I now have a hankering to see a 1954 Staple Pickup Les Paul Custom done up in TV Yellow since it already has a mahogany top! NGD, M2M anyone? haha 🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com ❓Private Help Sessions: troglysguitarshow.com/help-appraisals/ 🔴Reverb: reverb.com/shop/troglys?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly 🔵eBay: ebay.us/R9fACt

@trulsolsen683

2 жыл бұрын

That can be... Arranged

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@trulsolsen683 Greetings Truls, I'd like to send you the '54 Custom mock-up I did. It really did turn out surprisingly handsome yet not over done. If you could send me an email through my KZread account I could forward the two jpegs. I think both Austin and You could really appreciate the Gibson styling cues I incorporated.

@d-mack7053

2 жыл бұрын

@Trogly I have a question.......What dictates whether a Gibson headstock gets the razorblade symbol/logo or lettering (Les Paul Standard/Classic/Studio) etc. ?

@clarkbabin9799

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know the origin of the TV Yellow finish but this is what I heard. It was painted that shade of yellow to show up white on black and white TVs of the day. Supposedly for Les Paul's sometime female musical partner. Supposedly the white showed up as gray. Like I said I've heard several theories but this one ive heard from several sources . You could say popular consensus

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

@@clarkbabin9799 No

Theory number two posits that TV Yellow was actually designed for television. Back in the days of Black and White TV, anything pure white appeared so bright that it washed out, often resulting in glare, haloing, and other image distortion problems. According to the “White on TV” theory, Les Paul himself suggested producing wheat-colored guitar finish that would appear white on the box without distortion. As the development process went on, wheat became yellow and TV Yellow was born.

@timwhite5562

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I understood the reason for it was

@NotMrDaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@timwhite5562 same here. Hence why if you look at pictures of The Addams Family set ... shit's PINK (and yellow)!

@tinystar3010

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty certain that actually is the official reason behind the name. Pretty sure Gibson already talked about that many years ago. And honestly, I'm shocked Trogly doesn't even know that claiming to be a Gibson collector/historian whatever label you want to place. I'm not even big on Gibson myself and I knew that. It's really common basic knowledge in the guitar world. TV Yellow and Fender's Butterscotch Blonde both served the same purpose back then.

@karlkononchuk6185

2 жыл бұрын

No, it references the popular TELECASTer, dummy

@johngerson7335

2 жыл бұрын

That's the correct theory.

Austin is in His House 🏠 of AWESOME Beautiful Guitars 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Randy is in the HOUSE

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Randy in the house.

That quilt top red Les Paul just check all rhe boxes for me. What a gorgeous guitar

@davidburke2132

2 жыл бұрын

Quilt tops always look wrong to me on a Les Paul. Just way over the top.

@ArgentPure

2 жыл бұрын

Red guitars have better tone. It's a fact!

I'm really surprised you don't know the history Trogly. It's been talked about by Gibson before pretty certain. Because in the early days of tv, anything pure white would wash out the imaging and there were several musicians who wanted to use white guitars for a formal look but it would mess with the camera so they created a color that in black and white film, appears white. Even Fender has a color identical to it in the exact same era. Butterscotch Blonde. Serves the same purpose. Have you ever looked at just how similar TV Yellow is to Butterscotch Blonde? Nearly identical to it. And both versions of the color are also almost always seen with black pickguards and plastics to avoid the stark white glare on camera footage. I've really never heard the 2 theories you always give us on TV Yellow. Even way back when I first began guitar I'd hear historical interviews on the background of stuff like this.

@Wargasm54

2 жыл бұрын

That’s just speculation. As is all the other theories. A lot of television cabinets of the era were also finished in a similar color. And the most probable theory is that this paint (or stain) was readily available and Gibson got it relatively cheap. As it was going on a low end model anyways, it didn’t need to be flashy and it was a good way to save money . Besides, if people were going to be on TV back in the day, they’d probably have a much nicer Standard or a Custom. So that theory really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Nobody would use a budget guitar on television, they'd use a goldtop Standard or black Custom. The television theory started in the 1960s as a guess.

