so basically the popular get more popular and small artists stay small

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

It’s sad but we can change that!!

@ghostskel7463

3 жыл бұрын

True.Just like me :(

@Min-tx6bj

3 жыл бұрын

@@ghostskel7463 Ey small artists gang Also can you link your social media so I can check your art?

@kingalew3805

3 жыл бұрын

@@Min-tx6bj i'm ardent.arts, small artist gang!

@sophiejones9931

3 жыл бұрын

my art account is @ sketchysophie on ig 👉👈🥺

I just wish that beginner artists aren't always linked to being younger. You can be in your thirties and fourties and still be a beginner and learning a lot.

@randomwannabe556

3 жыл бұрын

Very true.

@blessingayo9047

3 жыл бұрын

True. I myself have to say, I fall into the bracket of seeing a “beginner artist” as someone young, although I know it’s not the case.

@soulangela7154

3 жыл бұрын

My greataunt's boyfriend is in his 70's I think and he started oilpainting. And dude, when I first saw his work I thought it was made by someone who had like 10+ years experience. It's never too late to start making art!

@gserin2764

3 жыл бұрын

Except if you're me then you can call me out for being younger

@justarandomfan2421

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!

This is actually why I haven't drawn anything for instagram for over two weeks now, it's frustrating and disheartening that Instagram has basically blocked out new artists from fully expressing themselves unless they just become another clone drawing Pinterest girls

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s so true. Instagram is no longer a place to build a following if you don’t piggy back on fanart or other artists or something. Everything is hard now. Only us artists can save each other

@JaelBreton

4 жыл бұрын

I do agree with your statement. It has become incredibly difficult to grow a following on Instagram due to popular artists being promoted and trends oversaturating the feed. However, something I had to ask myself a few months ago: Am I posting on Instagram to just build a following and make money, or am I posting on there because I want to share my passion with the world, even if only 5 people see it? And while Pinterest girl drawings make a majority, seeing something completely different is refreshing, so don't give up. People will see it. I am grateful for the followers I do have, even though it's not much in terms of numbers. But those who stick by you love what you do even when we take breaks. Just keep posting what you love.

@jaharitucker3953

4 жыл бұрын

I just think it’s a waste of time sometimes. I get nothing from posting so I honestly forget to post lol

@FOF275

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaharitucker3953 I'm legit thinking of dropping art as a whole, it's to frustrating and unrewarding honestly. Over ten years and I have nothing tangible to show for it

@jaharitucker3953

4 жыл бұрын

E C if art no longer brings you joy to make them I would agree with you. Even though I don’t make money or get the attention I believe I deserve I still feel an urge to create

It’s even worse that all the reposting accounts get even more recognition then the artists themselves and usually make it super hard to find the original artist or where the post came from and how to find the original artwork

@fryer.studios100

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly and it’s usually more often than not that the original artist dont get credited

@celunax

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, even though they might credit them, it still feels like they are stealing the art..

@annoyingbananana

4 жыл бұрын

because people following these repost accounts are not artists. They dont KNOW better.

@quintessential8361

4 жыл бұрын

I never understood the point of repost accounts like it’s different putting someone on your story and then fully just taking someone’s drawing and posting it

@MistaJonz

4 жыл бұрын

Oh man I hate that so much! I don’t mind when they tag me but when they get way more recognition on their repost than my original I’m like what the heck?!

Yes okay. I'm actually going to share smaller artists now. This actually really spoke to me. I myself struggle with growing, but I'm not really helping other people grow either

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

So true!!! Let’s help each other!!!

@raj-thefakeshady9954

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

@blueace1000

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad artist support exists

@broccolitomato1085

3 жыл бұрын

Bro I’m so glad that on my ig I have mutuals with bigger followings that tag me on chains and such cos it helps so much and I’m- like- AAA ILY

@mopeadaz

3 жыл бұрын

@?

In a nutshell: The people you meet on the way up are the ones you'll meet on the way down. Be good and be helpful to those on the come-up.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

This is so true man...we really have to just keep being the best versions of ourselves.

@newtonewell5172

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAgbadi I feel what you were saying about looking away from the big art social-media sites. Just finished checking ArtStation... for the first time I felt like people were just throwing stuff up on there, instead of actually thinking about what they wanted to draw next.

As a young artists that began publishing art on insta, I have to say that it's sad that I don't get much engagement, I originally I thought it was because I mostly draw my ocs and not fanart, but I can't get myself to draw fanart, since I feel that I don't give the shows I like justice, I mostly try to ignore the algorithm and just draw for my own personal pleasure, but I want more coments and likes too every once in awhile

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah maybe you can do some fan art and the. Go back to drawing orcs too once in a while!

@takamikeigo7985

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way😢

@Luka.shrekie

3 жыл бұрын

I don't like doing fanart (that much or at all) either. However you gotta find the middle ground of the audience, what you are good at, and what you want to do. So drawing fanart as the stepping stones isn't a bad idea. Thou I just started insta with my riso.fo account

@mopeadaz

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use hashtags and stuff? I do and that’s where I get most of my exposure from (and by exposure I mean people spam liking my feed, but never actually following)

@MustacheDLuffy

3 жыл бұрын

It’s mainly not that, it’s art quality but manly who sees it

I'm glad that you acknowledge the fact that some artists arent even full time artists and dont have the time to create dozens of works everyday. some people have a career or full time job.

@inkyheaven

4 жыл бұрын

I'm one of them. Full time in academia, but I draw to document my mental health and share them on an Instagram account solely meant for art. Art is a good support system and once upon a time I did come across like minded people on Instagram because they would find my art via hashtags. But lately it does seem like Instagram is a place only for 'professionals' and unless you are exclusively interested in business, you don't matter.

@luludraws2732

3 жыл бұрын

Man i even abandoned art for a while just to work as a cheff for a few months. I worked twice a day all together 12 hours per day for 5 months just to earn enough money to feed my fam and to get a freaken graphic tablet finally. We all got fired due to corona and now i finally Got the tab. I have small comunity of people that Like my art but i wont dissapoint them, especially now that i can get into digital art. I think we should all be happy with our arts and like, it doesnt matter how much of followers do u have, if its one person, ure still making thhat one person happy while also Being happy. I will try sending my Works to graphic designs industry and see where it takes me. Love yourself peope 💜

I think also a lot of artists get intimidated by how much frequently other artists seem to be able to post new work. More artists on insta should think about how they can recycle their stuff. Like for example me right now, I'm revisiting loads of inktober stuff and colouring it as a way to practice but saving time on the lines and idea.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man that’s actually a fun way of doing it being able to create new fresh content from old! Man I think I can actually do the same thing! Hahah!

