This BLEW me away! - Meshless AIO SFF by Meshless Design
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Small Form Factor cases are pushing the boundaries of how much computing power can fit in a tiny chassis. From enclosures like the Formd T1, SSUPD Meshlicious, DanCase C4-SFX, and Fractal Terra, there is no shortage of small cases that can accommodate big power. But can they do it with just one wacky long fan? Probably not. The Meshless AIO SFF by Meshless Design claims a SINGLE crossflow fan (AKA tangential fan) can cool a 4090 and an i9-14900k. Join us as we build in this crazy little case.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Unusual but not new.
1:39 Exploring the Case
4:47 Interesting features
6:16 Installing the GPU
8:05 PSU and Mobo
9:09 AIO Install
10:47 First Boot and Benchmarks
15:33 Why are they rare?
18:43 Outro
Пікірлер: 2 600
ASSMAN has got to be the best abbreviation I've ever heard.
@garystinten9339
Ай бұрын
Seinfeld did it first.
@mysticgreg
Ай бұрын
Absolutely the best, no butts.
Honestly, this concept is cool. Just a single fan, less wires, less complications, less maintenance and more quiet
@Kroooza
Ай бұрын
its not a single fan tho there are like 5 others
@hunterromano5562
Ай бұрын
even then. the lack of concentricity and support on the fan will cause issues. there is a reason why boats, fans, and submarines all use a relatively common design. this thing will destroy itself quite quickly. twist a straw in your fingers loosely then with one hand slowly add pressure (simulating a bearing wearing) and apply pressure until it eventually wears unevenly and seizes. I could see that thing flopping as it was spinning almost immediately, personally I wouldn't expect it to last much more than a years worth of use with the current design.
@SuperFlawless2010
Ай бұрын
and its not quiet/
@dtibor5903
Ай бұрын
In industrial equipments and racks this is very common
@thoryan946
Ай бұрын
@@hunterromano5562 I think it will be just as reliable as your standard axial fan in a PC case. These fans are in use in HVAC equipment. I have one in my furnace and mini split AC. My furnace is over 25 years old and the fan is still running quite strong. Plus you see that design used in industrial equipment.
Honestly for the manufacturing complexity and how well thought out the build process is for a small form factor case that can accommodate a full size gpu the price seems super fair to me. When they started alluding to the price I thought it was going to be in the 600-700 range. If I didn't have a ton of storage drives and it being too early for a system rebuild/upgrade I would consider this case if I was going for a small desktop unit. It looks super clean and well done unlike a lot of small desktop form factors that look imo like pretentious crap, hopefully meshless does well I like their approach and look forward to more designs from them.
@chicken_punk_pie
Ай бұрын
same here
@babel_fishing
Ай бұрын
I was also expecting a much higher price. $350-$400 is around what those NZXT H1 cases were going for (those included a 120mm AIO + SFX PSU, but were not made as well as these, nor could they accommodate massive GPUS). This thing seems quite fairly priced. If I was in the market for a new case, I’d be taking a long look at this one.
14:21 I am a child I laughed more than I care to admit at that part
@sorrynotsorry8224
Ай бұрын
"Money and Niches" being added at 16:36 made me chuckle.
@deeomayall
Ай бұрын
With the theme being carried over with toilet paper!!! 100/100
@lastshoelace
Ай бұрын
Really off metallic sounding audio on some parts of this video.
I really like this video. I know it's just another niche product video, but I really like how balanced it all is. There's positivity about the design while still critiquing. Education while still having fun.
@jernaugurgeh451
Ай бұрын
The sound is balanced a bit strange at times though! I really noticed some kind of micro-echo while listening on my headphones.
@FREQQLES
Ай бұрын
It thermal throttled, it didn't achieve its goal. It deserved more critique.
@TheSliderW
Ай бұрын
bonus points for the pun flock.
