Third Reich In Ruins: Munich Then and Now Part 2
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Third Reich In Ruins: Munich Then and Now Part 2
In this episode of WW2 Wayfinder, I return to Munich to look at more Then and Now photos that can be found around the centre of Munich and to gain an understanding of how the city appeared in 1945 when the Third Reich was in ruins at the end of World War 2.
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I was stationed in Munich from 1966 through 1967. The Hofbrauhaus was the main point of interest for us. There weren't many 40-50 year old men left then but occasionally they would get together in the beer hall and sing the old songs. Odd feeling. Also our laundry was done at Dachau. Just another town. I got sent to Vietnam in 1968.
@truthtriumphant
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, Sir!!!🇺🇸💪👏🫡
@Game_timeJoe
4 ай бұрын
Vietnam man Jesus Christ. My grandfather was Recon in Nam. Glad you made it home brother. Thank you for your service
@daleburrell6273
3 ай бұрын
...and to HELL with the MAINSTREAM NEWS MEDIA!!!!
@DDDD-pv7fw
3 ай бұрын
Im glad you made it home from Nam !!
Great then and now photos Jon. Interesting fact: Knowing the city would be a target for bombing Hitler ordered photos of it as it stood unblemished with the intent to rebuild to its original state. These photos were later used in the rebuilding process. Thanks for more interesting content.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you and I wasn't aware of that regarding the photos!
Superb edition. I lived in Munich in the mid 80s. It wasn’t easy to find the wartime history so I would love to see more from Munich
Another great job Jon👏. For my clan we would love a then and now of Munich. Thanks for sharing, stay safe!!!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike!
Your commentary with the then and now photos is very interesting and informative. Thanks for your continued interest in presenting WW 2 history to us.
@DaveSCameron
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely yes, this chap does such wonderful things with his diligent efforts discovering these now obscure sites along with his historical narrative which is always free of any partisan rhetoric. #Ourhistory Happy Easter to you all. 🌟🙏🐣
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I always figure that everyone has opinions on politics like everyone has holes in their backsides but doesn't mean either should be shown in public!
I live in Munich for past 11 years and being a ww2 buff myself, its amazing to see the then and now comparisons of Munich and Moosburg which you covered recently. Great work buddy!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the Bayern content! So much there often gets overlooked so it's great to visit and try and cover as much of it as possible!
Another great now and then episode Jon, thank you. Would love to see a walking tour. 🫡
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Troy. Ill hopefully have it done by June before I start putting out Normandy episodes!
Best channel on WW2 in Europe. See you in the next one Jon.
@pamcolbert713
4 ай бұрын
Totally best channel- I need to take notes!
@maartendezwaan9715
4 ай бұрын
Exactly , but don’t forget Paul’s ww2tv and History Exolorer, my personal 3 favorites ❤
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!!
Excellent work, thanks for sharing it. Please go ahead with the 1930 Munich Tour
Hi Jon Thanks for another great presentation. It’s incredible to see how Munich has transformed from the darkness of war to a beautiful city! Thanks for sharing your interesting story and the stock footage, and great editing. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤😊
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! I'll have another episode about Munich in 1945 to come as well as the walking tour of the spots to see in the city from a pre-war persepctive!
Top tier content! Really appreciate all of the hard work to make this possible.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I would love to see more from Munich, Jon! Excellent job as always! Happy Easter!!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'll have two more episodes from the city I think. Was only going to be three oringally but everyone seems happy for the 1930's one so I'll do that too!
Please do so Jon Your stories remind me of my fathers (1937) stories
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
If I can it'll be on here by June!
Thanks Jon, another awesome then and now video.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
THank you! The next T&N episode will be out this Friday hopefully from a spot in Italy!
Glad this popped up in my YT feed - great job! My Dad was there in '45 with the 20thAD and I took him back in 1980. He also had some '45 photos, so we naturally did quite a few "then" and "now" photos. On a somber note - he could not however re-visit Dachau, those memories/recollections he did not want to re-live.
@WW2Wayfinder
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for watching. Sounds like you and your Father had a very interesting trip bac to the city in 1980 and completely understand about Dachau. I can't even begin to imagine how powerful those memries would have been for him.
@philipnestor5034
3 ай бұрын
Your dad is part of the Greatest Generation! Men like him saved us!