@miilkyorca3213

4 жыл бұрын

I feel overwhelmed by that, since I usually don't post a lot, I draw a lot, but never really post anything for any reason. And it seems that the only way to keep followers and gain more is to be constant, but some of us don't have the confidence or time to do so

@preciousshittu1768

4 жыл бұрын

U could try creating a pose sheet trust me it saves you so much time

@miilkyorca3213

4 жыл бұрын

@Midoriya Izuku Yeah, and the worse part is that that makes getting commissions difficult

@miilkyorca3213

4 жыл бұрын

@Midoriya Izuku It's really sas when this stuff happens

Honestly I feel I'm not seen for anyone, no matter how many hashtag I put on my art 😕

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s hard. Sometimes accounts get shadowbanned for using too many hashtags so that may be what happened to your account.

@joined_shores_art

4 жыл бұрын

Also, apparently IG mistakes you for a bot or as spam when you constantly use the same hashtags (not sure if it matters how much time passes between posts) Personally I changed up but it didn't really work out for me, but I think this method is still worth trying

@user-mb1ef5ij5r

4 жыл бұрын

same to mee too

@Aromanidae

3 жыл бұрын

@@joined_shores_art my account has been compromised twice recently. How do I change up my hashtags if I have stuff like #drawing #sketchbook and #whatevertopicthedrawingisabout

@joined_shores_art

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aromanidae I personally post one time without any hashtags to break the count. However it's not clear how many times you can post before ig kills the reach yet

I understand where you’re coming from - but something that is important to keep in mind is Instagram wants to make money. That’s why posts have no reach - they want you to pay for ads. Everyone starts out with 0 followers - some will buy advertising and from that they can grow. Others will hustle. And by hustle I mean, they will comment on people’s work, like, follow and try to connect with bigger artists - and that is what leads to growth. You can’t just post art, and expect the followers to come. Instagram won’t allow it. Spending time connecting with other artists commenting etc helps the algorithm spread their work - and hopefully they will return the favour by commenting/liking on your work - and maybe following. I have spent many, many hours trying to develop relationships with artists on Instagram - and I still do. I don’t have a huge account - but it is decent, and I can safely say my work very rarely gets shared...

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah true. Instagram is a business so therefore they would want you to spend money. You’re right networking is really important, but now a days even if you network all the time it’s still hard and people will barely share your work.

@brandonparker6696

4 жыл бұрын

There's always hashtags which has helped me with my following.

@snakebitartstudio

4 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Parker - hashtags are an absolute must - but they are still subject to instagrams algorithm (and by extension, their pay to play system). Interacting costs nothing but time - and it’s not something that the algorithm can restrict. If you follow, and comment enough - try and get conversation with people, a lot of them will check out your page - and often follow back.

@stevenkennedy1645

4 жыл бұрын

@@snakebitartstudio I follow you on Instagram and I absolutely love your work. I draw just to pass time on. Most of my followers have come from hashtags and like you say interacting with fellow artist. I'm truly grateful for every like, comment and share my silly little drawings get. I have made friends on the other side of the world due to art. Its amazing. Anyways both of you keep up the fantastic work much love ❤🖖 @sleekdesign87

@WeNeedAMeteor38274

3 жыл бұрын

But what of you just wanna post your art just for the sake of it? Like you don't care how many followers you have and you are not doing any businesses on instagram etc

As far as social media is concerned, this goes typically beyond Instagram. Before Instagram artists had to post on platforms where mostly other artists were found. The reach was exponentially less there when starting out. But even on those platforms, there's always a snowball effect. The social media game is akin to a snowball that rolls down the cliff. As long as you consistently put down content time and time again to the point where your followers know they can expect work from you on a near-daily basis, then that'll bear fruit. People will know you exist, because you give them content on a regular basis. Given enough time. Literally no one starts out with thousands of likes. Even when you draw pinterest girls. At the end of the day, even when you do the things that we think works on social media, you still won't be a star overnight. Not even when you've put in the years and have refined your work. You just won't see much traction as you haven't built up anything yet. It takes time to organically grow a following. This goes for every social media platform out there. The exception here is when you get noticed by more prominent people who feel like sharing your stuff. That'll always get you a nice buzz when it comes to engagement. But above everything, don't draw content just for likes. You're doing art because you enjoy art, and it should reflect that in the work you put out. The one constant here however is that it needs to be something that can be considered high quality, or is somehow able to be very relatable to a great many people. Case in point: photographers taking pictures of beautiful landscapes. There's plenty of them, as well as the ones who focus on feminine beauty (which, in this case is the photographer's version of pinterest girls). In the end, if you do it for the internet fame, you'll hit a burnout before you can say ''Instagram algorhythm!'' because you'll never be happy with what you achieve. And the worst part? That goalpost keeps on changing. Maybe you are happy with ''X'' amount of likes, but soon that goal will now be ''Y'' amount of likes. Nonetheless, great video Mohammed. It touches on things we artists tend to struggle with a lot. Here's my take on it, but that doesn't mean I'm unfamiliar with the feelings you've presented here. But it just might be the wrong way to think about all this. Oh and since you asked for instagram handles, here's mine! @marcfhuizinga

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah your perspective is pretty much the same I’m talking about, but I love the angle you’re coming from. I feel even after you have started gaining traction if you don’t do what the algorithms want you to do to continue growing you will slow down fast! I started my journey on concept art forums, cghub, and deviant art, it was tough but eventually I started growing a following on deviant art because I was much more consistent on there so it was easier for people to see my progress.

@viennasavage9110

4 жыл бұрын

No one makes art only to keep it to themselves, so the last 2 paragraphs are pretty useless -- as I cannot even fathom doing something like art and keeping it only to yourself, and i've been doing art for all my life.

@kakes121

4 жыл бұрын

Vienna Savage I’m a new artist but just hearing people say that recognition shouldn’t be important is tiring

@antzrantz3883

4 жыл бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 well even if people dont see it you still can see it and like your work. Art is also very relaxing to do. Yrs it's fun sharing but it's not the only important aspect of art.

@Boxxxxxxxxx

3 жыл бұрын

Whoa whoa whoa. The profile picture.

People randomly find my insta and they like my only 2 pics I have lol. The other week someone told me to come back, I haven't posted anything since December. I wanna start drawing more but I just can't find the motivation. It hurts the most when your close friends don't like your posts.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Just start man! Don’t let it bother you too much!

