Nice to see someone pushing an older camera instead of the latest gear on KZread that we all "must have." Fight the Gear Acquisition Syndrome and go create 💪🏻

@Mid20studio

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@ASHFILMS1138

2 жыл бұрын

I love my old reliable equipment. I know it, and it works with me. I'll use it till I wear it out. Get the right stuff and stay with it until the upgrade will suit you for 5-10 years.

@AnimeZone247

2 жыл бұрын

imagine if everyone thinks like that, then companies wouldn't be innovative

@SeaUrchinFilms

2 жыл бұрын

This video actually triggers my "G.A.S.", now I want to buy this Red!

@silentwitness536

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and that fear filmmakers have of refusing to buy something because the next big thing is around the corner. Otherwise known as "spec hysteria".

Old Cinema camera reviews are the besttttt!!!

@dslrvideoshooter

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks George!

I just want one as a prop.

@GeorgeDemner

2 жыл бұрын

Would just pop one in the background for clout

@retrochill6527

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah waste money for no reason. There’s way better options today.

@dslrvideoshooter

2 жыл бұрын

Love their body design and the elaborate emblems are so sick!

@impatrickt

2 жыл бұрын

@@retrochill6527 wasting money for no reason is how I built my empire

@rjcine4181

2 жыл бұрын

@@impatrickt lol I just realized you’re the guy I unsubbed from a while back. “Empire”. Dude please.

Hi from Spain ! I’ve been using lot of cameras in my work (production company) like GH5, A7s2, Arri Mini and also another RED cameras… But this camera in particular, has something special. The colors, the grain, the tones and something that every person that got one, doesn’t know how to explain it. Still working with Scarlet X, I got one the last month and feels amazing.

Fantastic video! Thanks Caleb. That sensor is beautiful! Loved the quality of the end results.

That was fun to watch! Thanks for making the video Caleb :)

Always excited to listen what you share :D this is awesome!

Great review as always. Thanks a million Caleb. Thanks for all the content, not sure you know how many times you've helped out. Have a nice day.

OMG Finally someone doing videos about this Jewel of Camera!!! Thank you soo Much bro!!

I'm more interested in those Meike lenses you have. There is hardly any talk about those lenses and I'd love to hear your thoughts on them!

@HonJazzz

2 жыл бұрын

Same! They look great 👍🏻

@arturomonterroso8277

2 жыл бұрын

Check out CVP, they've done some reviews on them.

@OneScenePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

just bought and tested 24m today, worth a look forsure, first difference from my rokinon is in the shadows, much more detail captured in the shadows

I've been using my RED Scarlet-W Dragon 5K for almost 5 years now and it still kicks ass!

For april fools day, I feel like Caleb is the type to put up a no-nonsense full review and comparison of like a current red camera filming 8k red raw to like a sony mini-dv tape 720p handicam from the early 2000s. I would fully watch that.

The usual great content! Kudos!

Those red volts are still handy to keep the camera powered up while you're hot swapping v-mounts or gold mount bricks. Can also be achieved with a shark fin.

@entenfilm

2 жыл бұрын

I have a built-in battery for hot-swapping v-mounts on every camera kit I own. Most convenient and easy options in my opinion.

I know he mentions several downsides, but I want to mention more for those actually considering purchasing an older RED. I will start by mentioning some of the ones he said again. -Media is a pain and relatively expensive/ hard to source last minute. -They are LOUD. -And noise is something you will be fighting even in semi-controlled environments. On top of that, -REDs are known for being notoriously unreliable and they have since stopped servicing this era of camera. -The early X and MX cameras have a very wonky color matrix. I know he likes the image out of camera and that's totally fine, but if you ARE into color grading, you'll notice this as you start to learn more and more. -And they have really started to show their age from a usability standpoint. They are sluggish and weird to navigate. If you are interested in buying an older cinema camera (in this price range), I'd look towards older Sony F series cameras like he mentions. Or if you would prefer going for something more modern, the ZCAM F6/S6 and Sony A7SIII/FX6 are great options although you might similarly have to deal with wonky color matrices. A really interesting video would be looking at some of the older cinema cameras you can get for under $10000 nowadays. The Alexa Plus, Sony F5 (or F55 if you can squeeze it), and Panasonic VariCam LT can all be had for well under $10000. These all would give unparalleled IQ for the money. And cameras like the F55 and Alexa Plus are still rentable unlike older REDs that go for less than $50 a day in LA.

@mq4oneseventyeight567

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestions! What do you mean a7iii fx6 would have wonky color wave?