I read somewhere that the limed mahogany ( tv yellow) finish was Gibson’s response to the butterscotch blonde telecaster

3:37 Happy Mask Salesman laugh / “terrible fate” reference, very nice

Cool guitar

The story I heard was that in the early days of Television a mirror on the set was a no no, because it would reflect thos bright TV lights back at the camera and burn out the imaging tubes. Same thing for something very white. So a light yellow was used to represent white. It would read as white on the monitors but it didn't reflect as much light as true white. It you watch early television if something very shiny was on the set you can see the flashes on the lens as black. That what they were avoiding.

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. Nobody would use a budget guitar on television (I don't think anybody ever did...) and the television theory only started in the 1960s as a guess. It just became 'fact' because everyone assumed it was.

My favorite is the all mahogany TV Yellow Standard, very nice.

I thought tv yellow was supposed to show up better on black and white tv.the blue sg custom is nice!

very cool guitar Gibson should do some more of these

The story I heard was that in the early days of Television a mirror on the set was a no no, because it would reflect thos bright TV lights back at the camera and burn out the imaging tubes. Same thing for something very white. So a light yellow was used to represent white. It would read as white on the monitors but it didn't reflect as much light as true white. It you watch the old kinescopes of early live television if something very shiny was on the set you can see the flashes on the lens as black spots, not white. That what they were avoiding, burning in on the imaging tubes.

My understand was pure white guitars were glare city on the original video taped used in earl television. TV yellow would appear white, but with no glare.

Its called 'TV yellow' because of the way the old black and white tv camera translated this color via black and white tv tech.. This color 'popped' in b&w

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody actually used these on television, the colour was only used on student models. It's an urban myth based on someone's guess. Sorry.

White finishes tended to "bloom" on the old TV (not film) cameras. The "TV" finish appeared white on black and white TV, similar to the way that red blood looks black on old westerns.

The blue SG with the gold case lining is a dead giveaway that guitar was owned by someone that went to U of M probably. If not, cool coincidence that it’s from a store in Michigan. Troy isn’t far from Ann Arbor really.

i heard tv yellow was made for guys who play on tv all the time and what the finish was is it would make it look white on screen bc white guitars on the tv screen didn’t look very good because of the black and white tvs had at the time don’t know where i heard that but that’s what i’ve heard

You do see that halo & white-out effect on old black & white TV. Due to the primitive camera tubes. They were actually a vacuum tube and also needed serious amounts of light. In England there was a medical soap-opera. All the doctors & surgeons had their 'white' clothes dyed this yellow. The early Fender Esquires & Telecasters had a variant of this finish.

Yay!

honestly don’t mind the delaminated headstock finish

Must be the lighting or something. On the Custom Shop TV yellow when your seeing it dead on it almost looks like it has a big smile just past the bridge. The last guitar the blue SG the way you explained it sounds like the dream LP I want and only ever saw one late 70s or early 80s .

TV yellow finish is a popular finish for TV cabinet/furniture in 50's

Loved the subtle Majora's Mask reference. Keep being awesome, Trogly.

@FloodExterminator

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed!

Gibson's "Limed Mahogany" finish was also called "TV Yellow" because it was made to show up well on crappy black and white televisions in the 1950's.

So many SG‘s!! That two pickup custom is awesome!!

The asymmetrical split-headstock is the original headstock for the "Futura" which later was re-named the "Explorer", and _not_ the same headstock as was designed for the "Moderne". At least two examples of vintage 50's Explorers exist that have the split design headstock. Rick Nielson owns one, and there's a photograph of Rick Derringer with the other one when he owned it. Nielson has stated that his is not the same guitar as the one in the Derringer photo, but it's not certain whether or not Derringer still owns that guitar.

TV stands for "television" since white guitars looked bad on early television. They appeared to glow.

When I was younger, T.V. was black and white. White guitars would LITERALLY glow and look distorted on the screen. Fender came up with "T.V. Yellow" to stop that phenomenon. You're welcome.

What I understood was that the called it TV yellow because at the time when TV was black and white, this particular color managed to show up better and more distinctive on screen.

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody used this colour on television...it was used on budget guitars (the LP Special). It's an urban myth based on someone's guess.

Ocean blue Love that top .Great info as always.

Trogly using the Dark Souls "You Died" sound killed me

I heard it was called t.v. yellow because it looked great on television.

