Just added this video to our electric motorcycle playlist!

I really like my Zero DSR. I ride it to work and all over with its range. Then when i want to go on a longer run my wife and I ride my concourse.

Notice the use of the HoloCube in the background at CES? It makes it look like the video is floating in 3D space. Or it could have simply been an LCD display without the backlight. Allowing you to see through it. The e-cycle is cool too. This could be a cool reverse e-trike with a normal seat suspended in the middle providing easier mounting and dismounting without having to straddle it like a horse. That would also lend itself to aftermarket add-ons like a fully enclosed cabin so you can enjoy it in all weather conditions.

Unsprung mass is highly concerning, as well as efficiency of that fancy donut-shaped motor. Have to see how it will end up. Just reminding - conventional tech used for a good reason P.S. too much words "innovations" for 8 minutes video, considering electricity have been around quite a while...

@michaelbrinks8089

Жыл бұрын

Yup, the hubless wheel design was tried on gas motorcycles also.....There's a good reason why the huge majority of bicycles & motorcycles still use hub wheels vs a hubless wheel design.

I like the verge.

How do you change the rear tire ?

This video was little more than a sales promotional for Verge cycles. Phooey.

These bikes are 🔥!

Nice awesome concept bike power drive hub like

Thank you sir 🇮🇳🙏

"A new powertrain increases horsepower from the special proprietary hub motor to 201 HP; more than double the earlier TS's 107 HP." You sure about that? 107 * 2 < 201?

@AJCsr

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Math ?

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

They studied at the same school politicians get their math skills from :)

This is a redesigned hub motor right?

Very high quality vids for such a new channel. Keep up the good work!

@electriks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@cgem8426

Жыл бұрын

I’m a bit concerned about copyright issues. Isn’t this just recycling material from other channels?

@2nd3rd1st

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like an AI voice and script to me, who knows for certain anymore these days.

@2nd3rd1st

Жыл бұрын

@@cgem8426 Absolutely, and definitely without consent

3 wheel Verge model ?

... God... always... ...

Since when is 201HP more than double 107HP. ?

The real wheel motor is interesting and very electric-eccentric. A rethinking of the hub motor. No chain,belt or drive shaft, just direct power. I can see this being copied. Nice design but a bit pricey.Electric motorcycles dont have the big $ amount fuel savings like an Ecar as most get decent ICE mileage. But the maintenence bills will be alot less. After 2 Ebicycles I can say I love E vehicles!

As long as filtering is forbidden, you sot in traffic likeany other car, except bicycles

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

HOV lanes here also allow motorcycles, so there's a slight edge. 2+ in a car, or any number of riders on a MC.

Great how its the 'affordable' alternative to fossil fuel bikes, initial cost around double of equivalent fuel bikes, cost of electricity rising faster than fossil fuels, I don't see much advantage at this time, maybe in a few years, who knows. It will be very hard to convert the die hard 'real' bikers to these machines. Thanks for a great video and info.

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

I'm a "real" biker, and I'd ride one. I wouldn't BUY one, but I'd ride it :) As you say, too damn much money all the way around. Additionally, the claims of "sustainable" are dubious given the need to replace battery packs, with packs usually costing an astronomical amount of money and no released tech being better than lithium ion. Oh, it's always "right around the corner", and youtube is infested with vids on the latest, greatest vaporware, but for now seriously expensive packs that will probably require even earlier replacement than standard auto packs would be my guess on these, making that up-front cost look even worse every 5 to 10 years tops.

MSRP?

Foreign EBikes are to god dam high $$$$$

Does it work off-road and in dirt or heavy rain 🌧️☔

@2nd3rd1st

Жыл бұрын

As well as any other street bike. Ride safely in the rain.

@ThatGuy3714

Жыл бұрын

Well its not a dirt bike or AV bike so...

👍

If its quiet its unsafe. I rode motorbikes for years and put the loudest exhaust possible on them so folks would know I was on the road, otherwise I was beyond f'g invisible, it saved my life many many times. I see folks riding bicycles adjacent to the roadway with 5k lb killing machines and just shake my head, they are taking on too much risk with little opportunity to influence their survival. Just my opinion, which I am glad I still have after deciding to stop riding 30 yrs ago when I decided I had something worth living for.