@LashanR
Ай бұрын
They learnt from the past 😅
@aaronjones4529
19 күн бұрын
@@FREQQLES Yeah, you are correct that they said it was designed for i9s, so they did set a high expectation... However, to be fair, there's not many SFF cases that wouldn't thermal throttle with that hardware... If you're an SFF builder, then you're well aware that you have to make some trade-offs for the form factor... Also bare in mind that they didn't mention undervolting; again something that SFF builders immediately lean heavily on... For goodness sake, theres plenty of examples of 14900k owners struggling to cool their CPU with a 360AIO and a crap ton of fans!... And finally, don't forget that that was throttling in Cinebench, a 100% synthetic load that pulls 250-300W with that CPU - even a 14900K only pulls an approximate maximum of 120W when gaming. My point being; it was a mistake to make such a broad statement that set expectation unreasonably high to begin with... Your average PC builder wouldn't neccessarily take for granted that there will have to be a bit of a trade off somewhere. And yes, I know I talked about gaming a lot, and not productivity workflows, but with a productivity setup you'd be erring towards a compromise on case size, using a larger case that can accommodate one or even two 360mm radiators to cool the beheomoth that is the 14900K!... Horses for courses.
The editor was very happy to have that acronym at 14:20
@annoorange123
Ай бұрын
More likely the writer was laughing his acronym off
@VezWay007
Ай бұрын
And that ASUS booth shot at 13:48 lmao
@CalculatinGenius
Ай бұрын
dude i almost choked on the food i was eating when that came up omfg
@youthoobmoney
Ай бұрын
16:39 was some genius shit
@che-weihsieh975
Ай бұрын
@@youthoobmoney Cosmo Kramer would be proud
I hope these guys do good. 360 for this case for such a niche audience and design is pretty reasonable I think. Having something this small, that can fit this much power is difficult to begin with. Add onto that, the ease of assembly, and incredibly clever and well thought out design, make this case almost a no brainier for someone who was going to spend as much as the rest of the components in the system cost already. My main concern is how reliable the fan will be and how easy it will be to get a hold of a new one since meshless is the only one that makes it, because it's so non-standard. I hope these guys do some great business, because it would be such a shame for something like this to die and users can only use this case for as long as the fan lives.
@crazya8038
Ай бұрын
I'd consider it but I don't really like the look, I'll be paying attention for there next case, if it's more attractive I'll seriously consider it because it does seem like a great company
@TNH91
Ай бұрын
You don't hope they do evil?
loving the Owen Wilson impression @2:11 "WOW"
Under $400 for such a unique case is kind of crazy. I was expecting $600-1000 for the case. It would be nice to see if the fan works in a larger full-size case and not a compact case, where the airflow is much more directed. One problem I have with that fan style is that my AC unit has quite a lot of motor whine, which can be annoying when the room is quiet.
@ShockburnVR
Ай бұрын
indeed, after they said it was expensive i was also thinking it would be around the 1000 dollar mark. tbh with how the build looks it is really well priced.
@seraaron
Ай бұрын
same! I was thinking this would cost at least $500
@DapperMKVI
Ай бұрын
Me too. I was waiting for north of $500. At this price it’s actually a contender I think.
@ford24680
Ай бұрын
Same. I was expecting a $499 price tag the entire video. I'd pay this price for something this unique.
@delecti
Ай бұрын
Seriously. There are much more normal cases upwards of that price, and they're not nearly as novel.
I don't know if it was just me but several times throughout the video, it sounded like the mic audio had been doubled up and ever so slightly out of sync (like a couple ms) for a couple seconds each time. eg 8:15 , 12:41 and 13:40
@Gepstra
Ай бұрын
Noticed this in other videos as well. Good to know it's not just me.
@anthonyscrivener2267
Ай бұрын
I came here to say that too.
@musematt
Ай бұрын
yeah, absolutely true.
@psilon6999
Ай бұрын
it's because both of them have mics on them and when they get close to each other it doubles the voices.. also probably because they use wireless stuff which introduces that desync
@PastryWuff
Ай бұрын
Welcome to the world of audio phasing lol
10:42 just had me clenching for another Linus Drop Tips moment.
