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I was born in 1963 and I can vouch for the quality of all things manufactured that year.

@BaddaBigBoom

9 ай бұрын

I see what you did there ;-) (me too btw ...happy 60th!)

@JavierBonillaC

9 ай бұрын

@@BaddaBigBoom Same to you my friend

There are a number of reviews available for this watch. This was the most comprehensive and helpful that I've seen, and has greatly aided me in figuring out what configuration to get. Nicely done Ben - thank you!

FREAKING FINALLY. You've been showing the chrono for a while now but never did a review. It's finally here!

Good review Ben. I've had mine for a couple of years now and have never even thought of getting rid of it. Like you I went with a "38mm" sapphire crystal option and I'm really pleased with it on a leather strap.

had this on my wrist last weekend, and could not stop smiling, and couldn't keep my eyes of it, what a watch.

I have a "Red Star" branded one like your one: 37 mm, sapphire, transparent caseback. Great watch, I love it. Red Star is owned by the person who, when a Seagull employee, managed the production of the first "1963" replica, so in a sense I consider their version more original than the original.

@Yogesh_war

Жыл бұрын

Guys where did you buy this watch in ail express or official website

@wojciechkopec9728

Жыл бұрын

@@Yogesh_war I just get my on amazon

This movement is actually a swiss movement, to be specific it was originally made by Venus and Seagull bought the patent in the early 60's but if you get a good one it will run for years, and it's the cheapest chronograph movement on the market 😉 👍

@user-gb5sh5gv3m

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! Makes it even more enticing

@gdwiggy

Жыл бұрын

I believe Seagull even bought the equipment to make it from Venus themselves!

@traviswalker8933

Жыл бұрын

@@gdwiggy they bought the patents and the equipment to save development costs to make their own movement.

@damyr

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Everything written here Ben already mentioned in the video.

@gdwiggy

Жыл бұрын

@@damyr I realized that when I first commented but the OC had a decent number of likes so I thought I might as well clarify for potential buyers. Guess a lot of people don’t actually watch the video 🤷‍♂️

I have the 40mm sapphire version on a champagne leather suede strap and it looks crazy elegant, it was even the watch I wore to my brothers wedding preferring it to a Tag and Panerai that I also own. This is a watch that imo every fellow watch enthusiast should own.

@bking82

Жыл бұрын

my wrist is 17 centimeters which of the two options it's for this size 38 or 40 mm?

@Troklo

Жыл бұрын

@@bking82 Mine is also 17 cm (hello fellow small wrist) and the 40 mm fits great.

Serious effort in the video description. So much info. Your videos are great for this. Top job!

@Prizm44

6 ай бұрын

Yet he fills the video with footage from other reviewers

Got a sugess moonphase with dark dial that has a seagull movement. For around 200€, it is one of my favorite pieces in the collection and literally looks amazing.

Thank you, Ben for this review. I recently got a Seagull 1963 variant of my own and then bought a second one.

I just watched Teddy's compilation video last night and I was wondering today when you were gonna drop this gem. Love your vids!

This watch is just awesome. Well priced, tactile with a classic look. Many KZread reviewers have a soft spot for the 1963. Great video Ben 🙂👍🇬🇧⌚

I have had a couple of veteran watch smiths who are familiar with the original Venus movement examine a Seagull chronograph movement. Their verdict was that while the fit and finishing weren't quite up to Swiss standards, it was pretty close and fully functional to boot. One even mused that he should contact them to obtain spare parts to rehab and use in repairing the vintage originals.

Can't believe this watch is still being talked about! I got mine like 5 years ago. Was my first serious watch and i love it even more i loved it on first sight ❤️

@kodoaok626

Жыл бұрын

How it is doing now ?

@outsidethepyramid

4 ай бұрын

How it is doing now ?

I bought both the 42" with mineral crystal and 28" sapphire version. Both are very accurate and smooth winding. Fit and finish are outstanding. The champagne gold dial and applied markers are beautiful. I love looking at the movement through the case back, it is stunning. Outrageous bargain.

@cooloutac

Жыл бұрын

that open display back is insane. I mean insane. The watchmaker bragging and flexing hard on that one lol. I mean the whole back is totally open lol. THe most open skeleton i ever seen is the angelus U20, but holy. This $250 dollar watch on the back? wow.