@takamikeigo7985

3 жыл бұрын

Dude same, it also sucks when you put hashtags on your post but it still won't get noticed

@MustacheDLuffy

3 жыл бұрын

I mean if they aren’t artists themselves maybe they don’t post either and don’t pay attention, it’s nothing to do with you

@rye2226

3 жыл бұрын

Same ;-;

@GabrielTobing

3 жыл бұрын

My close friends made fun of my pictures and OCs :( It hurts a lot indeed, worse part was that it was behind my back the entire time :(

In my opinion, I think people need to stop worrying about the followers. Once you start worrying about the god awful algorithm and comparing yourself to artists with 100k+ followers is when you start to feel shitty about yourself. And it's unhealthy. Don't post art to gain followers. Post art because it's something you like and are passionate about. The followers will come with time but in the meantime, get out there, talk to people, like and follow others and just be patient. Most importantly, just do what makes you happy Edit: Just wanted to make a quick edit sense this comment, for whatever reason, is getting a lot of traction now. So, I made this comment more so for artists just starting out on Instagram with only 100 or so followers and is constantly worrying about the algorithm not being in their favor. They're not trying to make art their job or even sell their art but they want followers to have followers because they feel like that number justifys themselves. That's when art isn't fun. That's when art becomes a chore. If art isn't your job, then don't make yourself feel like it is one. Edit X2: if you are trying to make art your job, get out there and talk to other artists. Join and participate in groups, do share for shares, and try new things. I believe I made this post when I had about 1k followers and I'm now a little over 2.3k because of these things above. However, I'm not pushing myself to my breaking point by trying to please the algorithm. Ive made other art friends in the community that are doing and selling the same things I am. All ranging between 1k to 100k in followers and all of them are lovely people. We all help each other out and that's how you beat the algorithm. You make friends and you share each other's works.

@SAR-re1fx

4 жыл бұрын

Is not about that, I know some people that are full time artist and are losing money because of the algorithm. Accounts with more than 5K , with less than half the followers able to see the posts, this means less commissions, less money than before, is not fair. They are playing with people´s money and income.

@AA-pv6mi

4 жыл бұрын

S.Ariadne Navarro Stop being negative. That’s why you have nothing.

@mmmmyeah1849

4 жыл бұрын

@@AA-pv6mi They are completely rational there. Its true.

@AA-pv6mi

4 жыл бұрын

Grace Not really no.

@leenordgomez4275

4 жыл бұрын

I like that mindset

Its reallly reassuring to see so many other artists feel this way, I always hate seeing the same old 'pretty model girl' paintings and drawings on insta. Its so uninspired and boring at this point. I don't know why people like them so much, personally I find them meh. I hope we can all just create and hopefully people notice Edit: pretty girl art is still art, although some find it bland you may like it and that's fine. But it saturates art feeds with the same type of artwork and hinders creativity. Art is more than just pretty girls and hyper realistic eyes or lips. Nowadays, people draw these just to be popular. Again, if you like it-that's cool and there's no judgement on you as a person. However for artists/viewers out there with different art styles or art content, they are being pushed away because an algorithm says they don't fit the 'pretty girl trend', that kinda sucks.

@HappyMealBieber

4 жыл бұрын

hyper realistic wrinkly lips girl photoshopped to death

@kucingcing

4 жыл бұрын

Cus normies eat that like how i eat thicc girls bum

@fryer.studios100

4 жыл бұрын

StarFru1tEnterpr1se 1nc alrighty than

@aychazyt6987

4 жыл бұрын

And that's why I like mythical creatures, monsters and stuff, it takes real talent to turn those myths into life-like art!

@DesignzRUs1

4 жыл бұрын

Well, art is subjective. If people like it, who cares. You guys complaining and nitpicking EVERYTHING isn’t gonna get you successful LOL

Instagram is the primary reason why I lost my passion for art, my art account is like a barren wasteland now

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Hahah yeah it happens like that sometimes! You have to keep going!

@limpmisfitz

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAgbadi I will, Thanks for the motivation man

@takamikeigo7985

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god same, i just lost my motivation once i realized my account wasn't growing. It sucks lol

@samguyindula2983

3 жыл бұрын

Same here I was so focused on the big account and i was just like "i want the same interaction with my followers " since in my i never have comments only like . That make me think that my art must suck that s why they dont share, they dont leave a comment. I started my channel at the beginning of the lockdown and i decided to stop for now. I know it s been 4 month and it seems like i already want to quit but no i just want to remember myself the first reason why i open this insta account so that i wont cares about followers anymore

@ilikecatvids808

3 жыл бұрын

@@takamikeigo7985 i know man,it's sucks fr.

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@robertopulitano8093

4 жыл бұрын

I´ll appreciate the feedback at instagram.com/elrobercomics/

@tarfism

4 жыл бұрын

@woshdraws ❤️

@iamluyu

4 жыл бұрын

@iboyartz

@fadel_rama

4 жыл бұрын

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@Pesoccy

4 жыл бұрын

My IG is Majiko_art , if you would let me know what you think i'd really apreciate it, even though it's really messy and outdated :/ You are doing god's work man keep the amazing art ;)

I’m going to start doing this too. I find that Instagram not only limits reach in general, but also highly punishes infrequent posting. It’s so obvious they’re trying to make us pay for promoting our work, but I just feel it’s going to drive more support for an alternative platform. It’s not like instagrams features are so original anymore anyway.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah true! It punishes it a lot!!!!

@mrs.quills7061

3 жыл бұрын

The punishing from infrequent posting pisses me off! Lately, I’ve been deleting my social apps to take a break and not become overwhelmed. when I reinstall and get back on and post, it’s like IG hates me bc I don’t live on there. I think people have been fed up with IG for a while there was some art app a few years ago started with a v I think that everyone ran too for a bit, but it’s hard bc we need people outside the art community too! Their features aren’t original anymore. I didn’t mind stories because I rarely use Snapchat anymore and you can share people’s art, but IGTV is kinda garbage and now they’re copying tiktok with reels... also their live streaming sucks too. I tried it a few times, it’s quite limited.

I have been discouraged sharing my works in Instagram even tho how much I've improved. Because my style is not as recognized as the big time artists have so I try to change it. Imitate their styles show people what they want to see but at the end of the day. That's not what I want to do and see. But I don't care anymore. If people don't like my works, it's my art and it makes me me and it's all that matters.

@lucora5653

3 жыл бұрын

You could say your User Name, so I may look at your drawings ^-^

Reality of instagram hurts.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

So true!

Sometimes it can be really disheartening on Instagram because of how unpredictable it is. A work you put your heart and soul into one day could get no attention and then the next minute some doodle you made in 5 minutes gets seen by everyone. Makes you feel like your efforts are wasted sometimes. My instagram is instagram.com/kaijie_art/ if anyone wants to see. Haven't posted in a few weeks but theres some stuff on there that I like lol.

