You’ve quickly become one of my top 3 favorite pickleball KZreadrs up there with Briones pickleball and pickleball studio. You’ve really given a breath of fresh air to all the tutorial videos I watch because you are newer and have gone through the learning process yourself. Your video production is also top notch and really enjoyable just from a viewing perspective. Keep it up man you are really making a difference out there

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

that means a lot to be mentioned in the same sentence as those legends!

@nicholasdisciscio1379

6 ай бұрын

I agree. Fantastic channel! Nice to see some off court analysis as well.

@rjsophia3712

6 ай бұрын

The channel is also showing video segments from John Cincola, That Pickleball Guy and Enhance Pickleball. My favorites, along with Briones Pickleball and, of course, THIS CHANNEL!!!! PickleBurner!!!!!

Brilliant. The pro clips add so much value to your videos. One of the best teaching videos I've seen. So well done....thank you!

Brilliant!.. a summary of an accumulation of all 'third shot drops'. Dial up, daily down, feet right, where the apex of height etc. Gives a newbie a nightmare confusion too. Visualisation is everything on any shot, this trains 'muscle memory' (:like a race car driver), to execute repeated shots you have done and confidently obeys you. But most crucial here is not court time, it DRILL TIME to get you retaining that success into auto response. Try that.

I can’t love this video enough! Each tip is clearly explained and your calm delivery gave me the impetus to methodically incorporate each lesson, slow down my impatience and master the important fundamentals. Well done!

I can't tell you how much I appreciate these compilations! Thankyou

Super collection of tips. Thanks for doing all the screening work for us ... then compiling them in one complete video. I cannot imagine how much time and effort you must put into all this.

Tip #21. I heard this from a tennis pro and it changed my game - dinking and drives, etc. That was, decide where you are going to hit the ball and then trust your shot. Most of us look where we are going to hit the ball, taking our eye off the ball or changing our mind, and then hitting a weak shot IF we are lucky. Good vid.

@130rne

6 ай бұрын

Yep. And especially in pickleball with fast play and a small hitting surface, it's important to dial in on the sweet spot. Just yesterday I practiced tennis shots in a racquetball court and intentionally watched the ball all the way to the racket. Guess what happened. Your brain knows where the court is. You don't need to keep looking. Your brain knows where the net is. Watch the ball all the way to the paddle. Watch it THROUGH the paddle. Don't even look up for a second. This is not a beginner skill that requires little practice. I'm 4.5+ and if I'm not careful my eyes come up early and I miss the sweet spot. I will be drilling this even if I become pro. The habit of looking up before the ball hits paddle is BAD. New routines destroy old habits. This is absolutely necessary for consistent shots, especially with small sweet spots. It must be drilled. It's that important of a concept that it exists across tennis, golf and baseball.

@chea7z913

5 ай бұрын

That's absolutely right, the problem is trusting your shot. You can trust your shot all you want but if your hand eye coordination/athleticism is not at a certain level then your body will take a long time to learn how to correctly execute the shot. Practice is important, but without talent you're looking at a LOT of it

Best instructional video on drops I've seen. Thanks.

Helpful tips. Thanks for posting.

Can’t wait to practice these tips. Thank you!

Thank you for GREAT info 👍

Great advice, thank you ❤

Best drop video ever! Thanks.

Great video. Your information was great. I appreciate that you took the time to research this shot. Then you posited it to us very clearly. Well done!! Thanks so much.

Great video and analysis.

absolutely great content honestly how you articulate and explain everything in your videos has improved my pickleball game dramatically.

Excellent tips and observations yet again.

I've seen most of the videos you used, but seeing them together with your great summaries of the important parts really was helpful. Gonna watch it repeatedly!

That was THE most comprehensive approach to the Drop! Impressive!!

I love your videos. Keep up the good work man.

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Fantastic video!! I’d love move videos with this style

Great job of putting this video together . Really solid tips from a verity of top players . Keep up the good work !

The amount of time you save me by doing your research is a godsend. I love your videos! You have a keen analytical mind. You might have the best pickleball videos on the internet. Professional lessons are expensive and to have this type of information really makes a huge difference in my game. Thanks so much for your content!