As always another great video Jon, thank you so much for all your research! 🙏🏻 Would love to see the walking tour!!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Walking tour will be happening before June! Just need to plan some time for it but I hope to have it done before Normandy!
That was fantastic. If you ever consider doing tours, I’d be into coming. I didn’t focus on any of this kind of material in my past Munich visits.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I do hope to offer tours in the future but I change jobs this year and move house so won't have a chance to look into the possibiltiy until next year at some point but it's there for the future!
Thank you for this great video. My father was in the Third Infantry Division stationed in Munich. As an officer he could send fir his wife after the war ended. I was born there in 1947. We lived in the town of Dachau. It is very interesting for me to see this. Thank you.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing that about your family and I'm glad you enjoed the episode. I'll have another 2 from the city out in the next few weeks.
@wardkirkwood2024
4 ай бұрын
@@WW2Wayfinder great. I will definitely watch them. Even though I have no German ancestry, I have Scotch and English ancestry, and my father was there to help prosecute the criminals, I have had a lifelong discomfort with the knowledge that I was born and in Dachau.
In reply to you asking about a Munchen walk about history I’d be delighted if you would be able to give us an upload about it. 📚🙏
@DaveSCameron
4 ай бұрын
As I’m sure you’re aware there is such a wealth of nsdap architecture, artefact’s and countless other examples of the National Socialist era that I am certain that you could explain and explore for us. Best wishes.📚🙏🌟
Really appreciate all you do. Thanks
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
Yes to a Part 3! Really enjoy the research and time you put in to make these so interesting - Thank you.
Another incredible piece of work Sir and a Happy Easter to you and yours.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you and I hope you too had a very Happy Easter!
@DaveSCameron
4 ай бұрын
@@WW2Wayfinder much appreciated and really enjoying your channel. #OurHistory
I'd love to see some more then-and-now comparisons. Thank you for doing this.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I have one out this Friday, from Gran Sasso in Italy where Mussolini was rescued in 1943!
Once again excellent content Sir !!! I watched both episodes, Yes, I would love to see the 1930"s Munich tour.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
It's going to happen! If everything works out I'll have that episode out before June!
Great show. Love your work. Would love to see a show on Munich in the 1930's.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! And I will 100% be doing the walknig tour of the city in a few weeks time so keep an eye out for it!
Such a history
My uncle, Joe Lehan wrote a letter from there to my father,John Lehan.In a response to his question, my Uncle wrote,.."We had a hell of a fight on the outskirts of Munich, the krauts wouldn't let us in",..... There was an S.S. Kaserne on the north side of Munich,Germany at this time, with about 1,000 German soldiers in it. My uncle Joe Lehan was in B. Co.,179th Inf. Regt.,45th Inf. DIV., U. S. Army, Oct. 1943-Jan.1946.
@DDDD-pv7fw
3 ай бұрын
Thx for sharing! God Bless your Uncle and Family !!
Really enjoyed that Jon, awesome as always.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
Great video as always good to see you on Woody’s WW2TV channel discussion of Masters of the Air the other day too 👍
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, and it was very cool to be on WW2 TV having watched it for a number of years now!
I was in Berlin, Germany last year. We took a train to Wolfsburg. I was absolutely stunned with the amount of graffiti that was everywhere. I was really surprised the Germans didn't do a better job of removing it and holding the vandals accountable for it.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I wish they did. Graffiti is gross and pointless and certainly drags cities down I personally feel.
@warbirdwf
4 ай бұрын
I 100% percent agree with you. I thought the Germans were more disciplined and held more accountability. I bet you don't see that graffitti in Japan.@@WW2Wayfinder
@daleburrell6273
3 ай бұрын
@@warbirdwf...AW, EVERYTHING HAS GONE DOWN THE TOILET, EVERYWHERE...
The old photos look people friendly than today .
Another excellent then and now. I would like to see a walking tour of Munich,. Thank you, Jon for your insight and research of the then and now photos.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
One walking tour coming up! Will be out in a few weeks time plus another about the fight the Germans put up for the city in April 1945!
Another brilliant then and now video, you make it, i'll watch it.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'll definitely be doing the 930's walking tour of the city plus looking at a particular spot in the city where the Germans fought back during it's capture in 1945! So another 2 to come from Munich!
Great video. Educational. RS. Canada
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Any then and now, I find so fascinating .So,yes please. WW2 & American Civil War. I find so interesting. Excellent video,Thank you.
