UPDATE: They have announced a close playtest that I will be in starting April 18th and lasting for one week. There is no NDA so I will be covering this game a lot! Hopefully full early access release soon after!

@FreerunningGamer

2 ай бұрын

Lookin forward to it!

@rkhale02

2 ай бұрын

Jesse you should check out Incursion Red River in the meantime.

@freerider3434

2 ай бұрын

What a fantastically well done video Jesse. I assume you don't have an editor yet and you did it all yourself. Really super well done video and script!!

@savagestano

2 ай бұрын

How do we get in the beta?!@?!

@cptcrysis2378

2 ай бұрын

Wow, yet another dev team that will ONLY let streamers/content crestors play their game and test. What a joke. If its good enough for them to test, then its good enough for the rest of us. All these devs will let streamers play and record gameplay that us normies just get to watch and this goes on for months and years. Absolutely ridiculous. There are PLENTT if people who are capable of testing games who are not streamers. They need to GIVE OTHERS ACCESS. Like..are these games being built for everyone to have fun? Or are they being made with the soul purpose of getting streamers to stream it and fuck the rest of us? Not cool

"You will live inside the game world permanently" idk man i'll need to ask my wife about this one

@LooniJoose

2 ай бұрын

Dude, she's probably a noob at shooters. It's not like she can come in and kick your a##.

@shadrachlane5555

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 honestly bro sounds creepy

@joelmajors1035

2 ай бұрын

If u die in the game u die in real life....

@thesinaclwon

2 ай бұрын

🤣 you gotta ask for permission……….my wife would gladly get rid of me 😱.

@thesinaclwon

2 ай бұрын

@eatmeimacookie8372 I knew it!!! You trying to bang to get back at her?

One thing that I like about Tarkov is that when you kill someone.. they're not coming right back for you or setting up an ambush down the road after coming back. The idea of 'permadeth' on the instance you're in make every kill that much more important / satisfying.

@I_D_W_I_W_D_W_I

2 ай бұрын

Yeah they got a good 10 minutes before they've got a kit and can get back into a game... Hideout simulator

@ghostprincess.

2 ай бұрын

@@I_D_W_I_W_D_W_I stop dying lol

@Larenskii

2 ай бұрын

When you get a good raid going you’re not seeing your hideout for another thirty minutes.

@Chrylx

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. I have the opposite feeling of what this video is stating; getting to come back to a fight is not a good thing. Makes it more traditional FPS-like than extraction shooter.

@zacharyk7006

2 ай бұрын

it's also entirely possible that greyzone will use less unique gear, ie you might buy a crate of 20 m4 rifles so losing one is no big deal. Thus the concept of going back for your stuff might not even be worth it most of the time. There's so many ways to skin that cat. Also you can go back via scavving, although it's far less common to get the same raid now that you can't pick one specific server.

Me reads title: "This Game is Finally Doing What No One Else Will" Also me after the first 10 seconds of the video: "What forcing me to upgrade my Graphics card?"

@Joshua-gs4ss

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@guido69x

2 ай бұрын

I run the game on a RTX 4060 and you dont imagine the LAG and Aim drift I have,and it doesnt matter reducing resolution and graphics,theres almost no difference at all!Game crash´s,server disconnects making your last hour looting a total waste of time and patience,making you loose all your stuff!!!!!

honestly what you described literally sounds like they made rust in tarkov, all those players on a big map, being able to spawn at your base over and over to run into combat

@JJ_Trooper

2 ай бұрын

It is realy different tho. There are 3 pmc factions, with each there own hub somewhere on or off the map. (not sure if it's a location you can reach through the large open map). From there you'll be able to infill the map and do a mission or hunt pmc's. But my understanding was that the pvp really isn't the focus, it's meant to have a variaty of though AI which supposed to be the real enemies. They compared it to the real world where different pmc factions rarely pick a fight with one another. Cause mostly they just operate in the same area with different missions, or the same mission where they accept the help from one another.

@poptart4098

2 ай бұрын

​@JJ_Trooper thank you, I'm so fucking tired of the tarkov comparisons, I think it's important to talk about it. But I completely agree, they are WAYYYY different games. The foundation of extraction shooter is the only thing that's the same.