Silent is dangerous to the rider others on the roads. Manufacturers, you can put back electronically simulated gears you know.

So in other words, if you have to ask how much, you definitely can't afford one ! 😢

I'm a Nigerian who would like to work with verge

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

Are you a prince looking to move some money that your uncle left you? 🤣😂🤣😂

My only advice ... Don't make your bike ugly just because it's electric.

@johncorlett3699

Жыл бұрын

too late...

Nobody is going to be driving a gasoline anything after a while. If you haven’t noticed our environment is in rather dire condition. Personally, I love the idea of something fast and nearly silent.

@Keepler22b

4 ай бұрын

i think more and more ppl will go electric. The technology gets better and better.

44k. ouch.

I'm guessing this KZread chaneel is owned by Verge.....Total puff piece for their bike.

I became very doubtful about the honesty of this presentation after the deliberate merging of sales of electric bicycles with motorcycles. Two different markets.

For 62k pounds u get a bike with a top speed of 124mph, amd a 0-60 on par with a liter bike. This is not a very convincing product

Don’t worry. He diehard naysayers will die off and open minded people will embrace electric motors. There are some limitations with battery tech but will a good number of scientists working on battery chemistry and density, I expect these limitations to be addressed. I personally own 5 vehicles and three of them are electric. I’m embracing change but also embracing the ease of use and low running and maintenance costs.

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

By low maintenance costs, you mean $24,000 to replace a Tesla battery, which is nearly at-cost and needed every 10-ish years? There's nothing open-minded about ignoring expenses in hopes of justifying a technology. The latest batteries are always "just around the corner", youtube is infested with vaporware stories that rarely amount to anything useful. The naysayers live in the now, until someone comes out with something real, they're in the right.

@michaelbrinks8089

Жыл бұрын

I have nothing against electric vehicles except for the high prices, planned obsolescence & purposely made to be very hard to diy repair. Of course gas car companies pull the same BS... I'd prefer to build my own ev for much cheaper vs buying a new ev if I had the money. Like an electric vw beetle conversion or small pickup truck ev conversion. For now it's way cheaper & easier for me to just keep my 1989 van on the road. It's in good shape, parts are cheap & I can fix it myself.... I wanted an electric bicycle kit but prices were a joke compared to a 2 stroke kit for $120.... For $120 + $80 in upgrades my 2 stroke kit outperforms a $1000 e-bike kit in almost every way possible except for low end torque. With some engine port work= 45 mph top speed & 85-90 mpgs. Engine lifespan is about the same as an electric motor & battery. If ebike kit prices come down, to a reasonable level I'd buy one.

45k for this? My wife's model y was just 5k over this

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And you can rest easy knowing that small children are slaving away down dangerous mines for the materials to build all of your batteries! 😵‍💫

@techtubes3981

Жыл бұрын

rest assured, most of any foreign products you purchase have the same stigma attached to them.

@joshdeakins1775

Жыл бұрын

What does America still manufacture? 🤔

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

@@joshdeakins1775 Politicians and economics graduates that don't understand basic economics. If only it was just for export 🤣😂🤣😂

@erichannes6392

Жыл бұрын

What about gas and oil fool?

@HarmLessSolutionsNZ

Жыл бұрын

@@erichannes6392 That would be the gas & oil that uses cobalt in its refining processes.

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Seems like when promoting an electric motorcycle or car, they give it a ton of horsepower. Why not cut back on hugh HP and give it more millage. How about a 100 HP motorcycle with much more millage

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

Generally that equation is in how you drive it. You CAN use that horsepower, but it drains the battery faster. Drive like less of a chimpanzee on cocaine and you get more distance. Also true of gas engines, but you're always going to have a minimum constant use dependent on displacement and idle speed that electric nearly eliminates.

i mean its pretty easy for me cuz i can just charge mine at work for freeeeeeeeeeeee no money spend brother and my job doesn't even know they have a outlet in thier garage hahahahahaha

The question is which Actually leaves the smaller carbon footprint.