A walking tour would be awesome. I enjoy your content. Thank you.
@WW2Wayfinder
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this one and I do need to get a walking tour done ASAP!
Great video Jon.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Thanks for a great walk through Munich (in addition to part 1)! Please make a now-and-then about Munich in the 30's, much appreciated!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! I’ll definitely be doing a 1930’s walking tour of the city soon and will aim to have it on here before June!
Wonderful job thank you so much
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
You're most welcome!
Thank you.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
You're most welcome!
Fantastic history lesson! Thanks for sharing.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Love all your videos - fantastic channel and love your research level. 😊
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
Belated thanks, Jon, for another excellent video. I'd like to see your walking tour of Munich in the 1930s, so I hope you will find the time to make it.
Once again it's outstanding Jon
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope to havetwo more episodes from Munich out before or during June all being well!
Munich 1930s walk, please. Thank you 😊
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Hopefully should have it on here for June!
“…and sadly the jeeps” You’re like me- we wish we can time travel. You are really doing so, with your “then and now photos”- the best one can do without a Lorian🤣👍
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I'd need a huge time travelling truck, for all the memorabilia I'd be bringing back!!!!!
@richardmardis2492
4 ай бұрын
@@WW2Wayfinder You’re a better version of me👍🤣
Excellent. Thank you.
@WW2Wayfinder
Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! I still need to follow this up with a walking tour of the city at some point if I can find the time!
Outstanding video!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope to have two further videos from Munich in the near future. Just need to edit my Italy stuff first!
@MGB-learning
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your hard work making these outstanding videos.@@WW2Wayfinder
Thanks!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
THank you so much!
Love this stuff.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the episode!
part 1 and part 2 are both excellent videos.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ll definitely be doing a Part 3 looking at the pre-war buildings in Munich and their importance to the story of WW2.
Very interesting, thanks
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your work Can you please keep including relics such as the Tiger 2 Thanks 🇦🇺
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you and I'll try! I'm a big fan of the Tiger 2 so will always try and find a away of including one in episodes!
Fabulous video and information. Please do the 'walking tour' vid when you can.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope to have the walking tour version out before June!
Excellent picture comparisons
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I'd like to see the walking tour of Munich.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I hope to have it done and on the channel at some point before June!
You have to remember that the swastika was a good luck symbol for many decades - four L's in rotation= Love, Luck , Laughter and Light !
Thanks! Outstanding presentation/narration. Many found memories of my own search/find adventures as a military brat of the WWII history of Munich but mine are mental only - not your excellent video walking tour. Thanks again.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your support, it's very kind of you! Great that you've also been able to explore the city too and I hope it brought back some good memories!
Gran trabajo y excelente el sentido de la ubicación de todas las fotos que coinciden con los lugares como se ven en la actualidad, gracias por compartirlo con nosotros, god bless américa.
Thank you for producing this interesting video. My late grandfather Captain William McQuade commanded “A” Company of the 692nd Tank Destroyer Battalion which was attached to the 42nd Infantry Division. In researching the 692nd I am almost certain my grandfather and his fellow soldiers of the unit were there that day of the victory parades in Munich. Thank you.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Oh fantastic! Hopefully it gives you a good insight into the sights your Grandfather would have witnessed during April/May 1945 in the city. Thank you for watching!
Thank you
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
You're most welcome!
Looking at the now photos you'd think the enemy are the ones that won. Most cities outside of London look like the before photos shown.
@HossHopfkcp
4 ай бұрын
History is always written by the winners! But are the winners always good?
Walking tour would be cool to see.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
It's happening! It'll be out in a few weeks time!
Yes, a comparison of 1930;s views with current views would be most interesting.
A 1930s comparison is a definite must
thank you
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
I absolutely love the effort you put into your “then and now” photos! There aren’t too many KZread sites that provide WW2 “then and now” pics but hands down yours is the best I’ve seen!! Thanks!!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, that's very kind of you to say so. I'm always concious of trying to provide context to each image and location but without getting too into the weeds on each spot, so hopefully it strikes a reasonable balance!
@417jumps3
4 ай бұрын
@@WW2Wayfinder don’t worry!! You definitely found a reasonable balance!
I would be interested in going to berling and seeing picture comparisons 😊
Can you show pictures of the old Munich railroad station and how it looks now?
