This 15L SFF case can fit a FULL SIZED PC - SSUPD Meshroom S
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This Sub 15L case can take an ATX motherboard!
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Chapters
0:00 - This is not what you're expecting
0:52 - Panel Removal
1:26 - Fan & Radiator Support
2:48 - Motherboard Support
3:13 - Internal Layout & GPU Support
4:05 - Included & Optional Riser Cables
4:31 - PSU Support
4:57 - Internal Cables & Wiring
5:13 - ATB Build Preparation
6:00 - GPU Installation
6:25 - Motherboard Installation
7:39 - PSU Installation
8:36 - Cooler Installation
10:01 - Putting it all back together again
10:52 - Cinematic Mode
12:29 - Thermals
13:17 - Thoughts on the Meshroom S after building
15:15 - Pricing & Conclusion
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Solid video as usual. Love how in depth you get with your reviews. All the right information and directly to the point. Keep up the great work!
Another great build video. I love waking up in the US and having a new GS video sitting there.
Great work Nick, just what we asked for. It still hasnt been released to the UK retail market. I hope it's out for Xmas as I've just decided to order a Meshlicious as downsized to ITX and could be looking to put my media PC which has a micro-ATX board with a 5600G in this model
This is a very intriguing case. I was thinking about making an ATX computer as smallest possible, and I think this is the only case that could accomplish that.
@Zombie101
Жыл бұрын
did you do it
With how many options of how to set this up SSUPD should really have 3D models on their website you can rotate and see closer where everything goes. As the pictures they have currently aren’t as clear as they should be. Especially with SFF cases where ever cubic inch counts case manufacturers should go into great detail of dimensions and limitations
This case mainly exists to be a "Meshlicious 2" with a different name. The original designer of the Meshlicious was W360 (Formd T1 & NCASE M1) and allegedly wasn't paid the agreed upon profits by SSUPD, so they sued SSUPD and are making a Meshlicious V2 with Streacom. This is also why the NCASE was discontinued, due to SSUPD's close relationship with LianLi, they didn't want to place a new production order while the lawsuit was going on.
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
I am very aware. I am friends with W360.
@MrDamonLeBeouf
Жыл бұрын
wow thanks for that share. thats extremely interesting! politics even in the itx world.
@techbuildspcs
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know about this, I was going to get this case, Has the w360 designed and released a case by himself yet? Id love to support him.
@OmairArif
Жыл бұрын
@@techbuildspcs he's made several cases in the past. Don't know if any are currently available, but he's working on a few new cases right now.
@OldDolio312
Жыл бұрын
Huh? Then why is this case selling on the same original site?
THATS WHAT SSUPD STANDS FOR? A method of cooking eggs!? I am neither underwhelmed nor overwhelmed, i am just, whelmed. Great to finally see an ATX build in this thing, watching ITX reviews feels kinda pointless since you can just do that with the original meshalicious.
@shinoMusic
Жыл бұрын
I actually think there is a use-case for an itx review, but I haven't seen it done in the configuration yet. I'd like to see atx-psu, itx-mobo on the mobo-side while the gpu-side has a radiator and high-end-watercooled gpu. If this fits a custom loop configuration like that this is a huge win for psu clearance, since the new GPU generation sips so much power.
I have the original Meshilicious case and love it despite a few gripes. I'm happy to see that they addressed the placement of the power button because there have been times where I would use a USB port and accidentally push the power button (I've learned my lesson and am now more aware of how I hold USB cables). It's also interesting how you can now put the radiator behind the motherboard and beside the GPU since that's where most of the heat resonated in the original case. Idk how practical it is to support an ATX motherboard but at least the option is there. Just wish they included taller case feet to deal with the pesky display cables.
@b127_1
Жыл бұрын
I've hit the power button on accident so many times... My case sits on a few coasters so i dont kill my displayport cable. Its not stupid if it works lol.
@kevinw7319
Жыл бұрын
I have a cat who loves to sit on the warm PC case and press the on/off button for me.
This is a really ideal case for all sizes of motherboards. Love it.
Looks like the side rad racket can be relocated to the next spot. Dual 240mm radiator seems possible for ITX build
Thank you for doing atx. All the m.2 options!
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
We did what people asked us to do :)
@la009895
Жыл бұрын
@@GearSeekers I know I asked for the ATX review and you gave us the ATX review.... hopefully your time off helped recharge you! Coming into a busy time of the season.
