Thinking is a reaction to memory | Krishnamurti

Extract from the first talk in Saanen, 1981. Watch the full video at • J. Krishnamurti - Saan...
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  • @KINGJUNAID555
    @KINGJUNAID55528 күн бұрын

    This Is Real Treasure...

  • @discoteque7768
    @discoteque776825 күн бұрын

    What he is basically saying is that we are the product of a vicious cycle of thoughts that automatically repeat because we reinforce them over and over again instead of questioning them. These thoughts lead us to repeat a series of behaviors impulsively. To go beyond, we must pay attention to how they give us incorrect information, based on personal experiences and beliefs, preventing us from seeing things as they reallly are.

  • @veganm8918

    @veganm8918

    19 күн бұрын

    Questioning thought is more thought. Observing the thought and the process of thought generation with detachment and without getting involved in them is consciousness. One who practices this diligently eventually experiences fewer thoughts, can learn to simply look away from them, and can remain in the seat of self for longer periods and more often.

  • @JumpingRock-oo7br

    @JumpingRock-oo7br

    19 күн бұрын

    How do you watch thoughts?can you practically eloborate​@@veganm8918

  • @frodobaggins6270

    @frodobaggins6270

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@veganm8918 this is exactly what I thought when I read the comment. "Questioning is a form of thought." Asking why you think something only provides answers, which are also thoughts, then you question those thoughts; still the same cycle exists... samsara to the Buddhists.

  • @BoondockCarpentry

    @BoondockCarpentry

    15 күн бұрын

    And I would even say... It's so easy a baby could do it

  • @RichaChauhandreams

    @RichaChauhandreams

    8 күн бұрын

    @@veganm8918 Questioning thought correctly is also a powerful technique to stop further thoughts... when mind is very turbulent and just observing seems difficult then questioning helps calm it to some extent .. it can then be followed by observation to help in dissolution of thought.

  • @shantak1277
    @shantak127728 күн бұрын

    From experience comes knowledge, then memory, then thought/thinking……then action……then learning from this action. This whole cycle repeats itself. Our lives are caught in this cycle. Everyone’s personal experiences and knowledge isn’t the same. Therefore conflict with another is bound to happen. Knowledge is past. So it’s limited. Past knowledge may serve us in the technological field. But it cannot help us in the psychological field. In the psychological field we are dealing with something that’s living and changing constantly. Therefore it requires a new approach in each moment. Right action can only come about when we drop all thinking and allow action to come naturally, effortlessly, without even one’s knowing. Just let go (past)and surrender to what is (present).

  • @onkar8112
    @onkar81127 күн бұрын

    This is the greatest quote ,I have ever come across ...

  • @mirailieva8849
    @mirailieva884928 күн бұрын

    All these intrusive thoughts in my head for years on end. I must have physical tracks in my brain from all these repetitive loops. Not to mention when the thoughts start fighting each other and scream at each other, which feels that it will explode my head.

  • @classicalpsychedelia

    @classicalpsychedelia

    21 күн бұрын

    U r not alone my friend. It's been the story of my life. I think he's alluding to h Thought itself being the prison it wishes to escape and hence the madness.

  • @solomit1
    @solomit126 күн бұрын

    The key is to look understand the nature of thought !💗

  • @48038
    @4803824 күн бұрын

    Childhood memories teenage memories Youth time memories Relationship memories Joy & pain memories Success & setback memories Old age memories timeless memories

  • @xhulianododaj6412
    @xhulianododaj64129 күн бұрын

    I observed as he says to do and came to this conclusion before I saw this video. Everything he says it’s true.

  • @rubemaragao2368
    @rubemaragao236828 күн бұрын

    I loved it! Thanks!

  • @Zeeshan-bv7mo
    @Zeeshan-bv7mo23 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing... ⚓

  • @williamcitan
    @williamcitan27 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your teachings ❤ Right there is truth of our cyclical “mechanical“ existence

  • @saurabhbhatnagar2469
    @saurabhbhatnagar246928 күн бұрын

    we are memory, nothing else.

  • @haskilam5679

    @haskilam5679

    28 күн бұрын

    No don't miss understand, we or I is different from all these

  • @Seforis-er2oc

    @Seforis-er2oc

    25 күн бұрын

    Nah, you may say we can very much be conditioned by memory, but it is exactly because of this that we are not memory. It is not easy to define what we are. But believe me, whatever we are, there's those who are interested to find out and there's those who don't.