@FTGTapGod

2 жыл бұрын

@@mq4oneseventyeight567 It's all relative. The new backlit sensor that Sony has in those cameras is fantastic. The difference between consumer/prosumer cameras and the industry standard cinema cameras is in the details. Color science is a very complex topic and it costs companies millions of dollars in rnd. The higher up the ladder you climb, the more a company tends to shift away from making the general population happy and the more they get to spend time caring about how a camera translates what's hitting the sensor. Gradations in skin tones, overall consistency, etc... There's diminishing returns spending that time on prosumer cameras. That's why some of those older cinema cameras are still so relevant today. That attention to detail is what makes them have such a pleasing and versatile look. Any prosumer camera is not going to have the same care for things like their color matrix. Even cameras made by cinema camera manufacturers like RED and Sony. The Komodo is a great example. Not a lot of attention to detail in that camera. I'll end this by saying the Sony prosumer cameras are great! Especially the FX6. Even though it's the same sensor, being able to turn off NR is huge and it would send me straight towards the FX6. If you are wanting something new to mitigate risk, you can't go wrong with it.

@lkptlst3256

2 жыл бұрын

There is no reason for Scarlet X lol. maybe video title is reason

@cobymarcum1442

2 жыл бұрын

Sony F5 owner here. Amazing camera. Affordable pre-owned. Amazing color. Still supported by Sony. PL mount with 4K upgrade and Netflix approved with 4K upgrade. 👍 I cannot shoot with old REDs due to their (possible) instability in narrative environments but older REDs do make a great image. 👍

@kamikaze1213

2 жыл бұрын

@@FTGTapGod except that most of these cameras have RAW capability and debayering happens AFTER the RAW data hits the NLE. So none of that makes any sense whatsoever unless you are implying that for the color matrix of in camera LOG codecs, so it’s not all relative. RAW doesn’t give a damn about what brand of camera you have or how much it cost. It’s not even a video. It’s literally RAW data.

Amazing video. Exactly what I was looking for.

My school was still using that through 2020 and it still kicked butt

Great post and thanks for giving this camera some love. The Scarlet MX was my first personal 4K sensor. Had many years with Canon XL-1, Sony Beta (insert two letters here) Pannies etc. Worked with a RED ONE but mostly post. I love this video since its brings back memories (sold it recently and moved up to a Dragon 6K) and also helping others find options. Hey if people can get work using 16mm and selling it as classic then why not the MX :)

absolutely love it - great vid i was mesmerized

this is so interesting, I am a total noob when it comes to cinema cameras but I really do want to get into it. thank you so much for making these vids and reviewing and talking about cinema gear, it's very educational

Can’t wait. Thanks for finding the awesome deals

@dslrvideoshooter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Great video as always! Are you going to do a video on the Meike FF primes?

!Great information thanks

I've been using RED since the RED ONE and thru its many iterations. Always either as rental packages, or production-house bought tools. I've never wanted to own one for the simple fact that even if I was given one, the ecosystem cost and pipe-line needs is too high. These cameras are exotic cars. But like exotic cars, they require allot of maintenance and that isn't cheap. The UI is pretty unresponsive, adapting them for various types of shoots is expensive, the data footprint is steep, the pipeline is cumbersome, and to be honest. Other manufactures are better featured, 70-80% the image quality, cheaper, and the ecosystem is budget friendlier. Recently shot a music video on an older RED Scarlet somebody trucked in. Major issues as the owner never kept up with servicing. It's a deal for the cost but its still a 3,000 dollar gamble.

@FrankValchiria

2 жыл бұрын

a canon c70 seems a great deal

@ohmss006

Жыл бұрын

It's been well documented that the whole camera and the company built around it is a *Scam* .

@nicholasboule5134

Жыл бұрын

What servicing needed to be done on the scarlet?

@RubenStuveling

5 ай бұрын

None if you treat it well. The only servicing I can think of is if you use the camera in extremely sandy, dusty or damp environments. Then it would need some professional cleaning, but this true for every camera which has active cooling. @@nicholasboule5134

I love these types of videos!

Great presentation, thanks!

1 of the best videos on cinema I've ever seen.

Thanks Caleb. It's a great help

If you want a very underrated camera to kit out for one of your videos, look at the Blackmagic Micro Cinema. Those Fairchild S16 sensors capture light so differently!

THOSE SKIN TONES!!! :D WOWZAZ! Incredible man. Thanks for another amazing video. I might actually try this myself.