The cyan and pink in the charts brings me back. So many toys from the 80's and 90's had the black, cyan, and pink theme.
With how ITX boards seem to be getting worse and worse in terms of features+performance, it's great seeing that these types of cases exist with a wide range of compatible parts. As far as I know, the only better case in terms of space efficiency is the 10l SFF-Time P-ATX case, which is unfortunately really damn expensive due to it only being made by a relatively small company from Croatia.
@pjuppi
Жыл бұрын
out of curiosity i searched them up and gawddamn! those cases looked really nice. definitely their new cube-case that can fit a goddamn NH-D15S! 🤣 maybe time to start getting bookmarks for everything 😁
This is such a dank case and the Gear Seekers Sauce makes just look so good
I was waiting for this review for two weeks ahaha great stuff
For this ATX build can someone tell me which PCIe cable was used in this build? Their website is a little confusing.
I'd put the radiator fans on intake push configuration and put an exhaust fan up top, dremel should do the work like in this 1st version of ssupd mesh. Also might put an intake fan beside the PSU for airflow on the motherboard, nice case, nice review. Thanks for the close up shots.
Tiny Cases deserve love too !
It's criminal that this video doesn't have more views, this case is a atx users dream case, and small budget form factor dreamers dream
do you know what the "gpu baffle" is? I have an XFX MERC RX 6800 (340mm long), and im not seeing how this is going to fit. in the case description on the SSUPD website it doesnt say it supports that long of a card, but in your case description it does. Thanks!
Wooo the video i've been waiting for 🙌, great video awesome build 🙂👍, also the music is still bussin 🎶
@KlaireGearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou!
Is the "extra PCIe riser cable for Micro-ATX and ATX setup" included with the PCIe 4.0 SKU/bundle?
Hi. What size pcie riser did you use on your build with the atx? Thanks
great work as usual
im ready to migrate my oven box from q500l to this case. i like small footprint but prefer an ATX board. there were options but like sliger case but those are hard to find at least from where I'm from. the orig SSD was readliy available and was easy to grab one. so I have my hopes this would be too.
nice video! do you think a matx build with a low profile big shuriken 3 ana a rx6700xt or 6800 would be fine with termals, there is no space for intake fan thats why i want to ask thx.
Hoping to build with what I already have, so would a atx psu fit if you use a matx board?
Excellent review!
So am I correct in assuming that there is no airflow over the front of the Mobo? Seems odd for a full mesh case.
is that a right or left pcie riser cable? i’m building a meshroom s with an asus b550-f motherboard (atx) & an rtx 3050, so my placement is the same as yours but need longer riser cable. just don’t if i need right or left. please help, thank you
Banger of a video fams, the meshroom S looks like an interesting case
I have a technical question, will the 180mm Corsair HX1000-1000 watt power supply and 240mm Arctic liquid cooling come into this case?
Would it be possible to use a liquid cooled GPU in this configuration, given the case support for dual radiators? I know SSUPD makes an external bracket for a 360mm rad, but if it can all fit inside it would be a little cleaner.
looks so cool would like to try a build in this.
Noob question, so i clean out my thermal paste from my gpu heatsink with 70% alcohol isopropyl but now it looks like that the copper looks washed out is that normal?
Good to see you back, hope you two had a good break.
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if we're back yet lol
@KlaireGearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
We tried haha
Would it not be ideal of they set a bracket for a 140/120mm right above the PSU and a grill for the fan for RAM cooling purposes? The space between the panel and the cooler would be the same as the PSU height, I suppose.
Could you do a video showing/comparing all the different configurations? Thanks!
I know I should buy a sfx psu to use with a atx motherboard but i just wanted to know if it could fit at all. would be really cool to just shove everything i already own into this case initially even if its super tight.
do you know of any case similar to the Sliger Cerberus but more modern?
Question: what happens if the GPU is thicker than 1.8 slots? Does that mean only 1 rad can be used on the front side, without also adding on the right side?
can i use a atx mobo and atx psu at the same build in the meshroom s?
Does anyone know what riser cable did he use for this build
I wonder how dual rads would work with the smaller motherboard
I have B660m Tuf wifi D4 and PSU NZXT C750 Bronze 150mm. Could they fit together?