@Yogesh_war

Жыл бұрын

Bro which website did you brought ? Pls let me know

I own two of these. A 40mm Chrono Heritage M1963/X - SEA-GULL ST1901 bought directly from Sugess Watch in China and a 40mm limited edition Red Star bronze Seagull 1963 that came from the official Seagull 1963 store in Belgium. The Seagull is a watch that is hard to fault and I‘m quite fond of both of mine but my customer experience with both companies was hardly satisfactory. In sum I was swindled twice. The Sugess was supposed to come with the Swan Neck movement but didn‘t and unfortunately too much time had elapsed before I found out for me to be able to do anything about it. As for the Belgian Seagull 1963, it was only after I had received it that I found out that they do not individually number their limited edition watches (instead all 300 are numbered 1/300) and that it was missing it‘s tag, manual and registration QR code. It was also shipped about two months past it‘s preassigned shipping date. The company in Belgium casually dismissed my concerns and when I asked to return it they informed me that the 14 day return policy had expired. Be very careful who you buy from. The Seagull 1963 company in Belgium seems rotten to the core. I wouldn’t deal with them again if they paid me. BEWARE.

I enjoy the tick of a watch/clock, adding a sound to the passage of time is somehow soothing

I ordered 3 different Sugess watches using this movement, expecting to use them as throwaway watches but I have to say, I really do like them. They are now part of my regular wear-cycle. Their newer models are finished incredibly well and looks and feels on par with the thousand dollar watches.

@msbrownbeast

3 ай бұрын

I feel the value of the movement is even higher. Just name the least expensive Swiss mechanical chronograph with a column wheel and it's in the thousands of dollars. Not even the famed Omega Speedmaster has a column wheel - to get that column wheel, you;d have yo get the super expensive Omega Speedmaster 321 Ed White model. Or a Breitling, or a Rolex Daytona. At the $150 USD, you can't even buy a wannnabe Omega Moon SWATCH that comes with a quartz movement.

»It looks like a sports car on the wrist« is what my best friend said when he saw my panda dial version made by Sugess. They're generally the best producers of the ST19 movement, offering a plethora of choices - different case sizes, dial options, crystal options, and swan-neck regulator options. All of them are slightly better finished than the typical 150£ no-name seller while still below the 200£ mark. I recommend you opt for them, I'm very happy with the purchase.

@josuareestevez3037

18 күн бұрын

Where did you buy yours?

@aPixelcoffee

18 күн бұрын

@@josuareestevez3037 I bought it used. Otherwise, I'd opt for Aliexpress.

Excellent review Ben. This has been on my radar for sometime but was never bothered for it much as I considered it too small. Then I got to see and handle one and was blown away by the quality and the fit. I may at some point get the 40 but the size you went for still looks great on my 7” wrist. One for the future deffo! 😊

@1stamendmentmedia464

Жыл бұрын

I have a 7" wrist and the 40 mm version it's perfect.

One day one of these will find it’s way into my collection, that movement is a must have for any enthusiast surely.

It is a great watch. I am really excited about the large volume of other watches now coming out with this movement.

Hi Ben! I’m Chinese and your pronunciation of Zuan is spot on! And thanks for covering this watch, I’ve never heard of the brand before!

Amazing video! Just what I wanted to see in a review of my next watch! With links to them! Awesome

I’ve got the Sugess ($200) with gooseneck and It’s easily one of my favorites. I got mine with the stainless bracelet and it was disappointing with hollow, ill fitting ends. I did some bending with pliers under a loupe and it’s now decent at a glance. Got a super nice leather strap with clasp as the main one though and it is just great.

Ben, I feel like I might be speaking for more people than just myself when I say that we need a link to that stunning toolkit of yours!

I had an homage of omega’s speed master with identical mechanism from this watch and I can say it was one of the beautiful and most accurate mechanical watches I have ever had.

I have one, and I honestly wear it more than my Tissot PRX Automatic (which is Swiss Watch!) the 1963 movement is an amazing movement!!

I've had a few of these! Incredible watches for the price and definitely a fan favourite! Would definitely advise it to anyone

Amazing watch and review Ben! I have had my Seagull for 3 years now and even after a couple of drops, still works like a charm and keeps good time (+12 spd) 😁

Have this movement on a hemel air league which is a blancpain air command homage. Love it. Just discovered that even the speedmasters don’t have vertical clutch column wheels so it’s pretty cool to be able to experience it for 300 bucks

@iz723

Жыл бұрын

whats a vertical clutch?