@Thomas-Gr
4 ай бұрын
If You look at around 5:48, You will see to the far right the last remains of the around 1969 modernized Central Station. The whole block behind and to the right used to be the entry hall, about 200m behind are the tracks. They are building a completely new structure here, with subway and city train stations 60 meters below ground. You might find more in the net.
hi do you have any recommendations of picture books for munchen many thanks
I did a stumbling tour of Munich- it would nice to see it in focus for once. Oktoberfest was a blast! Still got one of those beer mugs that I stole 🤣
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
hahahahahah
Awesome video. Yeah if u could do a then and now of the Nazi buildings that’d be great. Cheers
I would love to see the walking tour.
Muy emotivos tus videos
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Would you be able to still find the Munich Beer hall Putsch site Jon..??
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Yes, but the old bier kellar was torn down post war and is now just a modern office building so sadly then and nows aren't possible but the location is still accesable.
great video would like to know the route you did as i am going in aug 2024. walking tour sounds a good idea also
@WW2Wayfinder
3 ай бұрын
If you start at the Marienplatz most places in Munich are about a 20 minute walk max. The route I took in this was a bit all over the place so I’d recommend Google Earth (or Google Maps) focusing on the old city and picking out the key spots you’d like to see (the English Garden is a must in my opinion - huge open space and beer gardens!!!). If you go to the Hofbrauhaus find out the opening times and be there 10 minutes before it opens. It gets crazy busy there everyday and the food is just ok (but over priced). The beer is good and it’s worth it for that but there are better places to eat!
Yes vote for walking tour 1930s
Unless it's already been done a now and then of battle of Cologne. e.g. the Tank Duel at the Cathedral
Yes please do Jon I would a more in depth video ,the more you do the better we understand how things evolved in the third Reich and there down fall.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
It's going to happen! I hope to film it in the next few weeks in between editing the footage from my recent Italy trip. Thanks too for watching this one!
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@WW2Wayfinder
3 ай бұрын
You’re most welcome! Slowly trying to add a wide range of subtitles to all of my older videos. Thanks for watching and have a great weekend!
Love to see if possible a "thern and now" of occupied Paris sights; Gestaop hdqtrs; prominent hotels; even Nazi brothels
30 years in Munich - yes it is.
You forgot to mention that the Königsplatz was completely paved with granite tiles of about 1.5 metres square by the Nazis to use it as a place for their pompous parades. The tiles are clearly visible in the later footage. It was then used mostly as a huge parking lot, and us Munichians had a big controversial struggle to get it rebuilt to its nearly original design from the around 1830. Many right wingers (and neonazis) believed the heroic and quite sterile "Plattensee" (sea of tiles) should remain.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Can’t mention what I didn’t know so thank you for the additional information.
👍
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
whoever sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind..... says it all really dosent it !
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Very much so!
Those flags appear to be US state flags, I believe I saw the Tennessee flag. (Red, blue circle with 3 stars)
@johns8771
4 ай бұрын
I think it was MacArthur who commanded the 42nd during WW 1 who said the rainbow stretched all across America, thus their divisional ceremonies always included every state flag.
By the Nazis, Munich was called 'Die Hauptstadt der Bewegung'. At 9:54, a 155 mm howitzer can be seen.
German art building and swastika design in the roof similar to that which appears in the Senate chamber of the U.S. capitol.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, that's interesting!
Love your videos, would like to see what remains of Carinhall and Goebbel's house the Bogensee.
At 2:22 I see there is "free ass" - get in.
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
I didn't spot it when I filmed but wondered if anyone would spot it after I saw it when I was editing it!!!!!
I already lost.
why can you not find local guides that know Munich in past years , help you ?
I do enjoy the videos but I find it very sad when all you seem to show is the defeat of Germany etc and just allie victories etc. Maybe show a bit more of German life during and not after
Germany NS lost the second war, but the ideology planted will never die!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Agreed.
Shame they’re knocking down so much of their history..
@WW2Wayfinder
3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Munich isn’t too bad for it but other parts have suffered and I don’t personally believe we can escape our past by destroying buildings. I know there’s a lot more to it than that but in general we have to remember our past so we know where we’re going!
When I was there in the mid 80s anything of military was not interesting- going to the beer houses was🤣 It’s only while I’m out of the military, that anything militaristic is of interest 🤣 🫡
Thanks!
@WW2Wayfinder
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support!