1:45 Eteri Tutberidze interview recap 12:30 Evgenia Medvedeva 18:34 Brian Orser coaching style, difference between Ladies/Mens coaching, N. American vs. Russian coaching 21:52 Evgenia Medvedeva (pt 2) 28:15 Brian Orser (pt 2) 29:30 Jutta Müller documentary discussion 33:06 Maria Sotskova 33:23 Dave’s coach’s opinion on Russian nationals, Evgenia/Brian, insight into Tutberidze past, Tarasova 36:58 Commentating at Russian Nationals 38:46 Alina Zagitova 42:10 Eteri Tutberidze general discussion about having a large number of top skaters 44:20 Phil Hersh & others coverage of junior skaters 46:56 Stanislava Konstantinova & Sofia Samodurova 49:13 Euros & Worlds Assignments (Medvedeva/Tuktamysheva/Konstantinova/Samodurova) 53:16 Anna Shcherbakova 56:45 Alena Kostornaia 1:00:13 Alexandra Trusova 1:01:39 Mens 1:01:42 Maxim Kovtun 1:02:19 Evgenia's 2A in SP 1:02:49 Maxim Kovtun (pt 2) 1:05:20 Mikhail Kolyada 1:06:20 Dmitri Aliev 1:07:55 Alexander Samarin 1:08:47 Mikhail Kolyada (pt 2) 1:09:29 Tangent :D 1:10:35 Pairs 1:10:42 Tarasova/Morozov 1:15:04 Zabiiako/Enbert 1:17:18 Michael’s TSL debut :D 1:17:36 Dave’s coach's additional commentary 1:18:30 Boikova/Kozlovskii (Moskvina) 1:21:52 Bolero: Russian TV dance competition that pairs ballerinas with figure skaters 1:22:43 Pavliuchenko/Khodykin & Mishina/Galiamov 1:23:26 Ice Dance 1:23:30 Stepanova/Bukin & Sinitsina/Katsalapov 1:29:47 Zahorski/Guerreiro 1:31:00 Stepanova/Bukin (pt 2) 1:32:16 Popova/Mozgov (Anjelika Krylova) 1:33:55 Ilinykh/Solovyev potential… more on Krylova 1:36:00 Moment(s) of Russian Nationals

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

The performance I was referencing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/daR7trarg9PPdc4.html

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Irina Perren and Peter Tchernyshev "Je Suis Malade" kzread.info/dash/bejne/aG1krtmfh9DPdJM.html

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Kristina Kretova and Alexei Yagudin "La Haine" kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKuep8OzeqS0faQ.html

@caitiedidit

5 жыл бұрын

👑

All I’m going to say is I am glad the Russian crowd was so supportive, not just of Zhenya, but they cheered loud for many of our girls. It rained hearts for Zagitova and roses for Medvedeva. The silly media and bloggers on sports.ru have been spewing the most insulting articles against these girls. I’m glad Zhenya was talking and laughing with her former teammates. Her and Alina went to an orphanage together and they were laughing and talking. All this fabricated drama… Also, there’s a video of Zhenya telling Brian “my back hurts”. I’ve read on rus forums she has a spine injury…

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Arianne Петрова it was a very nice moment!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Arianne Петрова the spine injury may be somewhat exaggerated. Most skaters do struggle with back pain.

@user-dw9rf3tm8q

5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson Possibly, back problems extremely common. However her absence of a layback spin this season and patches on her back constantly tell me it might be more painful then we think.

@caseyli5381

5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson She has/had a compression fracture

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Casey Li I believe she had back issues last year before she moved to Canada. That is a situation that has to be managed and is common for older athletes.

Ted Barton is the Mister Rogers of the skating world, he will never ask pointed questions. I actually thought Eteri opened up more with him, less guarded than she has been with other interviewers.

Say what you want about Eteri but she is Queen of the mind games. That interview was a masterclass.

say what you will about zhenya’s performances this weekend, but i thought that by the end of the free program and at her gala today she looked happier and more confident than i’ve seen her all season long. i think regardless of placement seeing all the love she still has in russia really meant a lot to her. a year ago if she’d had this kind of placement she would be devastated, and while i do think it’s important to care how you do in competition (and she clearly still does) i think being able to turn the losses into something great is important as well. a year ago i never would’ve believed she would’ve sat in the kiss and cry laughing and smiling after falling at nationals, but there she was!!! i was so thrilled to see such a big smile on her face. i’m happy she went to nationals and i’m happy brian went with her, because it seemed like they have a much better understanding and connection now than they did even just a month ago. she also said she would be grateful to go to euros/worlds (prior to the competition) but if she didn’t then it just meant she’d have more time to work on herself. i’m happy for her progress mentally.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

She is really coming along and developing. That is why I think she is improving. It looks like she has gotten through the worst part of her period of adjustment. Zagitova will also have to adjust. There is an expression I like, "when you're going through hell, keep going!" It does look like Medvedeva has fire and passion left inside of her.

@badmiracle

5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson it warmed my heart to see her and alina goofing off together after the gala. in a way, alina’s experience this weekend resembles the same thing zhenya went through at the beginning of the year - seeing yourself being overtaken by a younger, healthier, stronger teammate (or in alina’s case, 3 of them at once.) evgenia watched alina’s skate and i think she recognizes this as well. both of them are incredible and i really hope they are able to continue powering through these difficult times.

Evgenia was on fire in the long, even with the fall. She had a look in her eyes when she was in her opening pose. Girl was ready! Edit: I also think her step sequence looks a lot better (her skating skills in general).

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

lexi smith still work to do. There is improvement. I think the long is just not for her.

@MsKendra79

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. She was more confident than she's been all year. I loved it.

@lexismith8325

5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson oh, for sure. This is a process- I didn’t expect her to skate at her normal level this year (even if her coach did, lol). But I hope she takes how she felt after the long and uses it to propel her forward. I don’t really have an opinion on the long, I think it’s good when she hits but it’s eh otherwise.

@lexismith8325

5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson I also am glad she seems in good spirits, from what we can see on social media.

