This Emotional Morgan Freeman Scene In "The Shawshank Redemption" Was Cut
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@cariboubearmalachy11742 ай бұрын
All you had to have was a 5-second shot of Freeman seeing "Brooks was here" carved in the ceiling and you understood.
@michaelelliott1212
Ай бұрын
Jimmie? LOL
@cariboubearmalachy1174
Ай бұрын
@@michaelelliott1212 I was going to look up what his actual name in the movie was and change it. But I forgot to do it.
@higginswalsan
Ай бұрын
I think that might’ve had the opposite effect. We would’ve understood well enough but it would also feel unearned, on a rewatch you might think “well he just left because he happened to have the same boarding house as Brooks?” Red going through the basic steps of what happened to Brooks THEN topping it off with “Brooks was Here” really helps the impact. Brooks was HERE, as in he was in the same cycle as Red when he decided to end it.
@ZonaElectronicFilms
Ай бұрын
The social science in filmmaking is truly on display here. A five minute chunk of movie featuring multiple scenes can be summed up in a single moment that made it to the final cut. Very interesting stuff.
@blackfootedferret
23 күн бұрын
So was Red
@DansChan995Ай бұрын
I kind of agree here. You can tell that Red is on track to the same self-destruction as Brooks when he first gets out, and then chooses a different path looking at Brooks' name etched in the ceiling.
@abeartheycallFozzy
Ай бұрын
Also he was at a pawn shop and the audience thinks he's looking at a gun but he was actually looking at a compass to find the tree. Another example of choosing a different path.
@webkid4567
Ай бұрын
Yeah his addition of "so was Red" with its multiple meanings is so poignant to me
@jpgcne
23 күн бұрын
Well yes ... proper movie making... no need over explain
@The-DomАй бұрын
"we laid all that ground work with ... we didnt need to relive it again." Fantastic revelation, and I think critical in creating some of the most compelling cinema of all time. Brooks fate loomed silently over Red's release without having to say a word. When Morgan breathed, the audience breathed with him, it was so intense.
@MatthewTS22
Ай бұрын
Well said, friend. The ghost of Brooks haunted Red
@Captain_Mike82Ай бұрын
I've watched this film countless times. Give me every second you shot. Please. I'll be patient with it always. Your art was so remarkable
@I_like_turtles_67
Ай бұрын
Agree. Brooks' looking in the shop window and you see the pistol... It made the audience think he might do something to get back inside.
@The76Malibu
14 күн бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKWalJOjosmpgrA.htmlsi=-N8l1di3GfdFACPE Likely was ripped off of one of the bonus features of a dvd / blu ray copy.
@dancarroll5478Ай бұрын
Too many Directors have lost the art of editing. They want to feel unconstrained but lose the fact pacing and being concise are part of good storytelling. So many movies are now 3 hours that should probably be 2.
@Rza383
Ай бұрын
I've seen the extended cuts of LOTR and the pacing is horrible when the extra scenes are put in. Edits can make or break a film
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@Rza383 those extended cuts are almost comically long the three together making up like 12 hours is insane, you could start the first one and by the time its over age 60 years and have a 3 generation long lineage. I felt this with apocalypse now redux and its my favorite version ironically but the scene with the French eating dinner was just way too long after tension had been built for what was 2 and a half hours just to completely stop and smoke some opium.. The Play bunnies coulda been cut much better too.
@jameshender48
17 күн бұрын
I also think part of being a director is learning to listen to the editor.
@TheSetkon
12 күн бұрын
Forget movies... Most Netflix shows are a movie or two's worth of content stretched out to 8-12 hours of runtime. I lost respect for the whole thing when Better Call Saul transitioned from briskly paced 40 min AMC episodes to hour-long snorefests.
@rossgudwer3538Ай бұрын
This was the perfect movie. Brooks death is one of the most shattering moments put on film. A true masterpiece of cinema
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
Yes yes yes, the way he speaks about being so lost and outdated to the world is frighteningly real, the world wasn't for him anymore. Its like watching a domesticated animal be sent into the wild.
@wiseauserious87502 ай бұрын
Bombed in theaters. Now its considered on par with the Godfather
@skylertaylor7283
2 ай бұрын
Chill buddy, Shawshank is the ultimate coworker movie
@jon8004
2 ай бұрын
@@skylertaylor7283 It's not on par with "The Godfather", but I've never encountered a person who doesn't love "Shawshank", and there probably aren't 50 movies that have that quality. And I mean EVERYONE. Like, everyone loves "Shawshank". I bet you some people think "The Godfather" is boring. So "Shawshank" is a remarkable movie in a number of ways. ("Back to the Future" is probably another example of a movie like that.)