I just got this case, and I git a GA 2 Trinity 240 but the cooler didn't work since the tubes face downwards and intersect with my ATX motherboard. which cooler are you using?
Can i put my glass panel from the meshlicious on this?
what riser cable lenght do you recommend?
If I have an MATX board, can I use a standard ATX psu in this case?
Does this come with both pcie cable lengths?
Can plug in 4 monitors in this PC case or does it restrict the GPU ports?
Can I know about riser cable name? Is it ssupd riser cable 270mm length? in description of ssupd, if you build atx m/b system, you need to install the riser cable to 2nd slot on your m/b. but your video installed first slot. so I want to know about riser cable your system.
Yaassssss. I've been planning a build in the Meshlicious. What is the biggest difference and or benefits of this new case over that one? Much love guys
Hey, Nick. Can you use the GPU in the regular orientation if using a low profile cooler with the ATX mobo?
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
You can but finding a decent cooler that will do the job might be tricky. There are some that will fit but few that will be good.
What riser cable did you use?
Which color of this case are you using? Grey or black? Thanks!
Couldn't even figure out how to get the panels off this case to start. Cheers
What would the temperature be like if we only used fans?
Do you still plan on posting the PCpartpicker link?
What size riser cable u used
will a 4090 fit next to the AiO?
hello friend. how long is the pcie4 riser cable that you have shown on this video to install your graphics card behind the case. thanks
Wonder if this or the p-ATX from sff time is better?
I really want to see dual radiator custom loop build in this.
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
yes
so with itx 280aio atx with up to 240?
peeping that LTT screwdriver! 👀
How does this compare to jonsbro vr3?
Would a tubes down radiator with be possible with an mATX? Thanks for the build.
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Its required for MATX to work properly
Would this case fit mATX + ATX PSU? I am trying to transplant my mATX MB + ATX PSU to as small box as possible for my HTPC. I don't need to use a gpu. maybe LP GPU is more than enough for my build.
I've been tempted to do my first foray into ITX and build in the famous NR200P, but this case looks super interesting too but harder to use!! 🤔
@battlepowered
Жыл бұрын
I’ve only built 1 pc and it’s been itx. It’s awesome, not too expensive. Motherboard, power supply and cases are where you see the “itx tax”. Also there’s the fact that most builds are performance limited. If you get a sick build it’s usually cursed with higher temps. But I don’t regret it. I think something like this, will be my next build when I upgrade years from now. MATX/ATX in a smaller case like this is rather ideal.
@megadeth8592
Жыл бұрын
love my nr200
Personally not my style of case but I can appreciate people will dig it. Great video fams.
What size aio cooler did you use for this? 240mm or 280mm?
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Watch the video lol
Does this case fit in 4090 gaming OC?
why did he walk up during the intro like he was about to tell me some bad news lol
im using the original love it great work guys
meshroom has somewhat bigger front cutout up and down compared to meshlicious, is it possible to place rad and fans outside the case?
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
no
I wonder if the pcie riser is longer and allow routing upwards, can it free the other pcie slot to be used for real
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Nope
YES YES I LOVE SFF PC SO MUCH
Wouldn't Thermals be better if you switched the Rad to Intake and installed the 120/140MM slim fan as exhaust pointed up?
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Nope
You said you can add a 360mm radiator to this case?
Nice vid Nick! I always get a 2 for 1, a Build and my subwoofer flex! good music in this one too! Hi Klaire!
@KlaireGearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
😎😎
Will a full sized atx PSU fit with a ATX motherboard?
Can u make a vedio with itx and 2 rads?
I would put it in 4 slot mode if running ATX with an AIO and side mount rad to give the fans more clearance.
Could you do a matx version please 🙏🙏
As brazilian, it's so hard to find itx stuff here. PSUs in particular, I've never seen an SFF PSU. This kind of case could be amazing to build a PC with a small footprint while still using regular sized components. And in general smaller footprint > smaller volume. Vertically oriented cases are awesome. Now I'll make sure to not check how expensive it would be to order one of these cases overseas here, and pretend this is a viable option for me in the future :D
@iaia5368
Жыл бұрын
bem vindo ao clube. o melhor custo beneficio que achei por hora e que me agradou, foi o case chines SAMA CUZÃO IM01 (KKK) soquei uma mATX nele e um i9 boladao ES 10900. otimo case. paguei 500 pau. se for importar pelo ali, sai 1600. absurdo o roubo do estado
Have a pre-order in place for this case. Interested to see if I can fit 2x 280mm rads in there as they claim. Currently running a 5900x+RTX3090 in a Phanteks evolv shift 2 cooled by a 240mm+140mm custom loop.
