If that's true, I think JYP's reason is logical. Hybe is fine too.

@kkqum9

Жыл бұрын

Yes 👍🏻👍🏻

@gipsymelody1268

Жыл бұрын

Not that much… cause even ig there is talent they Still very Young kids like 16-17 mostly… or even if they are 19 Still very unexperienced! Talent is just a thing if you not keep and practice then it will be “dirty” (It’s Vica-reverse cause even if you are very hard working Still if you has no talent… 😬🧐) Also kpop never meant about the talent… 😅😂 even the most talented singer in the kpop is just very “fine” in the worldwide… mostly if we compring with the legends like michael Jackson and freddie mercury……… or just Bruno Mars…

@arushisharma7616

Жыл бұрын

@@gipsymelody1268 but that’s the thing why box K-pop into these puppets tht can’t create their own art from the starting n only focus on looks n concepts rather than actual musical talent?? BTS became international artists and have been active for 10 years now because they broke tht mould.If we want K-pop artists to succeed in the long run n not fade out K-pop should focus on musical talent. As for support HYBE is the only one tht has a mental health support team for trainees and artists. While companies like YG and SM have long been known for mistreatment of trainees as well not paying attention to artists tht don’t get high profits

@liaselleaeri

Жыл бұрын

how's it logical exactly???

@LeoHope

Жыл бұрын

@liaselle3385 I think it’s logical because they do spend a lot of money on trainees as well. I don’t think they immediately dismiss trainees that don’t do well. Don’t they do multiple evaluations in a year to see the progress of trainees? I guess if a trainee is not improving after multiple evals then that’s when they drop them? Correct me if I’m wrong though 😅

Basically the traits the companies look for: YG - patient SM - compliant Hybe - self-reliant JYP - fast-learner

@Nyx_-.046

6 ай бұрын

Thats true

@tzuyukiwichou2892

6 ай бұрын

Jyp - dedication to improve, not just being a fast learner. Theyre looking for the trainees' attitude on how much they really want to be an idol.

@csy897

6 ай бұрын

They say lack of teachers like it is a bad thing but that means you get less debt and more autonomy to learn what you want and more ownership of your process

@thomas261989

6 ай бұрын

​@@csy897 SM artists get paid as soon as the money comes in, without having to pay back lessons and management fees

@brieferrell7193

6 ай бұрын

@@tzuyukiwichou2892 also adaptability - if you learn fast you can change and repute fast too

You may debut late in yg but you can't deny that every group they debuted has found success in their career they also pay salaries way earlier

@MadeleinesMadeleines

Ай бұрын

And have a comeback once in a blue moon. They love dungeon dwellers apparently.

@swastisingh3669

Ай бұрын

​@@MadeleinesMadeleines at least have high status in terms of fame Unlike hybe presenting autotunea

@anupmagautam5106

7 күн бұрын

​​@@MadeleinesMadeleines atleast this helps the idols to prepare well for their comeback

JYP’s thing is pretty logical in my opinion. Would you keep your trainee under your company for years on end just to let them down after them training for 4+ years? If they don’t see enough potential or improvement it’s better for the company to not invest and better for the trainees mental health to not have false hope. For me personally, I’d rather get cut off by JYP one year into training with them rather than having them wait to watch my skills improve or to see my potential just to cut me off after giving me false hope.

@Mosha.Bear.SK.

7 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure BangChang from Straykids was training for like 8 years before jyp decided to debut him

@H_In_Your_Areaa_Ayoo

7 ай бұрын

Actually the second option is Better bc then you’d be talented enough to get accepted into any other agency

@H_In_Your_Areaa_Ayoo

7 ай бұрын

@@Mosha.Bear.SK.and jihyo for 10

@Mosha.Bear.SK.

7 ай бұрын

@@H_In_Your_Areaa_Ayoo yeh

@hyiso811

6 ай бұрын

Because they were talented enough but didnt fit the concept of Got7@@Mosha.Bear.SK.

Jyp makes a lot of sense considering they see their trainees as investments and offers free stuff like therapists and balanced meals

@mordecaiissad8529

Жыл бұрын

Except when they ban you and revoke your food so you starve and lose weight.

@gimlisonofgloin4083

Жыл бұрын

Moreover, trainees wouldn’t spend MUCH MORE time like yg and might try something else like acting or just focus on education at school.

@between1218

Жыл бұрын

@@gimlisonofgloin4083agreed. At least JYP trainees knows early on if they’re gonna make it or not. Unfortunately they might let go of some hidden gems but as long as these trainees are persistent they will make it inevitably. Chaeyeon/Mashiro for instance.

@chenles_defender

Жыл бұрын

It makes sense for them.

@queenj8886

Жыл бұрын

Right & I hope the therapist things is true! I'd just be careful about glorifying JYP too much tho, since we don't know what be behind the scenes. Also according to Bang Chan it can still be rigorous because it makes an impact of many teens self worth & self esteem, especially since there are a lot of sacrifices. And you can get depressed from the friends u lose. A tough proc ss but I know things usually gets better and one of the lesser evils compared to how SM treated Exo🤢 I'm glad JYP has been prioritizing a lot of their artist health and safety a lot more lately tho✨

JYPe kicking out people easily is probably because they don't have trainee debt, they can't afford into spending money on someone who's not making the expected progress, they want someone who learns fast or that has a bit of training already, cheaper on the agency, cheaper for the idol as well. If it's like that it's really logic and convenient for both sides

@mariapiccioni5974

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t think about that but true

@bruh2110

Жыл бұрын

True that

@llae27

Жыл бұрын

agreed. but as for the trainee debt, I suppose even yg, sm and hybe doesn't have trainee debt system, isn't that right?

@vanillarose4179

Жыл бұрын

@@llae27 Not sure now. But back then during 2pm era, they have debt system. That Jaypark case also. Sm is the only one known company that's absolutely didn't implement debt system. Yg and hybe unknown.

@grammercorrectionjake4658

Жыл бұрын

I think its a good way of saving their (the trainee’s) time too Ive seen trainees of 7 years not being able to debut at the end, and their time wasted

People : the big four are horrible companies they are kicking out trainees who don't progress like that's sooo horrible ! CUBE entertainement : oOuuPsss 💀

@quanganhnguyenuc6282

8 ай бұрын

Lmao not that horrible company xD

@tasi4372

7 ай бұрын

​@@quanganhnguyenuc6282Cube is bad at managing their groups. They literally have just one active group now because they messed up all the other groups.

@Weshallstealbananamilk

6 ай бұрын

Not big 4 though it's hybe and big3

@Amduckie-Ineednotforget

6 ай бұрын

People consider hybe as one of the "big 3" now since they created groups like newjeans and bts and many more popular ones, I just stated the most popular groups. @@Weshallstealbananamilk

@dixi-chan6410

6 ай бұрын

​@Weshallstealbananamilk well hybe is kinda bigger than all three so everyone just calls it big4 to make it easier

Meanwhile Eunhyuk: SM didn't let me to do surgery because if I changed one features, i need to change the others too LMFAO

@H_In_Your_Areaa_Ayoo

7 ай бұрын

Huh?

@LP-ct9nk

6 ай бұрын

The commenter is saying that SM told Eunhyuk not to do surgery, because he would have to get multiple since changing one part on his face would throw off the rest

@yarareshetnykova

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

With HYBE, actually I don't believe that they have less training with the trainees. Sakura said that only with HYBE, she had proper training most especially with her voice. Kazuha also trained most especially in dancing because she practiced almost all of her life in ballet. She needs to train modern dance that is why HYBE sent a dancer trainer to her. Another thing, they have a hard evaluation. So I believe that they do have trainers in those categories.