@mleone77
Ай бұрын
@@jon8004 Yes, I once met a man who said that the Godfather "insists upon itself."
@grant5603
Ай бұрын
LOL, settle down, it’s great, but definitely not considered on par with The Godfather
@evanolet
Ай бұрын
lol no it''s not. maybe by people who also rank forest gump as a top ten film
@xz683Ай бұрын
It’s in my top 5 movies of all time.
@bushbasher85Ай бұрын
There’s that long shot of Red just sitting silently and stoic in the chair during his monologue. That was plenty. You didn’t need the five minutes.
@josephsoltero732615 күн бұрын
I'm sure Morgan Freeman acted the hell out of those extra five minutes-brilliant actor that he is. But the director's right. We already saw that despair; now we needed to see relief. And when Morgan Freeman gives us his final wide, ear-to-ear smile, we the viewers release a burden we didn't even know we were carrying.
@JustWasted3HoursHereАй бұрын
Hard to believe that this movie didn't do that well upon its first release. It has deservedly become one of the great classics since then.
@dagobert1234321
Ай бұрын
1994 was such a great year for movies.. Gump, Pulp fiction.. Any other year and this would have won all the awards
@JustWasted3HoursHere
Ай бұрын
@@dagobert1234321 Luckily it has earned its place in great movie lists since then.
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@JustWasted3HoursHere oh yeah this movie doesn't even need an award, those are all theatre for Hollywood to feel legit anyway, its worthy on its own.
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@dagobert1234321 yeah some movies get snubbed hella hard cause of the time it came in, 1979 Apocalypse now lost to Kramer v Kramer, both great movies and i understand why Kramer had won it was the first of its kind at the time with the single fatherhood theme. But apocalypse now is what cinema was supposed to be its an experience its one of a kind, and still today feels that way its tense, and insanely gripping, a cast of all good actors. There's no movie shot like it, the story of that too is one of a kind,. Heart of Darkness Documentary goes indepth. The effects are brilliant, they really went into the jungle blowing shit up. They pretty much lived the movie. You see somethin like this again or in any other era as well, a modern classic it is truly the movie experience, and for movies being a recent invention in the last 111 something years they really hit it out of the park pretty early on.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
28 күн бұрын
@@CKZEnt Maybe so, but it is nice to be recognized by your peers. I prefer the Peoples Choice Awards though as it comes from the audience rather than the industry.
@stephenfermoyle4578Ай бұрын
seen this movie 20 times !! LOVE
@RadeoАй бұрын
A story like this is pretty good at covering up how (also) agonizingly long the whole "approaching the tree" sequence is. That also needed to be trimmed 90s.
@danieljameshill6636Ай бұрын
It's a perfect movie. Frank was right to do as he wished. ❤
@josephtwilley7187Ай бұрын
Top 10 movie of all time.
@theonlyalexoliveira18 күн бұрын
Editing is the magic
@mairtohainle97732 ай бұрын
Love this movie ...
@cowetascore8476Ай бұрын
They also cut the movie during the bus ride, and test audiences didn't like it, so they filmed the reunion ending.
@malalford7 күн бұрын
Red was lucky. If Andy hadn't told him about the tree, he would've ended up like Brooks.
@yowie12Ай бұрын
The novella ends with Red on the bus narrating the same words as in the movie. Part of me wishes they ended the movie like this, as satisfying as the final scene was.
@mojojojo3411Ай бұрын
Release the cut scene!
@ashakydd1Ай бұрын
I would be curious to see that cut just to compare the tone.
@TheAsiavol21 күн бұрын
A great artist produces Art for himself and not the audience. If the audience likes the art, that is fine, but a true Artist does not produce art to appease the audience. That is the difference between Marvel movies and The GodFather. Hip Hop and the Smiths….
@steveb9325Ай бұрын
This and Outlaw Josey Wales at least 2 of top 10 guy movies.
@alanbyrne9410Ай бұрын
Where do I get this podcast?
@daniellydford6142
Ай бұрын
This looks like it's from the 20th Anniversary screening in 2014 - it doesn't look like the whole thing is online.
@owenbutcher1954Ай бұрын
AWESOME 👌🏻
@adrianrobertson5139Ай бұрын
How can I see this whole interview?
@Kayla-kr8tbАй бұрын
Didn’t know yet he had to kill a darling.
@mattmorris4016Ай бұрын
Director's cut
@eltravos99Ай бұрын
Good choice.
