This Changes Everything.. | Deepwoken
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cannot wait for party mode to have the 3 skulls system that send u in the depths 🔥🔥🔥
@Koroth0
25 күн бұрын
LOLLL
@gooberbunchofrandomnumbers
25 күн бұрын
Make it wipe you straight away 🗣🗣🔥🔥💯💯
honestly I would be fine with adding the void kill back if the base game's progression was actually fun. The problem is I don't want to lose hours of work to some dude with a build that deals 3 bars in half a second, just so I can go back and do the some boring repetitive progression. If you've ever played actual roguelikes, dying and losing your progress doesn't feel nearly as bad as deepwoken because the games are fun and have a faster progression. Instead of being like "bro I hate this game" its "yoooo that was fun i'ma try again". Dying in deepwoken feels like you have to redo all of the chores your mom asked you to do earlier.
@Scruffyyyy
25 күн бұрын
They should make it to where if you don't have bell you can void, but if u have bell and fall into void u die.
@fatal_-mt9nl
25 күн бұрын
yall forgeting bout w rank fr
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879
25 күн бұрын
I agree, the devs changed the focus of the game to builds and combo-based combat when layer two dropped and that's really hurt deepwoken, it incentivises finishing our builds above anything else and since we're ignoring almost every single island and having fun because xp gain is our only incentivised priority, instead of trying to have fun by mixing it up, we end up grinding for hours on end at an island and burning out. But making progression even faster than it is now would ruin the game and make it even more repetitive, it's already absolutely destroyed the early-game this far. Now you can just ignore most islands and grind at lower erisia till power 11 which eliminates exploration towards minityrsa and summer isles (which has been irrelevant as a place to gain levels since layer 2), and after that you just go to hive and grind till power 17, and then it's time to kill the same bosses we've had since forever. Not only that, but the earlygame DvM scaling buff (power 1 -> power 6 scaling, etc) made it so that you can skip even erisia and just go straight to hive after trial of one. Early-game progression is right on the brink of collapse, and if they speed up progression even further then it'll become non-existent And on your 'build-that-deals-3-bars-in-half-a-second' part I also agree, making the game combo-based has destroyed deepwoken PvP, it doesn't matter how tanky you are anymore because if you eat a combo to the face you're down 2 bars minimum. And instead of doing smaller amounts of damage throughout the whole fight until one of you keels over (like layer 1), you're applying majority of your damage through a combo in a few seconds and it'll only take a few missed parries to die
@Kat-fs1oj
24 күн бұрын
@@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879 i agree on the progression stuff, progging rn needs to incentivize more variety besides to1 > hive > bosses > do all your oath/mantra/murmur quests (chores). i think the combo-based combat is more just,, how the game is going now. personally i think mantras generally do too much damage, but if you *eat* a whole combo the game is balanced around that being supposed to do 2-3 bars. the game is more made to play closer to traditional fighting games ie SF MK SSB tekken etc where eating a combo will basically be half the fight over (hell, venting is a mechanic basically lifted from those games and is explicitly made to be a *combo* breaker). if you dont like that kind of game and prefer the old thousand cuts skillful sustain of verse 1 then i wont fault you and even agree that was pretty fun, but deepwoken just isnt really that anymore
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879
24 күн бұрын
@@Kat-fs1oj I see, it's just that I observe almost the entire community complaining about high dmg combos and wonder if it's really right for the game or not
i hope party mode does end up coming it does sound fun
FUCK , I saw the stormeye shooting and thought they restored bullets , why do me like this Dan 😭😭😭
The logging after prolonged eye contact gave me ptsd flashbacks, back when i was a permafreshie and you would clearly be a freshie and get killed by max level depth’s gankers hoping they hit gold (or just being a typical deep player) I remember one time i killed one boosted player at power 7 (old power 7/60) and some guy around level 30+ I felt like sun jin woo 😂
I just really don’t want the pve side of deepwoken to get fucked in the ass by pvp losers. That’s why I want the voids to stay in deepwoken. I think instead of removing the void safety net, they should make it so if you use that safety net while in c tag, you’re punished in some way.