@dannylojkovic5205

2 ай бұрын

@@poptart4098they also seem similar because of the modern tactical setting. I hope Gray Zone has a better net code lol

@marcodoesitbetter8675

2 ай бұрын

Man Rust ??? How and where its even similar to compare? Rust is totally different game lol

@longpal

2 ай бұрын

@@marcodoesitbetter8675 I can see the comparison being drawn - if you are so inclined and can find a base where people re-spawn, you could camp it and continually take people out as they leave. That's about as far as that goes since you're not building your base or anything, but that concept of people being toxic in games for their own enjoyment - if it's possible to do in Grey Zone, there will be people doing it.

I feel like the biggest hurdle for this game will be the gunplay. It doesnt appear very satisfying. Nor does it seem like the movement will be fluid. As much as we hate tarkov combat, when there is absolutely zero things going wrong the game just FEELS smooth.

@jawahanifart8220

2 ай бұрын

yeah idk feels like the game is overhyped and wont stay around for long. between gunplay and ai it just seems bland and too easy also the animations and pov just kinda look bad

@zeeksy6276

2 ай бұрын

@@jawahanifart8220the pov looks wayyyy better than tarkov, guns in tarkov take up half your screen it's disgusting. Movement in tarkov feels clunky bleh it's so gross. The devs said they are completely overhauling the guns and the gun sounds and it sounds just as good as tarkov now.

@JustinPardue

2 ай бұрын

Considering YT compression and all, but from what I saw the weapon and movement animations look pretty good. They seem to be grounded and slower than what you might be used to even in Tarky. We will have to see in game in full resolution and sound. Hell Tarky looks like dog in a compressed YT vid.

@LautaroQ2812

2 ай бұрын

This game is in very (pre-alpha) early access. Tarkov has been in "alpha/beta" for the past 8 years. There's literally 0 point of comparison. Let's talk about in another 8 years and see where this game is at that time.

@DragonNectar

2 ай бұрын

Tarkov does not feel smooth. The movement is clunky af.

What are your thoughts on Gray Zone? Are you excited, or is this not something that interests you?

@TabiTheCat

2 ай бұрын

Its doing what everyone else does, getting overhyped before actual release footage. No one else has ever done that :))))))

@OLDirty_Sponge69

2 ай бұрын

I’m ready to see your opinion Jesse 😊

@RazorBrain1

2 ай бұрын

I'll hold my opinion till yall get your hands on it and can see it for what it is. I really hope it's good. We all love tarkov but it would be nice to have something similar when it's mid wipe.

@kharics2122

2 ай бұрын

Im interested to see where it will go, but IMO People definitly overhype the Game when they say "It will Kill Tarkov". Nothing short of BSG metaphorical deleting the Game will achieve that at this Point. And also a fact is that as you said, Gray Zone WILL be different than Tarkov and not cater to everyone who plays/likes Tarkov.

@bountyhunter_5150

2 ай бұрын

Can't wait for this game! Goodbye Tarkov for me

I am so excited for GZW I've been following Riloe's coverage on it religiously. So ready to see the scale and beauty of the game! The other part about this game excites me so much is that Madfinger said that PVP isnt the focus, while you can do pvp its not what the game is based around. There will be no missions to try and kill each other which is something i am excited for too.

@SwitchBladeEVO

2 ай бұрын

I really like the concept of PvP being a secondary focus and not at the forefront of the gameplay, because it just means like how Jesse compared it to DayZ, those rare encounters with PMC's will be crazy and exciting. The idea you could be on for hours just grinding away at missions stashing loot to suddenly encounter another full PMC squad intersecting your mission and have a wild firefight in the middle of the jungle or some huge village sounds awesome. Or, you can spot them, decide it's not worth the risk, and wait for them to leave the area before attempting your mission. You have choices, and there is more space for people to go so it's unlikely they'll stick around a long time. Tarkov forces everyone to the same points of interest every single raid because everyone has all the same missions just at different stages of the game, so it feels like you really don't have a choice on the PvP side of things if you want to progress, and you really don't considering all the PvP missions.