@SubzeroYoutube
Ай бұрын
I full body seized
those fans are easy to strip from older electrical convection heaters also from old defect airco units. been using them for years so if on a strict budget go to the local dump. many can operate on 12 volt and the voltage plus amperage is generally found on the fan housing. only issue is they are not black but almost always a dirty grey metal. still have them running after 9 years inside my hifi cabinet to pull air away from the amp which is the Marantz SR7001 which can get hot.
Sound was funky in some parts.
@XxSuprTuts99xX
Ай бұрын
Yeah I know they use multiple mics when recording (they say due to how much linus moves around) it sounded like both were coming through giving a slight reverb/echo
@charles-alexandremattelaer4623
Ай бұрын
Thanks, was wondering if it was my device sounding funky
@KasperVigen
Ай бұрын
@@XxSuprTuts99xX Yup, definitely some echo, maybe the mics were slightly off sync.
@mr.awesomesauce8412
Ай бұрын
Can confirm it sounds weird
@VigilSerus
Ай бұрын
@@XxSuprTuts99xXBoth mics will likely be mixed different, causing phase issues between the two when both play at the same time.
$360 for that case, honestly seems super reasonable.. Looks like great build quality with hyper niche design and great attention to detail.
@vocassen
Ай бұрын
They really hyped up the price, was fearing 1000 or smth Yeah it's pricey, but understandable
@kenshinhimura9387
Ай бұрын
Bro that is nowhere near reasonable. That is insanely expensive for a PC case which should cost less than $100
@7shortofperfection
Ай бұрын
Especially when you consider that it includes the aio
@halfblood_drag0n
Ай бұрын
@@kenshinhimura9387 no it isnt, if you want the cheapest case then get the cheapest case. this is not a normal case. no one else makes it so for i care they could charge 1000 bucks, 360 for this is really good
@RepChris
Ай бұрын
Yeah, i mean i would never voluntarily spend that much money on any computer case, but im also not the target audience. Its a niche, premium product and for what it is it is pretty reasonable compared to the other contenders. I was expecting quite a bit more than the 360 too.
A S S M A N
@DeltaNrOne
Ай бұрын
In the beginning of the video. Hmm wierd comment. After watching the video: Me -> 😂😂😂
@pinkstriptie
Ай бұрын
Ass-man?
First time I've been amazed by the high price of a SFF case for a good reason. That price sounds super fair for what you get.
16:38 This is funnier to me than it probably should be.
@littleknight6949
Ай бұрын
that is his super hero name
@sativagirl1885
Ай бұрын
no sheep were harmed when Linus rammed it in. Later they had cigarettes.
@AndrewTheRadarMan
Ай бұрын
"I'm Kosmo Cramer, Proctology"
@ffenixrising
Ай бұрын
@@AndrewTheRadarMan I'm glad to see this comment. lololol
@MichaelCeraVe
Ай бұрын
My fan has more girth
ASSMAN - very subtle
@leonro
Ай бұрын
I disagree. The word was very in your face - not subtle at all.
@Investigate-311
Ай бұрын
@@leonro nah dude barely anyone noticed, I'm blind and I almost missed, you must have good eyes
@toastbrot21016
Ай бұрын
@@leonro only 20% of viewers read text in videos
@eatmarth
Ай бұрын
I think these are criteria that everyone can get behind
@MeatNinja
Ай бұрын
Aren't we all
Props to their commitment to quality with their design. They didn't cut any corners or spare any cost
I like this kind of fan because it's cooler when used to cut stuff. And the airflow is looking cool
That opening shot was SMOOOOOTHHHH
@fantaguyreal
Ай бұрын
Linus Tech Tips inspires me... My parents said if I get 100k foIIowers, they'd buy me a professionaI camera for recording... pretty please…
@brezzlendean77
Ай бұрын
@@fantaguyrealoh my mother fu©king godddd
@metallurgico
Ай бұрын
@@fantaguyreal "subscribe for daily vids" has 5
13:46 OMG It's "Born for Gamers" My brain did not go for the SFW option first...