I got the Seagull 1963 during the 11/11 sale and it hasn't left my wrist since then. It's incredible. Only thing I'm still looking out for is a nice leather strap for it!

@IMIkar

Жыл бұрын

how much you Pay?

@niksoncutts

Жыл бұрын

@@IMIkar $130! It was a total steal at that price.

@Yogesh_war

Жыл бұрын

Which website did you buy ? Pls let me know

I think it’s a beautiful watch, red star and all. Many thanks for bringing this to our attention Ben.

I have had my 1963 for 4 years now. I wear it on a Rios light brown strap. I also have a 25 jewel Seagull automatic day date from 1985 still running perfectly. I just bought a beautiful new Sea-gull Automatic Bi Disk watch which is very beautiful and only 10..8 mm thick on a soft leather suede strap. £130 well spent. Sapphire crystal and an exhibition caseback

By the way I love the content Ben, I noticed to my displeasure, that I was not yet subscribed, which I swiftly corrected. Keep it up! Much love from the French Alps, Raphael

I went to Marc’s LIW & coughed the 💰💰💰for the Sapphire Sandwich. $379.00 was super cheap when the 1st one arrived broken. Wrote Marc. He asked a few questions and I had my new (& superb) 1963 Pilot’s Chronograph. Very cool watch and mandatory for any collection. ✌🏻

Amazing. My brother in law says there’s no such bird as a seagull so it’s nice to know there is a watch.

Thanks for this great review!. I bought one of these and then wondered about the prices difference between the ones on the official site. But your explanation set my mind at rest. :) Cheers! Edit: 1 month later and I now have the 38mm, 40mm and 42mm. I love these watches. They are vulnerable though. I dropped my 38mm one from a height of 1 meter onto a carpet but it got damaged. There is some play in the balance wheel and it started rubbing against the cogwheel for the minute hand, stopping the watch occasionally. Luckily, watch repair is my new hobby so I poked around a bit in the mechanism and managed to get it working again. But beware these are fragile movements because of how complicated they are.

Great ! I do have one, Panda version and it's absolutely gorgeous. I do spend a lot of time watching the case back with a magnified glass and it's beautifull

@MegaMarlon0123

Жыл бұрын

Me too! Lol

Great review, Ben!

I have my Seagull 1963 since 2013 and running very well in 01.2023! ( no service)

I love my seagull 1963. I've had it for a couple years now and it's my weekend watch along with my Hamilton Khaki Field mechanical Hand Wind.

@morrissey07

Жыл бұрын

@@xchisholmhunter0-cv2ch no thank you, you Nigerian scammer. Te te ten naira bus

I have one and I love it. Thanks Ben.

My first seagul movement had a main spring malfunction. The shop I returned it to tried using there was no issue but I sent them a video of the spring skipping immensely while winding and not fully reaching maximum tension. Replaced it no problem and the new one seems to be sound so far. Lovely watch. Full skeleton fossil townsman. People always ask about it when I wear it

I got this for my wife for her anniversary. Absolutely stunning piece, its an affordable way to enjoy a beautifully decorated movement. I just wish the crown was bigger. Get some quick release leather straps for it.

Just picked one up and am loving it.

Love mine. very impressive looking watch and surprisingly accurate

I have the larger version of this, and a Red Star Bullhead using the same movement. Probably my two most worn watches of last year!

Fantastic review, thanks Ben. That watch is an absolute cracker and I really should just get one next time I've got some discretionary watch budget.

I have a quartz version from Ali Express. Doesn't cost as much and looks just as good. I like it - one of my favorite watches. 👍

I love mine! 38mm with sapphire. It's a strap monster!

Sugess has it for 60 percent cheaper and they do use the seagul movement. I got mine a while back and it’s beautiful. Only downfall is that the acralyic face scratches easy and mine broke. But sugess was not able to replace it. Other than the watch is fantastic!!! Love the look and feel of it. That is a sugess though. 😊 yes go with the saphire version for scratch reaistance but I love the OG acrylic look

@allyw7405

Жыл бұрын

Got a link? Preferably in GBP.

A great watch for an unbelievable price! I have a similar model also on a Barton leather strap. My only gripe is that the first pusher on mine sticks whenever I activate it, so it's a real pain to pull it back out to use again. The mechanical chronograph movement alone is worth the money.

