The whole new era really does feel like "budget survivor"

@freddytang2128

5 ай бұрын

Even if they stay in Fiji they could at least take a helicopter and have a waterfall picnic for a reward. Instead of “share one chicken at the sanctuary” (eye roll)

@thr3LoadR

5 ай бұрын

@@freddytang2128 ....but that's where good things happen!

@admiralaokiji7889

4 ай бұрын

im only recently starting to watch a bit of survivor because my sister is a super fan and making me watch it. While I like it and have watched seasons 43, 44 and 46 right now, I remember watching a bit of survivor back in 2006-2010 era and it seemed larger than life with them going to different islands every season doing insane challenges. I guess the ratings are not the same compared to that golden era so they gotta make due by staying in fiji and like you said feeling like "budget survivor"

@tulipcassidy

4 ай бұрын

SO agree! E.g., “The Sanctuary, where good things happen.” Really? I remember the olden days of true iconic rewards

@MoeSzyslak20

3 ай бұрын

Post merge is as good as ever, pre-merge is currently a mess imo

3 tribes of 6 will kill Survivor if they insist on continuing that way. It destroys the potential premerge dynamics and forces safe play

@dancegregorydance6933

5 ай бұрын

And it usually ends up with one tribe dominating a la Reba.

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

It’s not even just Reba, Luvu(41) made up 4/6 players remaining, Taku reached top 6 with just Romeo and Mike left, 43 is weirdly enough the only season where this hasn’t happened so far, and obviously the Tika 3

@bendube5497

5 ай бұрын

Then add the uncertainty of extra votes and lost votes. So hard to make any moves now

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

71% of all sole survivors came from the tribe that had the majority at the merge. That the reason the 3 tribe season was introduced to prevent the minority tribe from being pagonged out the game. And that's the reason we have idols. Otherwise more than 71% of winners would come from the majority tribe.

@SweetRyGuy

5 ай бұрын

This is how I’ve felt the entire new era. Whichever tribe has the biggest guy on it at the start usually has the winning player on the tribe. They don’t have to go to tribal for the first part of the game, therefore less conflict in the tribe, build stronger relationships, etc. it’s so frustrating.

The live reunion is what I probably miss the most. I also liked when every juror was able to ask a question.

@javidlj8676

5 ай бұрын

They still ask questions. FTC last a long time, hours even. Sometimes people just get the butt end of the edit.

@freddytang2128

5 ай бұрын

I think FTC got reformed to prevent jurors from either grandstanding like Spencer/Erik Cardona/Reid. Or to prevent overly personal questions like “I want you to apologize to me”.

@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan8640

5 ай бұрын

I miss that too because it robs us of seeing how they all feel after watching the season

@KatLuff

4 ай бұрын

Man, nothing was as cool as a kid as watching Jeff fly off hanging from a helicopter holding the urn with all the final votes.

@robindeal9307

4 ай бұрын

And everyone got an opportunity to speak at the live reunion

I would love for one season if they did a "back to basics." 16 people, 1 tribe swap, maybe 1 or 2 idols, a final 2 and have all challenges be from the first 10 seasons of the show. Let the cast carry the season.

@leolucas6232

Ай бұрын

Also if they want it to be reminiscent of old seasons, they should cast people who aren't superfans of the show

I hate that Jeff yells "THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT ON SURVIVOR!!!!!!!" every week and sometimes multiple times in an episode

@mustangthings

5 ай бұрын

YA GOTTA DIGGGG

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

To quote British comedian David Mitchell, "in a free market, when you have too much of something that you can't use and have nowhere to store, it's value inevitably falls".

@mo_13.

2 ай бұрын

COME ON, YOU'RE STILL IN THIS!!!

The challenges in particular really get to me. Especially because there have been dozens of seasons of international Survivor, possibly genuinely hundreds once you included non-English speaking seasons, that they could draw from for inspiration! You're telling me we can't have the objectively hilarious charades challenge? That's the greatest challenge of all time!

@keithprivett3878

3 ай бұрын

Reward challenges especially can just be fun. One of my favorites international ideas comes from a latin american (Colombian?) version. Remember that challenge where they have a mini idol on a little platform and you have to knock the other person's to the ground first? (Seen in Phillipines at final 14)? This version had multiple teams and two same-gender representatives from each team in the ring each round so you can't keep your eyes on everyone. Players who are too focused on attack risk being literally blindsided. Players can make themselves an easy target so their teammate can attack from behind. Teams occasionally ally to go after the leader in the challenge.