@nordvestgaming1238
Ай бұрын
... If I hadn't seen this comment I wouldn't have noticed what it was meant to be...
@avadrumm
Ай бұрын
To be fair both options seem reasonably plausible
@Hietakissa
Ай бұрын
I thought it was that as well because of the "rock solid" part
@paulheslin4299
Ай бұрын
Snap!
@euner_xcx
Ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one, omg
"There were a lot more puns, but they only got worse from here." Editor is the real one
This is really cool. I could see this working really well for the side vent in the front on the NZXT h510 case. If you could have of those fans directly pull air through that side vent and blow it forward in the case, that case would have much better airflow.
For the build and features, the price is very reasonable, I was expecting at least twice as much based on your reactions.
@blubblub3786
Ай бұрын
Yeah same. Personally for me it's too much, but if you got the money I wouldn't call it a bad investment. If build quality stays on the level of the review units at least.
@bryanlozoya445
Ай бұрын
I saw the price and was about to buy one, but they are sold out already so I’m guessing i wasn’t the only one that thought that
@phoenux3986
Ай бұрын
Definitely less than I was expecting, but still more than I'd be willing to spend on a case, but I'm also not really the target audience since SFF isn't really something I like
@sategllib2191
Ай бұрын
You're why gpus are outrageous
@factzilla1868
Ай бұрын
Swap out your easily replaceable commodity case fans for this one bespoke low volume part! What could possibly go wrong when you need to source a replacement impeller motor in 3 years time from some company that ceased trading
Not going to lie, i expected the case to cost more
@setaindustries
Ай бұрын
Maybe I'm out of my mind but I expected it to cost atleast $1000
@Versette
Ай бұрын
@@setaindustries I expected about 450 or 500 USD Nice price actually
@alexogilvie1840
Ай бұрын
Did not expect to see the egg here
@benwu7980
Ай бұрын
Not really a form factor that I'd go for, I like my full towers, but yes.. for how it was engineered and with 4090's / i9's.. that's not honestly a silly price.
@Nordern
Ай бұрын
The way they hint at the price, and the high quality of it i was expecting towards that figure aswell@@setaindustries
2:26 for bwoing
It's not just the silicone of those wires, the individual strands are also much smaller, (they are like hairs). That makes the cable more flexible but adds to the cost as well. So it's a combo of the silicone and the fine wires.
You know I was expecting it to be in the $400-$500 range, at $360 that's not the worst for a unique SFF case.
@fantaguyreal
Ай бұрын
Linus Tech Tips inspires me... My parents said if I get 100k foIIowers, they'd buy me a professionaI camera for recording... pretty please...
@chrisprobert6
Ай бұрын
@@fantaguyrealthis comment must be copied and pasted all over interweb
@ErikPelyukhno
Ай бұрын
Fr, this is totally not a rip-off! Fully extruded, well engineered tolerances and totally unique design. I checked their site and either they’re sold out already or haven’t officially launched yet.
13:47 That bottom part is absolutely insane 😳
@sitanshupani6409
Ай бұрын
Well it's not false tho
@dakshinaffyt3686
Ай бұрын
*Born
@twilo7618
Ай бұрын
@dakshinaffyt3686 ik but it's covered up so I'm going to abuse it
@Kromunos
Ай бұрын
Make it a subscription service
@rylenstuffsv2
Ай бұрын
14:14 is perfect
I always like the videos where they talk about different cases or motherboards with unique packaging methods.
I really love the case design. I don't have the space for a big tower, but I love the compact size. I'm really really interested in this build and will be saving this video for later.