@Joshua-gs4ss

2 ай бұрын

The toxicity seems to drop when devs do this. Too much competition turns people into animals🤣🤣

I would like to add Hunt Showdown to the mix. No, it is not as deep as the other games mentioned but the way it handles the players moving around the map is really nice, feels really "natural" because it creates main points of interest in the map that eventually converge into a hot spot that keeps the match in motion and the best part is that there is still an option for the player to interact in the whole match or just win 1-2 fights and leave to hunt another day with better weapons or better skills that improve your gameplay. Great video, great content as always.

Most excited too see a more involved enemy AI. From what I've read off there website and recent footage, there is finally going too be another game too rival that of what BSG has accomplished and it's going to be interesting too watch and experience both of these game-play styles as they further evolve. What's more thought provoking is the idea being able too return too a firefight you just died in and/or try too hunt an enemy player down who just took all of your gear and hard work. Am I excited? HELL YES BROTHER!

great review bro loved how u summed everything up and hit all the nails on the head with the issue it was perfect for what they need to change and look at

Very detailed video! Super excited to check this game out!

jesse, u nailed this video, i watched quite a few videos about grey zone, but none off them painted what the actual gameloop will feel like

One thing worth noting: Loot is on a dark souls system from what I've seen. Unless your body gets looted and your gear ends up on the ground or something, you can only have your most recent body on the ground to loot. This means you can't just meat grinder at the combat over and over, because you'll be losing gear. Especially solo, this can be a real challenge if you die in a particularly enemy-dense area.

Excited for this new up and coming game. Glad to see you got into that closed test.

8:24 great explanation, and something in the middle of those two games is exactly what I'm looking for.

I'm ready to rat for 15 hours in the same spot on extract for the loot :)

@keenanscruton3973

2 ай бұрын

Good luck on the size of the map lmao 😂😂😂😂 just go loot bro

@TheWaterMagister

2 ай бұрын

@@keenanscruton3973 I'll see you at extract :D

@atlas2296

2 ай бұрын

There are no static extracts and most exit locations are going to be in open areas because they are helicopters

@TheWaterMagister

2 ай бұрын

@@atlas2296 Ill be sniping :)

@kyser2097

2 ай бұрын

You'll be killed by me if you camp extract in my team 😊

The number of hype videos for this game is alarming. When more gameplay videos drop just take note of how many things are "place holders"

Tarkov took 8 years or something to reach where it is now. GZW hasnt even been released yet.

@user-ye2vn4dh8h

2 ай бұрын

Unfair comparison by all means

@eloverlord96

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, but it took 8 years to Tarkov cause the devs suck and the engine that they used for a game like Tarkov sucks

@fvhrenheit4813

2 ай бұрын

this game right now is just a demo. Tarkov has way more features, not to mention that bsg was a literally inventing new genre.

@Kruscle

2 ай бұрын

Tarkov walked so GZW could run. Get real.

@thescavwithnothingtolose1224

2 ай бұрын

@@fvhrenheit4813 that is factually incorrect

So excited for this. It's almost like its the game you and V been describing on the pogcast fir the last 3 yrs

Out of all extraction shooters after tarkov. Hunt showdown was the only other one that really really stood on its own legs and gave u those heart thumping fights.

Thanks Jesse, thanks for giving such a detailed informativ video, about why EFT and GZW is not a like, and not just the standard;" If you think they are alike, you are wrong". I was first dissapointed in knowing that there would be little to no PVP, but you give an interresting point of "hot zones" being able to "fix" that "issue", and that it is the player engaging in the choice, and not the game forcing you too (like EFT can in some ways). You definatly gained yourself a new follower from me :-) Have a good day! k

One of the best things about DayZ was the story you would tell. A 5 hour session could bring you to multiple cities, make you feel accomplished with your loot, fight zombies and just straight up survive. For that 5 hour experience you might never run into another player. If you do, you might not even have to try to kill them... I know I have talked to somebody for 30 minutes in DayZ just to shoot them in the back when they trusted me to get their back pack. I hope Gray Zone will have VOIP... Because that will be just the cherry on top to having such a large scale map where running into another player could be hours apart.

there is a quality to jesse's content that i feel goes underappreciated. I know those who like him like him, but its just so classy man.