Hmmm, interesting, because I sold mine (Red Scarlet) to buy the big boy Black Blackmagic Ursa when it first hit the market. I liked the Ursa way better. Definitely prefer the Pocket 6K. Less headache with the work flow. The Red system was a nightmare. I hated that camera. Glad to see someone enjoys it. Nice video though. Happy filming...

I looooove these old cinema camera reviews! It inspired me to look at older cameras and buy a c100mkii :)

Next camera review suggestion: Sony CineAlta F35. Once $200,000 -- now $3,000 because it's giant and "only" shoots 1080p. But the global shutter 5K CCD sensor creates amazing images.

@dslrvideoshooter

2 жыл бұрын

It is on the list!!!

@LarsZu

2 жыл бұрын

@@dslrvideoshooter Would Love to See the F23, with Zeiss Digi Primes. Used on Benjamin Button for example.

@EJNakamura

2 жыл бұрын

The price will shoot up. Make sure you buy one before he reviews it

@katlis

2 жыл бұрын

@@EJNakamura I was lucky to grab one about 3 years ago for $3,500 USD (with a monitor/recorder). I've since sold it, but I think Sony only made about ~200 F35s, so they are getting more rare by the day!

@EJNakamura

2 жыл бұрын

@@katlis wow. What made you sell it?

Red epic owner since 2013. Still love it more than my a7s3 and r5. I remember why I bought it every time I use it.

This was great, Caleb. Thanks.

Dang I agree, those old red sensors look much closer to film than most new ones IMO. Probably because that was when the industry was mainly using film and needed convincing that digital was a viable replacement. Btw just saw your 6k pro on gear focus haha

You had me at FireWire800 😆 Seriously though, I seriously looked into getting this camera before grabbing a C70. They’re so capable! Being locked into Red branded memory was the deal-breaker for me. - Ryan

Just got mine! Thanks for the video! Will there be a camera guide for this camera?

The MX sensor is a magical thing, it is so great with skin tone.

Amazing review, thank you! Where did you get that Scarlet Vmount cheese plate adapter from?? I have been looking for something like that for months.

Please, more review like this! And comparison with more modern cameras! Thanks

Love the video! I've been thinking about selling my Scarlet recently, since the Ursa mini Pro 12K has become my go-to camera these days, but damn, straight out of camera the Scarlet just looks fantastic. The images just look a little soft, but still have all the details that you need. I shot a wedding on the Scarlet and my A7SII a few years ago, so just available natural light, and I tell you no amount of color grading can get them to the same level in some situations. The footage from the Scarlet is some of the most beautiful shots I've ever gotten, and the A7SII just looked like a Home Video. As the sun set the story changes of course 😅 If you are thinking about getting a scarlet yourself, I have a playlist on my channel with some Videos I have shot on it.

@wildwestadventures3583

8 ай бұрын

Why do we need 12k or for that matter 6k? What is the benefit you see as a filmmaker

Best playlist on this channel - it’s very inspiring and I love the philosophy of « affordable cinema cameras ». Today the resolution war is utterly ridiculous and at the expense of the rugged, functional and reliable cameras.

I can’t believe in not subscribe to your channel. No joke I’ve been watching your videos for years now lol

thanks for the effort and sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. (and boy, are your kids bigger!) thumbs up.

@dslrvideoshooter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you smalltalk! Much appreciated :-)

Awesome video. This video is perfect as I just came into a 2013 Epic-M. But also have the power issue as the batteries are so old and barly hold a charge. One question for you. What is the plate adaptor you are using to mount the V-Mount battery plate to the back of the RED? I have several cheese plates but non that would work because the of the mounting hardware for the controller/battery module in the middle of the back.

Always great content ! We just see, MEIKE prime cine lens :D Tell us tell us in a dedicated videooo 💪🏻

I can’t wait for o see your Arri Alexa classic review!!

If I could I definitely would consider

We have 2 Scarlets MX - We use them to this day and the quality is amazing - We have received 28 awards for our films with them.

Wow. I barely used my RED Scarlet I bought in 2011. It's amazing it hear it talked about like a Dino. However, it's still the reason why I still love it. Hopefully I will shoot more with it again soon.

Interesting enough, I’ve actually used this camera, and compared it to my Pocket 4K. The Red’s sensor is quite nice. Far less noisy at lower apertures than the Pocket 4K. The Pocket 4K really only had it beat at high ISOs

Good afternoon. Really big fan of your channel. Quick question what brand the v mount adapter that you use to mount on the back of your red?

Dude your videos look great, mostly because of your lighting and colour grading of course. But I feel like you have learnt some tricks to make your videos look good on KZread when many of us struggle with the dreaded compression. Maybe make a video about what you've learnt? Would be great!