There's actually a single server (that I know of) that uses a type of cross-flow fan. The Dell VRTX came out in 2012 and it's an "under the desk" solution for branch offices that need local servers. It's a type of blade server specifically designed to be deployed in an office space. They use four squirrel cage fans (cross flow) to cool the blades and several more traditional fans to cool the main board and hard drives. I use one as a home server and it's noise levels are very good (compared to other servers). It does sound just like a bit of white noise, exactly as you described. The one downside is the heat generation. While the VRTX has good acoustics, that doesn't stop it's massive heat generation from its 4x1200 watt PSUs. With each blade running 2x Xeon CPUs, you end up with 8 CPUS running in a small form factor server with 24 hard drives in its integrated SAN. It goes beyond a space heater into the realm of a house heater or sauna.
@crazya8038
Ай бұрын
Bro I ain't reading this novel do a tldr bit for us lazy people
@SecretSauceyjuice
Ай бұрын
@@crazya8038 it wasn't that much to read. Git gud, iPad kid.
@Versette
Ай бұрын
@@crazya8038imagine being that lazy but still leave a comment xd
@TheKirik71
Ай бұрын
Damn, what do you do at home with that 4x1200 watt horsepower. Rocket trajectory analysis?
@309electronics5
Ай бұрын
@@crazya8038imagine being lazy to read but not to comment.. 👶👶
Cross flow Fans are really great for Tower Room fans, I got one, it's basically just a case around a massive Cross flow Fan. They also find use in heaters because they can move a lot of air. And this is probably the first case I see in a long, long time that actually deserves the price tag. The majority of sheet metal cases out there are overpriced.
@kazefw3834
Ай бұрын
Most of the price for overpriced case goes into the branding. In this case, the price is justifiable, even incredible to say, that's a lot of custom stuff and with such a small batch, I don't even know how they pull out a price as low as that
Used to have a fan like that in my pc when pc building was fun and cahllenging not just pick parts of the shelf and assemble it. This just make me feel old.
I love the dynamic between you two guys
I bought a case in 2007 with a cross flow fan in it. It was the Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW. It was complete with a rear cross flow fan port. Worked incredibly well when trying to air cool everything!
@revcrussell
Ай бұрын
Came here to say that. I am still using the stacker because it is massive.
@ajsdfk
Ай бұрын
I've still got my stacker case as well. Monster case. 11 bays. Heavy Duty. Love it.@@revcrussell
Linus with no beard makes me think hes more geeky, which in turn makes me think he knows more about tech lol.
@linkfreeman1998
Ай бұрын
Also making him not look like Dawid 😂
@user-op8fg3ny3j
Ай бұрын
Twink linus is back
@DJStKittz
Ай бұрын
LMAO. You know whats funny. Just the other day my wife was like "Oh he looks like a geeky computer guy now"
@chrissbasement169
Ай бұрын
He went from the dad that can fix any car from experience to the annoying classmate from 11th grade
@2_cl3an
Ай бұрын
younger
i actually had a SFF case and crammed one near my GPU, i slightly damaged the PCB, but i got it to be far cooler, and it worked i got it to be basically full fan speed performance with idle fan speed noise level it might not sound like much, but thats an AMAZING tradeoff on another note, i think we need governments to add wattage restrictions for individual components, so companies get creative to get these systems to work without all of these dangerous new connectors that keep causing fires, or wattage requirements that would either overload house wiring or need rewiring to get it to work properly the "80 series" and "80ti series" class of cards need to be the highest wattage card under such a rule, and i mean that as in the current cards in terms of wattage requirements (or lower) the idea would be that you get things more power efficient for a myriad of reasons, but one could be that you then have a set thermal performance target, and thus another way to determine a part's lifespan capability
im using a Silverstone RL-FX121 since release as a front intake it works flawless
Ahh yes, the “assman” factors. Those definitely cannot be neglected with case selection
I’m impressed with Linus’s Owen Wilson impression. 😂
@Skymack351
Ай бұрын
Wow!
Rethinking the build I'm about to start working on, this is exactly the sort of case I've been wanting.
For the normal expensive cases y’all review this is somewhat reasonable and seems worth it.