The st19 looks cheap though. They use chrome plated brass for the mainplate and train bridges. I assume its an inexpensive way to give the movement some flare but ironically cheapens it imo. Not to mention they are not very consistent in reliability. I have one that still works great and ive had a couple that had issues after a year or two of being in my rotation.

Yes, Ben. I found the ticking in a mechanical watch somehow therapeutic...

Excellent video Ben , had mine now 3 years but use it occasionally due to many other of my collection taking preference. It's a beautiful watch and has the vintage feel along with its military provenance being the main reason why l purchased it. I also have both case back versions and wear it on a leather bund strap which is extremely comfortable

I love mine! Looks good, works well and is reasonable in size.

I quite like this watch. I think you didn’t mention some of its less attractive features (like the painted blue screws), but that’s expected at this price. I actually think that the dial lets it down a little bit, it could be a lot prettier. This is probably the best value mechanical chronograph short of an Omega, so I think it’s a gret buy for anyone.

@troyhutson538

Жыл бұрын

The blue screws and hands are allegedly annodized, which is in between paint and heat treatment for desirability.

I've never had an issue with a seagull movement excellent pieces

Long Island Watch sells the 38mm 1963 hand wind version with Swan Neck Regulator and Sapphire crystal for $325.

I own a Sea Gull. Different model... Incredible time counting machine. Flawless. Automatic, sapphire, rose gold coat...

Hope Jody knows you're using his video? He does seem to like these watches and makes the same valid point about the price difference and is the original worth it. Another great video Ben. 😀

great review! and as a chinese person i have to say you werent far off with your pronunciation of various chinese words. well done! :) fun fact. the chinese character zuan is actually 1 half of the 2 characters that form the word diamond: zuan shi. literally translated it means "drilled stone" aka stone you get by drilling. so it's the term for "gem" or "jewel" in the sense that "diamond" colloqually became the term for "gem". no actual diamonds in the watch! 😂

I love the movement, so I bought three variants of the 40mm Sugess branded chronographs (Panda, Top Time Homage and Rallye). Great mechanical watches for the price.

@fark69

Жыл бұрын

I think Sugess is the way to go if you like this movement and don't want something that looks like an old army watch

@NathanChisholm041

Жыл бұрын

Suguess like other ali watches isn't using a real Seagull movement but a clone of the ST19! Only Seagull watches use genuine movements.

@marcos2606

Жыл бұрын

@@NathanChisholm041 is that right? I thought that Sugess and Seagull were the same company with different translation from Chinese! :D that's explain the cheaper price of Sugess...

@andrebalsa203

Жыл бұрын

@@marcos2606 They are different companies, Seagull manufactures this ST19 chronograph movement and Sugess/Seakoss/RedStar and others buy the ST19 and variants movements from Seagull and market their own watches with different dials and other components. But the movement is exactly the same.

@andrebalsa203

Жыл бұрын

@@fark69 Exactly. I myself wouldn't buy the RedStar Chinese Army version because I consider the dial aesthetics outdated.

I have a 40mm with Moonphase and 4 sundial layout, the quality is stunning for the price, even the canvas strap is great. the sub dial hands on mine are so thin and hard to cut, Ive only ever seen better quality on watches by JLC and Zenith.... the moon watch and Daytona have slabs for hands

I really appreciate the movement it’s a work of art! I keep looking at the 63 but haven’t taken the plunge. Great video as always

@MegaMarlon0123

Жыл бұрын

Get it! There is a panda one!! Looks amazing 🤩

Still a banger !! 🤩 ♻i'm searching non-working ones (from Seagull but also Sugess, Alpha ...) , because the mechanical part is a pleasure 🥰

These chronos are neat and have an amazing backstory. Mine is a 38mm with acrylic for the simple reason that that is how the originals for pilots were made

@pzwolski

Жыл бұрын

Have you bought a see-thru case-back or a solid metal one?

@alanmckinnon6791

Жыл бұрын

@@pzwolski see-through

@Godotlv5000

Жыл бұрын

I have the same version, it has a beautiful vintage look

@pzwolski

Жыл бұрын

@@alanmckinnon6791 Then it is not fully 'original for pilots'. 😉

I have one of these in bronze on my wrist at the moment. It looks killer!

I got this watch 3 years ago, still wear it often.

I love this watch I love the colours as well it’s generally a sweet watch 😊👍

looks good! Wanna get one

The Sapphire has more jewels because the sapphire itself is a jewel.

