged people in America.

This is why parents need to read the bible every single day with their children and explain it as you read with them. By the time they are adults, they will be well versed in the bible and not easily manipulated.

If only merely being raised in the church saved a person, but it doesn't. She either never heard the true Gospel or never understood it, but she's sadly spreading around her lack of understanding on TikTok. 😕

Did she accidentally mix the gospel and the promise of Jesus that people will not like our faith with Marxism and identity politics?

"But then I grew up".....🤭🤔🤥🥴🙄

I would have to hear more from her. There is some truth in what she’s saying. Reformed Calvinists seek out,embrace, and even testify about their suffering. They wear it like a badge of honor. It somehow proves to them that they are Christians. As if Christs suffering in our place wasn’t/ isn’t enough. I’ll assume that’s what she’s saying until I hear more.

Never heard that mesaage in Christianity 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

A single bad pastor, can send hundreds down a false path. Wittingly or no.

If she had ever actually lived according to scripture she would find out real quick what oppression is. She would also find out that most of that oppression would come from professing Christians who may even go to church but are still kneck deep into the ways of the world with no desire to change.

Not sure where she heard that. Seems like this girl has turned into a liberal extremist.

now, thats a SATANIC twist ... sin gets purged by suffering

Growing up in a loving unchurched secular humanist family, I never learned Christian etiquette. My walking into a Church seeing all the religious protocals, nicely pressed clothes, and total stand-off-ishness made me feel a total outcast. School was no different. It was a tortureous social experience as I was made fun of every day and beat up every other day by fellow students most of whom were, unlike me, groomed in churches -- Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Baptist. At school their socializing said nothing except what I heard on media but was, for them, a constant social grooming, sexual ranking, clicks, and shaming. There was nothing Christian about them. It was all superficial. Despite all that, however, it was 1000x better than having school chums who hand out phentonyl, cocaine and teach crazy socialist narratives and falsified histories that kids face today.

I think she never understood the passages she is likely remembering (suffering, being patient in affliction, how to respond to those in opposition to a Christian, for example). Take that lack of good, theological teaching and pair it with "Progressive Christianity" (apostacy and heresy) and it makes for this. The Church needs to own where we dropped the ball and start teaching WELL the Word of God.

Don't go through someone else to have a relationship with The Lord. Seek The Lord with a pure and sincere heart, and He will reveal himself to you.

Repent and believe the Gospel!

What a sad little girl.

She must have been raided Amish

Don’t be so quick to judge, Ally. My in laws believe this exact thing. My mother in law subjected her eleven children to her abusive husband and church because she was taught that suffering and persecution is holy. The fact that my husband is a believer is a miracle itself. He’s gone through so much and it affects our marriage and our children. This does happen in churches. In fact it’s not uncommon. As a Bible believing Christian I have tried talking to women of that church but they cling to their victimhood with everything in them

Doesn’t sound like she missed the point of the gospel. Sounds like she never even heard the gospel

I think she is referencing g 2 Cor. 4:8,9 out of context and yes, those standing up for truth are persecuted and delight in the fellowship of His suffering for the joy set before them of also sharing in his glory.

This woman is 100% correct, all evangelicals do is cry about persecution while supporting persecution of others.

Not sure what she was listening to but the word of God says we win, that is not a victim attitude. However, she states she is now the "victim" of the church. My prayer she finds the truth of who God is. Religions can teach very wrong things about God, a relationship with Him we show you who He really is.

The options are 1) she's lying b) she's a horrible storyteller or 3) she's just an NPC who has absorbed other people stories and narratives and thinks they're her personal history. Being victimized by her church is likely is more romantic than she just left because she liked to indulge in whatever. In honesty, there's nothing on display her that would lead me to believe that this is an especially authentic story. She's smiling and telling a story for kudos absent any kind of details that would give it a ring of truth. I'm not going to assert to a certainty that she's lying, but I'm not sure what about this story she's peddling is meant to be revelatory or impress the audience. She needs to peel the onion more if she wants to come across as anything more than glibly self congratulatory. She just reminds me of the meme 'deep thoughts with the deep'.

Narrator: She did not, in fact, “grow up” yet.

Where did she get THAT??

She sounds soo scripted...rolling my eyes🙄

She has just twisted a few passages in order to do a hit piece on the church. SOP.

People generalize things too much. Bad experience with a couple men = all men are bad. Bad experience with religion = all religions are evil. People are too lazy and often times hurt to do the hard work. But that’s the only way you will move to truly improve your life. It’s just easier to be the victim for some people. Blame the world but never blame yourself and the limited mindset you carry in every interaction, expecting each thing to fit into the stereotype of what you’ve personally experienced.

She was probably hurt bad by the church. I mean "the church". I mean the actual people btw not the church building itself. A lot of people leave their faith because of "Christians" that hurt them bad. Best we can do is pray for her that she sees the hurt wasn't from God and that it came from sinful people.

she's talking about when Jesus says bless those who persecute you and be wary when ppl speak highly of you, and rejoice in your sufferings. YES those things are true. but no one is telling you to be overly sensitive or pretend that you're suffering if you aren't. we are blessed in this country to be able to worship freely. there is intense persecution around christianity in other parts of the world, just bc you aren't subject to it doesn't mean its not real, just sayin. Jesus literally came to set the captives free and bind up the broken hearted. jesus loves you girl!

She needs to work out her family issues with her family and not blame a church.

@thedude9941

4 күн бұрын

Oh you know she's telling the truth quit fooling yourself.

Did she live in a communist or Islamist country? Precisely what kind of persecution is she talking about?

let me guess, she went to church but didn't read her bible...

The Gospel teaches we are the villains since we opposed our good God, and God(Jesus) paid the price to save us. Also, to have Christianity be seen as a straight white man 's 'religion' is insulting. Christianity is the relationship between followers of Christ and the Lord. The Followers being all sorts of people who see Jesus as their Lord since died for the world, not' straight white men'.

Talk about taking things out of context and hearing what you want to hear! Whoa!!! What a messed up and twisted message this poor young woman is accusing the Church of! That's NOT IN THE BOOK!

She believes the lie.