Good stuff, you're an excellent communicator

Really looking forward to see what the closed test has in store, the info we have now reminds me of the fun of PvE from a game like Ghost Recon Wildlands.

you nailed the concepts! +1

DayZ already had that function where you had to load ammo into your magazines...

The gameplay kind of reminds me of Ground Branch but with better textures. Definitely excited for it to release!

No matter how good or bad gray zone becomes we should always respect the og of the genre. Tarkov has its problems but it created and paved the way of this genre. Even triple A companies fail to replicate what tarkov is because it requires a unique playstyle

I wasn't really interested in trying it, but now I am. Thanks.

Totally agree, and one thing you haven't mentioned is the fact that a lot of us are sick of the PVP cheating, so a more PVE based games is just what we wanted. I have to say though "Realism" started with ARMA.

Very excited for this!

I am so excited about this!

I am a hardcore Tarkov fan. I have been following this game but I still had been unsure of if I would enjoy it. But this video finally gave me that itch to try it. I just don’t have much time for gaming so my game time is pretty much dedicated to Tarkov.

I'm dying haha! Love your videos, but this one might take the (carrot) cake. Excellent!

Rick Lasagne. Change my mind.

I hope you can see members of your faction on the map and they can radio you for help. It'd be dope for someone to tell you they got 3 dudes pinned down, approach from the north and you can get line of sight

This looks like it is right up my alley. Will probably need to upgrade my GPU at some point though.

I'm hopeful for this game to work out looks like something I would love as well

gray zone will take extraction shooters to a different level and play style and it will evolve throught time, is not competion, is another game folks. great vid jesse.

can't wait for this game !!

Bro, MadFinger really came back with a BOOM! 🔥🔥

I am super excited for this game and have high hopes would love to run some raids with you in it sometime Jesse. :D

Very excited for this game

So just imagine it like this it’s kinda like if every tark raid when u die u always got back in on ur scav that feeling is always insane

Bought Tarkov a month ago and I haven't left the menu yet. I look at the controls, inventory, etc. and I get so overwhelmed. I really intend to finally play today.

@ElectronicRequiem

2 ай бұрын

Try spt-aki, can be a training ground for beginners

@krumz90

2 ай бұрын

What @ElectronicRequiem said. The Singleplayer Tarkov/SPT mod is a fantastic way to learn the game, and preferable for a lot of people. Mods for Singleplayer Tarkov can also help you find out where to extract, what kind of ammo is better, etcetera. Without having to look up maps, charts and all that sort of boring shit. Highly recommended.

@UberWarrir01

2 ай бұрын

Or you can do the practice mode on the game no mod needed

@MeoithTheSecond

2 ай бұрын

Like what every one else has said use the SPT mod its extremly well worth it for learning the maps and the game mechanics and everything else + ignoring the bots faults its very good.

I'm pretty hyped for Grey Zone. Karma and Operator Drewski had some great vids on it.

So, Years ago "the division" had a mode called "Dark Zone" which was essentially an escape from tarkov style extraction mode. I think that is what sorta built the interest for this kind of mode.

@chugalingus4642

2 ай бұрын

One of my favorite gaming experiences of all time.

@mattgarey-hendricks1787

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think so tbh, dark zone didn’t have like anything related to tarkov lol. Tarkov is more dayz combined with a battle rouale in the sense rhat people spawn in the map and its elemination with multiple teams. The only thing the division had the same was you could bring gear into the dark zone… but thats it lol

@Daghyr

2 ай бұрын

i was just thinking the same thing

@thewicked1862

2 ай бұрын

@@mattgarey-hendricks1787 the dudes absolutely right and you clearly just wanna be that’s exactly what the dark zone was you go in get great loot and make it out while fighting for your life, I don’t think you realize but the division one came out before Tarkov was even in beta so you should probably do some research

@alcarajoasd

2 ай бұрын

Tarkov is what I expected the division to be. The bulletsponge AI and players made it so boring to me.

Nice fresh review on game mode and playstyle! Could Grey Zone be the next Ghost Recon Original 2.0 (PvE + PvP mission style extraction shooter)?

YES Excited for something new. Hopefully they are planning ahead to deal with the Cheat, Anti-Cheat scenario. Cheats just take the joy out of anything for many players.