I think Evgenia knows that she has a lot of work to do on the spins - she said in a recent interview that the spins are her weak point right now. She's said in interviews in the past (as far back as 2016, I think) that she wants to spin faster, and even though the positions were a little better back then the spins weren't as fast as she's capable of (except for the layback, which had excellent speed, but she's unfortunately avoiding it because of the back injury). She also had to change some of the positions since she couldn't do a layback this season, and it takes time to figure out which positions will work best and then more time to perfect them. The new training style, new choreography, and necessary changes to the jump technique obviously took a lot of training time as well. I think they should have given her programs that were are easy/comfortable as possible for this season and just worked on the basic skating skills and jump and spin technique for this season. They tried to do too much at once, and I think Evgenia was very smart to go with a new, more comfortable short program for nationals and I'm so glad that she skated a decent long. She definitely felt the pressure, especially after a tough grand prix season and I think she responded well! I can't wait to see what she does next - she and Kostornaia are always my favorite to watch. Alina is also amazing and I so hope that she is given better programs next season!

I really do feel, by the next olympics, the quad girls would have their run, and that season a new girl will come, and beat them. Exactly what Zag did to Medv.

@Sennagod

5 жыл бұрын

Valieva to win olympic gold :)

@gtestkey

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sennagod Yep, Kamilla or Daria Usacheva will be right there.

@Sennagod

5 жыл бұрын

@@gtestkey Most definately another amazing talented skater. I had to look her up again after you mentioned her. There's just something extra special about Kamilla i feel.

@alemomela

5 жыл бұрын

@mish098aimer Agree. Kamila Valieva will be very tough contender.

I haven’t even watched yet but can I just say I love Evgenia’s new SP dress, it’s the most flattering thing she’s worn all season.

Besides the fact that I think Kosternia is the best figure skater on the planet, I’m really routing for Alina. She smiled during her long program from beginning to end , which must have been difficult. Thanks guys, & Merry Christmas!

@artemisadelaluna9901

5 жыл бұрын

I love Alina & Alena they are so beautiful !!

How could you not take your eyes off her eyes. I honestly think the best thing for Zhenya is not to make he world team. It’s a throwaway pancake season. Take the holiday off. Rest her back and start with the basics. Like Kostner did when she was injured.

@MsJubjubbird

5 жыл бұрын

She'll be a better skater when she has some life experience that she can bring to the artistic side.

It has become very clear that Zagitova has injuries, but her team won't give it away (she had her knee and her ankle taped up at the GPF, and at the RusNats BOTH of her knees were taped up). I would really want to see her at the 2019 European Championships, but at the same time, the girl needs some rest and a good time to recover, so I'd rather have her skip the Euros. She has a lot of potential, people shouldn't write her off like some figure skating 'fans' have done so in these past few weeks. C'mon Alina!!! 💕💕

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Miss M she is very talented. They do need to rework her technique and make adjustments. If you notice, she tworks her body so much to make every jump happen now, especially on the lutz, loop and axel.

@tb4522

5 жыл бұрын

I like to dream about Zagitova also leaving Eteri, so she can properly be further developed by a careful coach. She's got so much to offer that gets pushed aside to make her a jumping machine.

@MartychM

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Yup, she definitely needs to make those adjustments. And I've also noticed ever since the GPF that every time they zoom in on her face right before the music for Carmen starts, she always has this terrified look on her face. She seems a lot more comfortable with the SP (Phantom of the Opera). Someone on Zagitova's team should be reasonable and rework the technical elements, I know that Alina can adapt to the change.

@Angel-xe2tl

5 жыл бұрын

her knees have been taped up all season. its worrying that months later not only the same knee is still taped up, but now the other.

@tb4522

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson but does Eteri ever re-work technique?

I haven't watched all of this, but I don't agree with the statement that going to Nationals was a mistake. I think it was VERY good. Before this she thought her country hated her, that her former teammates were plotting her demise. You could see in the FS that she was so much happier, she had a weight lifted off her shoulders. I think from here on she will be better with that lifted. Her ex skate was breath taking, and I hated it at her other competitions.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Chrystalis Revival We didn’t say it was a mistake for Medvedeva.

@userbunny14

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I wasn't saying that you said it was literally a mistake, but like... I don't know how to word it, but what you were saying in the first bit about her not being ready or consistent enough- I don't remember your full or exact words... I don't know, I'm not good at explaining what I mean. I just wasn't saying you actually said it was a mistake, but yeah... I don't know... I can never explain what I mean in a way people understand lol

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Chrystalis Revival I was saying that it would be very difficult to expect her to skate perfectly after all of the changes she has made and the difficult season she has had.

@userbunny14

5 жыл бұрын

Oh okay, i guess I misunderstood then. I do think going was good for her self esteem at least, knowing she is still loved at home. You could really tell in the long and in her ex skate. I know a lot of her problems in competition vs practice were totally mental.

@gtestkey

5 жыл бұрын

Well ugly situation in russian social medias made me believe that majority of russians hate Zhenia and it seem Zhenia herself believed so. I was so happy the crowd during events did show so much love and support to her. These internet trolls are just negligible minority. Hopefully it will give her more motivation and strength.

I was told there would be a gold dress. Where was the gold dress? I WANT MY GOLD DRESS

I was proud of Evgenia she sold her free program she looked beautiful and she did better than she had all year even with that fall. Tatiana Tarasova was lit! She let the haters know she's not done yet. She's moving in the right direction. Rome wasn't built in a day.

@kumrumir8072

5 жыл бұрын

Do you know Tarasova bodyshames, is a big bully and also hates Alina's guts? Why do people not realise tarasova is toxic. Just because she loves Yuzuru and Evgenia doesn't make her a good person.

@aracelichely2954

5 жыл бұрын

@@kumrumir8072 Agree kumru, unfortunately a lot of people don't this, since Sochi I realized she is a bad person.

@kumrumir8072

5 жыл бұрын

@@aracelichely2954 Her treatment of Alina was and still occasionally is so bad like she would try to break her legs if she saw Alina in a back alley, she hates her that much and talks badly about her nonstop. Not just invalidating Alina's achievements and hard work, but she and people close to her made really nasty comments about Alina being lazy, moody etc(while anyone can see she isn't like that at all, and really? Those type of comments can be sued). She hasn't alluded Alina's ethnicity&religion but i think those are also one of the reasons TAT hates her.

@aracelichely2954

5 жыл бұрын

@@kumrumir8072 I can't stand TAT, seriously I'm so glad I'm not Russian and I don't have to listen to her on transmissions.