That ocean blue '59 reissue is beautiful!!

That blue '59 reissue Les Paul is a beauty!

the explanation i always heard for "tv yellow" was that on performances on b/w tv's a white guitar would be blown out in the picture, they used this yellow finish and in b/w it looked white.

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

It's wrong.

@facebag666

2 жыл бұрын

@@goss1961 got proof? I only heard this from people that had been around when b/w tv's were common, I have never seen one irl so i was kinda taking their word on it.

That Ocean Blue R9 is absolutely gorgeous.

I have a TV yellow explorer. Looks great

I think that blue SG junior would look sick with a multi ply black moto pickguard

Good show bro thanks needed that and a beer 🍺 to un wined from Monday work stress

Hi trogly love your videos. You inspired me to start buying and selling. In my First month I’ve moved 4 guitars and a uke.

I saw a R8 in TV yellow in a store once. I found it online and went to go play and buy it, but didn’t vibe with the finish at all when I saw it. And I love TV yellow, I have a yellow Les Paul DC Special.

That Korina Les Paul got pretty trippy.

I TOTALLY WANT ONE!! An early 90's CLASSIC IN T.V. Yellow!!! That's on fire!!!! Dream guitar.....

That's one awesome SG 👌

This is timely for me. I have a les Paul special with a wrap tailpiece and been Considering a Bigsby. Full on mounted on top. I’m hesitating because I figured you had to replace the wrap tailpiece with something Else maybe with rollers. So you can just lay the strings over the wrap tailpiece?

@av.punk.801

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, yes, I beleive Joey Santiago of Pixies fame even has/had a similarly set up guitar as a backup from about the Doolittle era (only seen one blurry ass photo, so I might be mistaken). That said, I'd be worried about intonation and if it would lock up on you after a while and stop returning to pitch. Try it though, worst case scenario, you just swap it with an adjustable stop tail and run the strings from your vibrato over that.

Tv yellow classic.... it's gorgeous

I never liked gold hardware. I had a black Epiphone LP Custom with three pickups, switched everything except the bushings out for chrome. I think it looked better that way.

The TV yellow was invented after finding that a white guitar looked too bright and reflective when filmed with an black and white TV camera back in the 50s. The techs complained about the over brightness. So the guitar builders came up with this later called TV yellow wich made the guitar still look white in b/w TV but kept the TV techs happy by beeing not too bright.

@roebuckmckinney

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I always heard as well.

@mburtondavis

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. This is the first I’m hearing anything different.

@goss1961

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong....never happened. TV Yellow was used on student models that weren't used on TV. It's an urban myth from an assumption someone made years later.

@mburtondavis

2 жыл бұрын

@@goss1961 that makes sense because if the white was too bright you would just adjust the contrast on the TV.

I prefer the delam on the headstock. It looks GREAT.

Does anyone else miss the old school Musician's Friend catalogs? Talking about these reissues just made me nostalgic for those. I have a TON of them in my closet. Might just pull them out for.....lavatory reading, lol.

@roebuckmckinney

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Those were fun. The only thing since I was a kid to give me the feeling of looking through the toy section of the Sears catalogue.

@leviathan_is_me

2 жыл бұрын

@@roebuckmckinney Hells yeah! That's a PERFECT sum up of what those felt like.

I just could not deal with that Mo dern headstock. That thing just looks outrageous.

Love the description of that SG candy apple blue must be an American thing

Reminds me of a fully faded burst

Great video.

✌️

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Peace, Peace Hector ☮️☮️☮️☮️

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Peace Peace Hector

@hectormutton2542

2 жыл бұрын

@@hkguitar1984 ✌️

@hectormutton2542

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgt.grinch3299 ✌️

TV yellow. Back in the 1950s, white finished guitars over exposed TV cameras in the black and white days of television. Gibson created this color for that reason. I do like the TV Les Paul!

Think I would prefer the TV Les Paul with black plastic on the face as well as the back but keep the zebra pickups.

Anyone considering purchasing that red Les Paul from Unisound Yokohama please be advised that the customer reviews on Google point to a pattern of non-disclosed defects and other issues. Reviews are mostly in Japanese, but Google's automatic translation is good enough that you will get the gist of it.