DayZ started all of this and every game to follow would be an evolution to it imo😊

I'm pretty excited about the game! It seems to be more casual-friendly than Tarkov, which is what I'm looking for!

Being able to occasionally make it to an extraction and avoid losing everything to cheaters is the one saving grace Tarkov has and this game is like 'nope, we're taking the extraction out of extraction shooters, lol'...

Hunt Showdown, while not an entirely Extraction shooter, also has a great spin on the general premise. Excited to try Gray Zone though

Great video jesse

This game will seriously live or die on its ability to prevent hacking.

Great breakdown

Seeing 'The Cycle' Gameplay hit me in the feels, what a game 😥

Good find this looks sweet

The constant threat of pvp is exactly like in the cycle. I'm gonna love it!

@jawahanifart8220

2 ай бұрын

idk i feel like its gonna fall under the same curse of the cycle and end up dying

@kerbalsomething2673

2 ай бұрын

@@jawahanifart8220 Well if they have good anticheat from the beginning they should be fine

I can’t wait!

The gunplay reminds me of ground branch....looks really fun

First extraction shooter was The Division (Dark Zone) Tarkov just completed the idea.

Finally somebody is making a game mode like arma wasteland. Deadside plays like arma wasteland too. Pretty fun to play with friends.

0:49 the division created the extraction shooter genre. The darkzone is literally an extraction game mode

Isn’t this exactly what Tarkov said it would do. For years now I’ve been told that one day Tarkov will be 1 huge persistent map with UN checkpoints separating higher level areas

Sounds like a game I can get into. The thing about EFT is the gear fear and people who are so much better at the game stuff like that. But if all goes well you better believe I will get this game.

Worth mentioning that all the things you say dayz doesn’t have, they have on modded servers. That aside I’ve been looking forward to this game for a while, hopefully it delivers

Lets go! I stopped playing EFT because I don't have the time to enjoy it so I'm hoping more casual players will have a better time with this

All I want is real sniping. Long range, breath holding, 1000+m snipes possible with a perfectly landed head shot with the right build, BUT then I want every one in the area to know where Im at generally and I need to move and swap to my secondary and fight! I wanna smoke the point of an enemy team from range, move 100m, and use him as bait to pop the rest of the team.

I'm really interested to see how the griefing will happen, the ability to rush back to your loot and fight for it again is gonna make a lot of interesting dynamics.

Can’t wait for this

Nice video Jesse

Hunt showdown was my other extraction shooter that I played alongside Tarkov. When they added solo self rez I dropped it, the loss is the main thing in these games that keeps me coming.

It's more like a permanent arma mod doing ops and quests. Instead of some weird role play op.

I really hope this game does well it looks incredible. DEADSIDE uses the same respawn in same map on death and able to run back and get your gear however i must say i am not a big fan of it in this particular game but i will be trying out grayzone for sure

Most important there will be a PvE only mode/servers...a lot of players like me just hate PvP, but love to play SP Tarkov or would engage in an "Adam Offline" version of Eve Online. Because the foundation of these games is exactly what we want, with PvP it just becomes the wrong kind of game. And ofc you will be able to access a lot more players. SP Tarkov is a great example of how modular and customizable games can be, seems like GZW took some notes and didn´t condemn PvE only, but embraced it as an opportunity.

Was wondering if it is designed to be played both solo and as a group or just focused to be experiences as a squad only?

Seems like a tarkov with gulag situation, i like the quick in and out of tarkov to fight the people who play for pvp and leave

I like that raids in tarkov are separated from the stash and menus. If it's like Rust or DayZ where all your progress can be shut down at any time from offline raids or like you die but a skilled player will gear back up and cut you off and get to you before you can leave. I don't like that and enjoy that aspect of tarkov over Rust and DayZ.

lmfao at the dark and darker clip. that game is cursed hahahahha

I appreciate how you mention everyone needs a different balance of PvE versus PvP interaction, while playing a PvEvP. So far, Tarkov came closest to do this for me. But it's like you said; even though I love PvP, avoiding PvP when you need to can often be so hard, and there is nothing worse than the abuse by players of this fact. I do hope they don't make this game too expensive, because I feel it will be quite the experiment..

So ready for early access

I don't think MWII's DMZ mode gets enough recognition and love.