@babbes4210

Жыл бұрын

They do have training there. But maybe less so they have the freedom to develop their own style.

@M.slarmie8

Жыл бұрын

Yess agreed

@squid__4951

Жыл бұрын

i think thats for trainee who hasn't been fixed into any group yet. maybe to let them find their own style and colors before grouping them all together to give them the proper training that would actually match and work for them later. i think its way better than shaping them all into the same colors which would be a shame. like maybe they also want more determined trainees because that would be a waste spending the resources on kids that doesnt really know what theyre getting into and just do it for the sake of it, not because thats genuinely what they dreamed and wanted for

@choisan814

Жыл бұрын

@@squid__4951 yeah its true. they only get proper training after thet got into the lineup to sharpened their talent more n to develop teamwork

@AlokitaVerma

Жыл бұрын

​@@squid__4951 exactly!! hybe is the best when it comes to the welfare of its artists...maybe had decline a bit in recent yrs but when bang PD was the ceo, bighit was legit the bestest of best out there!!!

Sm's lead to perfection has ruined so many idols. I am not saying that plastic surgery is bad but if it is against the wish of the person and pressuring then that's bad. But what can we do, thus industry is heavily dependent on visual > talent. I wish that kpop Stans didn't pressurise the idols as well upon their beauty, y'all are the reason of the cause.

@oo-il6ks

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's true, I mean the creator doesn't have any proof/evidence of this.

@nikolashakos_

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's SM. They are known everywhere for their obsession with appearance. If I had a euro for every SM idol who said they debuted because a random staff approached them on the street and offered them a place to debut, I would have enough money to buy Twitter from Elon Musk.

@oo-il6ks

Жыл бұрын

@@nikolashakos_ but doesn't every company do it? I mean there are idols in other companies who are also cast like that. It's an industry that loves visuals, it's not Sm that is only doing it, And how can you say that sm ruined many idols. Where are the evidences/ proof? Sm ruined some idols, who? After all it's a statement. I'm genuinely curious about it.

@nikolashakos_

Жыл бұрын

@@oo-il6ks Yes, but SM takes it to a whole different level. Most groups have 1 or 2 members who became trainees and idols because of their visuals, and then there is NCT under SM Entertainment, in which 70% of their members got accepted to their company thanks to their appearance, and we are talking about a 23 member group. These are too many visual members. It's just embarrassing. Also, when did I say "they ruined many idols"? Did you see the word "ruin" anywhere in my comment?

@bella7162

Жыл бұрын

​​​​@@nikolashakos_ they are still talented as fuck tho nct is not only a group of visuals but also a group of really fucking good singers and rappers so they didnt get accepted only because of their visuals.....

The thing about yg is that even if u didn't debut u will be at least super talented and could go to other company and debut like Miyeon from (G)I-dle

YG is very picky about debuting the trainee. Promising doesn't mean you debut if you are not improving. They pick the most talented one that deserved to be debuted. You know that YG paid the most salary to their idol so debuting the talented one is the key for the group to be successful and worth paid.

@ednoreason7522

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 💯

Being a trainee in JYPe is a pathway to be successful as a lot of successful artists and idols were once a trainee under JYPe or even debuted in JYP such as Hyuna, Jay Park & Somi

@themelati89

Жыл бұрын

Chaeyeong, daehwi, mashiro, shownu, etc.

@teachermotovlog701

Жыл бұрын

Hyolyn of Sistar and IU were also trainees of JYP.

@Anjan_-

Жыл бұрын

@@teachermotovlog701 they failed the audition

@ohslytherin94

9 ай бұрын

Basically, JYP is sucks handling them. That's all. They left and debuted in other agencies and success by their own effort.

@frenssnacq9598

8 ай бұрын

@@teachermotovlog701hyolyn is not a trainee lol😆she got rejected by jyp in an audition cuzz jyp think she's ugly

Hybe one is pretty cool I think-they just want to have talented trainees, not crap or something. In this way they can check, who has potential and true skills.

@notmyname3556

Жыл бұрын

That's not the right way actually. The reason why you have training is to instill them with a solid foundation of their technique. The biggest problem in kpop always has been their idols actually lack foundation in dancing, singing and rapping. It's like you went to school but the teachers refused to teach you, and expect you to learn all by yourself. Dance class etc aren't cheap at all if they want to afford it on their own.

@ecorpse404

Жыл бұрын

@@notmyname3556 Im really happy that someone decided to write their opinion. It's kinda true what you saying, but I personally didn't see any kpop idol from Hybe, who is total crap and lack in stage presence or dance or something else. I'm aware that trainees go there to GET training and lessons not to make them on their own,but in this way they learn how to be creative.

@shrimpcat99

Жыл бұрын

@not my name is it true? Or just rumour? they even appointed one sub-company for debuting one girl group. I'm not sure if there is no teacher.

@claudiamerticariu2025

Жыл бұрын

@@notmyname3556 actually Hybe didn't give so much help until they have the grup formed. After it start the true trainees lessons I know it from a ex hybe probationer

@notmyname3556

Жыл бұрын

@@claudiamerticariu2025 wow, that's very odd. Like how do you know if they have undiscovered talent, like many idols out there especially those from sm became trainees from zero skill in certain area, but received proper training, and found out they're really good at something. A whole wasted talent really, if they reject trainees like that. Wonder how the requirements like

If I had to debut, i would chose yg as the groups get their salaries right after debut💀

@Dina-zb2cv

Жыл бұрын

And the only company when the trainee doesn't have any debt!

But yg do cover all of the trainees expenses tho😂, they doesn’t even have any debt when they leave n just need to move on and find a better place that can accept them for who they are

@LupinLupinLupin

Жыл бұрын

That's true. YG trainees are treated best in terms of financial assistance and they debut with no debts.

Jyp's reason is logical tho, why waste years of training if that thing was not meant for you!

@thashnathroopa

4 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you.

You forgot one thing : you don't have to talented just be pretty and have rich parents and you get in

@soyeonsoulmate

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's kinda sad :( Last time I saw a short on KZread and ig it was a kind of survival show (im not sure at all) and there was two girls who perfom Nonstop by Oh My Girl. They was really pretty but they didn't sing well at all 😕

@beatricevespasien6588

Жыл бұрын

​@@soyeonsoulmate Yes ! This scene is so sad ☹️ and there were 2 girls with a more rock style but people didn't vote because of beauty standards.... A judge (member of G-idle) has also criticized this in the series.

@sapphia4612

Жыл бұрын

I mean, many idols come from rich parents and i am okay with that because these idols are talented (Lia, giselle, Lisa, rose, Minnie, sorn,chanbing,etc.) However if there is favoritsim between looks or richness then that's a problem (which mostly happens, like in xiaoting's case).

@karinasnooodles_

Жыл бұрын

@@sapphia4612 there definitely is😭

@ecorpse404

Жыл бұрын

Yup, but that's in all of the agencies I think 🤔

I don’t think YG promises quick debut anymore, people knows it’ll take a long time to debut there 😅

@_StarNotHere_

6 ай бұрын

or maybe they're seeing if you're patient

YG took the Indian quote seriously😂which is the result of patience is successful 😂

You made it like SM the worst among the others about this. SM never forced their trainees to do plastic surgery. Haechan said that he wasn’t allowed to get plastic surgery and denied having it. A member of Super Junior also denied plastic surgery rumors except heechul for his nose bcs an accident and kyuhyun for his double eyelids. Eunhyuk said SM forbade him tho. SM never forced seulgi to get ps bcs her monolid eyes.

I understand the fact that hybe wants to have the best of the best but through training also a person can become the best (if there is dedicated training that is) a singer or dancer can improve themselves so much.