@IhoprailsАй бұрын
Thought stephen king wrote rhis
@koa7690Ай бұрын
HUMILIATION RITUAL
@derricknichols57872 ай бұрын
It sucks that they cut that scene out
@VenomAntiVenom
Ай бұрын
Not really
@cecaju9516
Ай бұрын
As much as I’d like to see that scene, Darabont is right. That scene was redundant and would have killed the pacing. We got everything we needed from Brooks’ experience at the grocery store.
@wullahblack645226 күн бұрын
Walked Dead turned into the same repetitive shit the second they fired this guy.
@BrndnNZT48Ай бұрын
I disagree. I think it was important because it misled audiences, they got impatient at the notion he may kill himself as well.
Пікірлер: 79
All you had to have was a 5-second shot of Freeman seeing "Brooks was here" carved in the ceiling and you understood.
@michaelelliott1212
Ай бұрын
Jimmie? LOL
@cariboubearmalachy1174
Ай бұрын
@@michaelelliott1212 I was going to look up what his actual name in the movie was and change it. But I forgot to do it.
@higginswalsan
Ай бұрын
I think that might’ve had the opposite effect. We would’ve understood well enough but it would also feel unearned, on a rewatch you might think “well he just left because he happened to have the same boarding house as Brooks?” Red going through the basic steps of what happened to Brooks THEN topping it off with “Brooks was Here” really helps the impact. Brooks was HERE, as in he was in the same cycle as Red when he decided to end it.
@ZonaElectronicFilms
Ай бұрын
The social science in filmmaking is truly on display here. A five minute chunk of movie featuring multiple scenes can be summed up in a single moment that made it to the final cut. Very interesting stuff.
@blackfootedferret
23 күн бұрын
So was Red
I kind of agree here. You can tell that Red is on track to the same self-destruction as Brooks when he first gets out, and then chooses a different path looking at Brooks' name etched in the ceiling.
@abeartheycallFozzy
Ай бұрын
Also he was at a pawn shop and the audience thinks he's looking at a gun but he was actually looking at a compass to find the tree. Another example of choosing a different path.
@webkid4567
Ай бұрын
Yeah his addition of "so was Red" with its multiple meanings is so poignant to me
@jpgcne
23 күн бұрын
Well yes ... proper movie making... no need over explain
"we laid all that ground work with ... we didnt need to relive it again." Fantastic revelation, and I think critical in creating some of the most compelling cinema of all time. Brooks fate loomed silently over Red's release without having to say a word. When Morgan breathed, the audience breathed with him, it was so intense.
@MatthewTS22
Ай бұрын
Well said, friend. The ghost of Brooks haunted Red
I've watched this film countless times. Give me every second you shot. Please. I'll be patient with it always. Your art was so remarkable
@I_like_turtles_67
Ай бұрын
Agree. Brooks' looking in the shop window and you see the pistol... It made the audience think he might do something to get back inside.
@The76Malibu
14 күн бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKWalJOjosmpgrA.htmlsi=-N8l1di3GfdFACPE Likely was ripped off of one of the bonus features of a dvd / blu ray copy.
Too many Directors have lost the art of editing. They want to feel unconstrained but lose the fact pacing and being concise are part of good storytelling. So many movies are now 3 hours that should probably be 2.
@Rza383
Ай бұрын
I've seen the extended cuts of LOTR and the pacing is horrible when the extra scenes are put in. Edits can make or break a film
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@Rza383 those extended cuts are almost comically long the three together making up like 12 hours is insane, you could start the first one and by the time its over age 60 years and have a 3 generation long lineage. I felt this with apocalypse now redux and its my favorite version ironically but the scene with the French eating dinner was just way too long after tension had been built for what was 2 and a half hours just to completely stop and smoke some opium.. The Play bunnies coulda been cut much better too.
@jameshender48
17 күн бұрын
I also think part of being a director is learning to listen to the editor.
@TheSetkon
12 күн бұрын
Forget movies... Most Netflix shows are a movie or two's worth of content stretched out to 8-12 hours of runtime. I lost respect for the whole thing when Better Call Saul transitioned from briskly paced 40 min AMC episodes to hour-long snorefests.
This was the perfect movie. Brooks death is one of the most shattering moments put on film. A true masterpiece of cinema
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
Yes yes yes, the way he speaks about being so lost and outdated to the world is frighteningly real, the world wasn't for him anymore. Its like watching a domesticated animal be sent into the wild.