@kumrumir8072

5 жыл бұрын

@@aracelichely2954 @Kendra Williams People need to realise that those (usually)old, influential but toxic people need to be called out. Or at least don't glorify them just because some of the things they do pleases you.

I think that we arrived at the moment much awaited: Eteri's juniors unleashed. I think that (quads and everything) is putting a lot of pressure on Alina, Evgenia. Besides all the other things they are going through of course. LE And not only the former darlings of Russia, on all of them. I mean, what is happening with Maria, Polina? What kind of Nationals would have been these without the Eteri trio? Not that exciting, I think.

@jimmyplank9824

5 жыл бұрын

Evgenia is playing the long game. The juniors look excellent at this point but just wait for the inevitable growth spurts. Not even Eteri can keep a girl at 4’8 65lbs for long

@ioanabdr9877

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyplank9824 I agree.

About Kostornaias 3A she by herself said that this season she is not able to land it almost at all ... if you notice compare to last season she grew ... her puberty period has started and to be honest she is quite good handling it

00:00 Introductory comments 01:36 Eteri's interview 12:34 Medvedeva 29:37 Discussion about a documentary (of skaters of the 80's?) 32:25 Briefly Polina Tsurskaya 33:05. Cue to Maria Sotskova 33:32 Dave commenting on Nationals with his coach Natasha (including insight on Tarasova/Eteri's relationship) 36:58 Commentators on Russia as opposed to other commentators. 38:46 Zagitova 42:06 Jonathan going over Eteri's coaching relationship with her students having changed after Medvedeva 42:06 Dave on how journalist cover skating 47:02 Konstantinova and Samodurova 48:42 Debating about Europeans and Worlds teams 53:16 The dream-trio of juniors Eteri kept 54:22 Shcherbakova 56:46 Korstonaia 01:00:16 Trusova 01:01:44. Starting with Men. Kovtun 01:05:22 Kolyada 01:06:18 Aliev (at the end some about Kolyada and Rafael having to be at Russian Nationals) 01:10:02 A story about two skater's moms in the US 01:10:38 Pairs starting with Tarasova/Morozov 01:15:03 Zabiiako/Enbert 01:18:35 The third Russian team (Boikova/Kozloskii) 01:22:44 After a brief comment on a Russian shoe Jonathan wraps up pairs 01:23:29 Russian Ice Dance (Two top teams politics) 01:29:49 Zahorski/Guerreiro 01:32:17 Rest of Ice Dance 01:35:07 Finishing thoughts

@nvadqs

5 жыл бұрын

Let me know if there is any mistake cause English is not my born language and I might have misssed sth. Thanks and Merry Christmas to you all.

Completely agree with Jonathan about the "easy to understand" bits of skating journalism and commentary. Look at how they covered nathan chen for pyeong chang and how it was all about the quads. It just downplays pcs which people sometimes already don't take seriously but skating skills, artistry and all clearly matter. And for an average person they don’t watch all enough to get the nuance of skating skills and all Samoudorova reminds me of radianova it's fun, it's flawed but I care and kind of love her.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

well, at least Radionova had a textbook lutz and bigger jumps overall. The points of similarity would probably be hunched skating and committed selling of a program.

@yingyingseah3294

5 жыл бұрын

Aida Ama hunched and 300% commitment

The thumbnail for this video is perfect. Oh the drama!

God knows we needed this after the wild emotional ride of the RusNat!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Alexandra Lisogor 😘

In one interview, Zhenya said she has asked Brian to be more critical of her. She was coached in a way where one arm could not be left out of place and now that is not happening. I really hope she is more polished next season with programs that show her strengths. I think her Tosca program should be kept for next season. I like Misha's work better than Wilson's for her. If she hadn't bombed her short program she could have been Senior #1!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Melissa Towner to be fair, Eteri seems critical of some things while ignoring others completely.

@melissatowner8556

5 жыл бұрын

That is true.

@orangewedges

5 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, this pretty much matches up with what Orser said in an interview at the GPF in Vancouver. He mentioned that when Evgenia first got to TCC, she "did not know how to train on her own" since she was so used to being told how to do everything in the past, so it makes sense that she would ask for more direction from him or for him to be more critical.

RE: Evgenia's 2Axel: the past two competitions when she's had issues with it, she's done what skaters refer to as "whaxels", shifting the pressure of balance point to the mid- to back point of the blade rather than rolling off the toe. The axel seems to be a great jump for her lately, so much so that she chooses to use it in combos. I was so surprised when she faltered on it the first time & then for her to have the exact same error on it at Russian Nationals really surprised me.

I don’t even know what is going on with Alina, I just hope she’s okay and doesn’t push too far. Completely agree w you on Zheyna, go back to basics! Definitely better but the edges and spins could be so much better. At the end of the day Eteri makes me laugh, Brian makes me confused sometimes, and Tarasova is an ICON!!! (Since neither of you take Sasha, I’ll taker her lol)

I'm with Jonathan on Zhenya for the most part. Dave I agree with you that Brian was overly optimistic about what could be accomplished in one year, and that accounts for some not awesome decisions (and unnecessarily thwarted expectations). But I also agree with Jonathan (and Brian's current party line) which is that such a massive reworking of a technique that was designed for disposable (to Eteri) pre-pubescent bodies is simply going to take time. And I think Russians nats was, at the end of the day, a big step forward for Zhenya. I am not in any way happy that Zagitova imploded so badly, but I think it gave Zhenya a real look at what the counterfactual would have been and I suspect that will keep her going. She's at least in a place that might provide her the tools necessary for longevity, which Zagitova clearly isn't. If she has the will I think both she and Team Orser have the talent necessary to build on this year and I would bet money that she will stay in the mix and come back roaring next year. She certainly seems to have had her spirits raised at the end of the day. And that sal/ loop was really cool.

@erinsheley

5 жыл бұрын

Actually I also agree with Dave that they need to be structuring a program (with Rach etc.) that is designed to get her out of Russia. Unlike Zagitova I think Zhenya has the potential to get huge scores on components if they spend more time on them. I wonder if skating with Jason will help along those lines, especially with the new judging criteria. I really, really hope the mother doesn't pull her back. I think that would be a disaster at this point; the die has been cast and she needs to finish the course of antibiotics at this point!

@elccollins99

5 жыл бұрын

galadriel02138 I agree. Also, if Zhenya’s mother wanted her to leave Brian, who would coach her? The most prominent senior ladies coaches in Russia other than Eteri are Bouyanova (she has a big team already) and Mishin (he already has 2 senior ladies).