@doomdude69

Жыл бұрын

Yeah sounds like theyre being cheap not hiring coaches and teachers.

@adrijamondal3736

Жыл бұрын

But the thing is that when u are self trained u will get more perfection and if u have any mistake on stage u can cover it by yourself coz u know how to do it

@idol7833

Жыл бұрын

​@@adrijamondal3736 you mean professionalism? How about to those doesn't have experienced yet and they want to be an idol how will she/he improve? Sometimes they need a teacher to add more that make them special 'cause not all have an ideal talent for being kpop idol😁

@idol7833

Жыл бұрын

​@@adrijamondal3736 but you have a point in that way, but sometimes they still need a teacher unless some members are gifted to teach him/her especially some members are too young to empower him/her up.🤔😁

@adrijamondal3736

Жыл бұрын

@@idol7833 that's when u either become independent or it's a chance to get well along with your members maybe some of the older teens in the members can help them which may lead to a family type thing and they will be close and will also show teamwork.... U may have different opinions but also jisoo is self trained vocalist in yg ent

SM probably will not do that again, But people often forgot that only SM have idols like shindong n amber. Not even smaller company do that, even back then, or even if they do they made it a hard publicity then end up doing badly. Idk, I just think it will be the same in every company when it comes to plastic surgery

@Dahnamoji7

8 ай бұрын

And that was like 15 years ago 💀 now 5 out of 10 idols look the same you can clearly see the look they are going for, Wendy changed face like 3 times in her career and not like chaewon when she went from izone being young to lesserefim but I mean actually looking different from before,

@IBringDramamamamia

8 ай бұрын

@@Dahnamoji7 but I think Wendy's face changed mostly after that falling accident that she had to do surgery for

@katr_i_na

8 ай бұрын

@@Dahnamoji7Plenty of idols from other companies completely change their face, let’s be real. Chaeyeon, Jessi, Chungha, Yuna, Chaeryeong, Bom, Lisa, Momo, Sakura, Yeonjun, Heeseung, Joshua, Bangchan, Felix, Hyunjin, Changbin, etc. In fact, it’s worse with smaller companies bc they don’t have as good plastic surgeons or the money to afford better, more natural facial changes. Only Aespa in SM have noticeably different features and Wendy of RV. SHINee, the rest of RV, Ningning, NCT, EXO, all have had fairly subtle plastic surgery, which is what SM’s originally known for.

@Dahnamoji7

8 ай бұрын

@@IBringDramamamamia I know that is why I said 3 times, while we can’t hold her for the 3 time as we don’t know how much she sufferd before that she also changed

@Dahnamoji7

8 ай бұрын

@@katr_i_na momo looks exactly the same as her photos and vidoes of when she was young and dancing? Also Yuna has school pictures of her looking the exact same Did they do small changes maybe I can’t tell but I would say YG and jyp do it like sm Sm genuinely has type they like Look at aespa

Well YG just want their trainees to be more patience and have more confident and boost trainees talents but all of their tiredness is worth it because idols in YG incomes are bigger than the entertainment

Don't know but I liked HYbe one though 😂

bang pd has been quoted saying that what he looks for in trainees is 3 main categories: teamwork, assertiveness, and future potential.

@randomluv2323

Жыл бұрын

He only manages bighit and focus more priorities there

@jjay107

Жыл бұрын

@randomluv he was the ceo of hybe, and a current chairman in the board, I think bang pd had a big influence on what the corporation's culture and subsequent companies should focus on, the video generalized trainees experience when there's many companies under hybe. So at least where bang pd is involved under hybe, he looks for potential, trainees also have a lot of lessons avaliable to them before they debute which I think would mean they care about building up their trainees

@vbsliker3000

11 ай бұрын

you forgot looks and being skinny 😂

@CaroCaro7517

8 ай бұрын

@@vbsliker3000BTS was called ugly back in the day you feel me. If they were choosing looks over skills, then young emo BTS wouldn’t debut

@beauregarden

8 ай бұрын

​@@CaroCaro7517 Yeah, but that was 10 years ago. Things have changed a lot. Even back then people still saw groups like 2NE1, BTS and Mamamoo as anomalies who "beat the odds despite not fitting beauty standards due to exceptional talent" rather than the standard for how all groups should be. It's even more difficult to enter the industry now if you are super talented but don't fit the beauty standards, because there is a higher focus on visuals and everyone lipsyncs 😂

If you watch I-Land, you know how Bang Sihyuk asked Rain and Zico to not only look at the skills that the trainees have but to look more at the potential they have. So, it's not true that you have to be very talented in the first place to be their trainee. They see potential in you, whether you are able to develop further or not. Moa and Engene might know how Yeonjun and Heeseung said that when they entered Bighit, their dance skills were below the other trainees, yet a few years later they became the most multitalented trainees and dance prodigy. I would say that Hybe is more of a perfectionist in evaluation. When we think their performance is already good but their trainer feels they can do more than that, then they will be criticized. That way trainees know they can keep pushing and expand the potential they have, which ends up creating a lot of all-rounders.

@beomcute

6 ай бұрын

Wow, I must say this is well-said

@sunreads

2 ай бұрын

also trainee A showed how strict they are about trainees training and how hard they need to work and how many possibilities they have. at least big hit. they send their trainees to usa for dance lessons and basking in the streets, they have to learn to produce their own songs and sing them while dancing. l idk i think what is written in the video is what the author thinks or maybe it’s true only for other sub labels.

“HYBE offer less teachers and practice instruction” No wonder….😌😌

@Bts_fan_Noorie

12 күн бұрын

Why do you mean?

You can say whatever you want about the big 4 but something they do offer their trainees is immediate and I mean IMMEDIATE popularity and success. It is almost impossible for groups that com from the big 4 to fail . The difference about debuting in a smaller label/company with a the big 4 is that you get fame and exposure even before debuting. The members from Baby monster ,a group from YG that hasn’t even debuted yet, have already a lot of fan accounts and the group is already being overhyped because it comes from YG. Groups like NMIXX, Le Sserafim, ITZY and others had a massive debut success while other groups from smaller companies celebrate getting their debut song to a million views. If you debut with the big 4 you have guaranteed success while if you debut with a smaller company you will be lucky that your label is not thinking about disbandment after the first year.

@my.meIody

Жыл бұрын

*you can ignore this reply* true but over the terrible standards, I don’t think it’s fair if your gonna stay there unhappy and pressured. I mean it’s not even that easy to debut with those companies in the first place. also this is slightly unrelated but the more popular the more haters and pressure you get. also you can get spotted by fans most of the time and can barely have some peace….

@Hyacinth_13

Жыл бұрын

And look at new jeans,unlike other gps nwjns had no introduction whatsoever and dropped straight to their debut,look at their popularity now- I'm not just saying they got popular only bc of the company

@KimCher007

Жыл бұрын

But NMIXX didn’t have their first win yet, did they?

@djmanco8153

Жыл бұрын

@@my.meIody the thing is that you think smaller groups aren’t pressured. They are the ones that are pressured the most by their companies in order to make money out of them. They are constantly thinking about disbandment and have to drop WAY MORE MUSIC and have WAY MORE COMEBACKS than big groups. Just look at P1Harmony … a group that comes from a smaller company and debuted like 2 years ago. They debuted 2 years ago yet I am pretty sure they have more songs than blackpink does and last year they had like 3 comebacks with like two tours in between comebacks. I am not saying it is easy for idols that debut on big companies … I am saying they get immediate recognition and fame without even needing to drop a song while smaller groups can consistently drop bangers and never get that recognition they deserve because their company can’t offer them that level of exposure.