Bombed in theaters. Now its considered on par with the Godfather
@skylertaylor7283
2 ай бұрын
Chill buddy, Shawshank is the ultimate coworker movie
@jon8004
2 ай бұрын
@@skylertaylor7283 It's not on par with "The Godfather", but I've never encountered a person who doesn't love "Shawshank", and there probably aren't 50 movies that have that quality. And I mean EVERYONE. Like, everyone loves "Shawshank". I bet you some people think "The Godfather" is boring. So "Shawshank" is a remarkable movie in a number of ways. ("Back to the Future" is probably another example of a movie like that.)
@mleone77
Ай бұрын
@@jon8004 Yes, I once met a man who said that the Godfather "insists upon itself."
@grant5603
Ай бұрын
LOL, settle down, it’s great, but definitely not considered on par with The Godfather
@evanolet
Ай бұрын
lol no it''s not. maybe by people who also rank forest gump as a top ten film
It’s in my top 5 movies of all time.
There’s that long shot of Red just sitting silently and stoic in the chair during his monologue. That was plenty. You didn’t need the five minutes.
I'm sure Morgan Freeman acted the hell out of those extra five minutes-brilliant actor that he is. But the director's right. We already saw that despair; now we needed to see relief. And when Morgan Freeman gives us his final wide, ear-to-ear smile, we the viewers release a burden we didn't even know we were carrying.
Hard to believe that this movie didn't do that well upon its first release. It has deservedly become one of the great classics since then.
@dagobert1234321
Ай бұрын
1994 was such a great year for movies.. Gump, Pulp fiction.. Any other year and this would have won all the awards
@JustWasted3HoursHere
Ай бұрын
@@dagobert1234321 Luckily it has earned its place in great movie lists since then.
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@JustWasted3HoursHere oh yeah this movie doesn't even need an award, those are all theatre for Hollywood to feel legit anyway, its worthy on its own.
@CKZEnt
28 күн бұрын
@@dagobert1234321 yeah some movies get snubbed hella hard cause of the time it came in, 1979 Apocalypse now lost to Kramer v Kramer, both great movies and i understand why Kramer had won it was the first of its kind at the time with the single fatherhood theme. But apocalypse now is what cinema was supposed to be its an experience its one of a kind, and still today feels that way its tense, and insanely gripping, a cast of all good actors. There's no movie shot like it, the story of that too is one of a kind,. Heart of Darkness Documentary goes indepth. The effects are brilliant, they really went into the jungle blowing shit up. They pretty much lived the movie. You see somethin like this again or in any other era as well, a modern classic it is truly the movie experience, and for movies being a recent invention in the last 111 something years they really hit it out of the park pretty early on.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
28 күн бұрын
@@CKZEnt Maybe so, but it is nice to be recognized by your peers. I prefer the Peoples Choice Awards though as it comes from the audience rather than the industry.
seen this movie 20 times !! LOVE
A story like this is pretty good at covering up how (also) agonizingly long the whole "approaching the tree" sequence is. That also needed to be trimmed 90s.
It's a perfect movie. Frank was right to do as he wished. ❤
Top 10 movie of all time.
Editing is the magic
Love this movie ...
They also cut the movie during the bus ride, and test audiences didn't like it, so they filmed the reunion ending.
Red was lucky. If Andy hadn't told him about the tree, he would've ended up like Brooks.
The novella ends with Red on the bus narrating the same words as in the movie. Part of me wishes they ended the movie like this, as satisfying as the final scene was.
Release the cut scene!
I would be curious to see that cut just to compare the tone.
A great artist produces Art for himself and not the audience. If the audience likes the art, that is fine, but a true Artist does not produce art to appease the audience. That is the difference between Marvel movies and The GodFather. Hip Hop and the Smiths….
This and Outlaw Josey Wales at least 2 of top 10 guy movies.
Where do I get this podcast?
@daniellydford6142
Ай бұрын
This looks like it's from the 20th Anniversary screening in 2014 - it doesn't look like the whole thing is online.
AWESOME 👌🏻
How can I see this whole interview?
Didn’t know yet he had to kill a darling.
Director's cut
Good choice.
Thought stephen king wrote rhis
HUMILIATION RITUAL
It sucks that they cut that scene out
@VenomAntiVenom
Ай бұрын
Not really
@cecaju9516
Ай бұрын
As much as I’d like to see that scene, Darabont is right. That scene was redundant and would have killed the pacing. We got everything we needed from Brooks’ experience at the grocery store.
Walked Dead turned into the same repetitive shit the second they fired this guy.
I disagree. I think it was important because it misled audiences, they got impatient at the notion he may kill himself as well.