Excellent information AND presentation--your emphasis on working on the "feel" of these skills resonates well with me

Excellent hacks. Can’t wait for the next one.

the best drop shot videos of all time; all the points you need to do; will try this at next play around.

Great tips!

Well done, I plan to add some of these tips to my teaching. I haven’t heard the word “push” in a while and I’ve forgotten that I used to use it when describing how some shots should feel. Thanks for a well articulated message 😉

great in depth video! can you post more frequently please!

Best drop shot instruction ever

You're a natural at this! Great job with this video. The editing must have taken forever...but you created a great video!

Thank you for your videos! You have one of the best pickleball channels.

love love love your content .... only one gripe ...the music is distracting from your instruction . It's fine in the intro but then lose it for the main body of the video imho . thanks for posting

excellent

Just stumbled onto your site. Excellent info. One additional issue re 3rd shot drop consistency...trunk rotation and off arm counterbalance. This is probably taken for granted by players coming from racquet sport background but I learned this from deep diving into Ben John's 360 series. The more we rely on the paddle arm to do most of the shot work, the more variability we add to the stroke, especially when stressed or tired. He also talks about letting the paddle angle impart most of the spin. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your triangle analysis video.

The T Rex hand tip is real!.....amazing improvement in todays session on topspin drops . Thank you man.....love ur stuff....you are a real student of the game. All the best in upcoming competitions

Wish I had discovered this video earlier. Excellent job pulling tips from various sources. Can you comment if the drop should be hit in a closed or open stance. As a tennis player, I’m used to turning sideways for my groundstrokes. Does this come down to preference?Keep up the great work. Thank you.

damn good vid - love the references to other YT picklers. Really great stuff.

@rajsagar7

4 ай бұрын

Coming back here to say you are the best pickleball content creator I’ve come across-articulation, insight, and most importantly, structure and synthesis of everyone’s learnings-I really Hope you stick with it as your game keeps ascending!

This is so helpful. Tip 11 for me is my biggest issue currently. I’m getting the third over, but the trajectory is way too high and that fourth ball is always getting sped up at me. Really helpful to have a more linear trajectory then super high and short

13:50 I found that video from Callie a couple months ago, then couldn’t find it again for some reason. I didn’t realize how much raising my torso was negatively impacting my drops. I’ve caught myself doing it a few times when recording games/drilling, but it’s much easier to correct after watching Callie’s video.

Thanks. I liked; Only add topspin or slice once you have a flat drop down.

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I Love watching my opponents reaching out their paddle up high and dropping their paddle at the last second, because my shot dropped in front of them. Ha!!!!!!

love your videos! at 4:20 you mention following through forward after the "toss". But I've been watching a TON of 3rd shots in pro matches lately and it's stunning how many (just like most of their dinks) they actually hit off to the side, with their paddle horizontal (not tip down like you'd expect from a compact cornhole toss motion). Even Federico shows this a few seconds later at 4:36 , just like Cincola at 15:11 at Connor Hance at 15:40 . They're all shoulder hinge (no elbow or wrist), and they're footwork is close. They either setup perpendicular to the incoming path, or perpendicular to the intended send path. And again as you mention several times, there's next to no backswing. As a non tennis player, here's what I failed to grasp about about (1) the closed stance on my drops and dinks, and (2) using just the shoulder hinge: It keeps our paddle face angle consistent (vertically) through the swing path. Yes, it may land a *little* left or right of target, but basically never gets vertical problems - it never pops up or fails to clear the net.

@mggilbert425

6 ай бұрын

As a coach, I have found that people are much more successful by lining up their hips, shoulders, and ankles in a plane toward their target when anywhere other than the nonvolley zone. I'm surprised how many coaches and players keep their hips and shoulders square to their target even at deeper parts of the court. Both work, but the former is substantially more consistent than the latter, at least from my observation

@mggilbert425

6 ай бұрын

I also agree that people have more success with a more horizontal paddle angle at transition zone in baseline. Vertical angles for newer players tend to generate more flipping of the ball up high

A drop shot is simply "a Dink from distance!"

i paid $50 for #15--great video🤣

Do you prefer a paddle head shape? Elongated flat head vs the hybrid curved head style? Debating on what style paddle to get.

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

not really! i don’t think much about paddles other than power tbh

The instant I hit the ball I know if it hit my chosen spot or if I missed.