@ayanahampton6421

Жыл бұрын

Objectively NMIXX doesn’t have anywhere near the popularity or a fan base compared to any of the other groups from those agencies

I feel like that's what makes Hybe idols unique. They have their own style

@eight8592

Жыл бұрын

Yes really authentic too...discipline, BangPD trained them with good behaviour/ manners...

@shinichikudo68

9 ай бұрын

Bighit or pledis rest are not even near 😂😂

i meaaann as bad as SM wants to be this top-tier visual producing company.. They do actually produce really really talented artists, like choreography aside they can fucking sing like.. better than any agency in South Korea tbh lol.

Kang Seung Yoon of Winner said YG don't promise someone to debut soon but to become a trainee first of their company. Koreans know about YGE but still choose YGE as their top company to get trained with.

Remember how Bang PD developed BTS? He doesn't specify what time they go to practice, how long they practice. They are free to live their life and practice whatever, whenever. That's why BTS is very versatile and extremely authentic. BHE & HYBE saw what that does to BTS, they want to allow others under them to experience the same.

I think for the hybe part is that they want their trainees to be creative in producing and writing songs. Hybe is known for giving credits to those who were involved in the album production. Like with yunjin for her self-producing songs, alot of hybe artists did participating in writing lyrics, and bts have 3 members as main producers in the group. They want their artists to show themselves of what the meaning of true artists means. Hybe have hard trainings when it comes to dance practice, based on what txt and lesserafim's stories were.

@nicoleloss7987

Жыл бұрын

plus they have vocals coaches

@von1glik

7 ай бұрын

And yet they have the least amount of producers with the exception of SM.

@LuckyCl0ver

7 ай бұрын

i agree hybe seems to want and create artists that love music and enjoy what they are doing they don't need to most talented traniee but the traniee with the most star quality

YG is a proof since they got SO MANY PROJECTSSSSS OVER PROJECTSSSSS

JYP's reason is logical. Why spend so much money on one trainee who isn't progressing fast enough? They's be practically losing money. So yes, it is sad to see how quickly they're let go, but they are one of the biggest entertainment producers and they can't afford to have anything slowing them down.

Sm one is tricky because I feel like so many idosl would've left if the pressure was that hard. And SM must be doing something right because most if the groups they have created are still running today

@aminatajallow9082

Жыл бұрын

exactly they are just jealous of their visuals

@danievasquez3394

8 ай бұрын

This one is tricky tho bc in some of those groups, either one or two members have left the group or kicked out or been replaced, and others have left SM and went to diff label but still do group activities bc their group is still under SM. Then some groups under them tho haven't explicitly said they disbanded but not active as a group altho flourishing in their solo careers.

@H_In_Your_Areaa_Ayoo

7 ай бұрын

No I’ve seen many Korean online say that they get brainwashed into wanting plastic surgery themselves due to not feeling good enough and better opportunities

Lol HYBE is the only one that’s not a bad thing. They want talented people to debut. That’s why even new groups like new jeans, txt take active part in creating music since debut. They only hire vetted experts as trainers not just the same ones tht the industry has been using. Plus they have a mental health team for artists and trainees. I wish YG n SM would learn a thing and take better care of their artists rather than just focusing on whoever earns them more money

@xnicla

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it is really great to not train and not give minimal help to a fragile person, a minor mostly, who is developing his/her mind and starting growing up, not educating them. it doesn’t influence their way of thinking at all, the fact that they don’t give a ruck and just want them to be a money machine

@babbes4210

Жыл бұрын

@@xnicla They provide guidance to develop your own style. If you don't have the drive to learn and explore what you want to develop on your own you might not be suited to the industry just yet. They say less not non existent.

@reginanyirubugara4428

Жыл бұрын

I also heard that SM has BOA as a trainee consultant for the really young trainees? Jype also provides their trainee in multiple skills besides the basics: dancing, rapping, singing etc. You can develop yourself in leadership in jype etc etc idk more about sm tho

@skarbuskreska

Жыл бұрын

@@xnicla if you are fragile, you shouldn't be there or in any trainee program in the first place. I don't go to a dangerous place for me like a training then drag the employer and say it was his fault. An employer should care, but only to an extent, the rest is up to you and your family. Go to a therapist instead! For Hybe to want them to actually be artistic which implies you not only copy but actually create, that is a good thing. You act like they don't give training at all, which is obviously not the case.

@JasmineDragonXYL

Жыл бұрын

Yeah what I was thinking. Kpop focuses a lot on visuals rather than talent. Most companies look for visuals, because they think the 'talent' can be trained. So I'm actually glad Hybe works this way, because they focus more on talent and creating good music. From the very beginning, Bighit's artists have been given a lot of creative freedom in music and expressing themselves (the things that music should actually be about). It's good to see groups like New Jeans and TXT also taking part in creating music. And the people that are chosen to get debuted actually do get a very hard training. To me it just feels less fabricated this way and like you're a robot trained to be like everyone else. Those idols are just trained to be money makers for their company.

The fact that none of the comments think of YG training system as comfortably livable proves how difficult it is to train under yg..... that's why I love the artists who make it so much

Its actually a good thing for what Hybe been doing. They made the trainees grow and create their own colour, it also make the competition healthier. It also depends on them, if you want it work for it so when debuted they know they achieve with their own hardwork & creativity

I feel hybe does the correct if they make a mistake they'll improve by themselves like if a mentor shouts some people don't get it properly so learning it by themselves is the best thing

@satyachowdary5291

Жыл бұрын

@@sapphia4612 they do have mentors but little less there is a difference in less and nothing

@LaurenPebble

Жыл бұрын

Mentors shouldn’t be shouting at people, they should explain where they went wrong and what to do to improve. How can someone improve if they don’t have a more experienced person guiding them? If learning by oneself was the best thing then university wouldn’t exist. Not to mention literally any other educational institution - things like martial arts classes, language classes, technical education. Trainees are trainees because they’re supposed to have someone training them. Learning by yourself can only get you so far, and when it comes to singing, without proper instruction, trainees/idols risk damaging their vocal chords irreparably.

@eunicecheng3819

Жыл бұрын

​​@@LaurenPebbleThey said less not non-existent. With the current generation filled with lots of kpop groups, they'd probably want trainees with lots of potential, not spoonfed ones. It's not like that industry is for everyone.

@alexx1o1

Жыл бұрын

with this logic we wouldn't need schools, just learn by yourself 🥰🤗

i wish video creators provides proofs to their accusations

@EXOL_1485

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@playamelodythateverybodyknows

Жыл бұрын

they cant, they have to kiss some fandoms as$😂

@willo8757

Жыл бұрын

There is no such this as "proof/Sources" on these K-pop short channels. All misinformation that uneducated folks will eat up.

@Dina-zb2cv

Жыл бұрын

Nah, look at this comment section lol, new kpop fans full of praising hybe company when it doesn't really that difference from another company lol.

@satyachowdary5291

Жыл бұрын

@@Dina-zb2cv you better know hybe is aleast better than other companies ,,,, don't think people who are praising hybe are only new kpop fans

It’s a good thing that Bp was patient enough

the SM one is so untrue, literally eunhyuk of suju said he wanted to get nose job at a certain point in his career and the company told him not to? i see more trainee leaving because debut seemed unsure / far away.

@hailsy04209

6 ай бұрын

They told him not to because then he’d have to get other surgeries to fit their “image”

YG is such a dream company to get in.

@nanis530

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i saw a video of a korean ex trainees in the industry and they say that they wish they could get in YG

I'm a choose YG and get a good training and if they don't debut that I'll just go and join so medium scale companies

@Dina-zb2cv

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the only logical reasonable people in here lol. Lot of ex trainee from YG already debut in medium company but of course their group also quite famous.