@jellyblob5600

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 but who would spend more time with Zag? Eteri looks to be done with Zag and is more interested in her up and coming batch of girls for the next season. Unless Zag leaves Eteri for a better coach, she doesn't seem to have the potential Evgenia has at this point. Also, Zag's posture is becoming increasingly 'hunchy' and she skates a lot slower than she used to with poorer ice coverage than many of the other girls in the competition. Evgenia on the other hand looks to be improving in terms of skating skills. While the improvement is minute, you can see that she's skating faster with better ice coverage than she used to. So all in all, at this point, Evgenia looks to have more potential in the future while Zag's future in skating looks painfully short. I really do hope Zag finda a better coach for herself. She needs it.

@alexanderbakulin8836

5 жыл бұрын

galadriel02138 what is exacltly a techinque that " designed for disposable (to Eteri) pre-pubescent bodies"? is there any secret technique that only eteri knows? how this technique is different from any other? i just can't from how all this technical specialists commenting on technique from their kitchens .

@alexanderbakulin8836

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 of course i've heard already this idiotic theory pushed by TSL that there is two types of jumps, those that "related on rotation" (bad technique, dissappering after the puberty) and those that related on strength and height (good technique, sustainable, lasting forever). it's beyong laughable. first of all, you can't just teach the height or rotation speed. it mostly depends on athlete natural physical abilities (so it's hardly a coach responsibility either the technique "good" or "bad") . the second of all tyktameshvea on her 3A has the same rotation speed that trusova has on her quads. many of senior men are rotating faster than trusova, and the skater with the fastest rotation speed in the world is actually coached by brian orser. his name is stephen gogolev and he has 6.5 rps on his quads (in comparison to trusova 5.5.-5.6 rps). third. trusova jumps higher than many of the senior men. here's a 63 cm high 4T for example kzread.info/dash/bejne/l35nqdipfcvFk6g.html it's bigger than the average height of chen (60cm), hanyu (61 cm), or fernandez (58 cm) 4T. although it doesn't mean that it's the best technique in the world that will last forever. we have plenty of examples how the ladies with enormously big jumps (vivian le, karen chen, polina tsurskaya) are struggling. and we have a plenty of examples of skaters who had a long and succesuful career with tiny jumps that relying on rotation speed (most of american skaters actually, including michelle kwan) in the russian skating community we have a term "puberty witnesses". it describes people who are making such idiotic statements about "rotation speed" etc. they are considered crazy and religious fanatics, who never bothered to study any actual data or numbers about the jumps. but i guess in american community it's ok to be ignorant. you call yourself a "competitive skater" after all, and still saying such a crazy nonsense about some special technique that eteri is teaching. while there is videos on youtube with dudakov master classes (he's a main jumping coach in eteri team). and any person who is interested and knows something about skating can watch it and see for yourself that the things that dudakov is teaching is no different from any other good coach in the world. but it's too much to expect from the people like TSL that they are actually interested not in gossips, but in learning something about the jumps

I was happy to see the love the crowded gave to Evgenia. I have been curious how the Russian skating fans would react to her. I found the Eteri interview to be cringy. Although I totally respect the way Ted covers the JGP, I do believe an interviewer can ask pointed questions without being rude, and instead he just gave a fluff piece. Happy Holidays to you and Jonathan!

I am really surprised you didn’t have TAT as your thumbnail - that picture when she is crying 😂

Omg I love y'all..i have been anxiously waiting for this...

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

same here! so excited!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

John Wilson Blades' interview with Orser. He talks about the extra time he had to spend with Medeveda and the meeting that led to her coming to him. Plus, Orser looked terrified at the SP. He seemed devastated. I don't think he had a clue as to the amount of negativity and pressure it was to reconstruct a Russian female world champion. I hope she gives him another year to work on him.

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I think the question actually works in reverse, will he give her another season? I think yes, another season, but not more.

@oFribble

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-yj6wo8bf9m I dont know. He's got his pride on the line too. Otherwise this will go down in history. Yea, Medvedeva was the first Russian figure skater to train with a non Russian coach and look what happened. Failure from both the coach and student. Don't think he will give up that easily for his sake, if not for hers.

Alena has said that she grew so much over the summer that she can’t do it anymore! She also said that when she did do it, it wasn’t consistent and the one they recorded took many tries. They’ve decided to wait until next summer to try again.

I wish they brought up Tarakanova... I really like her skating and her PCS was a joke.

Justice for 3 Nastia's! As for Alina's programs, i have some name suggestions: -Carmen under 4 minutes/Carmen for busy people -Gleikh being a total ballet fanboy( i bet he sees Vishneva's Carmen whenever he sleeps) -Child abuse. There are so many people talking about Alina being injured(other than the GPF accident) but Russian Federation still wanted her to compete. If it's the case at least her coaches should've helped her by taking some of the crazy movements out of her program(s). It was so painful to watch her and no one is helping, geez!

The only reason Kostornaya didn't win is because she tripped over in the short. If she hadn't she would have won by two points. And that's only if we keep her PC's the same, which most likely would have been higher as well. Both Eteri and Alena will know this.

@jaimevicars937

5 жыл бұрын

I never get comments like this...if she hadn't tripped. Well ...she did trip, so what's your point? I mean, we could do what ifs on any of them, but it's pointless. They did what they did, and their scores reflect that.

@kcesca

5 жыл бұрын

@@jaimevicars937 Maybe watch the video, yeah? Maybe then you will get comments like this. I personally don't understand comments from people who don't watch the videos but comment anyway. Some might assume they are bored in life and have nothing better to do than look for a fight in the comment section of yourltube. Or you did watch and are just really dumb and all points go over your head. Pick one.

@AnaGarcia-bb7qj

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 it is not about messages, it is about reward the girl who skated the best. By the way, it was obvious that they wanted Alina or Evgenia win, their pcs were really high, but both failed, so they had to reward the junior girls.

@comment6864

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Well skating skills haven't been winning anything for the past several years, so that's nothing new

On the kosrtonaya situation: I do prefer her technique to the other girls but she has a bit of a leg wrap issue, I think perhaps that's what's stopping her from doing the 3A?