@enmiredbythelazy4401

Жыл бұрын

Looking at them broadly, a valid question. The ONLY edge EV's have, and few make the point, is that electric plants can be centrally regulated to any level of emissions the public is willing to foot the bill for with higher bills. Even then, regular motorcycles represent such a low level of emissions that they have been removed from testing requirements here in AZ where we use them more than most other states. Coupled with the additional mining requirements and disposal issues of batteries...it's a solid question.

Ewheel invented in Asia. America pushes the Segway, the most obviously lame, impractical, useless, I possible to store version that also just exudes the word dork. Although Segway type things existed for years prior in Asia where they were rolled around like luggage since they were so much smaller, we accused them of copying the Segway. They have entire fleets of transport based on the e wheel. The tesla is really just a giant go kart based on the e wheel. It even had to put its dash on a center screen just like virtually all e wheel based stuff you get from China like when like finally popped americas cherry on the e wheel by buying a ton of e scooters from Ali baba. The only reason why the tesla doesn't have a real dash board is because it's based on the same thing as all the e wheel devices that Asia had 20 + years ago. They just for us to dismiss it and be deliberately blinded to it by showing us only the Segway.

Well since the Verge 201hp model is $45,000 and the Damon 200+hp model is $28,000 and it looks like it has more features I think the decision is not hard between the two. But since neither are out yet who knows. Maybe the Damon will be a complete turd of a bike. They are both suppose to come out this year so I guess we'll find out soon

@christianmoore2182

Жыл бұрын

One difference is i think Damon is a scam and wont go anywhere. Verge TS seems to have more determination to deliver. Gona say Damon is vapourware

Generally good content but you need to stop the bs between the facts. And pls. spent more time on doing propper research. The concept ist great but it's wrong to state the rider prefers torque over horsepower. The opposite is the case - all Japanese superbikes are about revs and power.

No thanks

Enjoy your 35 mile ride and you better make sure that you are back to a charging station because you don't want to push one of these heavy pieces of shit. Maybe someone can bring you a portable generator to help get you home. All for the friendly price of 15 to 20 thousand dollars. 😅

@ThatGuy3714

Жыл бұрын

They say range is 230ish miles so its about 80 miles more then any liter bike with similar specs and not many are going to ride even close to that much on a joy ride anyways. The bigger problem is the Verge 200hp model is $45,000. They are nuts asking that much. At that point I'd just buy a Ducati V4s lol

Not me, I still like gasoline bike's, just stop and fill it up and go, I hate when someone states that everyone is loving the electric bike, if you made this video you yourself likes them so ask everyone not just a % of people

@yohanag3408

Жыл бұрын

same here, don’t want to be waiting 30 mins to charge and always on the lookout for charge station…

@vorrdegard2176

Жыл бұрын

The ICE engine is gold no electric engine make sounds this good

@saikrishna8142

Жыл бұрын

But you guys are wrong because don't forget one day all crude oil reserves over earth will be completed totally the only electric will be there and on ather hand some technical developments were also being underway for instant recharge mind it

@TheGenericAssasin

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine people said the same thing when we switched from horses to cars.

@reshabrai453

3 ай бұрын

Yup that's your choice dude everybody have their own choice some people like gasoline some people love ev don't be discriminate each other if you don't like it then just ignore

I once had an 80cc Yamaha that would have easily pulled that log.

Sustainable lol ahahaha ahahaha, COVID lol ahahaha ahahaha, institutionalized screen propaganda 4 zzzzzzombies.

You are missing many bits of info. Cost. Range. Weight. Suspension components. I do not like loud motorcycles but if you think a quiet motorcycle is a positive selling point in the US you are nuts. I would love if my BMW were quieter but I’m in a huge minority. To stop raucous laughter remove “quiet” as a positive characteristic.

@costicuta2000

7 ай бұрын

Why? I love quiet motocycle more than loud fart motocycle