@cheriquebutterfly

4 жыл бұрын

true i got that so much that i hardly every post there only doodle things

@da1t036

4 жыл бұрын

Your art is so cute! I feel like by colouring your art it’ll pop more :)

@veronis

4 жыл бұрын

i like your art! the zelda redraw is really good

@fairyjuggalo8368

4 жыл бұрын

Or when a shitpost gets like 700 likes and your hard work art gets 22 because apperently you made the nose ugly cuz god fucking forbitten sake you can't draw "ugly" people

People need to understand that your art takes a backseat once you decide to put it on insta. It's never about the art. Just the marketing and aesthetic behind it. That's why so many artists draw the same Disney inspired, baby faced, hemorrhoid lipped pinterest clone over and over. They just change the skin color and hair.

@dameslayer

2 жыл бұрын

Like sam’s art?

@makizenin1840

Жыл бұрын

@@dameslayer Maybe. From my observation I found the traditional art community to be a lot more cheerful, kind and honest as compared to digital art community who are fighting with each other to get likes and followers on Instagram which is pretty sad and is bad foe mental health.

I almost cried listening to this... Someone says my mind at last... This almost sent me into depression a couple of weeks back... Like what's the point of doing this at all... 😭

@vivianleung2262

3 жыл бұрын

I feel you with the whole depression thing 😭

We need a platform just for artists that’s not deviant art :/

I joined art insta several weeks ago and realized the same problem. The instagram algorithm won't even let me see the small artists - those are the ones I want to follow, because I know we could make a meaningful contact, follow each other and just have fun with our art, and that's not really possible with the big stars, cause that's not why they're on insta. Another problem is that when we share only the big names, all the pictures on insta just sort of have the same style to the drawings. That's the popular style. Which really limits the diversity of art you see on there.

@joined_shores_art

3 жыл бұрын

Recently noticed that despite following many small artists, I just don't see their posts, so I need to double check, the notifications are straight up glitching out and don't help at all. It's terrible 🥴

this is why i'm slowly moving away from instagram. shit's ass and it feels more like a competition than a community. i wanna be places where artists talk to each other and actually critique each other's work and such. discord is fun for me and Twitter is slowly getting there too since Instagram seems to hate NSFW artists like me.

@DesignzRUs1

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, you nailed it. It doesn’t feel like a community at all, just a “social class” if that makes sense. Most big artists are complete snobs and look down on smaller creators even if their work is great. It’s hard to make friends too since no one interacts much and when you DO try to reach out, people are rude and flat out ignore you. Whatever, I’m just happy to have 3k followers so far and my loyal fans.

@HystericalDark

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I need a place like pre-Eclipse DeviantArt...or tumblr before that weird porn ban thats banning even bikini women and shirtless dudes

The popular artists always only share other popular artist friends works so the smaller artists never get seen it’s so unfair, we never had a chance. I almost wanted to close my instagram today cause it’s like I’m invisible anyways ..

@CrazyAlienLady051

3 жыл бұрын

And what's funny: Seeing people get angry and accuse small art accounts of "attacking" bigger artists once someone makes statement about how one-sided Instagram's algorithm is and how bigger accounts get more attention thsn smaller accounts. At this point I'm convinced Twitter and Instagram are the new Tumblr. I made a reply to someone's comment on Instagram about how bad the algorithm is and suddenly I get preached to by three users about how my 200 follow count and that likes don't matter.

@joined_shores_art

3 жыл бұрын

Especially because I always think "yay new friend! Yeeee!" and then i do my best to support and save their work in an extra folder and they just don't give the same energy back? Like they preach about "UwU support everyone!!" but then my work just never gets liked or posted on their story. I just end up thinking "I'm not included in everyone or what? What is the issue? Is it because I draw OC art and you're too afraid to tell me you don't care about my characters and treat me like this instead of just unfollowing which hurts way less than being willingly tossed aside??" That's a long comment I'm sorry 😳

@joined_shores_art

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrazyAlienLady051 Glad you have 200! Tbh the "you have x amount of followers!!" has become such a joke within the community (or at least my friends and I use it as a joke) but yeah, you're right about the algorithm being one sided, so I don't understand why those people attacked you

As a small instagram artist that have been improving on my art for years, this video really made me emotional. It's really painful when we try our best, when we put all our heart and love into our work, and nobody actually sees it. And then when you look at other creators who, probably have are in the same level as us when it comes to their art skills, but have a BIG following we just look at ourselves and sometimes we think "I can do that too but nobody will see my work" or even "I can do better than that, why aren't I that known". That last part might sound a lil selfish you might think, but that's the truth. I'm not saying like "Oh, those big artists don't deserve to be known!! There's better artists out there!" Hell no! That's not what I'm trying to say. What I'm saying, is the perspective of a small instagram artist , or from any other platform. I'm glad this video was made so that we can spread awareness on this subject.

Damn this was an informative video there are also alot of things I hate about ig art like the algorithm where fanart gets more likes and recognition Fanart is cool I also like it but I think more original artists deserve more.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yes true. Original art deserves more that’s why when artists build a following from fanart they then start to create their own ips, like daverapoza who started starveil, and then Steve lichman which has becoming so popular!!

@goldencheese7492

4 жыл бұрын

Ah I see I'm new to this art thing so it's nice getting information from a pro thanks!

@Luka.shrekie

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I hate that my fanart (original not copied) has more likes than my original character designs ;-;. instagram.com/riso.fo/ that's my link if you don't mind taking a look and seeing if you personally like it or not:P

@stefana8860

2 жыл бұрын

idk i find it hard to grow even if i mostly draw fanarts lol, ig is pretty harsh..

thank you so much for raising awareness about this. It's such a fatal flaw within the social media community and no one should feel discouraged to do or draw what they love. you're not alone, small artists :) let's help each other as much as we can.

I don’t expect bigger artists to share my work just because I have less followers. I want my work to be shared by anyone (big or small) based on merit. I want it to be shared by someone who can recognize the skills I’ve worked so hard to hone over the years. I don’t want a fucking pity share, and I doubt anyone else would either.

In German we have a saying: "Du sprichst mir aus der Seele", which means "You speak from my soul" and there's really no expression more fitting for what I feel after watching our video. It's not just the instagram art community, it's also fandom spaces. People have stopped sharing. They'll complain that the fandom is dying but when a small and/or traditional artist like myself throws something out there, it's ignored because apparently we're still beneath them and their "content starved (but only if it's exceptional art by an artist who already has thousands of followers)" hypocrisy. It's why young/beginner/passionate-but-not-yet-there artists stop posting and leave fandoms or social media. It's a sad phenomenon, really.

@somesortofweeb9891

3 жыл бұрын

GO GERMANY

I feel a little guilty for doing fan art but I find channeling my love of a franchise is less intimidating than doing original work. I'm slowly starting to think of original ideas but I don't have the confidence to develop them fully. My ig is rogue_noir_draws

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Hahha doing fanart is not bad at all! It will help you grow definitely!