This leaves out one of the most important tips from Cincola: your stroke mechanics might need to differ depending on the path your paddle takes relative to your body, especially forehand vs backhand, and even more so when you finally begin to apply topspin and underspin. Other than that, this was first rate.

Tip #20 is great, it's not thought about a lot but it's very helpful and almost a requirement for players who are looking to break bad habits. Being able to visualize what they should be doing, rather than visualizing hitting winners or crazy shots all the time. What do you recommend instead of tip #20 for someone with aphantasia? Aphantasia is when someone can't visualize anything in their mind. It is sometimes called "mental blindness." They have no "mind's eye." They can see just fine, but if they try to remember a sight they have seen before, it's more about memorization rather than being able to recall that memory into a "visual" in the mind. Any tips on place of #20 that might be helpful for this condition?

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

omg i have some aphantasia too it runs in my family - i still find that an intent to visualize still works even if i can't see the imagery clearly. i also do a ton of shadow stroking to build up the memorization

@afterthesmash

6 ай бұрын

Why are you asking the a-aphantasaics about this, when none of us can innately visualize not being able to visualize? In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king, but don't ask him how to grope in the dark, since he'll know less about that than anyone else in the kingdom.

@Metow677

6 ай бұрын

@@afterthesmash to get a different viewpoint if he had one. I've asked other people as well. I coach tennis and I'm trying to find different answers from other coaches on things that I am not familiar with so I have better ways to help students who have aphantasia. Nothing wrong with trying to look at something from a different angle (pun not intended). Also the reply I got was in the context of struggling to visualize partly due to aphantasia. I didn't ask you specifically!

What is the background music you're using at the beginning of this video? Specifically from 00:10 thru 00:50.

More meta videos like this please

My tip #22 would be to move forward through or out of the shot to get closer to the net. Tip #23, move forward more off a good drop, less or none off a drop that is attackable. And, tip #24 . . . and then stop your forward momentum and get set for the next shot just before they hit the ball or, alternatively, split step as they contact the ball as one does in tennis. Would love to see a video on this movement out of the drop and transition to the next shot. -John Pinkerton

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

great idea!

Thumbnail makes it feel like I’m on acid

Super decent content

I’m looking for a coach in San Diego. Any ideas how to tell if they’re good or not?

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

hmm not sure I’ll have to think about it

Hi, I tried to sign up for the 30 day challenge and never got an email back from you to do so.

I couldn’t click on your drop shot challenge. I’d like the videos. Plse tell me how to sign up. You are very good at explaining

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

pages.pickleburner.com/ does this link work?

Do the higher up players and pros but topspin on all the drives and serves?

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

nope! lots of pros just push it flat

@deatonsports8629

6 ай бұрын

So when do they do a lot of Topspin? On Dinks? @@pickleburner

Incredible content as always. These deep dives are my absolute favorite. You are living up to that anime character’s legacy 😂. Can I make a request for another deep dive video? Id love something like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKmgu7KfaM28fZc.htmlsi=b2zSQRSewx8HTnmc I’d love you to dissect the advanced nuances of the shot form and grip of the most important pickleball shots with slow mo game footage analysis. Especially for shots where pros stand out from the average 4.5-5.0 amateur… like how they defend and counterattack versus speedups. So many pros seem to switch grip and go to heavy backhand or heavy forehand (Colin John’s famous window wiper style forehand shot). I’m an athletic male 4.5 and really struggle against speedups, yet watch women senior pros make it look easy… I imagine that is something we could uncover and train on. Thank you for all of your hard work… it is so appreciated!

I have a bad habit, I think, of slicing my drops-using a sideways scooping motion.

I really struggle with 3rd shots when the return is a powerful drive or has a ton of slice.

@KUREOUSBUM

5 ай бұрын

Same here. I'm 61, and in my age bracket, if someone hits a powerful return, they're not going to make it to the kitchen line before I strike the ball. This allows me to drive the 3rd back to them, aiming at their feet.

I have a bad habit of taking my eye off the ball while making the drop. I would look up toward my opponent and it was cause my body to be more upright making my drop high

One should only be trying to add spin to their drops after showing competency in the basic drop lift motion first.