I love experiencing these older cinema cameras through and your money 😂

Hey m8, your videos are incredible and very informative. Is it possible you can make a video on building a rig for a canon rebel t7? Doesnt seem to exist anywhere on youtube. And might as well get the best of the best to try and make one. Cheers

Excellent video, thank you! One question: Where can I find Sony E - Lensmount for RedCams ? I want to avoid adapters. Is it possible that there are none ? Couldn't find anything.

Any plans to pick up an Alexa Classic EV? Seeing them list for around $3500 these days. Great video, by the way. Been looking forward to hearing your take on the Scarlet.

Love my Epic-X Dragon for more or less the same reasons, well said.

This is my next purchase...I absolutely love this model and the price as well

Awesome video! The RED seems to have more intense color banding. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks for the great video. It would be great to buy your bmpcc 6k :)

Disclaimer : this is not a video camera, this is a cinema camera. Meaning that it's not your run of the mill BMPCC6K or other camera. It's not made to be used like you describe, it needs loads of other accessories, spare SSD, batteries, monitors, motors, wireless device, etc... All of that in a proper cinema rig that is worked on by a minimum of 2 to 3 professional technicians at a time. Everything, even bolts cost a fortune, and maintenance needs professional technicians in the cinema industry or directly through RED. It's like buying a race car to go do groceries, yes it works, but really you need a proper team to do that. The big difference with cinema cameras is not just the image performance, it's the way they are used and design in the professional environment of a film set. Now that this is out of the way.... I've shot with this camera, and the biggest flaws are the noise and overall internal design. Even at it based ISO it shows quite a lot of noise, I'll recommend exposing it at 500ISO when it's possible. Then the other issues is just the RED DSCM1 series, it wasn't perfect ; confusing menus, extremely slow black-shading calibration and difficulty on keeping constant temperatures. Which you really need to constantly update with this camera because of all that noise generated, and it takes around 10min of calibrating each time, of just waiting. So if you have a lot of change of temperature, framerate or shutter speed in your films, it add's up to the difficulty.

@AxTechs

2 жыл бұрын

You can say this about any camera when it's not rigged out - even a Komodo or fx6 - you can still use it yourself, it's just better to do it with a team, like with every other camera system

@BrandonSallinger

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s pretty much what he said. And all cameras benefit from an AC and crew.

@billyoung9538

2 жыл бұрын

A cameras form factor influences how it is used in cinema not if it is a cinema camera or not. Given various Blackmagic cameras, including most if not all the modern pocket line, have been used on various Hollywood cinema productions, even some top grossing ones, it's hard to claim that any of them are not cinema cameras. While I would agree that the pocket line does not fall into the typical A cam form factor as easily as something like the RED scarlet might, this doesn't mean people haven't used them as an A camera for certain types of productions. It all comes down to what a given production calls for in order to make the production happen within it's given budget.

@robertgruen2088

2 жыл бұрын

Film has grain, and one of the dumbest technical arguments you hear on set is how Arri's noise looks more filmic than Red's. That being said, most people would just want to shoot the cleanest images they can and leave such things to post, but cinematographers are not most people. They all want to leave their mark on their art, so many will turn to using filters to modify the image during capture instead of letting it slide to post, where there is a lot more control and feedback. Red was THE cutting edge cinema camera company back in the day, and they always expected experienced film cinematographers to use their tools. So you had to light the areas you intended to be black so that they were above the noise floor and then crush them in post. Problem was too many video people got a hold of it and didn't understand the concept of cinematic lighting. Over the years other companies jumped in and a lot of progress has been made. Even though I own an Epic Dragon I might actually turn to a Black Magic camera if I had a shoot that had a lot of outdoor night scenes. It would be an example of how selecting the right camera can save in many thousands of dollars of lighting.

That Red is a Beast! I would appreciate if you could do another video doing some test footage and doing some work with The HDR on this camera. Thanks !!

My little gem 😍 I love my Scarlet MX

I own both the cameras and you are absolutely spot on . I have found the older Blackmagic pocket cinema camera og cut quite well with the Red scarlet x. All newer Blackmagic cameras lack cinematic cadence, color density and are over sharpened in my opinion.

@NiVoMediaSolutions

9 ай бұрын

I was trying to figure out what I didn’t like about the pocket 6ks. I shot a bit with the urea mini and the thing was gorgeous footage wise. Crop sensor has downsides but the shots just look so nice. Been wanting to see what the deal is with reds for a while. I find some cameras just have a good feel which can definitely beat the specs or something that is technically better.

i am here watching this video because i own a RED MX Cinema camera, i love so much more then my old BMP 6K

I just bought a BMPCC 6K Pro 😭 haha. Just kidding. The Scarlett wouldn’t work because I want to mount it on a gimble. Thanks for all your videos Caleb. I spent a lot of time watching you review various pieces of gear to build out my rig.