2:08 Linus just hitting me with the random Owen Wilson impression caught me off guard. lol
@HopperChopper
Ай бұрын
"Is he even famous anymore" 😭 He was so good in Loki and that was super recent
But, guess what's even longer than my fan? This segue, to our sponsor!
I've just rewatched the 3D printed PC case video from a few years ago and thought it would be cool if you guys did a competition about who could make the coolest PC using a 3D printer. I imagine you'd probably want to keep it between 2 people given it would take up a lot of time on the LTT printers. I think this would make a fun video :)
about 20 years ago i had a tower with this and it was awesome
I had 3.5" hard disk enclosures, well they were drive bays for my full tower PC, with this type fan back in the early 2000's. I forget the company, they were not cheap but well made. Even had little flip down fronts with a mesh filter, washable, and adjustable speeds. No idea if they were worth it but my drives ran cool and never failed. That build, roughly $3500 in 1999, lasted 10 plus years...
@DigitalJedi
Ай бұрын
Was it Honeywell? I have some old 3U cases with parts from them, including a 30cm cross-flow fan.
@thorableinu
Ай бұрын
I had the cheaper retrofit 5.25" bay fans that stuck out the front, both had bearings fail so yea I understand why they aren't used anymore.
@LaEmporoar
Ай бұрын
How tf did a nineties compter last you until the 2010s? Did you do nothing but web browse and type on word for that period?
@LaEmporoar
Ай бұрын
like my family had a new computer in the late 2000s that couldn't even load web pages in a reasonable time frame (like 15min load times) after a few years
@darkchaosclanat
Ай бұрын
@@LaEmporoarCase and Fan, probably not the other parts
Do you guys hear about timecode? The soundtrack of two microphones is mismatched and it couses weird sounding speech.
@supergorillazboy
Ай бұрын
thought it was my headphones thank you
That case is frankly one of the most thoughtful PC case ever built. Not as easy as a mid tower or full tower, but for an itx case it looks rather easy to put stuff in correctly & easily. It, and the build quality rather justify the price.
"Expensive" is relative for that cross flow fan. A single Corsair LL RGB 120mm fan goes for more money than that. Sure, more bling but if we're going for function over form, it's not out of this world pricing. Also, this'd push more air than a single 120mm so you'd be needing 2-3x of them, making for similar price anyway when buying cheapo fans. Easily palatable pricing if it solves your needs. Hope to see them in more SFF builds!
Is it just me, or was the audio in this video wonky?
@MichaelHerms
Ай бұрын
The audio is off.
@standalm
Ай бұрын
And had an echo at times
@shakishingi
Ай бұрын
It was
A wild beardless Linus appears!
@Sydney_2011
Ай бұрын
Non sexy Linus. I wonder if Yvonne preferred him with a beard lol
@thenewsonatrain
Ай бұрын
@@Sydney_2011 pfp checksout
@RomanBellicTaxi
Ай бұрын
@Sydney_2011 he talked about it on a Wan Show episode. When he first grew the beard she was kinda comparing the pros and cons of him having and not having a beard. Now he's appeared as his younger self and she immediately wanted his beard back ahahahahah
idk what it was about this video, just really enjoyed how it flowed. much more easier to watch 👍
i really like those style fans. i have a larger version called a transom fan. not only do they have a pleasant sound when running but because of the design its reversible. it has a divider inside that can change the air direction without changing the fan. that being said i like that case. i think with some more time, feedback and popularity that design could really take off.
10:20 "Do you not wipe when you're finished?"-Linus Sebastian
Probably the only thing of Linus' that's longer than anybody elses
@Sol4rOnYt
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LMFAO NAH
@Seed
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Shame they made a hate comments video yesterday, this would’ve been number 1 lol
@Wiisporter
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@@Seed I was praying and hoping my other means comments made it in, they didn't unfortunately
@Itsme-qn7sp
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@@Wiisporter better luck next year mate
Innovations like this are such a good thing for the hobby. It may not sell like hotcakes due to the price but I hope they sell enough to keep on going and trying new things. Totally neat design and function.