Yaaaaay, this and that !!! I agree so much on Evgenia. Also rooting for her like a crazy person

Idk, I really Zhenya's long programm! Just because I think she sells it. Even with this difficult music. And! Because I think it'll help her grow artistically, like, it's new, smth new, not some piano-sad-instrumentals, where you can be "so light and beautiful" with your skating, but it's a little step forward. On her skating skills, well imo you went too hard on her xD I mean, she's improved, and it's obvious. She's getting there, it might take time. But she needs to work on it. I mean, what you said was true, but if only you added that it's better than before, that would be more fair. As for Alina, with that technique she's not gonna last. Un-effing-fortunately. Her spins are beautiful, possibly the best ones among russian ladies. I cn't talk much about her, everything else you said here or in your previous talks - I simply agree on. I'm super upset about her knee situation, and Daniil said something about trying quds? wtf??? In that state of health. And it seems to me, that spins are easier for her (and for other girls) because she is a natural skater, unlike evgenia. Like, her body type is more prone to it. Loved Misha's comeback (sort of). He was there, yes, but couldn't pit his programs together. I HOPE he'll be able to skate like that (at least) or even better for the rest of the season. he's got talent for sure. That was a tough one to watch. Because the topic is hot! As always, thanks for the upload.

Spasiba! Russian nats is the Xmas gift that keeps on giving. Looking forward to the Japanese nationals recap, too. I Liked what Jonathan said about the coaching situation getting results or keeping your soul. Hope there is a happy medium somewhere.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Mishin actually kinda let the cat out of the bag (or just tried to keep Liza's momentum alive in the press, idk) by saying that RusFed instructed him to prep Liza for Worlds. Hence, your prediction of Konstantinova bombing at Euros and being replaced by Tuktamysheva is likely to come true.

@ioanabdr9877

5 жыл бұрын

I have this feeling Liza will go to Worlds and that was the intention from the get go, but she still has to recover and be ready. I think she will go.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

on a completely unrelated note, Dave, I love your impression of Natasha, she seems like a lot of Russian women I've met in my day😆 And of course, she loves Samarin, of fucking course😁

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I believe Tukta is definitely in the Worlds, although it will be Samodurova to miss it, not Konstantinova, because you cannot not send Konstantinova who placed highest as a senior, in the sense that you cannot judge who you send by whether they bomb Euros, these decisions are made based on nationals. Also, Konstantinova does have a chance to podium at Euros, but among Russians, only Tukta and Alina can podium at Euros if these Japanese bomb and Russians skate clean.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

+Bojana Kocijan nah, the team for Worlds is not decided based on nationals, only the team for Euros.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

+Ioana Bdr yeap

Oh, thanks so much for uploading! The competitions are over for me only after I watch your videos :D Thanks again and happy holidays!

@nvadqs

5 жыл бұрын

Same here! Hahah

Rach 2 would be perfect for Medvedeva! Or anything but Shostakovich. The girl needs her drama.

@tb4522

5 жыл бұрын

Did you ever find the Eteri doc with English subtitles?

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

She does. It will help her.

@tb4522

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Definitely.

Not being an FS expert even I saw a big change in Evgenia this time, esp. in the practice sessions, esp. the morning before the free skate. It was spectacular, geat and it starts to show what an enormous work is being done with teamOrser. I am sure that Brian is the best thing that could have happened to her ever. Everything that happens, happens for a reason, everything has its meaning. Even the disaster with the SP turned out to be beneficial as it was a demonstration of unparalleled love and devotion of her native fan crowd. I can't think of a better remedy for her mental problems. Though it is a roller coaster for the nerves, poor Brian, he'll turn grey or get a heart attack with these students)))) I think you shouldn't underestimate Ms. Medvedeva. And as for the quad girls - let's wait and see what they can deliver while growing.

Regarding Kostornaia's triple Axel, she said in her post-win interview at the JGP Final that she lost the triple Axel after growing in recent months.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

yeap, and for now she is focusing on doing her current technical content cleanly. I believe she may work on getting the 3 axel back in the midseason; after all Tuktik was able to get it back after a couple of years of body transformations and both of them have similarly killer double axels.

@tramdang7011

5 жыл бұрын

@@aidaaman1742 the most important thing help Liza gets back her 3A is her coach is Mishin. Mishin teach her how to do a jumps with pure technique. Unluckily, Alena's coach is Eteri who doesn't know how to teach her students do a proper basic jumps much less do a high level jump as 3A.

@aidaaman1742

5 жыл бұрын

+Trâm Đặng you are right, that sucks

Again, I have the two last tests of Law School, december 26 and 27 😂😂😂 (I live in Chile and we are like that lol) and you guys upload the “This and that” that I’ve been waiting all year, this only means I will have to study on christmas eve, but again I have never clicked so fast. Happy holidays to the skating community, and thank you for all your work to dave and jonathan.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Jorge Lara Merry Christmas and good luck!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Buena suerte!

@pandatours

5 жыл бұрын

Jorge Lara TSL helped get me through law school! Dave and Jenny were like my friends lol.

Also Dave your Russian accent is so on point ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Justyna Żółkiewska I immersed myself this weekend. If I’m surrounded by it, it all comes so easily. If I’m away from it, it is a mess.

I remember Doug Haw saying that Spins only take 20 minutes of practice a day. Why didnt they have practice spins, unless she was injured. Also, really surprised that Brian thought Zenya could be World Champ this season. Was there a point in which he changed his prediction.

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I guess it become obvious as the season took off. I am really no expert of skating, but when I saw her at her first event this season when she lost to Bradie Tennell, I knew she won't qualify for anything this year. So, if I as a non-expert knew that, then these people who understand skating should have known it as well.

@gulerismayil8058

5 жыл бұрын

S J he has to say it like that, you know? what should he say? i think my skater is not gonna qualify for anything this year? Brian always praises his skaters

@calisteve2023

5 жыл бұрын

@@gulerismayil8058 The way Dave stated it, I got the impression that Brian really believed this to be true.

Spins perhaps more than anything come down to muscle memory and the body’s ability to withstand the force generated by the spin. The growth in Evgenia’s bust has significantly altered this dynamic. She is still learning the new muscle memory that her new body requires.

I think Evgenia went to Brian to become a Kim. Who could blame her; Kim in her hay-day was glorious to watch. But, I don't think you can just imitate another skater. If Med is going to continue she's going to have to identify what works for her. Maybe spend 2 years trying for a 3A. Or, if she's capable becoming a Kostner or Myahara. Right now her jumps still have a mule kick. This won't be a quick fix.