@glassjoker629

Жыл бұрын

u dont need to apply for medium scale companies coz they are the one who will come for you if ur an ex-yg trainee. 🤣🤣🤣

If you’ve seen how YG selects and trains their trainees, you’ll know that they are the hardest agency to enter as a trainee, and don’t forget their monthly evaluations which is probably the harshest evaluations I’ve seen. And let’s not say YG always promises debut to their trainees coz we know they rarely debut new groups unless they ready.

@jackiekun4545

Жыл бұрын

They are aiming for perfection

@aoaoutmothers

11 ай бұрын

I feel like an example for the trainees not being promised to debut are the pink punk members as most members except for the blackpink members were either cut from the line up or left the company due to yg not promising their debut

@Lynnneee

11 ай бұрын

@@aoaoutmothers yeah just look at the ex yg trainees who debuted under different agencies now like Gon and seunghun of CIX, GIDLE’s miyeon, secret number’s jinny, billie’s moon sua, P1harmony’s jongseob, keita and dohwan of ciipher

@80s_graffiti

6 ай бұрын

Just to end up giving them songs like Batter Up 💀 joke of an agency

You know you're attracting the hybe company stans with this 😭😭

You wrong abt YG, YGent has an assessment every month, the trainees will be assessed whether their talents in singing, dancing and making songs have increased or not shown improvement, if he can't compete among other talent trainees then he will be sent home, you can see how the training system works at Ygent on WINNER, IKON, TREASURE, BLACKPINK and even now BAEMON. If you don't believe one reason can be convincing, how can Miyeon (G-idle) who is so pretty and has good singing technique be eliminated as a member of BP? Even trainees who have been at YG for a long time sometimes experience pressure because their talent is not as good as other trainees so they give up and leave YGent

@LupinLupinLupin

Жыл бұрын

YG is known for giving financial assistance to trainees and they don't bury them in debts. YG is also known for paying talent fees higher than other agencies.

@robiulalam3162

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@azimembong2606

Жыл бұрын

also it not only due to not talented or skill enough but what important is how they fit in the group, that will make them debut

@joonobug

Жыл бұрын

Miyeon was not eliminated she left

@sso.oi_pao

Жыл бұрын

LoL Miyeon left because YG the delay of their debut plus YG didn't give them stage exposure

SM never force their trainees to do plastic surgeries. lots of SM well known former trainees already said it. they said that SM did get doctor and gave input about surgery, but the decision is on the trainees' hand. Seulgi even said it too, but she didn't want to do it. So she didn't until now. Eunhyuk also explained that he wanted to have surgery, but SM said that it's better if he didn't do it. So, no, they didn't force it. Also, SM didn't have DEBT system for their trainees like other agencies, so the trainees basically pays 0 during training and after debut; and still get accommodations, and whenever a new group will debut, they have their own Produce 101 among their trainees. it's almost impossible to expect SM to sent personal trainers/teacher for the dozens, maybe thousand trainees they had like hybe did lol. also that other companies have their trainees in DEBT, the company will pay everything, but it's going to be added as the trainees' debt which they had to pay after debut, the artists won't received the full amount of salary before their debt is cleared; some didn't get paid at all until it was cleared. until now, there's no known companies who didn't implement debting system other than SM. YG is unknown, and JYP still have debt system at least until 2pm/miss a era and it's not known whether they still did or not. like 2pm still have debt back then when Jay Park left 2pm. it was known by people then that if he voluntarily left the group, the company would remove his debt, Also whenever SM trainees wanted to leave or being eliminated, they gave recommendation letters to the other companies, so they didn't leave with nothing and can join other agencies right away, even without any audition (depends on the agency's policy); whether it's idol agency or acting agency. for example: Soyeon (ex t-ara), raina (after school), they got recommendations from SM and able to join new agency, and got into the debut line-up right away. there are a lot of similar cases for example from other agencies too. google it!

@pikachu7572

Жыл бұрын

I think the sm criticism makes no sense when all big 3 have made their idols get plastic surgery. And if you look at gidle and wjsn and ive (I swear only examples because I see their faces all the time lol), smaller companies make their idols do plastic surgery too. Like it's very obvious that other companies have followed the sm etc formula because looks are all that matter these days. And I really don't think 18 yos are thinking I need lip filler

@justtosuffer4604

Жыл бұрын

Ngl ppl will make up any rumour about SM, they like targeting SM among the Big3 for some reason, YG's CEO himself called 2NE1 ugly (which forced park bom to do Ps) and this hypocrites like to point the finger at SM, many SM old idols haven't done surgery like taemin, kai, seulgi, key, jisung, chen,chenle, ningning, joy, yeri, DO, suho, eunhyuk, krystal, sulli, eugene many more, I could list more & more. It's just that SM had/has many idols under them compare to any other Big 3 agency that's why ppl always usually blame SM.

@satorumybeloved

Жыл бұрын

Rightt the plastic surgery thing is an industry standard pressure not an SM thing

@RubyJane701_

Жыл бұрын

Ppl obsessed with making SM as the villain among big4.

@takenononsense

Жыл бұрын

@@RubyJane701_ they'd be jobless and miserable if they didn't do that lol

SM really want their visuals to match their talents.

It is true that SM Ent asks a lot of its trainees to do surgery, but they can start without. NCT's Chenle refused, and he made his debut anyway.

@blueshoes5145

8 ай бұрын

But Chenle is rich. I’m sure his parents intervened.

@hermionegranger6405

8 ай бұрын

​@@blueshoes5145yes exactly. Chenle is rich and he already had a music career and he's very funny and distinguishable. SM wasn't about to drop that gold mine.

@amnasalman3960

6 ай бұрын

​@@hermionegranger6405what about eunhyuk and taemin

sm never force their trainee to get plastic surgeryy where do you get this info?? Many traine left sm bcs their not enough to be in new group ,like their vocal dsnt suit with sm concept and for hybee i think its not that bad

@xydexonn_im6953

Жыл бұрын

IKR, i've been following sm (their artist i mean) for years and i never heard them force their trainees to do plastic surgery? as far as i know they only left because they find it hard to compete with the other trainee or like they didnt suit(?) the new group's concept

@itzae6515

Жыл бұрын

@@xydexonn_im6953 YESS RIGHTT the creator spread fake news

@m.gurung7489

Жыл бұрын

Just wait and watch this plastic surgery thing about sm is going to spread like jisoo and jin nearly debuting in rv and exo. People are just going to believe it😂💀

@itzae6515

Жыл бұрын

@@m.gurung7489 yess stupid ppl

@sprinklecookies9804

Жыл бұрын

@@xydexonn_im6953 Someone in the comments said that in the past, SM tried to buy BTS when they were getting more popular, is this true? People was arguing about who's #1 company wise or "big 4". (Not a Army btw it just sounded interesting 😅).

Plastic surgery probably applies to all the companies, especially nowadays. The competition is tougher and ever and companies focus more on visual appeal of the groups than the music. Like, some of the recently debuted idols barely can hold a note. Not everyone is Mariah Carey but there should be a bare minimum of what idols should be able to do.

@sherbear6625

Жыл бұрын

I feel like kpop is just a popularity game at this point like if you are in a big well known company and are pretty then u can do anything, meanwhile there’s groups that are talented and don’t get much recognition. That’s why I’m getting into jpop because I feel that it’s about talent instead of visuals

@nouhedg4035

Жыл бұрын

​@@sherbear6625 guess what made Kpop a popularity game in the first place ! It was never this way 6/7 years ago .