  • @maheshkumar374

    @maheshkumar374

    24 күн бұрын

    then who is that knows the memory?😮

  • @dharmnayak5474

    @dharmnayak5474

    23 күн бұрын

    @@maheshkumar374 it is yet another thought. A thought which has extracted the content from the database of memory and thinks of itself as an entity independent from the thinking process. But it is the same. The observer (a thought) is the observed (a thought as well)

  • @curtisgrindahl446

    @curtisgrindahl446

    23 күн бұрын

    You might want to check out Advaita Vedanta or Dzogchen.

  • @rotgutthebloated4730
    @rotgutthebloated473021 күн бұрын

    This video really nicely and in short explained how our thoughts work.

  • @colilightning8165
    @colilightning816528 күн бұрын

    Woah

  • @robertopuccianti8498
    @robertopuccianti849827 күн бұрын

    🙏❤🌻

  • @trivvenivarma3032
    @trivvenivarma303228 күн бұрын

  • @mohitmeena9500
    @mohitmeena950019 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @kft

    @kft

    17 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your generous donation

  • @malathijha9586
    @malathijha958628 күн бұрын

    Incredible beauty in this teaching! God bless this saint who kept on teaching despite having cancer. We Are privileged in this age of enlightenment❤🎉😢

  • @regidon6816

    @regidon6816

    28 күн бұрын

    he didn belevie in god tho lol

  • @vish6306
    @vish630628 күн бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @chiffre-nummer8475
    @chiffre-nummer847528 күн бұрын

    Feeling is living.

  • @ngocdo4536
    @ngocdo453628 күн бұрын

    🙏

  • @user-gp1zy3up7y
    @user-gp1zy3up7y5 күн бұрын

    Without memory you can think, but know nothing: Chhandogya Upanishad. But J Krishnamurti said without memory one can't think.

  • @ipvijayakumar119
    @ipvijayakumar11924 күн бұрын

    wawawa

  • @lawreence-5234
    @lawreence-523423 күн бұрын

    Agreed...

  • @DailySattvik
    @DailySattvik28 күн бұрын

    The point that struck me most about Krishnamurti ji was that he was always an advocate of understanding the root cause of our problems like in this video, not just trying to find quick-fixes to them. If we can apply his teachings, we will not try to cover fractures in our way of living with bandages. Another quote on the same subject by Krishnamurti ji: “To most people, thinking is but a reaction. . . Then it is no longer thinking, for then it is uncreative. Most people say that they think but are blindly following their reactions; they have certain standards, certain ideas, according to which they act."

  • @Poemsapennyeach

    @Poemsapennyeach

    22 күн бұрын

    You missed the deeper message in this video alas. He never uses the word problems. I suggest you watch it again as it is you who have applied the quick bandage here.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri23826 күн бұрын

    🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

  • @BoondockCarpentry
    @BoondockCarpentry15 күн бұрын

    It's so easy a baby can do it

  • @jfbessin
    @jfbessin28 күн бұрын

    Pourquoi cela parait simple quand j'écoute K et puis ça ce complique dans ma vie quotidienne ?

  • @tomdube7985

    @tomdube7985

    28 күн бұрын

    Au début c'est normal, mais il faut toujours pratiquer, vous allez réussir. Ça prends un peu de temps .( avoir de la patience.)

  • @QurlirtyBrainwave

    @QurlirtyBrainwave

    25 күн бұрын

    It's because of the way Jiddu talks about it. I think Jiddu fails to acknowledge that the realization of the movement of thought happens only through a gradual process. He talks to everyone as if it it obvious from birth. But it isn't. It makes me think that he didn't struggle coming to the realization of the movement of thought, because anyone who has or who is trying to, will acknowledged how difficult it is but it is achievable. It is so difficult, that, if i were Jiddu, i wouldn't bother talking about it, because it just creates more confusion. And in a way, because of his refusal to say directly how to achieve it because he doesn't want to create a system for others to follow, he, indirectly does what he doesn't want to do.

  • @NghiLa-yv6kv
    @NghiLa-yv6kv28 күн бұрын

    💖💖💖💖💖!..

  • @nicholaskostopulos8631
    @nicholaskostopulos863121 күн бұрын

    In a few sentences, he summarized Shakespeare and the art of drama, conflicts arising from limited knowledge born from the temporal process of forming memory, which seems to be the brain’s interface with external reality .. “To be, or not to remember, that is the question..” Hamletv2

  • @Inquiring_Together
    @Inquiring_Together28 күн бұрын

    Yes, thought is limited, and something that is limited, by very definition, is separative, divisive, contradictive, or conflictive. Take a look at this world and its experts, leaders, and rulers to see that that thought's limitation hasn't dawned on them yet.