Couldn’t sleep after this weekend and this came out just in time

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Cara Ryder melatonin!

Been waiting on this one!!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Minah Braun hope you enjoy it!

Now that you mention it I’d have preferred Med go to Raff but she made her choice and she’ll have to live with it for at least another season or two.

@artemisadelaluna9901

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly think that Evgenia went to Brian mostly because of Yuzuru...

@user-rb8nj5rj6m

5 жыл бұрын

@@artemisadelaluna9901 Non.

Kostornaya has said herself that she lost the 3A due to changes and growth in her body, but that she knows that she needs to up her tech content especially for her debut senior season next year. She said after these nationals that she’s working on getting back. Shcherbakova skated great and loved how she redeemed herself from the JGPF, but the two main problems I have with her are: 1. her sickled feet, 2. her picking in her toe jumps...it’s...interesting... otherwise she’s great

why is no one mentioning the fact that zagitova’s weight is starting to be concerning? once u start to disappear eteri has a tendency to tell u to not eat, same thing happened to evgenia last season. alina seems to have lost quite a few pounds compared since the russian test skates. in some pictures off the ice alina looks scary thin. her body uses to be compact and muscular, i wonder how she even manages to will herself through her jumps especially with all the injuries

@jychoi5026

5 жыл бұрын

actually at GPF she was standing next to Liza and their legs are basically the same size. And bear in mind Liza has gotten a lot of shit from people saying she's 'fat'. Alina's the size of an average skater. She looks thin because she's grown tall. Alina herself said the team is trying to get her to gain more so she has strength for her jumps. If you compare during test skates and now, she looks more or less the same. Her EX costume is a pretty good indicator of how she appears. She also has talked about cooking recipes, and she sneaks chocolates and carbonated drinks when they're supposed to be eating clean. Don't write your own narratives.

@olgapizzolato3406

5 жыл бұрын

Alina said in interview that she doesn't drink fluids to keep her weight down.

@AnaGarcia-bb7qj

5 жыл бұрын

What? look at this picture instagram.com/p/BruwJJ5nq9p/ Alina looks healthier than Evgenia for example. And consider that Alina is 16 yo vs Evgenia 19 yo, and lets not compare her with Satoko.

@leahmcconnell3600

5 жыл бұрын

And that's backwards thinking because drinking a lot of water actually can help you lose weight. These skaters should talk about food with nutritionists not Soviet skating coaches.

@faberina1936

5 жыл бұрын

Olga Pizzolato several athletes avoid drinking fluids 1-2 days since the fluids would make you bloat and wouldn’t really help much

Merry Christmas and thank you, guys!✨

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Aida Aman Merry Christmas!

Johnathan looks really cute in this one. Something about the button up and loosened tie. Like he's overworked and ready for a beer and stretching out in the hotel bed.

Liza and Stasya were selected to go to Universidade. Evgenia is 1st alternate. I get why Liza was chosen (to get ready for Worlds) but why do you think Stasya was? Seeing that she already is going to Euros and likely Worlds. I was hoping Evgenia could that spot she could have another chance to compete under a little less pressure.

@guardianofthegalaxy2051

5 жыл бұрын

Melissa Towner is evgenia university student? Universiade is for student only right?

@annystasia

5 жыл бұрын

@@guardianofthegalaxy2051 she is)

I look forward to these every week! Thank you for being honest and always keeping it real lol 😂

Sorry girls but with that sass, sleek tie, and scruffy beard Johnathan is my Russian Champion

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Vincent Taylors He is single. Slide into his DMs! I

@cal.e.fornya

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe we could even watch Duke basketball together

@khorkina2010

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan is so handsome!

@a9029k

5 жыл бұрын

And so articulate

@meltemt0245

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I find him so handsome too

Dave/Jonathan - I don't think I've EVER LAUGHED HARDER at the 17 seconds after 17:31. The smug look on Dave's face while Jonathan is talking, and the FACECRACK of Jonathan when Dave says "Brian thought [Zhenya] was going to win Worlds this year". BWAHAHAHAHAAH!! :-) Christmas came early!

I was waiting for thisssss

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

MJ Cabeza

Happy I could watch this year's recap, cause last year's one was blocked in Russia.

Urgh Trusova's 4T is shocking - it's a toe 3A! The step up with her right knee was so obvious. Any the 4Lz takes off forward from the blade so it's an inside 3A!

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Bailey the inside 3A doesn’t make sense, but it is an improper take off -2 off of GOE.

@benbailey159bb

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson By inside 3A I mean when she does the "4Lz" she takes off forward from the right blade - so it's a triple version of an inside axel that takes off from a RFI edge

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Bailey nyet, spasiba. But it is definitely an improper takeoff.

@TressBraga

5 жыл бұрын

I really couldn't agree with you more. I've been saying this all along: all of Eteri's girls have CHEATED entrances on their lutzes and flips. For me, they're all glorified loop jumps.

@benbailey159bb

5 жыл бұрын

@@TressBraga Yeah I love quads but it annoys me when everyone raves about their "quads" - I prefer Elizaveta Tuktamysheva's 3A and proper jumping technique.

Mishin stated that RusFed ordered him to get Tuktamysheva ready for worlds championships. She will be there for sure. They still will look at her at Universiada, but it seem everyone agrees that she is the one to compete with Rika Kihira. Threexels war is going to be something to watch.

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

Tukta's programs are no match to Kihiras.

You are interpretating so much wrong. Eteri spend time with Alina, because she was very weak. She loves all of her girls, esspecially Aljona. Sasha is Dudakov's fave, not hers, really not. Just watch Russians junior competition. You seem really to be jealous about Eteri and this is not really nice.

Some of the people in these comments need legit help, every episode they comment how much they hate this show and my only real question is why the hell do you still watch. Other news Jonathan your still bae, handsome as ever. I kinda disagree about medo her free program really put a smile on my face (at least towards the end,) Another great episode guys. Also dave I kinda want to rant about some of Jackie wong's tweet about how it basically doesn't matter if the girls can't do the jumps later to just celebrate them now. I feel like you would understand why I am so annoyed

Wasn't Max Trankov who prepared Tarasova/Morozov for the nationals, it was Nina Mozer, he was busy with the shows right before the nationals and he needed someone to be with them so he asked Nina Mozer to step in. So she had them exclusively to herself for about a week or so.