@Chan-qk9eh

4 жыл бұрын

Mohammed Agbadi yeah and unlike pretty girls, there’s plenty of diversity Also, movies and other visual story telling items like comics have pretty much every shot put for a reason and there’s so many ways to study a 2 hour thing. Actually quite amazing like you could study emotions, climates, even putting a concept you were thinking about and integrating it into the fandom. So yeah, there’s a lot of ways to improve with fan art. Tho it might be annoying to put the real love to the side, at least it’s less of a chore than drawing stupid models that all look alike.

@wrona_serowa

3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat. I mean I love drawing How To Train Your Dragon and Breath of the Wild characters but I feel guilty for not making lot of my own characters 😔

@tinyluchino2626

3 жыл бұрын

I ONLY do fanart lol

Im just tired of these boring procreate pretty girl paintings. All of them look he exact same.

I feel this. I've been on instagram since around 2013 and its been such a demotivating slow grind. Thank you for saying this!

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Anytime man! I hope it gets better.

@Luka.shrekie

3 жыл бұрын

Could you drop your ig, if you still post mines riso.fo so don't be alarmed by me liking and commenting through what I may personally like in your work boop

Yes!! I hate the pressure of algorithm and hate the side work done (commenting, sharing, liking other artists) just so WE could get reach ourselves. I do it for genuine reasons but once I get messages for a follow back that's when it gets irritating! And the tagging, the hashtag trends, that challenges, ohmaigash soooo draining sometimes!

@LittleMissDevil_

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I don’t mind helping out other underrated artists either! But it sucks when people take advantage and ask for follows back and unfollow if you don’t... It’s a sick game at this point.

As a 3D artist i have a similar issue on Instagram, that's why i post my art mainly on artstation now

Thank you for addressing the problems, I'm a small artists too and the struggle is too real. It sucks and frustrating. You have to work to the bone to be noticed and it gets exhausting. When I started, I did art challenges and mostly dtiys challenges, it got me 50 followers within the first couple months, but it was a steep hill to get to a 100 followers. So, I can emphasize with a lot of you, keep going and go at your own place, because the daily races thing will drag you down.

As pessimistic as it may sound, the moment you're looking for validation online of your work, you have basically compromised yourself as an artist, especially on Instagram. No one is immune from wanting validation (inc myself) but Instagram is a rigged system, the good doesn't always float to the top and mediocrity reigns supreme. Rehashed art, fanart with little to no artistic merit (copy paste), predictable mundane pop-art and portraits of pinterest girls is 95% of content at the 'top' of Instagram art. While I understand some people's desperation for validation for professional reasons, if you're not doing art professionally you shouldn't participate in this toxic culture of throwaway art. Its damaging to your growth as an artist and severely limits your subject matter. While I won't claim not to be happy when my work is noticed and appreciated, I'm not going out of my way to cater to the 'trend' of now for some hollow online "validation".

@nine-vi7rw

4 жыл бұрын

@Shaman Xeed I'm assuming they mean redrawing fanart that is just directly copied/traced from the photo with little to no changes, which is by all means the lowest form of fan art.

@samantaraafat8526

4 жыл бұрын

@Shaman Xeed they didn’t mean ALL fanart, genius. They meant fanart where the artists copies the original image directly, which is pretty terrible.

@mjmagpayo9750

4 жыл бұрын

good artist borrow great artist steal

@shibapatrol801

4 жыл бұрын

@Shaman Xeed One, I'm Japanese so I can't be a weeb. Two, I never said all fanart has no artistic merit, only those who add nothing to the original work. Physically or digitally traced work are everywhere on Instagram.

@reflectingPastChoices

4 жыл бұрын

@@shibapatrol801 Japanese people can ABSOLUTELY be weebs. Second : if you're trying to become a professional artist, you HAVE to caref about you social media following. It's vital. You're not "compromised as an artist" if you're trying to be famous. Famous is the only to be a professional freelance artist. Third : fanarts are not lazy. And lastly : you seem to have a lot of misconception in your head, including (ut not limited to) art misconceptions so I'll assume you're pretty young and not blame you too much for your ignorance. But please, don't say such things again. Professionals will know it's wrong, but young artist might believe you and that is no good at all.

the sadder part is when you take a break and suddenly all your followers are dead and your reach is like negative 100

I know that this is from March, but I find surprisingly that Tiktok has been a new venue for new artists wanting to get discovered. Unlike Instagram, often times videos are randomized which essentially means that there is a fairly equal chance for everyone to hit the FYP. I agree that IG's new algorithm is IMPOSSIBLE to get recognition.

as a small artist less than 100 followers, I feel like quitting .. tbh I spent 4 or 5 hrs on one piece and ..I want to become an independent artist but with very small followers, I can't chase my dream as an independent artist .. I am really sad

I completely agree. VERY well said. Support your GROWING artists.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yes man!!!

Can I just say you're shading is great.

This is amazing, it’s truly encouraging to see that you care about the younger artists, even recognizing the struggle of the unrecognized artists on social media. Thank you!

@DesignzRUs1

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, huge artists like this never seem to care about smaller folks. It’s refreshing to see someone talk about how things really are

the lighting on this is incredibly nice. It's inspirational to me. I want to try to make a piece with this kind of light setup, very dramatic. Thank you for your insight.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Try it out and tag me!!

It is kind of depressing when you consistently post art and no one sees it no matter how hard you try.

getting compliments from fellow artists or non artists felt so good and even pushes you to do more better at art, i don’t really get alot but 1 or two comments about my art makes me smile big :)

This is really good information. I didn’t start my channel to make money (even though it would be cool 😆) I did it because I wanted to become better at art and thought having a channel and community would help keep me motivated/accountable, and so far it has. I don’t depend on it for income, but I would like to become big in the sense that I would then have a platform to help smaller artists that are having a harder time being seen BE seen. I just think that would be so much fun 😊 I don’t necessarily want to become known for my art (even though that could also be cool) , but it would be awesome to become known as ‘that one art KZreadr who shouts out tons of small fellow artists’!

I feel you, personally my account was only able to grow because I moved to creating comics and even at that the algorithm makes it a bit tricky unless you pay. prior to my switch growth was very slow, only way i would’ve gotten eyes on my work was with fanart and....ehemm 👀 fan service. Great video as always Mo! ❤️🔥

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I’m a big advocate for fan art. I have built my entire accounts off doing fanart. But I also network a lot and that helps me.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

I think you should network with similar artists with your style of art from different countries

@itriedfollowingatutorial828

4 жыл бұрын

aye fan art is fun, especially sakimi chan she be making 6 fig a month haha, thats top fan art status. i personally love fan art tho

@user-qy7dz1op5q

4 жыл бұрын

@WoshDraws Wosholaas

1) they all draw billie eilish 50 times on their page

it feels like i'm the only one who doesn't care that much about followers and likes. i tend to spend my time more on art rather than spending my time being envious on 500k artist. i mean, i like what im doing and i know i'll get there. i do gintama fanart because i like gintama. i do original content bc i have tons of ideas. i don't like doing it bc i want more followers or likes, but because its my passion. sure, i want to get my work out there, but i don't wanna lose my passion by drawing whats trendy just to be fit in instagram's standards. i hope my fellow artist never lose their passion and continue doing what they love. it's okay not to follow the trend, you may be small now but you'll get there too.