@pappyslap6239
24 күн бұрын
that would suck icl, let the weirdo sweats who crave pve build ganks suffer. i swear deepwoken used to be pve and pvp now its becoming solely some pvp game
@beadeepwoken
24 күн бұрын
Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss. Losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.
@user-ww7si3dw3c
23 күн бұрын
Difficulty and unfairness are different things Sadly rag didn't understand it in the years of his gamedev experience@@beadeepwoken
@momoavatar4960
21 күн бұрын
just go to low pop servers. its also not just about pve, because in pvp depths ganker guilds will flood and they have people on deepbound duty basically, where they just have a guy who's on standby with a deepbound freshie and when one is low he spawns in and the person who's low jumps them for a free max heal and they either void or log. simply not fun because it benefits the one with more stepbros
@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
13 күн бұрын
They should made light and mediums viable for pve tbh
deepwoken died for me personally after it became so casual, I just cant enjoy the game when everythings so cheesy and its basically just a glorified battlegrounds game. I miss those huge open world ganks and when depths ganking wasnt so professional which it now is because of stuff like voiding people just void and then live to fight another day
@trucoteca1924
25 күн бұрын
Yeah man every friday the "unforgiving and difficult" part of the game gets easier and easier
@trucoteca1924
25 күн бұрын
Although i feel like deepwoken can still be difficult if we get some actual difficulty increase in layer 3/central luminant update, the inmersive part this game went for is totally gone tho
@josevictorribeirolisboa7576
23 күн бұрын
@@trucoteca1924Game has never been dificult. There is no dificulty in doing the same thing several times. And its only natural for it to become easier.
@trucoteca1924
22 күн бұрын
@@josevictorribeirolisboa7576 you're right, maybe i just need to take a break
can you start using the hello neighbour version of the like and subscribe animation
Add stakes… but not until my friends that are new get good enough to hold their own
RE; void one shots I dont even Hate progressing, it just takes too long. If my echoes could buy xp gain buffs or stuff like skipping oath quests, itd help a lot. I genuinely enjoy travelling around with my friends, i dont enjoy doing it to pick 3 random ass flowers across the world from eachother. Also, i hate depths ganking mostly bcuz of the prog. It just makes me sad, man, and thets not a fun way to experience a game
Honestly if we got some low-level void tower equivilant (literally just random mobs that just scale with your level) I wouldn't even care if they did the depths changes cause progression would actually be fun. not whatever bullshit diluvian is
Sunken Predator rework could be something to stack slows instead of making them slow set outright
@NRVNQSRR
24 күн бұрын
also dan, ur link on discord is dead
when youre talking its like at the ned of every word there is a w
Yeah for pvp personally I love watching keiito and inu so much just because they pvp in ganks and rarely in chine
u play bg3?
4:54 to be fair, rouge builds take like 2 hours at max to complete, unlike deepwoken where you prog for 4 hours just to wipe to a depth ganker while getting your oath
I think theres a bit of rose tinted glasses comparing deep ganking and rogue ganking. You must remember shinobi being a class that is in the video game, and also hoppa mages, and just mages in general, making the game and ganking just not fun alot of the time.
making deepwoken more dangerous is like ripping a bandaid off. itll hurt at first but in the end its good overall, or maybe thats just me cus im a cry baby permafreshie but now that ive gotten a little better i miss the danger that i would always cheese and avoid and never got to really experience
"make deepwoken casual! make deepwoken hardcore!"
The problem with changing this is LAYER 2, the depths has become way more important for PVE and content in general, that one area will just have people camping it
If they are making it easier to wipe then the time that proging takes should be 1-3 hours max. It doesn't feel fun wiping and realizing that I have to spend another 8+ hours to make a build.
@momoavatar4960
21 күн бұрын
it kind of is really, you can literally just do to1 > crypt to power 15 > duke to power 18-20 > hookless chaser to finish off build and/or for bell
@alekmanukyan7986
21 күн бұрын
@@momoavatar4960 Hookless chaser? Why hookless
Wsg gang
The issue is that verse 1 deep was an adventure horror experience. Wiping was an element to weld such label. Now deep is a competitive MMO rpg, and wiping has no value whatsoever, making progression just more tedious and annoying if you get jumped in the depths.
Hop on rogue!