Finally!! Let's gooooo

Love this series! Idea for a next one: AJA CION They must be extremely rare ;)

the best part of the side handle and redvolt is that you can have that and then hot swap your v-mount or gold mount batteries on the back.

Hi Caleb, which vmount adaptor and cable did you go for specifically please? I click the links in the description but it takes me to a page of options, maybe because I'm in the UK? Specifically, which vmount adaptor let's you bolt directly onto the mounting point for the Redmote?

beautiful setup which v mount battery plate are you using for the setup ?

Really nice video! Can you also do a comparison with the red komodo and red scarlet or gemini? or others?

Just when I thought I decided on what camera to purchase next

We want to see your footage review of Meike cine FF prime lineup, I heard a lot good things about them.

Informative video... A friend/colleague has one and has offered to let me borrow it... Perhaps I will. I saw that you had the Meike full frame cine glass mounted up. Does that indicate that you are preparing a review of those? I have been weighing the S35 models vs the full frame models as a slightly more modern looking alternative to my Canon FD's and Minolta MC Rokkor's. I like the idea of future proofing, but the price difference between the S35 and FF is somewhat significant. Thoughts on cost vs performance when compared to classic stills lenses?

How were you able to get the Osee to work on the Scarlet X? I hooked mine up using the HDMI cable but it's not working on my Scarlet.

MX sensor still holds up today!

Hey Caleb i was wondering if you could make the original sony a6500 guide available to buy again? As I'm only interested in that and not the a6400 or a6600. Cheers

Could you do a series on old dslrs like canon 5d mark 2 canon eons 550D, it would be really cool to see.

IPP2 Workflow is pretty easy and gives a great starting point.

What is the lens you used for these tests? Thanks!

What's the mic used for this video and the sound recorder pls. The sound is just too smooth and sweet

Would you be reviewing the video capabilities of the nikon z9?

on the old red mags like a 64gb card, how much 4k 24p recording time would you get?

Can you do photography with them? The image quality is so good! Are there any advantages to using this type of cameras for photography? Or just for video?

Wow, these really hold their value!

Can still remember when this came out

I just shot my thesis film on a Scarlet X, or maybe it was the MX. It wasn’t too bad to work with considering it was my schools camera. Lots of useful features and I shot my entire project at 5K WS / 24 FPS. The only thing that I wish this camera had was focus peaking. It has a focus mode in the false colors but it’s really bad and I had some shots that were focus pulls so it was very hard to pull off without it. Overall it was a great camera to use.

@DanielTroyer

Жыл бұрын

Scarlet X is the MX sensor. Scarlet X cannot do 5k higher than 12fps, so maybe you had the Scarlet W with dragon sensor. Using an external monitor with focus peaking is what these cameras were built for.

Can you program playback start and stop with the side handle?

thank you!

Ive got my 6d, nifty fifty, and magic lantern and it still looks pretty dang good

what cam do u use in the studio(model)?

As much as I love the RED’s image quality, its down sides as a camera are too big, so for the time being, I’ll keep my 6 k pro. Thanks for the awesome review 🙏

Hi Caleb. Have you ever considered reviewing the Sony CineAlta PMW-F5 (not to be confused with the FS5 its little brother) as a budget cinema camera? They’re available used, and still current with Sony as a model that they still sell new and provide service for (but pre-owned is way more affordable). If you like the organic look of RED and you liked the Sony F3, you might like the F5. I realize that none of us have unlimited money for cameras but since the Sony F5 pre-owned is in a similar price range to the RED that you reviewed in this video, it might be something that your viewers are interested in. I have an F5 with the 4K upgrade [also Netflix approved with the 4K upgrade] and for my needs, the Sony F5 is an affordable 4K PL mount camera with amazing natural color and affordable media cards. Thank you for providing content for filmmakers like myself that are on a budget. Sure it’s fun to watch videos about shooting with Arri Master Prime lenses, but we also need content about gear that we can actually save up for too. God bless!😊

Hey bro, biggest watcher since like year 1 Do you think you can replace the harddrive inside?

what cable are you using for the monitor?

yep is a best my cinematography school have one and i love it

Crazy green-yellow with the BMPCC6kPro! Wondering if you've ever checked out a Fuji mirrorless color?