@rosyro8033

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree

@labmember009

3 жыл бұрын

Oath!!! If you spend your time experimenting and improving, and find yourself happy with what you’re creating, the followers will eventually come. People out here stressing about numbers and stuff when they don’t put in the time to grind and perfect their trade..

I've been taking a break from social media, just so i can get away from all the numbers. I've grown so much in the last couple of months but it's hard to be surrounded by artists who seem to be growing faster, getting better, even if they're your friends.

Damn. This just got recommended to me on youtube and it really hits close to home. This really got me down, working hard to make a drawing and being so excited to share it to the world only to be met with silence. Like your hard work just falls into the void the moment you post it. It really got me down at one point. Im happy to be able to draw again. My girlfriend loves my work and that made me find the joy of drawing again and thats all that matters.

I have another pretty weird experience and want to share it here. So as a small artist myself I often tried to promote and be active in another small artist accounts if I truly enjoyed their works. It's really pitiful to see them trying to interact with their audience, but due to small count their barely got any response. Therefore I started to be as active and supportive as I can so they won't feel like nobody cares. And absurd in this that most of the time they just ignored it. I'm not even talking about supporting in response, they just ignored all I do. Like, why? Because I'm not some Ilya Kuvshinov and my shares, likes, comment doesn't have value? I came to this conclusion because I saw that attention from bigger accounts was perceived quite differently, with all that "Thanks for your comment man, I'm so happy you liked my art!" and all that stuff. And I'm just sitting there like an idiot... I hate social media to be honest... It seems like everybody just care about their own benefits and playing friendly only when it's profitable.

@DesignzRUs1

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much sums up Instagram! I’m sorry you dealt with that...people can be so shallow sometimes.

@LittleMissDevil_

3 жыл бұрын

THIS. I’ve witnessed favoritism in the art community and it’s gross..

as a small itty bitty tiny artist myself, ive been making a conscious effort to go out of my way and cheer on other small artist for their work. Even if their work dont look impressive, especially so in fact. I've been in their place before where i post something seemingly very simple and pretty low in detail and quality. I want to let them know that their work is seen and appreciated. Famous instagram artists already have thousands of people tailing them. They do NOT need you, seriously. Their work is great and on a whole differnt level, i get that. But just think about how much of a difference your compliment would make for someone who only gets 2 likes per posts vs someone constantly bombarded with likes, follows and dms.

@Artist1974CH

3 жыл бұрын

Instagram's algorithm is the culprit. I have seen well known people posted low quality content and still get huge likes and more followers. You can bust your tail making artwork, post it, type in the hashtags and share it; but the Instagram algorithm can only dictate who can and cannot see your work. The algorithm only hurts small accounts not big accounts with well known people, models, etc.

This video is what makes you different from others. So much respect for you bro. As a hobbyist artist now 30 years old I’ve struggled to stay motivated to draw. But people like you keep us going. This year it’s all going to be better and I can’t wait to help fellow artists like you are! Keep up the honest work.

Tbh this really messed me up coming to Instagram- no one really reaches out to you, and in some cases to get a bigger following feed, most artist replicate the same style to get large followings. (You can see this a lot in the bnha community)

@DesignzRUs1

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, no one EVER reaches out. It’s annoying and it’s hard to make friends; I’ve constantly tried initiating conversations but it’s always one sided. I’m not a small account and I do have high engagement but it can be super boring because of this.

I agree with this. I stopped posting to my account for a year bc it was really frustrating how instagram works. I just got back to it recently, with the mindset that I'm not going in there for a huge following, I'm going back to build a strong relationship with fellow artists. and hopefully, those bonds and friends that I make along the way, would help me someday.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s the great way to do it. It’s a good thing to network with other artists to build a relationship as that can help you get work later down the line.

One time, i think i became a tiny bit desperate with atleast having just even the smallest attention in my instagram but i couldn't really do that through bold posts or stories since im a bit shy😂 so i opted to just comment to big ig artists' posts saying that they could check out my account if they want to, you know the usual stuff. But i didn't notice that i commented twice or thrice on an artists'posts and they dmed me saying "Stop your fkcing spam boy, just improve your art and see how start to grow your acc. if your art is shit, nobody is going to follow you" which i understood, it was quite harsh but it is the truth (and in a way, it was rlly my fault hdhshs), if people don't like your art they wont pay attention to it. But how can you really know you improved in art or have great art if your post only reaches a small portion of social media users? AHhhh it's just so frustrating, like what must i dO xjxjdj it's so disheartening 🤧

Just stumbled upon this video and it really spoke to me. I've been feeling a bit discouraged with Instagram and my art but your words made me realize that likes, comments and reach are all relative and not a measurement of how good or bad I am. Thank you!

The reposting accounts get more views and likes instead of the original artist, sometimes they won't even give credit to them. The popular artists gets more popular while small artist like me stays to be small.

Thank you for this. Sometimes i just wish to have some interaction to my instagram account, as im new there. But with barely people looking at my drawing, had me sometime think "am i really that bad ?". I keep my mind to keep improving and dont expect too much 😅.

@TheCosmicBlend

4 жыл бұрын

Ari Estrada you’re not bad buddy! It’s just that people aren’t able to discover your art coz there so many other people posting their work and even promoting it! Believe me I’ve been through the same and found it incredibly hard to get recognised🤦🏻‍♀️ I’d suggest you should make a KZread channel there’s a chance people can discover you! I make arts too! It would mean a lot if you checked them out on my channel😊

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure. That’s the way to go...it was easier some years back but now everything is just terrible, for a new account to get noticed you’ll need a lot of blessings and prayers!!!

@blublueart578

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAgbadi having you to have time to care about new artist and their art is amazing. Hope you always stay positive and humble. Hope the best for you. 🙏

People getting mad over art tutorials and the fact that small/beginner artist have a hard time getting their art noticed is what drives me insane about Instagram.