I think any official leaderboards should be removed from the game to allow the mysteriousness of the game to flourish once more. Now, you can't tell how many points a guild has. You can't tell how active they are or how good they are. You don't know anything till you fight them. And I think that should really be the general vibe of the game.
@redstaria963
25 күн бұрын
That just feels like a CC game at that point. You gotta know everything about everyone without any outside info and stuff
@drifter2391
25 күн бұрын
@@redstaria963 The rest of the game is normal. It's just the leaderboards are trashed so no expectations. Would bring back some of the old vibe tbh. No godseekers or top 250s.
@redstaria963
24 күн бұрын
@@drifter2391 idk how that would be bring back old vibes but okay
@momoavatar4960
21 күн бұрын
@@redstaria963 why? aint no need for it especially when a vast majority of the playerbase agrees chime is a big part of why deepwoken is so bad. aint nothing wrong with things being spread through word of mouth
@redstaria963
21 күн бұрын
@@momoavatar4960 yeah you're right but it just feels pointless when the game has a playerbase of like 10k. (I haven't played deepwoken in a while so I assume overworld Rank is a thing) Rank also encourages overworld pvp for people that want to prove their good at the game instead of just simply tales told by people that fought them.
mr vr you should become a variety gamer 🗣🔥💯play the new elden ring dlc and make videos on it we’d all bump that shit 🗣🔥💯🔥💯
If they make the depths harder they need to up the loot spawns.
Deadass I don’t think I’ve ever lost a build since like verse 1
dodge ball would be fun asf
Don’t make void wipe instantly only if your in player combat cause there’s a quest that neeeds hookless
DanVR is one more video from playing "Never Meant To Belong" in his videos
Bring the luck stat back fr... make it increase when you help freshies instead, do good stuff, sorta like Karma or something. You dont get punished for doing bad stuff, you just gain for doing good.
To be honest they should remove arena skulls. And i get it its a perma death wiping game but at the end of the day im just trying to have fun and not waste time escaping depths for the 60th time after some cheese mage build kills me, but im not the one to say it i aint no dev.
depths ganking is fun brah mostly cus in the depths i can actually get more than 120 fps and in overworld 9v9 ganks im getting 50 fps its just not fun overworld
mr dan holy hell get fast blade on your builds you need it LOL
@DanVR1
24 күн бұрын
real LOL
ive never had problem with risk in deep, the problem is when you have the developers adding 1200 damage insta posturebreak 6 billion particle effects (all animated) undodgeable mantras if youre a pve build you should have a slim chance to survive a gank, not a zero percent chance i very much agree with the balancing update youre talkin about, cause it NEEDS it for risk to actually be fun
Shake it around a lil 💔
someone help what music is playing 1:35
I miss old Stormseye
they should make enchants drop on wipe cause no one really brings up their enchants on wipe
flame buffs made it unironically the best attunement, beating even ironsing
i agree with making the depths harder, but lets be real, the new player experience is already horrible and this wouldnt help 😭
@momoavatar4960
21 күн бұрын
realistically if ur a new player u either dont know about voiding or u get steamrolled so fast its not even an option anymore
bring back exploiting too i miss getting ganked by exploiters its like they are the 3rd type of npc
1:50 youre sure its JUST "snot" in your throat?
also bro why woukd u force people yo fight in a game that was meant to be about exploration
i hope party mode does come out
@nomnom2409
25 күн бұрын
Imma have my first born before that happens
Yeah tell arch relics should be dropped on wipe because you cant pass it down anyway.
Ngl they just gotta wipe everyones slots and make stuff rare again the game is like a sandbox rn
I depths gank cuz it’s fun
i remember i was shitting my pants when i was getting deepbound origin for the first time in verse 1, i logged every 2 minutes on the way to deepbound and castle light because the depths made me shit my pants, i want that same feeling again
@Lordbrood5151
25 күн бұрын
How would you do that? That's really hard to replicate due to playtime and experience.
