I think you are greatly undervaluing the power of Blur; being untargetable and hard to see for an entire second after you blink into a fight is crucial. With enough attack speed, you'll crit them before they even know you're there. The movespeed buff is also important when trying to chase down fleeing enemies or getting into position for a fight.

A bit of a confession. I know Purge hates playing carry, but I love watching him play carry LOL

I love your carry vids, you get so salty but it's usually justified and it's very relatable

@xk6828

Ай бұрын

I used to play carry year ago, ended be a dedicated support player due to teammates' incompetence.

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

​@@xk6828nah, at first i think like you thn i realuze all u need is slow down ur 0ace if get f when farming Just farm the safest part, if none then so be it and accept defeat

Crits on heroes: 1 on tiny 1 on LC, 1 during duel blademail. 1 on omni while phisical inmune. 4 crits before late game, none lead to kills. 2 on Sky 2 on Omni (both would had died to a 6th hit anyway) 1 on QoP 1 on Tiny 1 on LC Pre lvl 25 talent 1 on Qop 4 on LC (1 during Duel blademail) 1 on Sky 1 on Omni 1 on Tiny You left yourself open by losing Blur as an ability (Yes, Its trash in Methodical), And the satanic over Aghs also costed you the game (even if you were ninja gear'd Dagger breaks smoke, And also Sky popped in from smoke) Even if Methodical ofers +100% crit damage over normal crit. Its just like doing one more attack. You can't convince me that facet is good until it recieves a significant change. (crits every 6th attack or attacking doesn't dispell blur)

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

Metho is better

The thing that Purge leaves out when he says Methodical is good is what you are giving up for it. In a vacuum, yes, Methodical is good. The 6 attacks suck (4 if you count Dagger), it also sucks switching targets because it works like MK's Jingu. That being said, it is a lot of damage. HOWEVER, you are giving up a lot for it. 1) The most important, you lose your normally safe farming mechanism of Blur. Not being shown on creep waves makes it a lot harder to find PA, which is great since she can farm much more safely than a lot of other carries can. You can just pay attention to the waves ("just"), but it's still hard to find her. Blur is also what allows her to take stacks of large camps/ancients way before other carries could, which greatly accelerates her timings and farming ability, and thus impact. 2) You lose the burst damage of normal crit. Sometimes, as PA, you really just need to blow someone up the second you jump on them. You can't do this with Methodical because of its restrictive hit count mechanic. But with normal crit, you can jump on someone and get a crit on the 2nd or 3rd hit. Often times, that's enough to kill a support which is very important. 3) You lose crit fishing. Because you can no longer crit with your dagger, you don't get that sometimes nice damage when you're in a stalemate. But you also can't prime a crit. Being able to dagger literally anything and then jump a hero for a guaranteed crit is massive. That's why Methodical just isn't good. It's possible to win with it, but it's often in spite of it, not because of it. You give up way too much to use it (whereas you give up nothing to use Veiled One) and it has inherent flaws like lack of burst, large attack counter and the Jingu target sticking.

@leexabyz

Ай бұрын

This game in particular I think was case in point for how Blur would've been the better facet. He kept getting caught on the wave. With blur he could've hit his timings earlier and wasted lc's time, preventing her from snowballing as much

@nimpichu3711

Ай бұрын

methodical has higher winrate (48.7%) compared to veiled one (46.2%) according to dota2protracker

@Hallucinarix

Ай бұрын

@@nimpichu3711 you cant/shouldn't account for players who have perfect recall / assumption on where a core will farm therefore making blur pretty moot removed from facets anyway. at that point of course guaranteed damage will be preferred. generalized dotabuff stats have veiled one at 48.04% vs methodical at 42.73%

@jjakariasman2545

Ай бұрын

6?

@Rasea611

Ай бұрын

@@nimpichu3711 My best guess for that is that Blur's lane farming safety isn't as valuable in pro pubs because you can rely on your team to create that safety for you, and you have enough setup to allow Methodical to do its big damage. But for everyone else? Methodical is 6-8% winrate below Veiled One at all brackets.

I Like Purge's technical ability, it's very pleasing to the eye.

we love a good Latte game

I am a filthy PA spammer, and methodical just feels bad in comparison until you have aghs for skill refresh, and enough damage to kill both targets during bkb(by which point game is basically over). Not having dagger crits in lane for harass, and not being able to spam dagger crits while sieging with aegis feels bad. Ive tried it a few times and the only times it felt good was when i was already out of control and the opponents couldnt stop me

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

Crot dagger? Its like at least need 3 sometimes 5 dagger to ccrit XD

@karp_4902

Ай бұрын

@@RuRu0091 When you get 6 you should be spamming your dagger on the enemy support, youll get a few crits which make them leave the lane, or risk feeding. You either get gold from the kill, or gold from safe creeps. By this point your dagger is very cheap, theres no reason to not use your mana here. Not to mention without methodical, you have an indicator of when your next crit is ready, so you can easily land dagger crits on them

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

@@karp_4902 when i got 6 either i already abbandon the lane or win the lane and enemy support start roaming In real match u problabky juat gonna spam it on offlane, but kill8ng offlane not really worth it m9st of the times And farm 2 jungle camp is better and safer

Oh man, first time I've seen anybody trying it.