@aestheticme-mi1wr

8 ай бұрын

at least sm idols can sing, they are literally famous for being the vocal power house of kpop

Hybe leans towards nurturing artists/musicians/performers and not just mere company-produced kpop idols. I love Hybe for allowing their artists to create their own path, thus fostering creativity and authenticity.

@no-thanks

11 ай бұрын

YG accomplishes this too, yes ?

@princessairella

11 ай бұрын

@@no-thanks I only know Blackpink from YG and sadly they are still very much controlled by their company. I base this mostly on the girls' less participation in music and content-creation, and the fact that the girls cannot have free weverse lives.

@shinichikudo68

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 txt is traumatized because of their confused trainers and bad environment Sakura asked producer to give her less lines cause they told her she can't sing with emotion instead of providing a vocal/rap trainer they straight up agreed to give her bare minimum. That's not a good company at all 😂😂

YG uses that strategy to filter the finest ones tbh. I think all of the companies at some point does that. And I’m glad for it tbh

Hybe might give less dance Teachers but it helps trainees actually find out their mistakes by themselves instead of having Teachers yelling at you 24/7 and you still might not understand. It helps you develop your own style of dancing and understand why you’re doing it and the importance better. If I had to choose, def hybe

@arach4459

Жыл бұрын

This. Imo hybe want trainees to grow "organically" then they'd pick those who suit the group concept, not the opposite which is molding the trainees into the group concept iykwim

@FlyxwhitxmeXx

Жыл бұрын

It's not just the dance teachers. That greedy rat company has terrible, if even any vocal coaches; for example 5/7 enhypen members don't have any vocal support except for heeseung & sunoo and are weak vocalists. With mediocre dancing you can't go that wrong but without proper singing technique you can fuck up your voice to no return

@okayyy-mp8ft

Жыл бұрын

And what about the vocals? Everyone needs vocal training. It's so essential to carry notes unlike dancing.

@okayyy-mp8ft

Жыл бұрын

​@@FlyxwhitxmeXx heeseung literally carries that group in the singing field. Wish all of them got training. Literally no one improved their vocals from debut till now, except Jay maybe. All of them are average except Heeseung who's good. Sunoo is above average.

@FlyxwhitxmeXx

Жыл бұрын

@@okayyy-mp8ft I know, like I said, everyone except for heesung (& sunoo, kinda) were basically weak vocalists. Idk about improvents of the others in the last months since I was mia seemingly anywhere tho😬

Yg doesn’t promise their trainees anything They are just very strict in choosing who debuts and some trainees can’t keep up with the thoroughness

@robiulalam3162

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@arbuz510

Жыл бұрын

tell that to Moon Sua and other girls from Future 2ne1, they were promised that they'll debut and YG kept postponing it and eventually cancelled their debut so they all left Sua literally wasted 10 years in YG not to debut and then debuted just a year after she joined a different company 💀

@itsqueerinhere

Жыл бұрын

Honestly it's both though. YG will debut who they wanna debut, whether they keep a trainee for ages because they have a vision/plan for them, or they keep them ages and then can't debut them because YG is being fussy and the trainee leaves. Personally I can't understand the "future 2ne1" thing because from what I seen, those girls were super talented

@princessujuaku8284

Жыл бұрын

@@arbuz510 were you there when they were promised debut? Anyone can be removed at any time as long as they haven’t been confirmed as final line up for a group, they are just trainees, many idols under many other companies hv left to debut in another company It’s how things work and how it’s done Get ur confused self out of here and stop misusing emojis Adding ‘💀’ to every sentence u mk is so unnecessary and cringe

@hatake.uchiha

8 ай бұрын

tru

I have been following SM ent for 11 years and I have never heard about them forcing their trainee to get plastic surgery. They recommend it but do not force them to do that.

@anna-5104

8 ай бұрын

Obviously forcing someone is illegal, but saying: „Sorry your looks don‘t fit the concept of the new group.“ is perfectly fine. So that way it‘s not forced, but pressured to.

@Bigbackkitten

8 ай бұрын

Uhm i wouldn’t say forced but pressured too cause they were on seulgi for the longest time telling her to get plastic surgery for her eyes and mark they would all up on him to get plastic surgery

@juvyjanededios97

8 ай бұрын

A member of Brown Eyed Girls exposed SM for telling her that her eyes were small and needed to be big before she became a trainee at SM. She has amazing vocals that she debuted in BEG after a producer from another agency heard her

@aestheticme-mi1wr

8 ай бұрын

​@@anna-5104but e. g. Chenle from NCT debuted even though he declined surgery, so if you are talented enough (and not completely looking like trash) you seem to get debuted anyway

@IBringDramamamamia

8 ай бұрын

@@juvyjanededios97 yeah and were are BEG members now? most of kpop stans probably haven't even heard about them, but they all know SNSD that debuted at around the same time, I don't approve of the belief that idols should be flawless in looks but unfortunately that's how kpop industry works. at least they don't JUST look out for pretty idols in sm, they do care about talent too

JYP is logical. It's true that they should have the best of the best

for SM, yes PHYSICAL APPEAREANCE is a MUST for them BUT YOU CANT DEBUT without those POTENTIAL that they are looking for - you must be a TALENTED trainee. as you can see, those groups who already debuted are really successful (as well individually) because of their TALENT - they even have works outside their job being an idol. but i dont really agree with that sm would really really force their trainees to get PS or else they wont debut, because as eunhyuk said, the company asked him to get PS but he declined it and look at him now, a very talented one. so yeah, all sm groups are really beautiful and good looking naturally.

@SESEnpaiii

Жыл бұрын

AND ALSO, A LOT OF SM TRAINEES ARE REALLY REALLY GOOD LOOKING AND BEAUTIFUL PLUS TALENTED ONES (ex. smrookies) but up until now, THEY HAVENT DEBUTED YET - not even sure if they will still debut. :)

I think hybe one makes sense....we have had enough of trainess that were forced to fit into categories or forced to sing or rap just cause they were selected based on visuals and had no talent in that field...we can see the increased use of autotune these days as result

There's no thing as big4 it had always been BIG3 and it will always remain like so

Hybe really wants to show their trainees's real talent❤️

For sm is obviously made up. They cast trainees for their looks and talents and you can obviously see that most ex sm trainees are pretty and handsome. Ya'll just hype up the issue with aespa's ps and assume that sm force their trainees to do ps in order to debut when infact most ex sm traineed are pretty and handsome. The most accurate is that sm keep having a lot of trainees and promising them to debut, but end up choosing other trainees. (Poor hina can't accept what happened to her) Also if the trainers/higher up doesn't see an idol material in a trainee they will send them to other departments like modelling and acting.

@heart8143

Жыл бұрын

@Gigi Herrier girl are you watching this video? Can't you comprehend properly? I don't have to explain it to you.

@nouhedg4035

Жыл бұрын

​@Gigi Herrier SM created the training system and that's all

@heart8143

Жыл бұрын

@Gigi Herrier no you did not comprehend properly. This video was about what idols hate about their company not what the company invented etc. and it's NOT TRUE that sm FORCED Trainees to do ps in order to debut. SM doesn't require their idols to do ps just to debut. Most of them debuted without ps and most of them did ps AFTER DEBUT! and that is artists choice not forced. Except for aespa who debuted already doing ps.

@heart8143

Жыл бұрын

@Gigi Herrierdropped the artists name 💀 if you can't well that shows you are lying. Drop the name of artists who confirmed that he/she was force by sm to undergo ps just to debut.

@eee_baek

Жыл бұрын

@@heart8143 Ik this is kinda late but why was this even an argument?! Almost every idol in the industry undergoes ps and its not like it was the trainees idea, it was obviously the company that wanted it! So whether or not SM “forces” the trainees, what proof do u have? Because they still have majority of their idols and that issue wasn’t even brought up until Aespa??!