@ThebestmanIVGaming
25 күн бұрын
@@Lordbrood5151 I think introducing depths ganking once more would be a start and maybe buffing the mobs to a certain extent
@thronebutt1314
24 күн бұрын
@@ThebestmanIVGaming thats impossible unless they invent some memory wiping drug that resets your deepwoken experience. The only other way would be to completely refresh the depths with a new map and monsters completely, but even then you'd just learn it all over again.
i fell like whit the depths ganking being profitable new pepol just gona die and quit so we are essantialy dooming the game to have same amount of players always
I tried to comment on this video 7 seconds in wpuldnt let me my streak is now broken am sad
Summary: this changed nothing
More Weekly Slop!!!!
Not the agamatsu video name strat...
deepwoken dropped to 1.7k players for like 30 minutes when elden ring dlc released lol
clickbaited into watching a good video
4:44 yeah but when your lagging all the time and having 10 to 20 fps it dosent seem fun and makes the game unbearable, the game needs to fix its low graphics setting because it dose nothing.
@Sc5ch
25 күн бұрын
Or.. stop playing on your potato PC. I get 100+ fps in the SEA.
@Bruh-ng9nl
23 күн бұрын
@Sc5ch I guess if dev already make low graphics then he must finish it to point where it gonna be useful
bro why incentivize depths ganking if ppl dont even wanna pvp? like its unfair that you make a build to do pve and a bunch of people just start attacking you because they feel like it.
@prettycoolguy9691
21 күн бұрын
nah fr bruh me and my guild pretty much always go deepbound nowdays because its a lot more peaceful than the overworld with all them sweaty voidwalkers. we dont need annoying gankers to ruin depths progressions too.
new chime calabash eating competition 😊😊😊 you lose you wipe 🥺
i js think prog is too boring rn for wiping to be common because if i have to prog the same build multiple times im actually gonna kill myself
@Lordbrood5151
25 күн бұрын
I agree. The progression should be changed if something like ganks and wiping were to become commonplace. Or maybe add more options to the fragments of self.
nightcrawlers are coming🫢🫢😱😱😱😱😨😨😨😨😨😨
Lets go this man tryna make the game ass again 🗣 Dephs the place were you WIPE its going to be more hard so the game its more annoying and less fun!!! LETS GOOO ‼️ Dropping relics cuz ofc i havent been hours for a sinners ash and RNG its totally not trash 🗣🔥 ... Ive been since verse 1, uhhh... No??? One thing its making the game harder, the other its making it boring and unfun even if you don't wipe, so yeah nty, dephs void should STILL drop you to L2, anyways nice video, have a great day and stay hydrated or else fino will buff flamecharm AGAIN
update your server link please :(
Easy fix for one cheese build: remove the ability to assassinate players in the depths. The lore reason for this could be that your heart is unsteady and you are on edge. Since you are "on edge" people are unable to sneak up on you since your senses are heightened. Comparing this to real life it easier to sneak up on someone chilling in their house then someone who is lost in the woods.
@Sc5ch
25 күн бұрын
You're braindead if you think removing the only point of going high Agility builds (aside from trackstars) is the fix. Assassination builds are literally hit or miss. If you get ctagged before you get your Assassination off, gg your build is worthless. Instead, just nerf everything related to assassinations in the Depths. Instead of doing 20%, they do 8%. Instead of getting 50% Pen, they get 15%. Instead of being able to assassinate you from 6 feet away, they can do it from 3 feet away. Removing an entire build that has nothing going for it except assassinations is just lazy and stupid in the first place.
DeveloperVR
Hey DanVR, how’s your day been?
@DanVR1
25 күн бұрын
eh not bad not good
@MattieMadMadness-uy9sn
25 күн бұрын
@@DanVR1 relatable tbh, hope tomorrow is better.
agamatsu ahh title
smash next question
@lux2caligo
25 күн бұрын
I completely agree with this above statement 🗣🗣🔥🔥
Danvr pls tell them to stop making the game easy its annoying ash bruh cos like its supposed to be hard
setro v2
I dont want the random ass sharko to kick me in the void.
@ellses3448
25 күн бұрын
Dodge
@KrissCrimson
25 күн бұрын
@@ellses3448 when being chased by a brute skipper... Actually any monster combo + sharko When low level.