Trogly would you be interested in the signed paper for the Joe Perry Les Paul?

I always wanted a TV yellow sg special

Its called "TV yellow" because 1950s B&W televisions couldn't show pure white as it would wash out and look like crap so they come up with that color so it would appear white on a 1950s TV without the wash out problem.

To throw an idea in the mix, the TV finish has been mostly confirmed to be because pure white would cause problems with old black and white TVs, but the reason it wasn't really on standards and customs is likely because if you had THAT money in the time, you'd be wanting a "smarter" looking guitar, so you'd go for black, not the "cheaper" looking white/TVY. White and TVY just weren't classy enough for the price point back then. I'd beg to differ but that's where my mind goes. Another TVY theory is it came out right arround the Les Paul and Mary Ford Show airing, so it might've been a tie in? Who knows, but I'd play this one, even not being a fan of standards/customs, it looks niiice. Greetings and well wishes from Utah!

LOL, this is more difficult that it seems.................... Oh, Whoooo Whoooo LOL

@BeatlesCuber

2 жыл бұрын

Yep people caught on😂

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeatlesCuber Indeed yes. I would say this is a good thing. Nothing gained by shying away from a little competition!

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing worth doing should be easy Brother.

@markbaum9615

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgt.grinch3299true words Sarge

To commenters doing the 'it's called TV Yellow because it didn't glare on TV' thing... You are wrong. LP Specials were budget guitars and anyone going on TV would be using a Standard or Custom. Gold or black. The television thing was an assumption...a guess...started in the 1960s that became 'fact', even among Gibson employees.

@barefoot-n-blues

2 жыл бұрын

Well, they are not wrong at all and it is certainly not an assumption that became fact then became false. Color TV, if you can call it that, started to become popular in the early 60s, for those that could afford one. Only a couple of programs were broadcast in color. The Flintstones was one of the first. Regardless, TV yellow was for the reason the others have stated and it was about 1955 give or take and it allowed the guitars to be visible without causing the stated glare others have said. Additionally the guitar only made rare TV appearances and the electric guitar was something very few were interested in. So we are speaking of TV in the 50s and not the 60s. Up until 1964, the guitar was not thought about much and literally played 2nd fiddle to a multitude of other instruments. Of course in Feb 1964 the guitar became center stage and suddenly guitarists abounded. Back to the point, TV yellow is just as others have said, made for TV and the infant technology at that time. And Trogly does not need to be criticized for not knowing this from 3/4 century ago. Oh I could be wrong but I will put my experience above that which is discovered on the net. Now peace to all of you and the real fact, is today is doesn't matter one bit. It is whatever others and the net determine it to be and what remains is a term TV yellow. :-)

Ish guitars is a wonderfull store. Very nice customer care. They are basically PRS dealers and have some unique guitars from them.

I know, I KNOW technically the special is a lower end model, but my tv yellow 2019 special (serial number ending in 0000, neat) has plek’d frets and everything. It’s actually awful nice even though I know what you’re saying.

I want a TV yellow SG

@nathanielvargas3863

2 жыл бұрын

SG’s in TV Yellow are some of the coolest looking guitars

talk about a tv jr being special,I've have a '59 which are the most sought after,bought from a shop in '69 unused for $400.People said i was crazy but ther were made up until the end of February '59,a lot of them just left over parts.The p90 is sick,possessed,lol.

Honestly, I don't think that Classic looks very TV. Granted, it might translate poorly to the KZread app on my TV (no pun intended). I have a TV Yellow Epiphone, and it is much more of a paint covering the wood completely. I also have a 1994 Les Paul Studio, and it has delamination on the headstock too, although not as severe as the one in the video

I remember when they had done TV yellow Les Paul Custom in the early 2000's...

@Deuce_Luminox.

2 жыл бұрын

I have one. Gibson made 60 of them in 2003/2004 as a Sam Ash exclusive. It's based on a '57 all Mahogany Custom with Nickel hardware and Grovers. It is a fantastic guitar.

Looks similar to Fender Butterscotch blonde!

TV Yellow would make sense if there weren’t a whole pile of other “TV” colors (I’ve seen white, silver, black, I think you just found a blue one in the mod collection or demo shop this week.)