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

100%

Ha ha, meta analysis comes to KZread. Who knew?

i just want to say...I got man-splained today in recreation pickleball. yes that's right. i got "a talking' to" by the banger men in the group (i'm a woman), telling me that my 3rd shot drops suck, because they're too high, thus creating an attackable ball; and that it's too predictable. what they failed to see is that i'm the only one at that gym that routinely practices my 3rds (i truly have put "winning" aside for the sole purpose of practicing this skill); no one else does it except for me. yes admittedly, sometimes they suck. and that's the other part they don't understand--that any shot is tied to the next move, so that i am also practicing my evaluation of the 3rd, followed by my response--either defend or move forward. god, i sometimes hate men. and i especially hate banger men. just sayin'...can you please do a video on how stupid bangers are? please, so that i can feel redeemed! thanks. P.S. i continued to practice the 3rd just to piss them off.

@ricoman7981

6 ай бұрын

I’m with you. I’m 66, have been playing for a couple of years and I practice my drops all the time. Sometimes some of the folks I am partnered with in any game get frustrated because they are bangers and want to win every game. If my drop is short they aren’t happy and if it happens to be a bit long and we get slammed back, they are frustrated. That’s ok in my mind because I am getting better with my drops, and they never ever try them. Where I play as long as you win you stay on the winners side, when you lose you move to the ‘almost’ side and your next game is with 4 almosts. When you win again you move back to the winner side. I go into each session with the idea to try one or two things in every game. I want to win but we aren’t professionals playing for money so if I am practising and getting better and a bit more consistent, I’m satisfied with that. I work at positioning too and could say things to many of my partners because they never take lessons and have no idea about positioning. If they were playing more aware they would realize that when I’m playing against them and they are out of position I’m likely to exploit that and beat them. As we only play recreationally, many people never try to get better and i have noticed that I’ve gone from losing to these folks a year ago to beating them more often than not this year.

@liz-sy2lj

6 ай бұрын

@@ricoman7981 I can relate to everything you said. Are you female by chance? One of my frustrations is that the men in the group think they know more than the women, simply by virtue of the fact that they hit harder. It's insane. Many of them will hit the ball super hard, and then just stand there; they don't move a muscle. They seem to have zero recognition of when to move in and how to track the ball.

@ricoman7981

6 ай бұрын

@@liz-sy2lj I’m a guy but we have 3 or 4 women that have quite the attitudes. I’ve had them say things to me when I miss a 3rd or 5th shot drop, like “you have to get that over the net”. I laugh because they don’t even try finesse shots, lots of the people I play with don’t try drops at all. I’ve also had a few comment when I have tried a top spin roll over when the ball is a little bit below the net when I reach into the NVZ and try the shot. They never seem to complain when I make that shot. I just tell them that if I don’t practice the shot I will never master it. That concept is foreign to the bangers.

@liz-sy2lj

6 ай бұрын

@@ricoman7981 okay well you've perhaps renewed my faith in pickleball humanity, and maybe you're one of the nice guys. but only you. the rest of 'em suck. just kidding. my latest PB epiphany is how fast (or in this case how slow) the serving team should approach the kitchen line. previously i thought i needed to go super fast, but apparently that is not the case. plus i kind of like defending. it's fun and challenging.

The best collection ever. - migrated from high to lower trajectyory - then decided topspin was in order - horrible - working now to dial in dropping shallow and keeping it simple. Come back to the spin if this doesn't work. I think its going to.

@pickleburner

6 ай бұрын

top spin is such a trap! it ruined my drops temporarily as well.

The second shot is the most important shot. Question, how many second shots can you miss? Now how many thrid shots can you miss in a standard game?

Dude I love your videos! Really, your one of my top pickleball youtube people (and I'm pretty picky!). But I'm also so picky that that picture hanger above your head bugs the heck out of me! Please hang something on that hook or remove it and I'll be able to obsess over something else. TY!!!

In tennis, you hit on the drop too, actually near the second bounce. There is a big misconception that advanced players "hit on the rise" that's not true 95% Off the time

Don't use wrist.. unless maybe you're a seasoned badminton player. Holy cow, they are good... speed uos from nowhere.

Second shot drop is great too right? Sorry I'm coming from tennis.

Don’t over think it. Just read and react to the ball. It’s not rocket science.