My 230V 500/800/1200/2000W heater in the car uses a fan like that, it has been running since the 1970ths every winter. I will never give up.
The acronym is ingenious. Airflow, static pressure, sound...
I am sure someone noticed, but at 14:16 the acronym made me chuckle. was that intentional? :)
It's impressive to see how effective the crossflow fan is in this setup. It's a bit on the pricy side but the build quality and unique features justify the cost in my opinion.
I have that portable cross flow fan in the video which is supposed to be for laptop cooling. It doesn't quite work on gaming laptops, but after my desktop went dead and I decided to just use egpu on my work laptop, I figured out that this kind of thing is great for improving airflow on ultra slim laptops. With some thermal limit unlocking with throttlestop it makes a great choice for gaming. In fact it's even possible to use VR on such setup.
4:30 "I don't know where it goes and couldn't figure it out. Their manual is not done." 10:48 "We didn't even need to watch their really nicely done instruction videos" ^This kind of stuff is the reason you made the apology video 9:25
Managed to catch a LInus video within a minute of it being posted 💪💪
@liviosemprini3156
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3 MINUTE IN ITALY
@gantas7751
Ай бұрын
13 Minutes in Lithuania
This type of fan is used in most air conditioner units, although a much larger version. Nice video, very cool idea.
"I don't know where it goes and I couldn't figure it out, so I just didn't put it in." Great to see the quality of LTT videos continues to be the highest possible. And the callout to last August was the 5#it on top.
9:19 This is happening in a few videos now but it's the first time I'm commenting on it. The audio is sometimes very weird. Maybe it's because your voice is captured by two microphones, I don't know, but it's very noticeable (especially with headphones) and annoying to be honest. I hope you will be able to resolve this issue in future videos. It's not something that will make me stop watching LTT videos but definitely something that has a negative impact on the good time I usually spend. It just happens so randomly it's irritating to my ears. Maybe it's just me, I don't know.
@StormHawksHD
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"Maybe it's because your voice is captured by two microphones" That is exactly what it is. They should be cutting the sections when one person is talking through the opposite mic, but it seems like the editing is being a bit lazy when mixing the audio. It would be an issue if two people were talking at the same time, but they generally aren't talking at the same time it makes it a stupidly easy fix that just isn't being done.
Please disable multiple audio mics, there is a chorus effect that is really off putting, just put a gate plugin at the front, adjust it's input to allow audio after a certain threshold, you might have to go back to the team and ask for specific placement of mics and lavalier's to ensure best audio quality but leaving multiple mics on is not the way to go!
@tjeerd-ernstadema6366
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I was worried I was the only one noticing this, but thanks for the amazing explanation. Hope they can fix it.
Planning on my next PC to be a ITX or M-ATX build, and considering designing a custom 3D case for it. This sounds like a wonderful fan solution for me to keep in mind when the time comes.
Honestly this is one of the best small factors I have ever seen. It looks extremely easy to build in and the fans seems to just work for general use or gaming. The price is totally justifiable in my opinion, if I ever going to build a small factor, this will definitely be something I would consider buying.
The audio in this video is awful.
@jasonh1498
Ай бұрын
I suspect that their vocals crossed over from one person to the other. It would be easy to cut out one person at a time, but take some work if they are both talking.
Let’s just appreciate how Linus consistently uploads great content
Wow, very interesting product and concept. I really like that this is something actually innovative, instead of the extremely incremental changes we normally see these days. Now I want to see a detailed review of it from Steve.
I actually really like this idea for case fans. I could see one of these with one of those thin 1U radiators making for a very slim system with a lot of heat capacity.
You do indeed have the best fans Linus.
@Dynamicdrifting
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First reply
@Sol4rOnYt
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fr
@AwesomeKoffee
Ай бұрын
and you have the best seed
$359? That's it?
I had been playing with this kind of idea in my head for like 2 years now. Although beyond just making a sheet of air to cool compontents, I want one that is very long to mount along a headboard and make a nice gentle and quiet flow of air down onto a bed.