  • @yuewenb
    @yuewenb23 күн бұрын

    Emotions also come from memory reacting to the now. I will give a brief explanation. If you see a stranger who is of average health, looks and not being violent or crazy, one will have no or very little emotions towards them. Now if one has not seen a relative or close friend in a couple years, there will be strong emotions from the past memories upon seeing them. Our true self is not what we are aware of whether the memory, our temporary physical body, a tree, nor our thought ( when the thought stops, our awareness does not stop), nor are we the chatty egoic mind or emotions. We are the AWARENESS of all of those! Or existence and awareness. Have you ever observed something for the 1st time? So nothing to compare it to or judge it by, just pure awareness and wonder. One is picking up lot’s of new information. Now for most (not Krishnamurti) the 2nd time they see the same thing, they go into their minds and memory which if of the past and can project into the future, but limits the current seeing! The memory has its place and uses, but not here. It is for remembering your password and wisdom learned and such. Until one becomes AWARE one is doing this, they will keep repeating this. Do you know why many who practice meditation until they finally get it observe their breathing? One’s breath is in the now and exercises observation rather than memory and the chatty egoic mind. It also tend to slow one’s breath as does slow deep breathing which has an affect of calming and slowing the mind/thoughts. One’s breath is also what connects our eternal spiritual self to this temporary physical body.

  • @mirailieva8849
    @mirailieva884923 күн бұрын

    “To see the world with eyes untouched by the past.” - Jiddu Krishnamurti This means not to negate the past and forget it, but to see “what is” without an emotional reaction recorded in the brain. Otherwise, you will not be able to meet the present properly. This is how wild animals are. Scarface (the lion) dragged himself for 25 km when he was at death’s door to the place of his birth and died naturally where he was born at 14 years old. 14 years of heavy lifting work in nature, there are no slackers in nature, otherwise you cannot survive, and Scarface succeeding in preserving his memory for 14 years without ever getting psychologically scarred facing all sorts of violent events. He lived a very demanding, violent life and still not psychologically scarred. Only humans and animals under their domain, domestic and similar, record an emotional reaction. This is what happens when you divorce from nature. All sorts of pathologies. The truth (the natural) has not been in operation for thousands and thousands of years.

  • @rickleitch1036
    @rickleitch103628 күн бұрын

    Did this man practice what he preached? Anybody know him well?

  • @dutran5642

    @dutran5642

    27 күн бұрын

    it wasnt about him. it is about what he tried to show you. finger pointing at the moon. 🙏

  • @shaojiumahou3677

    @shaojiumahou3677

    24 күн бұрын

    Of course.Don't you know Krishnamurti? Jiddu Krishnamurti was an Indian philosopher and speaker known for his insightful and independent approach to exploring fundamental existential questions.

  • @Saserino
    @Saserino17 күн бұрын

    Thought should not be given that much value, is all he is saying. It is based on your experiences and your experiences are just 1% of the universe.

  • @mayankchaturvedi570
    @mayankchaturvedi57022 күн бұрын

    So what then. Nothing happens after this is understood.

  • @nageshramteke6437
    @nageshramteke643728 күн бұрын

    All the listeners instead of listening this try vippassna once in your life

  • @Bisht32

    @Bisht32

    25 күн бұрын

    Then what you doing here bro 🤔

  • @vali11-11

    @vali11-11

    24 күн бұрын

    Instead of? Really? Do you think that, if you do enough vipassana and only vipassana, you will become enlightened? 🙂

  • @mayankchaturvedi570

    @mayankchaturvedi570

    22 күн бұрын

    I tried to fill their form multiple times and I didn't get selected

  • @mendezmendez7146
    @mendezmendez714625 күн бұрын

    His teachings has some similarities with heidegger

  • @nageshramteke6437
    @nageshramteke643728 күн бұрын

    Vippassna will more useful than philosophy

  • @Ejo.handpan

    @Ejo.handpan

    26 күн бұрын

    For what?

  • @manaskritiinstituteoflearn6807

    @manaskritiinstituteoflearn6807

    25 күн бұрын

    This is not philosophy by the way

  • @dr.dhirajsinhamedicalconsu577
    @dr.dhirajsinhamedicalconsu57722 күн бұрын

    🌹🌹🙏🙏

  • @GeoCoppens
    @GeoCoppens24 күн бұрын

    Stop the rubbish, Kris!

  • @mallapparaj5639
    @mallapparaj563927 күн бұрын

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    23 күн бұрын

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    17 күн бұрын

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    @KINGJUNAID55528 күн бұрын

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