I'm going through the comments and I see my fellow artists going through all the things I personally go through. I relate with all of you so much. I have a few ideas on how to combat these feelings - I hope they work for you. 1) Create what you love. I have realized that the more I paint what I want instead of what might be 'popular' I get more praise than usual. Because the love shows up in the work. I have started BTS fanart and I got SO many compliments that I never got before. 2) Try to post on different platforms to expand your network - Facebook groups, Tumblr, KZread - repurpose the same content everywhere. 3) Research a bit on finding the best communities for you, be it fanart, abstract art, or anatomy. Whatever you like the most, and you paint the most. 4) Encourage other artists publicly. It takes NOTHING to share another artists work. I have started doing with abandon. As an introvert I message people very less, but I comment publicly, share their work and share genuine feedback. We know how it feels to get this, so I make it happen for others too. I hope these help, these points have helped me overcome 'just numbers and algorithms' mindset I was plagued with for years. My IG: @pripayal

I'm very happy that you've spoken about this, I don't have a huge following (

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome !! I’ll be sure to do my part!

I will also admit it can be frustrating. Even with follow loops, no one really supports you after a while very inactive. DTIYS can be more boring after a while. Even if your a big artists sometimes a lot of other people wont even notice you. I had my fair share of being with other artists on IG some don't really support your work after they reach the height of popularity. My best advice don't post art for IG or for the sake of followers. Just post your work just show who you are and stand out.

I've only been active on sharing my art in social media for 5 1/2 months, so yeah, my views are low. My average likes is around 16-18, and a lucky few got to around 25. And that's significantly more than I get on Twitter or Facebook. I figure all I can really do is follow the mantra of "be persistent." I draw daily and post weekly, drawing around my day job schedule so 1 new art a week is about my pace. Don't get me wrong, I KNOW it takes time to gain an online presence, I was never expecting "overnight success." I'm willing to put in the time and hope it pays off, and hopefully my art improving with practice. So THANK YOU for making videos like this, you're a genuine man of the people. And my IG is same as my name here. :)

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Be persistent and keep uploading! Focus on improving your skills too! You’ll see a difference!

Instagram really hurts. It really does. I've been trying to get more recognition for my art and it always gets a few likes but it never surpassed 12 likes. I'm grateful that people take time to like it but it really hurts seeing all these bigger artists out there and then smaller people struggling. I have a friend who used to actually have a smaller following than me but now she has such a big following and it hurts me. I'm jealous I know. She talks to all these big artists, even my own inspirations and I'm here... stuck at the bottom... where I have been for 3 years. It's really frustrating and it makes me almost breakdown when I post a drawing I worked hard on and see it only get 12 likes while other people get over 100 in a day for their "10-minute doodle". It just puts me in a funk.

Love this!. I love you sharing your perspective as always. Keep Em coming!

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!

great advice to the community of smaller artists as a whole, love the positivity! I'm lucky to have another larger account that I can promote myself with and now after hearing this i'm gonna try to use this to promote other small artists.

Just wanted to share to everyone that posting your artwork on reddit might help too. Subreddits like r/art and r/fanart can be used to plug your insta. Keep hustling guys. You're gonna make it one day.

@LittleMissDevil_

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice! I’ll try those subreddits and hopefully they work out!

@sheikhspeare6637

3 жыл бұрын

@@LittleMissDevil_ Best of luck. People on reddit are really kind and supportive.

@LittleMissDevil_

3 жыл бұрын

@Sujal Gurung Thank you! 💕 And I have a question, I’m new to Reddit and it seems difficult at first...how does it work when posting in a subreddit? And how do you plug in your Instagram without looking spammy?

@sheikhspeare6637

3 жыл бұрын

@@LittleMissDevil_ While posting, take a look at the subreddit rules. You can find it on the right side after scrolling down a bit. Each subreddit has different rules so be careful or your post will get removed by moderators. Most art subreddits will have a certain title format you need to follow while posting. You should be fine posting your instagram handle in the comments or simply in a brakcet in the title. To avoid looking spammy, either just leave your handle there or say something simple like any help would really be appreciated. Redditors are really supportive. Also, what's your handle btw. I'll give you a follow.

@LittleMissDevil_

3 жыл бұрын

@Sujal Gurung Thank you so much for the tips and advice; it’ll definitely come in handy! 😄 My handle is @Littlemissdevil21! I’ll definitely follow ya back; thanks for the support!

I feel overshadowed af by other artists. While they do put so much effort into their art, I feel like efforts by me and other artists like myself should be recognized as well.

I sometimes see ig artists with big following/likes and their style is that "cute chibi art" like yes I like chibi art but sometimes you can't tell who did it bc it's so similar...You either post suuper simple chibi art or do some "aesthetic" digital art for likes. Idk I just post whatever....My art ig is @/haga.draws

Your voice is so calming :) Instagram's definitely getting worse and worse. So many artists (including myself) are getting fewer likes on their posts than when they had half the number of followers. It's extremely difficult to get motivated to keep posting on there when it seems so pointless

It's so satisfying seeing you painting with lasso, n airbrush. You made it look so easy 😍😍😍 when I used Lasso tool, I cannot pinpoint which one should I place it, and when I paint it, it just doesn't look right lol 😅

This popped up in my recommended and I completely agree, it's the reason why I lost interest in uploading to Instagram. How I've dived into the community was mainly from Deviantart but I want to broaden my reach and want to see what base feels most comfortable. I currently have mostly been on Twitter due to the fact that my friend is there and I'm her twitch channel artist.

I mean, I draw as a hobby but still the fact that moe and pretty stuff is the only way to get attention is hard to be motivated. Plus, is hard to stop comparing yourself to other people

Wow I just accidentally come across this video! - first of all, that hooded figure with the sword is just outstanding! Your process looks very complicated. I love it! - second, thank you for your fervent support to the young artists! It's very much appreciated.

Not related to the topic of the video but this speedpaint is genuinely amazing?? I watched the whole thing and it actually helped me understanding how to get my shading to look better and and how to colour my drawings! I never thought of colouring like you do, I tried your method and jt was way easier for me then colouring every parts of my drawing one by one, or erasing a lot every time i try to shade/add lighting !

I’m so sad that all of this is so true. It seems as if almost everyone is doing it for the thrill of the popularity, not just for the fun of sharing it with everyone. What I would highly suggest all of you, don’t do it for the likes. Do it because you *enjoy* making art, and want to share it! I share my art because I want to see people’s opinions and get some feedback on how I can improve! Also, here’s my Instagrams: Main - @xeno.phoenix074 Irl - @anya_x.irl

This is honestly true though. I wanted to start my own insta art page a few weeks ago but I've been holding it off for now due to different factors, the biggest being that I just don't know how I can grow without having to practically sell what I like about my own art style. On a lighter note,I am honestly in love with your art style. It is very comic book and I love that because I read way too many comic books as a child so it brings back some nice memories I had. You use really basic lines and yet your final piece looks so detailed and stuff.

I cannot express how much I love this message. I used to do this before the algorithm issues and I remember it inspired me too to keep posting. I've lost my fire on Instagram and I think this will help me gain that back. Thank you!