I like the TV yellow classic.

It's called TV finish, because they looked good on black and white TV...

@myoptik3x103

2 жыл бұрын

That is my understanding of the reason for the name as well.

@michaeldevaughn6581

2 жыл бұрын

It's called TV yellow because a white finish did not show well on TV so yellow was substituted for white.

@pritchettdan

2 жыл бұрын

Both of you guys, correctomundo!

Had an Epiphone Korina Les Paul with zebra pickups that looked just like this about 10 years ago. Best Paul I’ve ever owned. Regularly kick myself for getting rid of it.

I returned the 2019 tv yellow lp special I got a couple years ago; wasnt worth the money. The 2019 lp dc jr I got for $540 was a much better guitar. I do plan on picking up a used lp dc jr in tv yellow in the future cause I like a good tv yellow finish and a good dc jr

@av.punk.801

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I've always been fond of specials. What ended up turning you off it? I know they're not for everyone, and that it might just not be your jive, but im curious

@MikeE-

2 жыл бұрын

@@av.punk.801 I like specials too. So I bought the 2019 in tv yellow without seeing it. When it arrived I already had the dc jr and compared the two. The dc jr was essentially a third the price and better feel and looking(of course comparing satin to gloss tho). The tv yellow finish wasn’t impressive either, so I just decided I to get my money back and try a lp classic. Then sold the classic and I got my first standard after that. Basically 2019 was the year to test the new gibson and keep moving up the model chain that I liked

@av.punk.801

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeE- ahhhh I see now. That makes total sense. Pardon my curiosity lol

T.V. yellow with binding just looks odd, especially cream binding.

Love the TV yellow on a Les Paul Special or Junior! But $5,100 for that 1963 SG Jr. In the sparkle blue color? Come on! To me that color doesn't even look right on that guitar IMHO, too much money for that. I did like the red quilt top Les Paul though thanks Trogly 👍

Unbelievable

You can send that to any NYC electroplating place and get all that cool gold put right back on!

I beg your pardon! My crazy Korina triple pickup V headstocked abomination gets the most attention, from Lust to Disgust! Mostly it sounds amazing.

I wouldn't consider my Gibson TV Yellow Special a low budget guitar it plays and sounds just as good as my 2 standards. The P90's just growl!!!!!

@davidpallin772

2 жыл бұрын

Good post Paul, I own both the TV Yellow Gibson Special and the Les Paul Junior in somewhat TV Yellow. They are fine guitars and I am proud to have them.

Classics are my favorite lp’s.

Waffles*Waffles*Waffles

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Biker Jon, Greetings Bacon*Bacon*Bacon

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Good evening Biker Jon.

That red Les Paul is beautiful. I only buy red guitars!

Birdseye figuring is a very specific thing. It doesn’t mean two different things, and it doesn’t mean honeycombing. Bubble or blister figuring is a form of quilting and is often inaccurately called birdseye. It’s very different in appearance.

Hey really like the channel, will never own any Gibson products, but let’s face it, the Les Paul is the most iconic standard in coolness hands down. Still waiting for Gibson TV to reach out to you, so what if your not a Rock God, they should appreciate your passion

Trogly's catwalk

Me. Trogly Would you like to demo the 2014 Gibson Les Paul all wood? 150 made. I have one in mint condition.

Was called Tb yellow because they wanted the guitars to stand out on... Guess what.... TV as it was a rising visual platform.

@nathanielvargas3863

2 жыл бұрын

Right, that’s why they did it to their “student models”

TV Yellow= so the guitar would be visible on Black & White television of the time

You dissed the best SG with small Grover’s but don’t want to let the long tennon maple too out of the bag .

Fun fact: Viggo Mortensen broke his toe when he kicked that helmet! Oh wait, I'm being pedantic on the wrong video...

The owner of Ish Guitars is probably named Ishmael.

Junior sploooooooooooge!

White didn't look right on black and white tv's so Gibson created TV yellow which would look white on TV.

It’s weird that limba “korina” isn’t used more. It’s not a hard to get wood

😃

Ooo baby

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings Al

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Al. I have a Bronze Medal for your third comment for today.