@ellses3448
25 күн бұрын
@@KrissCrimson i got wiped multiple builds because i got jumped by mobs in the depths but whatever deepwoken is a difficult game. when i wiped of course i was kinda sad but thats how the game always was and i liked it like that but now thats gone theres no risk in the dephts like said in the video it juts doesnt feel the same because everything became easier. im saying this from a neutral point of view since deepwoken was advertised as a hard game and it became easy. my friend who has never played the game could roam around depths without any risk at all the only one being the bloodlord which you can run from cause its the slowest mob ever. deepwoken rn supports new players more so that they can get used to the game easier but it was way more fun when it was harder and even now when im better at the game id like it to be dangerous even for me at max level. the pve is very easy due to builds. shit is not rare anymore everyone is with legendary weapons.
@KrissCrimson
25 күн бұрын
Well, I only see being sent to layer 2 as pretty fair as it's very risky, where your death is only your fault. Where goofy players don't dictate what happens, where you are given your only chance to go back.
@ellses3448
24 күн бұрын
@@KrissCrimson its not fair for the people who attack you though? personally i dont gank in the depths but still jumping into layer 2 to escape any danger is stupid. even though i dont gank in the depths i understand why people would do it before or even now. fighting in the depths is fun, its risky and theres not that much thrill when you fight in the overworld. fighting in the depths is more fun knowing your build is on the line. the game was made to be unforgiving and hard and getting ganked by players is a part of it. how would you feel after trying to kill someone who killed you and they jumped in the void and escaped? being sent to layer 2 is NOT fair and very risky. you have to learn to fight one mob and then youre what? immortal? you cant wipe if you just jump in the void kill a bonekeeper which is pretty easy to kill. i understand why you say this stuff and that wiping is only your fault but the game wasnt intended to be like that they just make the game easier for no reason. if they make the game harder people are going to quit but also people are going to come back and attract new players. when i heard about deepwoken i heard it was really hard and scary. you could lose your character and thats what made me buy it. i wiped a lot at the start but i jsut got better over time, but now my friend who hasnt played ever before wiped twice when he was power 7-10
Ngl weekly updates are dumbest thing ever. Devs cant focus on good stuff hecause they have to constantly make shit nobody cares about. Like who actually cares about q new mantra they add every week Edit: Bro wanted developers to make goofs depthgank people and make it reasonable . Really feel that difficulty of me being jumped by ping 50 1000+ hours goof with cancer build and them dying to him. Yea it's about me being too bad to fight him with 15 lvl, and not dan's idea making game unfair
Click bait going crazy 🤑
it would be not fun nor cool
Hello dan can i get a response from my favorite youtuber?
@DanVR1
25 күн бұрын
yo
@HomeLess4Life_G
25 күн бұрын
@@DanVR1 Love your videos keep up the great work
Deepwokens main problem is literally its players, if deepwoken stayed too hard, their would literally be no players due to it’s permanent character loss
@kota3593
25 күн бұрын
People don’t realize deep was popping like that cause of Covid etc, their was nothing to do, now it’s gotta be more bout the money than the community ngl
@cyberman6918
25 күн бұрын
@@kota3593people don’t realize that if they make it hard again (it’s not rogue lineage and it’ll never be), they may be happy with a 2k player base max but the devs will make next to nothing and have 0 reason to continue updating the game, they want players, not a closed off game In my honest opinion the only way they can go the hard route, they need to make progression a lot more fun and rewarding to play, how they do this? I’m not sure but doesn’t seem that deepwoken will ever be hard again (Even though it still is incredibly difficult for new players)
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ah yes, the fun stuff that will take another 2 years to come out, to be likely forgotten, because it doesnt wield too much "free loot potential". what a renovational idea. fuck archmage, fuck ragoozer. dan, are you not tired of these sloppy deepwoken updates? yay, another friday!! yay, another friday!! feels like im working a 9 to 5 without being paid, always drooling for the "friday".
@OogaBooooga
25 күн бұрын
👶
@cyberman6918
25 күн бұрын
Just stop playing deepwoken, tbh I’m not coming back until it gets two major content updates, my sacks may fall off by the time that happens but it’s better this way, no more feeling like I’m waiting an eternity
@nominets7977
25 күн бұрын
brotha is acting like he will explode on the spot if he stops playing the game
Didn't you js dropped this????
@DanVR1
25 күн бұрын
uploaded the wrong file LOL
poop
ur discord invite link is invalid bro