I legit stopped drawing because I felt like my art was so bad that it was not worth even sharing anymore. And these days I just reblog/retweet stuff I like on twitter and tumblr... This video just hit me emotionally because it got me thinking of all of these "what if" moments...

They limit your reach for you to pay for the reach. If you open the facebook business tool and create an ad or boost a post you can see options like "Reach your followers" or "Reach people that don't follow me" This kind of options shows how the algorithm works! They don't show your post for your own followers so you can pay to reach them, It's just ridiculous. That's why Tik Tok grows so fast and instagram created reels, they are afraid. They spend their time creating new ways how to **** with users and artists is the weak part of the equation, we get tired of that. It's incredible how marketers keeps influencing this and saying it's cool . Instagram makes people and mainly artists sick. It encourages art theft! Have you ever tried to help artists reporting stolen arts? It's impossible! They don't allow this kind of reports because intellectual property law is different in all countries. It's so difficult and bureaucratic to report stolen art. But if you mark people in your fanart they notifies and sometimes shadow ban you! If you guys see a little what is happening in US about big tech companies monopoly you will understand this kind of stuff better, it's all about money, sorry but you are just a number! Don't let this companies make you sick. We need to take care of our mental health .

This is why I recently stopped posting on instagram. My account was just stagnant and recently actually started dropping in interactions and it was just depressing. I definitely think on insta and twitter there's this specific group of artists that always get seen. People say "you need to interact with people you need to do this that and the other" I've done all that shit man. It's tiring and gets me nowhere. So I stopped. Art isn't my job but I'd like it to be. I don't focus too much on the follows anymore but it still bugs me idk

As a guy who once tried to go through the path of earning a living from art. I sort of just gone numb to it. I've lost count of how many time I try best to create a piece of work , something that I'm genuinely proud of. Only to be reply by complete silent. I share my works on deviantart, tumblr, twitter, pixiv and even artstation. I tried to follow trends, draw fanarts, etc. But nothing....not even a single like,acknowledgement,critic or ANYTHING.. My work literally worth less than a random meme post XD. I have to join discord and forum to beg for critic and exposure (and humiliate myself in the process). 3 years of doing that, I just sort of stop caring and gave up( I have the liberty of just giving up as I have another source of income). I still draw and paint and I still upload my work. However, I just stop caring about gaining view/exposure anymore. Ironically, I started to enjoy drawing/painting again because of it. It kinda sad, now I'm recalling it but the facts is not everyone could be join the big boy league. I'm not the special case, there are thousands of artist who are better than me, yet they fail to gain attention. With how saturated the entire internet art community. Good art don't equal to having large amount follower, period. You need to crack the system and play the card right for the having a slight chances of getting notice.

i want to network with other smaller artists on instagram but instagram in general makes me pretty anxious and it took me a long time to build up the mental fortitude to actually put my work out there, and while i still have a long way to go and my art isn't anything great, i know i've been trying to improve in whatever capacity i can manage right now and i'm hoping i can get more involved in the community, as opposed to doing what i do right now, which is dropping a post in the void every fortnight and then vanishing for days at a time and then rinse & repeat. thanks for the video!

anyone else distracted by the amazing piece he's drawing?

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@galaxysilver69

3 жыл бұрын

Same tbh

Thank you so much for this! I've thought about the issue a lot and I realized I no longer have motivation to build an Instagram following...I've been on the platform for 4 years and I barely have 450 followers...I think I'm skilled yet my reach is quite poor despite using the correct tags and posting at the right times. Algorithms are terrible and few people care about us the growing artists.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man it’s annoying sometimes instagram shadowbans accounts for using too many hashtags.

@Alex-iq3hj

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAgbadi huh i didn't know that! I usually use 25-28 tags per post, so that might explain it all..Although it's stupid? The platform literally allowed up to 30 tags for a reason..I'm contemplating on starting fresh.

this is so true...its soo frustrating..i was soo depressed 2 days ago...you work so hard on a piece.....and not a lot of people really show the support..its so disheartening ...as a new artist in the industry.its sooo frustrating

This video is just so good, it explains amazingly and rants politely something that is really messing up some artists. I can even dare to say (In my opinion of course) that a lot of artists enter on a deep depression state because of the IG algorith and they just stop drawing at all. Honestly I'0m starting to struggle with IG because even if I start to post on a daily basis I keep losing followers and interactions, but we need to be sincere about the fact that you really need to keep up with the trends and fanarts. It gets really annoying, very fast but sadly "this is the way" Have an excellent day people and keep drawing.

8:00 Oh no The dreaded *Traditional artist*

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣

I wonder if art memes and community projects would help, like how the "Lessons Animation Taught Us" and "One Marvelous Scene" prompts on KZread brought traffic to smaller film channels. I wonder if 2-panel comic prompts could catch on... Something that makes people go "I wonder what other people's take on this looks like?"

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that sounds dope!! It could work if the top art channels started doing this!

This was really encouraging to hear. I've been putting off getting an instagram for my art for a while now but it was mostly out of fear, but this was really awesome and even seeing everyone in the comments and in your "3 Tips to Improve Your Instagram" account have been really refreshing. Thank you very much!

Thank for always upload you have inspired me to improve my art. Thanks to watching your tutorials/advise I've noticed a steady increase in my drawing process.

Exactly how I feel rn, Its very discouraging and sometimes I lose hope, I post both on IG and KZread, And IG is very hard to get noticed, and youtube been taking away my views, Bruh I'm thinking bout just doing traditional oil paintings and going the traditional way and start entering art galleries....

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Man just stick with it. Ig is hard. I’ll suggest you focus on your KZread. Post good quality content everyday and once your KZread kicks off all your other social media platforms would benefit from it.

@RenzaissanceTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@MohammedAgbadi Thank you, and will do !!

I mostly gave up on posting much on insta not just because of the algorithm, it did start from that though I stopped posting cuz I saw no point in sharing my work anymore so I mostly draw for myself, but now that I have more time to focus on my art I realized that I’m barely improving, if not at all so now I don’t draw as often as I used to bcuz of the frustration of the lack of improvement leading to lack of motivation

this video is priceless i've been trying my best to share and elevate the work of my peers and mutuals for a while now, even if it feels useless cause i'm just one person, i won't stop twitter is the same, if noone rts or comments, twitter basically shadowbans you from your own followers tumblr less so, but when you get no reblogs, then less people see your art. And most people don't reblog the small fry artists like me. Great video, I hope it reached a lot of people, I completely share the sentiment man.

I really appreciate your channel and how you help out smaller artists. It's really motivating. I've been thinking about growing an art account after I graduate highschool this year. This vid has def inspired me to really go for it.

@MohammedAgbadi

4 жыл бұрын

Go for it man! You can be sure to get some help from here!