@gusthesailor4885

Жыл бұрын

😀

I have the Sugres version of the watch and sadly the pushers no longer put the 30min and secondhand back to zero. The one year warranty is nice, and now I need to send it to Oregon. As others have said, its a sharp watch. I also had to remove a hair from the watch (first day), as it was stopping the movement.

The only problem I have with this watch is that it’s basically disposable. The cost to get it serviced is probably double the cost of the watch. Also the movement does not have the best track record for reliability

@1stamendmentmedia464

Жыл бұрын

Not quite sure how fixing your problem 100% for a 150 bucks and ending up with a brand new watch is actually a problem. I get what you're saying, but.....that's just another check in the plus column. Read the comments, most people (including myself and those I know that own this watch), have had good luck with the movement.

Can't wait to get one

The two more jewels of the 21 zuan are not in the movement, but they consider the two sapphire crystal (the one in the front and the one under) as two more saphire jewels.

I've got a 40mm sapphire version, great watch. I love looking at the movement. Forbwhatbyoubgetbfor $160, it really makes you rethink that $5k price on the Speedmaster....

@igormarinkovic1531

Жыл бұрын

Status...

@Hrethgir

Жыл бұрын

@@igormarinkovic1531 That's most of it. The Omega is much better, and has some cool history behind it, but that price difference is HUGE. Maybe go with the Buluva Lunar Pilot for the same history and sane price.

Have you done a review on the Glycine Combat Sub? If not I’m sure we all would want to hear one!

I have a Sugess one. Love it. Where else can you get a real mechanical chronograph with genuine provenance for less than €300? Fantastic

The comparison with The Zenith El Primero movement was a bit of a stretch 😅

I own quite a few watches with this movement in them and haven't a problem with any of them, yet. For the price of this chronograph movement, it is an incredible value plus it is a very attractive movement to look at.

I have a Sugess watch with the seagull movement on the way. I have high hopes, it’s probably the only mechanical chronograph I will ever purchase.

The downside of these movements are higher that average failure rates and expensive service charges, but damn it's a nice looking watch. My favorites are the Sugess tachometer pandas.

I just discovered this the other day... The original 1963 had a steel back and acrylic crystal. It used the ST19 movement which has 19 jewels. Reproductions with steel back and acrylic crystals are marked 19 Zuan appropriately. The versions with display back and sapphire crystal count both sapphire lenses as jewels and are labeled 21 Zuan. They both use ST19 movements with 19 jewels where it matters. I own a 21 zuan model and have tested both the crystal and display back and they are both indeed sapphire. Unlike my Tissot V8 which uses a mineral glass display back and a sapphire crystal. I know it doesn't matter as much on the back but I find it funny that the Chinese bother to use sapphire front and back and Tissot cheaps out. '-(

@henkdeklapsteen6787

10 ай бұрын

Tissot has swiss movement ; ) good stuffff

@ceskyler

8 ай бұрын

​@@henkdeklapsteen6787Sea-Gull mouvement is a reissue of a Venus, they pay the Pattent, so still a Swiss mouvement.

I have exactly the same as yours and for a year it has been going back and forth on my wrist without problems and with an accuracy of + 3 sec/day A very beautiful and good watch and which shows that, contrary to popular belief, China is capable of producing quality objects.

I bought one years ago and it has held up well! The problem now is theres to many cheap clones out there using knock off ST19 and you dont know what crap you could be buying.

I remember these sold at my local army surplus store back in the day along with some Russian military watches.

Have it, love it 🙂

I have my eye on the 40mm lumed version. My wife says if I behave, I can have it for my birthday . I'm tossing up between the original airforce style and the black bezel panda version.

Great review. Sounds like a watch well worth buying. I am noy able to figure out which version you ended up buying. Could you clarify, please? Thanks.

I have this watch, and I recommend it with an unknown number of people that purchased it. Choice of size and crystal, and mechanical chronograph.

I have a red star Bullhead with the same movement. Great watch

I got one 4 years ago, and it's still going strong. Big sales, small margins = big profits. Look at Bremont, small sales, massive margin = a loss making company.

Seagull is the go-to first mechanical watch (or first chronograph) which i'd recommend to anyone, i have mine for years now and it's timeless, it's still accurate and you can match it with so many straps to have it never being boring

Have a look at Titan brand from India. Have a good variety of collections both quartz and mechanical

Well done, excellent, A+

Ben, fantastic video and review as usual. Is 22£ more for the 'swan neck' worth it? Thanks.