In light of all this, I don't understand even more how Medvedeva won every single competition for 2 years and even broke records at most. Was her technique really THAT much better? It is all so confusing. Especially because i almost always preferred Kostner's skating, and could never really get that much out of Medvedeva's skates, inspite of all the mimicry, body twisting, arm waving and all that. Kostner's oneness with the music just was so superior to me. Even her jumps seemed technically more solid somehow and Medvedeva's more rickety and heavy, even though she consistently landed them. But part of me thought there must be something i'm not getting. Now i'm getting the creepy sensation that i was right all along, but i'm still bewildered how she could gotten all those record breaking scores. Was it all fake in a way??

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I am just a fan of skating, really no expert, and I also wonder how Med won and broke all those records with such a bad technique? Anyone?

@keikoyamada27

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. She’s overhyped and overscored. Watch now.... it seems it’s happening again. getting over 60s in a short program with no combination jump (not even a triple- double) fell on a 2axel.

@comment6864

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-yj6wo8bf9m I thought about it and i think i might know the answer - it was never any secret that she was gaining points by backloading her programs - i think all jumps except one were always in the second half of the program, just like what Zagitova was doing. I believe ISU recently changed this, but at the time it was making these skaters unbeatable. Secondly - the arm over the head on almost all jumps. This was racking up the points as well. Nobody else in the world at this point was doing that. I think now younger skaters everywhere have picked up on the arm thing. Interestingly I think Medvedeva has said that that way of jumping is actually very comfortable for her, so i'm not sure i fully understand what those extra points are all about. One thing that bothered me about her jumps is that they never looked very high, which kind of left a blah impression, as compared to Osmond's jumps, or even Kostner's somehow looked more impressive. But i guess height does not affect GOE all that much. The other way she gained is I think what everyone calls transitions. I still don't quite understand what that is, but i think it is all that body twisting and arm flailing that you see in between the jumps and other more obvious elements. The Russian skaters all do more one-footed skating than anyone else, whereas their two-footed looks a little bit labored. But this apparently gets points too, not sure in what category. North American skaters were at the time all quite two-footed, though their skating looks to me more fluid and fast, more organic and natural. From what i can tell from the new and upcoming juveniles and juniors all of these things they are starting to catch up with, but it may take some time for that big once in a lifetime star to appear. But where are the Brittish, French, Germans.. I have no idea. Russia and Japan is it, but Europe seems to have completely lost interest in the sport and is not even trying to compete. or maybe have much say in the scoring. One interesting thing i've heard is that the scoring system is the way it is largely not due to the Russians, but to n. Americans! Way back when the Russians were not considered all that technical but more artistic and making the scoring more technically oriented was maybe thought to return the emphasis to the other style more and remove the pressure of the Russian skating quality that was impressing audiences and judges. But this has come back to bite everyone in ways they never thought possible!! :)). Not sure how accurate this is or where i heard/read it, but does sound plausible. What next? Who knows. But one thing's for sure, this sport is always changing like crazy.

@user-qn1ly4wg8y

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-yj6wo8bf9m Maybe because her technique aside from fluts and 2A, wasn't bad? She can't be overscored by ALL judges form all over the world, that just doesn't make sense

@user-qn1ly4wg8y

5 жыл бұрын

Why are you wondering? Get their protocols, compare them and find out yourself.

Best Christmas present ever 🎄🎁 thank you guys !!!

Why don't Tiffany and Jonathan skate for Australia? I just don't get it. It is an uphill battle in Russia, whereas I think they could be more stars if skating from elsewhere.

@oFribble

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe less opportunities, resources, and political ties.

@tb4522

5 жыл бұрын

@@oFribble i see less training opportunities, but don't you think Australia would throw money at having someone in the top 10 in something in skating? Couldn't they still train in Russia?

Thank you for the early Christmas present 💜💜

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

durcheinander You’re welcome!

John Wilson did a good interview with Brian Orser before the Russian nationals. He talks in-depth about Medvedeva.

Medvedeva would do well as the Adam Rippon of Russia, ie super clean, super well-executed, really high GOE. That look would suit her and be very successful, I suspect. That tango didn't suit her at all.

I'm curious: what music should Kostornaia skate to?

The Eteri tea Dave didn’t wanna spill I learned through the comments - and boy am I scandalized! Was not expecting that

Eteri’s daughter is from Buyanovas husband. It’s a known fact for most Russians. That’s why their competition between each other still continues. Russian newspapers and magazines and online web sites in Russian talk about it a lot

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I think you are wrong, her dad is American.

@user-vi2iw3dy9p

5 жыл бұрын

That’s what Russian media is saying. Newspapers magazines media etc But I don’t know for sure 100% of coarse

@user-vi2iw3dy9p

5 жыл бұрын

If you Google both of their last names in Russian language A lot of information will come up (Tutberidze, Buyanova)

@alexanderbakulin8836

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-vi2iw3dy9p stop lying. no one is saying it, besides handful of crazy medvedeva fans on sports.ru. there's not a single article in any russian media about this "well known" fact. and i really doubt that buyanova herself ever heard of that

@10skyblue

5 жыл бұрын

Секрет Успexa Heard the same story about Bujanova and Goncharenko ( former coach of Elena Radionova). I am pretty sure that Verner wrote about it on his site.

It seem the quality of the reviews this year is improving a lot, you two are more into facts and less personnal opinions, there's still here of course but not in first. This super appreciable ! Watching you it's like watching figure skating from the outside. It help a lot to take distance from what's happening when sometime fanbase are overeactive.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of overreactive fans. It helps to have distance. Having Japanese Nationals after Russian Nationals was so helpful. The level of crazy fans was far less.

Orser was the only non russian in the building this week

@allieivanova7685

5 жыл бұрын

And he was very welcome!