Let’s see how fast the cheats develop in this game 🥺 I’m rooting for them though

One thing I would be interested to find out is, if when not on the game would you still run the risk of losing gear and equipment? It sounds like the fobs and bases can be attacked, gained and lost (unless I misinterpreted that), if that's the case I don't think I like the idea of me losing all my stuff when I am asleep. at work or just not able to play in general.

I'm so excited

this is turning out to be a baby between Tarkov, GR: Breakpoint and The division imo, couldn't be more excited

will you be able to spawn in as a scav or raider?

[QUESTION] Ive played a lot of tarkov but no dayz, does dayz (or similar games) develop that same annoying predictability of knowing exactly where people will be and go? I imagine it would be to a lesser degree but that it would still show up in hot spot areas with good loot where people will know 'rat spots' and camp.

Gray Zone is starting to sound like exactly what I've been wanting. I really enjoyed the Cycle, the persistent maps and lack of match timers did a lot for me and I'm definitely looking for that middle ground in PvE vs PvP. Looking forward to your coverage of it.

I understand the appeal of the continuous server for some but what i like about tarkov is that the death is so final, you die, its over. Knowing i can kill someone or die and they can just come back takes away that feeling personally.

@JesseKazam

2 ай бұрын

Very understandable. I definitely feel like that is a dividing line where some people love it and some people don't. It's one of the biggest reasons I hope that this and Tarkov both do well and continue to thrive. More cool experiences is more better lol

@kurtbarrett8567

2 ай бұрын

​@@JesseKazamMore betterer*

@Pandoratomorrow11

2 ай бұрын

agree, this is so stupid if you die from an AI and you can come back looting again what u lost like dayz. this delete all the ''survival'' feeling.

@zeeksy6276

2 ай бұрын

@@Pandoratomorrow11the chances of this happening on such a large map are slim to none. The devs have stated it would take you 10-15 min on average to go back to most locations to get your stuff. By then if you haven't looted and moved away from that area, then you deserve to lose your stuff.

You do have to mention Deadside though. Its not extraction but looting a base or event whilst fighting players going for the same event and then have to take the loot back to the safe zone or you own base is pretty much DayZ but with real AI and players. Was basically seen as a mix between DayZ and Tarkov at the time of launch. The flow state was permanent. After you entered you never see the menu again

Please make sound good, please make sound good, please make sound good :)

To be honest, I have been hearing about Tarkov for a long time. But what really got me in extraction shooters was DMZ, it was very crude in the beginning but got pretty good, way more casual. But when Activision discovered that the DMZ would not give them money (people hate over p2w features), they throw it in the garbage. Then I decided to give Tarkov a go. I really enjoyed it, but Tarkov is not really accessible, and way too much not casual friendly. It would be nice to have something in the middle ground, same hardcore felling, but way more easy on getting people onboard to shoot with friends, I have high hopes for something like that.

I love the zombie aspect of DayZ, but I love the feel and gameplay of Tarkov. I wished there was a Zombie Extraction game and you have to level up your community, instead of a "hideout". I would have AI zombies, and AI Survivors who could be friendly or not depending on variables. Each AI survivor would have a different ability and depending on that ability you could have them escorted back to your community and theyll be apart of it. Like say.. you found an AI Survivor who is a doctor. You bring them back to your community and you would have Lvl.1 medstation and from there you would need supplies to level it up. When players die, they will be turned into a zombie (TWD rules) and carry their loot on them. Zombies would follow sounds and could herd together. Imagine walking around with a pistol, attracting zombies, and just sending them through Resort on shoreline, and listening to other players fight them off. During the beginning of the wipe, actual guns and ammo would be available to everyone, and over time youd have to makeshift your bullets and weapons as they become more scarce. Of course, it would be a part of your community and depending on your community and what you have, the more you can do. Idk I think it would be a pretty neat concept. Of course, its not all planned out, but in my mind it would be all fleshed out without any real setbacks like no one having a weapon entirely and only relying on melee weapons or something.

So will the safehouses be vulnerable to attack when you're not online? I don't really have that much free time to constantly be playing a game to make sure things are ok with it...

PvE-only servers might actually push me to check the game once it releases.

Cautiously optimistic