@SewCis
Жыл бұрын
Did it fit? I wanna try to put my 240mm CM AIO, RTX 3070 and Z390 aorus pro mobo into it since I want to be able to actually take pc with me from one place to another.
@WeRemainFaceless
Жыл бұрын
@@SewCis I cancelled the order sadly so I couldn’t tell you…they gave an initial delivery date for beginning of December, but kept pushing the delivery date back, final straw was offering me a delivery date 3 months after the initial date 🤦🏼♂️🤬
@SewCis
Жыл бұрын
@@WeRemainFaceless Bwoah. That is so unprofessional by them. If I were You I would do the same. Thanks for the response and happy easter!
It's great what they achieved, but imo since they were already going this route they could add like 2-3 liters to the case to make things fit easier and also allow atx mb with atx psu.
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@kevinw7319
Жыл бұрын
Add 2-3 litres and suddenly its no longer a "small case"
@RafitoOoO
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinw7319 the cut of the SFF case is 20L, 15+3
@kevinw7319
Жыл бұрын
@@RafitoOoO If you want a big case, buy a big case :)
@RafitoOoO
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinw7319 you seem to have some reading comprehension, won't waste more time.
Would of loved it if it did a full atx board and psu
If you go mATX can you still fit a radiator in the front? mATX boards are usually a lot cheaper than ITX boards and having one in a form factor like this with two 280mm radiators would be great.
@Molo9000
Жыл бұрын
No. mATX and ATX are the same width.
@Invictus_Mithra
Жыл бұрын
@@Molo9000 That sucks, I want a case like this that can support mATX and dual rad. I don't care if it would be a little bigger.
It seems the market share the ATX scenario targets is the person who already has an ATX tower but wants to see if the SFF life is for them...and they would likely have to buy an SFX PSU to give it a go. That sure seems like an awfully small market segment. That said, it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything for the ITX crowd, and on SSUPD's US website, the Meshroom S with PCIe 4 riser is priced $20 less than Meshilicious with PCIe 4 costs...so that flexibility doesn't bring added costs, so it's not really hurting anything if you need/want the PCIe4 riser. And I'll tell you, owning a NR200P with a 3060ti FE...having a PCIe 4 riser saves a TON of headaches when it comes to BIOS updates...
Curious why the radiator fans is set to exhaust? Surely if it's intake it can take the fresh air from outside, but if it's exhaust, it is choked by the motherboard being so close and the warm air from the GPU is the only source of air.
Waiting for this case review ! Fit a ATX MB into 15 L just crazy!
@frostedbutts4340
Жыл бұрын
Patx fits one into 10 liters or something
@PATroll_knocking
Жыл бұрын
@@frostedbutts4340 Have seen that one, cant fit 240 aio, still a great case
@TANTHANHDANHCOMPUTER
Жыл бұрын
I simply did with the Meshlicious version : kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4R7rMeAZNu4itI.html
@frostedbutts4340
Жыл бұрын
@@TANTHANHDANHCOMPUTER That's very cool.
Always a big fan of sff case🙂
Can someone can tell me if this case is compatible with a Micro ATX motherboard and a ATX PSU? cant find much about possible combinations
@RobBroderick44
Жыл бұрын
mATX mobo + SFF psu is already a very tight fit :(
@Spawn223311
Жыл бұрын
@@RobBroderick44 made it with the atx psu. It works, but it's too tight for the riser cable. Puts too much pressure on it and makes it touch the back of the gpu which gets pretty hot and my riser cable actually melted in small spots and sticked to the gpu
could you fit a full ATX motherboard and ATX psu?
@mixedd69
Жыл бұрын
No
honestly I was hyuped about this case but seen the drawbacks it's kinda complicated to pull the trigger. maybe with air coiling and the GPU on standard position will be more suitable for meshroom
@GearSeekers
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. You would be very limited by coolers though
Isn’t 87° kindle high for cpu temp?
@GearSeekers
4 ай бұрын
No
bro you gotta review Mechanic Master C series cases!
look nice!