The first 30 minutes Purge yells at Blur being a shit ability when it would have saved him from being Dueled 3+ times in lane because he was farming with no vision around him if he had the other facet lmao

Regarding echo sabre: I bought it when i played PA but we got stomped early game and needed hp too. Is it okay then or should i have bought something else?

@muurl

Ай бұрын

battlefury straight to bkb most games imo. bf gives you way more mana regen than echo which lets you spam phantom strike to farm, and you don't really need the double hit. bkb gives you the hp and security in fights you are looking for, especially when caught

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

And ur dagger proc the echo which not good cuz u miss the double hit and just paying for the slow

Purge on a high damage carry and a 1 Hr video?! TAKE THIS LIKE!!

Surprised he went for a 2nd wraith band instead of a value stick or wand, LC and Omni always spam their spells in lane to win it. Also I think if you're going Methodical facet and get more early burst, then battlefury just dampens this early power spike. Your lane was good, if you got Orb of corrosion you could rotate to offlane and kill sky. Its easy to say and hard to do, but i think you could have gotten deso at a good timing and be a real threat mid game. Educational as always purge 👍

The fact that you got no support TP at 13:30 holy shit

Man, like all of AA's ice blasts missed from SB bashing them out of it

I think in fact *using* blur would've been good for dodging those first duels on you

what is that respwan sound anyone?

What I hate about Methodical is that it makes it so your ultimate does nothing for farming once you get Desolator. You just kill creeps before you ever get stacks up and end up never criting. Being able to oneshot waves and jungle stacks with crits feels like an important part of PAs kit.

15:05 You're 90% jungling though, shouldn't you be solo?

@ExtraCarnex

Ай бұрын

Hes jungling 90% because he is solo.

Nope. Bane, in fact, did not throw the most, you did.

No. You fed the most.

Sorry but this was difficult to watch. PA goes and kills heroes, not endlessly farm waves and neutrals. Way too much time spent letting yourself getting obviously duelled over and over and not hunting for kills. Purge's game style is too focussed on farming creeps.

@parko246

Ай бұрын

He's autistic

why go nullifier?

@danelo13

Ай бұрын

Removes Omni Ult and inmunity to debufs, LC press the charge, stops most kind of help attempts. Very good for focusing a hero which is what the build tries to do.

@peterkirk8510

Ай бұрын

Omni ult prevents him from dealing damage + He can't kill the skywrath on his own bc of force/euls, nulli fixes that. It also makes qop have to be more careful about blinking in because she can't just expect to euls and blink away. I think the worse item here was deso, it's nice but you went the overwhelming damage facet already, I think he desperately needed more of those utility items, the satanic/aghs/abbysal/linkens stuff a lot earlier

ILY Kevin

I think not buying linkens this game was a mistake. It counters duel.

1 hour game to get hexed and blown up with no buyback, sad...

Go with your team then if you feel like you're by yourself. Stop jungle and get kills

@RuRu0091

Ай бұрын

Get kill? U know how weak is pa at early game? They have tiny and qop, they can burst pablike taking canddy from baby Even if he die again and again he still got his item, soooooo what the problem? Pa is ur traditional carry so he can afk farm own latr game

aifwoafhuipwgbi

Geez literally the worst PA gameplay ive seen... nullifier before BKB against a sky is INSANE. The need to farm while your teammates are looking for kills is hard to watch. Not to mention feeding the LC

not hating but this is so dumb. You could've just bought a linkin's and u counter LC and your game would have been alot easier. Bkb and satanic are both usless, when LC ults you cant use none of those

so is this just league of legends now? you pick gems or whatever before the match like a loadout? how lame.

@Venucci

Ай бұрын

Are you kidding? They add a new layer of complexity and choice to every single hero in the game and you reduce it to "LoL ripoff kek lame"? Say what you will about similar features between these two games, but your attitude is what's lame here.

@andrick11X

Ай бұрын

Each hero has 2 (sometimes more) Facets to pick between at the start of the game. Some are small like Witch Doctor's cask increasing in damage with more bounces and some change entire abilities like Cinder Brew Barrel. You can kinda think of them as lvl 0 talents more so than anything like League's Flash or Ignite.

@Sacrifice117

Ай бұрын

@@Venucci you're confusing me for somebody who gives a fuck. i liked dota because of the subtle differences between it and other MOBAs. apparently valve feels the pressure and probably at the same time realizes their new game is going to flop so they need to keep their cash cows afloat. have fun with your 100 dollar battlepass or whatever.

@abbanom

Ай бұрын

@@Sacrifice117 if you dont care then why leave a comment. dont be such an attention seeker, instead seek some therapy

@guusbremer8435

Ай бұрын

@@Sacrifice117 they had battlepasses before this update, dota 2 has always been f2p and monetized to shit, this update is another nuance in playing your hero and an angle to counter others. don't make such a big deal of it