I watched a video of an ex-Hybe trainee and it’s true that his days as trainee wasn’t that tiring. Pretty chill, they had classes to learn Korean and dance and vocal. But he was also let go after the first round of evaluations. So I’m assuming the higher you climb, the harder the training becomes. This makes sense as why would the company waste resources to train someone unpromising?

good job hybe, you are creating talented idols

As for SM its pretty simple to prove it, just gather all the idol predebut pict, even their childhood pict. As i stan their BG i can assure you that all of them are natural (I didn't know much about their GG). So, it's debunked that claim (pressure their trainee to have a plastic surgery)

@alberobluilblu

8 ай бұрын

Sure buddy

Did any of those things are proved ? Because apart from YG all of the others can be accusation with no proof and just want to critics some labels

@EXOL_1485

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@yoaaaaaah4798

Жыл бұрын

Fr tho

@devashrijoshi9079

Жыл бұрын

Ik for a fact that sm does focuses a lot on the visuals so it wouldn't be surprising if SM does pressure their trainees on the visual aspects, tho not sure about plastic surgery since it's a big thing. Most sm visuals too doesn't seemed to have plastic surgery if you watch their pre debut pics

@lingodream460

Жыл бұрын

​@@devashrijoshi9079SM I think is an accusation with a little to no proof. Well, Seulgi debuted even though she didn't agree to have double eyelids. We saw ningning from her childhood as a singer in china to the present and find her the same. This is also the case with the dreamies. Most of what I heard is that SM choses visuals over talent, which as we all know, is a lie. Lol. SM artist's are real artist and are very talented. No one should ever argue with that. This makes their accusation more doubtful. Although these accusations still makes sense tho. Like its almost impossible to have idols which is very visually perfect. The thing is that they only do not have one or two or five idols, but almost all of their idols are visually perfect which is very impossible to think of!

@SunnyShlne

Жыл бұрын

@Devashri Joshi I agree that the visual aspect is important for sm but it's the same for all labels, people forget that they sell their images. the surgeries are the same done to all the other artists, there are several accounts that are based on good research and are not biased, and we quickly realize that all those said to be "natural" never were. (Not that I care, i just love music) it is indeed the visuals that have had the least surgery most of the time. I regret this label comparison because their ultimate goal is not to tell the truth but to belittle certain labels, to give the impression of having perfect labels elsewhere without problems or dark history, in particular their favorite. it's not fair especially that this industry hides a lot in general and that the most "powerful" ones pay a little more attention to their image because they are watched more closely ex: JYP, SM,... YG (their image it may already be tarnished😅). I would worry about those small label that overnight becomes important and try to fit in with the big agencies. We know almost nothing about them and they have nothing to lose really, their popularity is protecting them for the moment but I don't think it will last.

Honestly it makes me so proud hearing big4. The fact that BTS made a company rise to that height is such a huge deal. Ik it's off topic but still sharing the proud moment ;-; Edit: Guys I realize different people have different opinions on the topic but my comment was basically just a way to express how proud I am of tannies. No company is perfect and it is obvious that hybe is where it stands mainly due to BTS. Love to all! (Please don't start a war)

@letshavefun3653

Жыл бұрын

Me too I was so happy 'it's the big 4 now'

@kimkardashianlostearring5277

Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a video and one part showed how Bighit had more money than the big3 combined

@amajinjams6966

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment the same thing as all of you 😂

@msj0015

Жыл бұрын

​@@kimkardashianlostearring5277 It's not more, it's way way more money. BTS alone was towering over big3, but after acquisition and making other sub-labels, it became too high that even the cumulative profit of Big3 can't touch HYBE. NewJeans, Le sserafim, TXT, Seventeen, Enhypen - everyone sales millions after all. BTS members individually can sell millions now.

@patiswabukani7233

Жыл бұрын

Wait but it's just the big 3 do u guys even know why it's ONLY called the big 3??

Jyp is definitely for me. Im a horrifically fast learner and the fact that they drop trainees would make me practice non stop, forcing me to get better.

People always make SM as villain in Kpop Industry

I don't think so!! These are just assumption. If SM only cared about looks then why do they have best vocalists and dancers?? Now their new gen rapper are even skilled. YG one is a bit true cuz they don't debut a group very frequently but worth the wait. Hybe one sound so made up like kpop idols are like industrially manufacted things and a lot of trainers train them. If TXT taehyun was street casted because of visual how come he became a main vocal without any vocal training?? Doesn't make sense and most of the hybe groups like enhypen,TXT, newjeans... Doesn't have a category where they're the best like rap for BTS, vocal for exo and dance for stray kidz.

@umakemevgin

Жыл бұрын

U literally don’t make any sense

@sunny9317

Жыл бұрын

Yeh and u just think so, we don't know wuts right or wrong

@x_.mizuki._x3231

Жыл бұрын

The SM contract says if you don't want the plastic surgery they will give you, they will terminate your contract and make you pay (and for what? I declined the offer for the plastic surgery.)

@nouhedg4035

Жыл бұрын

​@@x_.mizuki._x3231 have you seen an SM contract before !? Where do people get these assumptions !? Not all SM artists did ps and every company does that anyways ! They look for PRETTY people they don't MAKE pretty people !!!

@Dina-zb2cv

Жыл бұрын

It's just for view girls. When you don't have any proof but want to make this kind of video without real evidence.

If i will be an idol, ofcource,i will choose hybe or jyp 💁.. Actually they are BETTER than promising fake to idols/trainees or just changing the stucture of a person's face 🙂. (My opinion. No need to fight over this).

@yonome2

Жыл бұрын

Choose jyp.... it's better.

I love JYP's way of training, it's like making sure they have motivation to continue their debuting journey. Although it might give a lot of pressure to the trainees, that's just how you debut as a strong and not giving-up-easily idol.

Sorry but is big 3, sm, jyp and yg. Hybe is not on the podium, big 3 is about the foundation of kpop, back in the 90s.

@LILYSHAIR22

8 ай бұрын

he means is that this is the biggest agency in this era

@seaweed428

7 ай бұрын

Stuck in the past I see. Guess what, wake up it's already 5th gen not 1st gen anymore. Times change, definitions change, public opinion change and so must you adapt.

Hybe one I agree man. Look at I-Land from where Enhypen debuted. They learnt and improved every dance move on their own with minimal guidance. The trainees helped each other. It was a hell of a show seriously. So proud my talented boys debuted 🙏😫😭🥺🫂💓

@cjnem7243

Жыл бұрын

not vocals

@springdayofficial

Жыл бұрын

@@cjnem7243 vocals also they did it on their own. Without much guidence. Wdym?

@cjnem7243

Жыл бұрын

@@springdayofficial did it on their own by being mid vocals lack of support cannot sing live you know why their song are full of autotune

@springdayofficial

Жыл бұрын

@@cjnem7243 lmao. You clearly have seen nothing and don't listen to them by writing this comment. It's so obvious. Enhypen has the most difficult choreography and still sings live. In MMA 2022, they and monsta X were the only one to sing live and it was proved by official sites. Even In MAMA , KBS, GDA they sang live. That too did encore so go cry somewhere else. Plus their songs are top tier. 2nd most streamed song they bag in 4th gen after skz. You're not aware of reality, not my fault. I bet you're a gg stan or a YG group stan. Cause all of these super ass jealous of enha since they are literally more talented then their faves. Or probably a 3rd gen crazy stan who is so insecure that they are comparing their faves to a 2 year old group. Don't cry. Your nugus will stay nugus. Hybe rules the k-pop planet anyway!