As always, enjoyed your talk 😊 But disagree with u on dance competitions. Very impressed by sinitsina and Katsalapov this season. Definitely not boring... On the contrary exciting, quality performance) and the short dance is simply amazing . I think, it’s better than sp of my favourite Papadakis cizeron . 🤷‍♀️ As for Bukin & stepanova they are too mechanical ...and uninteresting , even though their programs are sort of in your face 😉

Russian Nationals without Tat would be so sad. Although I like Match TV people with Bobrova for dance too (she and her friend have some hilarious moments). I like when Tat is so in to skaters and she’s with S/B and she was so dead inside during the GPF after their skate. She said sth like that - what were the levels? Oh I knew it. Ilia Averbukh opinion about P/C was interesting too. Also Bobrova and her friend were hilarious too - he was like oh don’t even get me started about them, don’t provoke me. And Bobrova said that - I don’t think Guilliame’s steps there were clean and I could see it with the naked eye. Yet they got lvl4. But it’s irritating the same time because some people consider her this crazy ass grandma who loves skating. And they totally skip the part when she also bodyshames the skaters.

Duke basketball is my guilty pleasure too Jonathan!! First is skating, of course :)

I don’t see how Medvedeva isn’t over.. I am a huge fan and I am extremely disheartened. She doesn’t get to go to europeans, she doesn’t get to go to worlds and supposedly she will redeem herself next year?? Next year when the Eteri girls will be seniors? I guarantee you even if they don’t land quads they will be far better, far fresher and much more hyped than her. Also this is zagitovas last season for certain.

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

I would also think that, although I think only Kostornaia can become senior next year, the other two are currently 14, so they become seniors in 2 years. But, next year, there will be Anna Tarusina in seniors, who already skated better than Medvedeva at this nationals, but wasn't so graciously scored. There are also few junior girls who are prospective, Gubanova, Vasileva, Gulyakova. So, next year we need to see what happens to Konstantinova, Samodurova, Zagitova, Tuktamisheva, maybe they can continue for another season. If Zagitova somehow stabilizes her growth, maybe she can be competitive next year, but if she isn't., then she lasted less than Med. But, I definitely see Kostornaia and Tarusina next year top in Russia. And, I also see the next two seasons in Russia being cemented by these 16 yr olds in the senior group.

@alexandralisogor7272

5 жыл бұрын

Bojana Kocijan As I understand, you need to be 15yo by July 31 to be eligible for the next season. Kistornaia’s birthday is in August that’s why she still competes in juniors this year. Next season, however, all three girls will be age eligible to complete in senior ranks.

@pamela7297

5 жыл бұрын

Evgenia isn't over for the same reason Tuktamysheva wasn't over after she didn't qualified for GPF, Europeans & Worlds for 3 years in a row. Evgenia already won everything besides OGM, her goal is to go to the next Olympics. Thank God you're not an athlete you wouldn't last, bc if you don't get the results you want in one season you will be, I guess my time is over.

@user-yj6wo8bf9m

5 жыл бұрын

@@pamela7297 how will Evgenia and even Alina qualify for anything next season if these juniors like the comment above states become seniors? Imagine the Eteri trio competed in senior group this year? Than all three seniors including Zagi and Tukta would be "over" as they wouldn't qualify. See, the issue here is that you might be good, or having a good season, but if you compete against these young seniors, there is lil chance. So, this will determine who is in next few seasons. This said, Evgenia might come next season much stronger, but does she stand a chance against the trio? If she does come back stronger, will that be enough?

@user-rb8nj5rj6m

5 жыл бұрын

astreqwerty, In Russia, all are confident that without medvedeva and Tuktamyshevoj, at the European Championships, on a pedestal will only Zagitova. This means that we will lose one quota to the World Championship.

Do you all speak Russian? How can you understand what is said in the kiss in cry and what Tatasova is saying? Is there a translation somewhere? It is the best soap on TV.!

"she had a break up with skating" This recap is my Christmas present

Oh please do the "tree" of judges ( with each camp)...I think it would be informative! Hehe, anyway enjoyed listening to TSL, keep it up!

First one! Thanks!

The link for the judging guide does not appear to be working

You should interview Eteri

@alemomela

5 жыл бұрын

yea, it would be great. But Eteri very rarely agrees for interview. And "skating lesson" is not so much popular media.

Can someone link the eteri interview?

Also funny how they didn't really give a damn about Anna Shcherbakova as you said, eteri didn't even go to the kiss and cry with her and now, in 2022 at the Olympics she wins gold 💀

I have a tonne of love and respect for Ted Barton, but I was disappointed in his interview too. He more than anyone should be aware of what is happening to these young ladies as they grow up.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

Chelsea R. Respect, yes.

@ascott2264

5 жыл бұрын

yes t'm sure they would be much better off eating Mcdonalds and living on instagram like the rest of the fuckin world.

@Frooti.loopz23

5 жыл бұрын

@@ascott2264 What??? What are you talking about?

OMG, you are the best , love the video perfect for the holydays

Ah finally!! got my hot coco ready just for this

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

tired-fairy enjoy!

She was obvious about the brian thing.

@TheSkatingLesson

5 жыл бұрын

joanne olsen she is rarely subtle.

@lauraquinto3020

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. She wasn't subtle. She was too obvious and literal, like her programmes. (-5 for me).

@lauraquinto3020

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Okay. Maybe some people have comprehension issues. Come on. It was too obvious.

@DD-d6d3

5 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 you're possibly not listening closely

@yunilius7193

5 жыл бұрын

@@DD-d6d3 Lol the guy always think he's right don't mind it, people who follow their story will find it super obvious haha

Please do the tree of judging panels🙏🏼

Yeah waiting for this video❤️❤️

I'm most heartbroken about Polina Tsurskaya. Unfortunately her health and bone condition probably won't allow her to skate much longer. I'm just thankful for the performances (like the unforgettable SP at NHK 2017) we've gotten so far and will miss her skating. :(

Wow Dave, usually I agree with Jonathan more but this week, you are so spot on Zhenya! Very impressed! Thank you for this video and well deserved LIke from me!

Kostornaya’s 3A is not there yet. It’s not consistent enough so they will not push it this season and they will try to practice this off season.

What did you think about Artur Dmitriev going for 4A? There doesn't seem to be a video of him actually landing it in practice so why try it in competition???

I like Ted's kindness towards juniors, but his interview with Eteri was such a disgrace.This "Thank you for what you are!" thing was over the top sweet, sticky in such an obvious way! It seem Eteri made hard conditions for the interview before it started, like don't ask about injuries, don't talk about longevity and of cause not a word about Medvedeva. And Ted was happy to comply avoiding any uncomfortable question. Very disappointing.

What’s the link for the Jutta Meuller documentary ( subtitled)?

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