Honestly, this is a premium product, not an overpriced one. Extrusions that size are *INSANELY* expensive, for one thing.
@gtjack9
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Eh, if they can sell enough of them the price drops dramatically. Extrusions are extremely mass producible and efficient as a manufacturing technique, once you paid of the tooling that is
Love LTT but that joke at 9:30 was a bit off color
Lately Linus’ jokes have been falling super flat. You don’t have to make a pun or joke all the time to be entertaining please. Example; the fan joke was lame and a stretch. The asus one was irrelevant and not funny. The last AMD challenge had a lot of these along with the latest wan. Most of the time in previous videos they’re funny, but lately man they just don’t hit cause they feel forced, irrelevant, attention seeking.
@TheZelvan
Ай бұрын
I like the dad jokes
I would actually consider buying this. It is expensive, but it's not extortionate. I'm not a fan of the carry handle, though. It's a little confusing how they didn't see that as a problematic design. Everything else seems really well thought out and engineered.
“Wooooooow” Brilliant video. I’m going to buy this setup.
That's a great design, I dig it. So glad to see someone do it... side panel box fans (big fans) and crossflow should be a lot more common imo. So tired of the mess of multiple fans.. now with more RGB than ever (and higher prices to go with it)!
I had one of these to cool my laptop back in the day, it was a rotary fan that went along the whole back of the case to blow the whole length, it helped a lot!, I don't use a laptop anymore but it was very good at the time.
These would be such a good choice for a flat in desk built chassis
I'm not gonna lie, it is expensive, but I expected it to be absolutely unreasonably high based on the way you guys were talking about it up until the end. I think it's a relatively solid price point for a limited run of a unique, high-quality enthusiast item
Multiple mics are nice when edited right. good video, funky editing.
as someone who doesn't like small pcs i actually like this one and would build a system in this. I like the design and being able to have it sit on my desk and not blow hot air straight but blow it up into my room is a nice feature for me
These vertical fans were on the Cooler Master Stacker case back in 2004. I have one. It blew air across the entire motherboard. It was cool.
Every time I watch a new LTT video, I immediately think that I'm watching an old video.
Funny, I was considering exactly those sorts of fans a whole bunch of years ago for a case I wanted to build out of wood.
I have a hard drive that has a cross flow blower fan inside. It sucks air in through vents on the front of the drive bezel, and blows it around the aluminum disk assembly unit, control boards and power supply. It's a Fujitsu Eagle M3251 from 1984...!
These fans can be much quieter than normal fans. They're great for air purifiers too because they tend to mesh better with square filters. a company needs to make axial flow fans that fit AIO form factors, into 2,3, or 4 slot fan areas, , perhaps 2 thinner fans side by side with one pushing air out and one sucking air in, that would make the assembly much thinner, though still thicker than the fans would be. I swear there would be room in many cases I'm familiar with and they would certainly fit on the outside of a case. You wouldnt get the full advantage of an axial fan though unless the case maker designed the fan slot to reduce obstructions for linear fans though. perhaps some kind of cowling might help but that would increase the bulk of the system. Anyway, ideal use case is slapped onto the radiator of an AIO drawing the hot air out .
That meshless case looks amazing, cant wait till Im getting to the point of reviewing tech like this 😄
I needed to see more of their goat battle!
I’ve never seen that style of fan other than on an old Yaesu ham radio I’ve got. Works really well and is very quiet.
$360 is a lot of money, but for how finely made that case is, and the great engineering you get, that's a bargain. This is without a doubt one of the best SFF cases you guys have reviewed yet! I was expecting something crazy like $500+ but for a low-production number SFF with this amazing build quality, that's an amazing price.
I've used one of those as a case fan, salvaged from a very old photocopier (Canon or Panasonic, idk for sure). They're called "squirrel cage", I believe. They were loud and required 24V, but it was fun anyway. I don't think they were any good as case fans, as this design seems optimized for pressure.