@nicoleloss7987

Жыл бұрын

what nonsense. hybe has vocals coaches. plus they send artist to the United States to train.

Hybe's system actually developing artist's talent.

I like HYBE and JYP’s mentality. If you want it, you’ll work hard. Shapes character

If i had chose one of them then I'll choose JYPE

I feel like HYBE is very close to all-rounder kinda company. They take both vocals and dance seriously so most of their artists are okay singing live. Even rookies have very good vocals. They give them all types of choreography instead of just hard ones so that they can sing and dance good at the same time. wow i didn't realise my comment would start a war😂the caption itself says "4 big companies" hence i said my opinion about hybe. im not disregarding other companies. i just said this simple thing i noticed about hybe artists. wasn't trying to offend anybody.

@midnightmoon_15

Жыл бұрын

Yea like txt, Enhypen, new jeans, lesserafim, BTS, seventeen, legit all rounded grps

@willo8757

Жыл бұрын

You had me until you said vocals. Most vocalists in hybe are average to under average.

@TheGenreIsBTS

Жыл бұрын

​@@willo8757 hybe HAS good vocals. It's impossible for them not to have it at their level. Are you a sm stan (or their groups)? They usually the ones to deny all the other company's artists their talent in vocal, since for them sm is supposedly the only good at vocal. Personally I don't see it (except few exceptions) but these days all people need to say someone has good vocal is a high note, like if this is the only indication of a good vocal. It's ridiculous

@ferdoushihossain5922

Жыл бұрын

Hybe do got good vocals (svt mad stable) but SM are hardcore on vocals which is why all vocal kings and queens are in SM

@midnightmoon_15

Жыл бұрын

@@willo8757 I mean they aren’t average vocalists, they’re actually super strong ones

For Yg, yes they take YEARS to debut their trainees, but the outcome is always the best. Baby Monster as an example. They have been training for years even though they are really young, but they are talented like any other idol that has experts

Haha watching them dancing as background. They all seem so silly LOL.

Maybe Hybe/ Bighit changed from before since not all artist that debut came to them fully ready but I still don't see a issue. Look at it this way if it's their dream by the time they audition for a company they should be close to ready to debut otherwise what does a company have to judge but their looks and hopes that they'll become talented later on? Glad they take talent over potential otherwise it'd be a group of visuals with little to no talent.

Plastic surgery one is not just for SM. Any kpop entertainment could be forcing their idols to do that. Like it's so hard to find an idol who didn't any surgeries. I'll take an example from these mentioned entertainments. Sakura was the visual of her previous group and still she had to do some another ps before debuting in lesserafim. They even made idols who have already debuted to undergo ps. But everyone is just pointing out to SM only.

SM doesn’t force their idols to get plastic surgery tho, they don’t even force them to get on diets, its always the artist choice. I remember that when the Red Velvet members gained weight for Dumb Dumb comeback netizens attacked them so much that they had to lose weight, but that was because of the hate the were getting, not because SM forced them. Also seulgi mentioned the company suggested her to get double eyelid surgery but she didn’t want to get it and the company didn’t force her to do it…she even debuted so i don’t think SM forces their idols to do things they don’t want to. SM is even one of the few companies that doesn’t care about their idols dating since debut, they don’t have a dating ban like JYP or YG, and the artists can also get tattoos and piercings if they want too since debut, for example ningning already has like three tattoos and she got them a few months after Aespa debuted

For the SM haters/self righteous stans, just so you know, most of your groups have had plastic surgery. Almost all. Like, all of your faves, literally. They change their appearance to fit beauty standards in some way. They have to because it’s unfortunately a part of their job. They may have been pressured by their company or SK’s culture which seems to be very image focused. That’s South Korea and that’s k-pop.

if that's true, jyp is the only good company out of 4. they over the best trainer and teacher, provide good food, education and all.. it's between you can keep up the pace or you lose, because it makes them want to prepare a group for next debut

These hybe comments🙄 - natural talent is good, but trainees still need proper support for their talents to strengthen. It really is the difference between being able to perform just your groups music and being truly skilled

@ot7741

9 ай бұрын

I actually agree with u I thought the same

JYP actually make sense and good for both parties. I'd better be dropped by the company than staying there with false hope of ever debuting

I am sorry but there's nothing like 4 big companies it's just 3 big companies sm, yg and jyp

There are no such things as the big 4 It's the big 3 Hybe may have rise over the years but they are not considered that

@EnHaTaN

Жыл бұрын

no…one…cares

@joonobug

4 ай бұрын

Womp womp

Like what other ex YG trainees said in shows after leaving YG, YG TRAINEES ARE VERY COMPETITIVE. If you want to survive, you need to always be at your Ultima bestsssss. Only a few can survive, only those who are crazy hungry to debut under YG.

it makes a lot of sense because hybe wants to discover what their artists/trainees can do and what things they are capable of when it comes to their job.

I want to choose SM, just to meet Exo, shinee , NCT and Aespa . I am born beauty so i dont think they will make me do PS. I am bathroom singer 🤣🤣🤣 And i can rap too if their is autotune I can dance if no one see me

hybe needs to focus on their vocal lessons tho lmaoo

@ot7741

9 ай бұрын

Yes Ur ryt

@Agrobacterium_

6 ай бұрын

True lol, people here be praising hybe but it's the exact reason for which hybe idols are trolled. They are the best performers imo, but when it comes to singing, in a group barely 1-2 people can sing ( vocals. Good vocals, not talking about rappers).

It's big 3 , always will be big3 , it can't be something but big3.

The fact that jyp chooses talent over visual🤝

'Minimal mentors' I disagree I've seen Sakura drastically improving in Hybe and look at Lesserafim how synchronized they're just because of their strict mentors

@willo8757

Жыл бұрын

That's because Sakura heavily needed it. She was the weakest one there in terms of everything.

@yourspinalcord

Жыл бұрын

@@willo8757 that's exactly the same thing needed it and got it

@nicoleloss7987

Жыл бұрын

this video is nonsense. I know for fact the hybe has vocals coaches.

@larissawaghorn

Жыл бұрын

​@@nicoleloss7987 I think they were meaning less then other companies not none at all. This isn't a bad thing if true (not sure if it even is) cause it could be because they are wanting them to develop their own styles instead of just fully following the teacher?

I mean in this case hybe is the best they let their trainees improve on their own......I mean it's better than getting plastic surgery forcefully or debuting after a reallyyy longgg time or just not being able to debut after trying hard.......

@Jenz_Ken

Жыл бұрын

I mean some people don't really develop on their own they do need good teachers that can help em

@adisappointment3453

Жыл бұрын

it still aint something good, as a company hybe cant expect to have their idols or trainees develop skills by themselves, they have to be talented, which is a very rare occasion, they are there to train in the skills, so hybe has to provide trainers

@bueaty3656

Жыл бұрын

Hybe is following western standards where a person works themselves and then they just pick up off the work you’ve done and help boost your already growing self. Which is great except when you’re right at the bottom with no resources. But then the flip side is companies that give resources the trainees end up in huge debts.

@adisappointment3453

Жыл бұрын

@@bueaty3656 trainees literally PAY the companies to train them, it's unfair not to do so

@bueaty3656

Жыл бұрын

@@adisappointment3453 If a trainee pays a company thats true. But I don't know the inner workings of HYBE. At the end of the day HYBE is a big company with multiple subsidaries. From a business POV if they can spend less on trainee cost and increase on song production, music production, merchandising, video shooting and other hidden business costs to gather more content and oppotunities to then pay thier workers then it's the smart move. Not every company works the same way. and even comapnies that do pay for training might only pay low cost rather than decent level of training.