@HenryHickmanSurvivor

3 ай бұрын

@@keithprivett3878 see now that sounds amazing! There's so much creativity the world over for US the draw on, and I think it would make for a better experience for the castaways and the viewers!

All of the recent seasons have "The Circle" syndrome where almost every single player has this totally fake-nice persona and they are just hamming it up for the cameras. No more real people on these seasons, almost everyone is some influencer micro-celebrity, or aspiring to become one.

Hard disagree on the days changing from 39 to 26 not changing much. Just makes it feel like even less of a survival show, as well as much less of a "journey" experience. Same goes for the same location every season like you mentioned.

@dancegregorydance6933

5 ай бұрын

You barely get to know the contestants and speeds up the game removing any breathing room. Breathing room usually used for character depth… getting to know the contestants.

@Flando93

5 ай бұрын

10000%@@dancegregorydance6933

@carlahyche9816

5 ай бұрын

I’ve thought a good balance would be like 32 days. They can be in isolation for a week, but still a few more days to get to know them

@handsoaphandsoap

5 ай бұрын

I don’t see a change in the pacing of the edited show, but I see a very clear change in how the relationships on the island are forming now vs the pre-41 seasons. Spending 26 days with someone is just not the same as spending 39 days with someone and any player that struggles early on is gonna have an almost impossible task of recovering from a bad first impression. The first boot has like a day to develop bonds with their tribe (once you remove time allocated to non-camp life like the challenge, tribal, Sweat vs Savvy, filming confessionals or just having to go to the bathroom), that’s not nearly enough for them to convince five other players that they are an asset to the tribe in the long run so we see the first boots in the New Era pretty much only be based on challenge strength since they have nothing else to go on. F.e. how was Zach Wurtenburger supposed to shift the target off himself? He literally just got there and the group kind of just landed on him being the vote and no one wanted to step out of line and put the target on themselves. Give him an extra day, maybe he can develop that bond with Romeo who can in turn flip Drea. Maybe he works that young person bond to his advantage. Maybe he just goes out anyway, but at least he would’ve had a shot. The early pre-merge nowadays sometimes just feels like a Brantsteele simulation to me, whoever drew the wrong card from the pile unceremoniously gets sniped out of the game. It’s not exciting to watch and removes potentially great Survivor players off the board from the get go.

@teamsteed1

5 ай бұрын

The reason why "Survivor" changed from 39 to 26 it is due to the pandemic.

I totally agree on the seasons blending together front. I really struggle to remember which post-WaW seasons are which, who was on what, even who won sometimes. I just feel like i have to think about it a lot more than other seasons

@MythicalPhoebe

5 ай бұрын

Same!

I feel like they cast very diversely in race, orientation, etc, but it feels like everyone has the exact same ideologies and views on the world which makes the whole "microcosm of society" aspect nonexistent.

@BussinandDiscussin

5 ай бұрын

Same thing with TV shows, its boring they always have the same view and style essentially. Its like all women writers read the same thing, grew up the same way, where are the unique voices?

@sentientsardine9729

5 ай бұрын

So this has been pretty much confirmed because part of the casting process involves "does Jeff enjoy talking to you?" Which like... kind of undermines the "all walks of life" aspect of the whole thing. "Does the main producer like you?" is going to skew personalities/ideologies one way.

The budget for that entire reward was $4.99

@MLeveilleeMinistries

3 ай бұрын

$499? Jk

Also hate all the untying of knots in challenges. That is not fun or compelling to watch

A big thing is when survivor started nearly 25 years ago $1 million as the prize was a huge deal, that really meant something then, like that was crazy money in 2000 for someone to win on a show. It’s not like it’s a sum to sneeze at now but the value has really decreased, it’s lost it’s bravado. It used a lot in the selling of the show that that was the incredible prize, like “who will survive and win this giant chunk of money”. I guess it is also maybe a reflection of what you mentioned about them chipping away at the budget. I also remember when they used to win cars, and people kept the cash from the auction sometimes too. It really does feel like the show has gotten cheaper over the years, whereas a lot of shows feel like they get more money infused into them as the years go on. There’s so much more I could go into but I’ll stop here for this comment😅

@freddytang2128

5 ай бұрын

To be fair a million dollars today is probably still like, 600k in 2000 after accounting for inflation. Still like 10-15 years of average salary for most people. But I guess Americans have to pay taxes on the winnings so that takes away a chunk (as Jeff Kent reminded us)

@thr3LoadR

5 ай бұрын

@@freddytang2128 (as Jeff Kent reminded us) Thanks Obama!

@marshallscot

4 ай бұрын

Given inflation, you'd probably have to give away 2 million today to be comparable to 1 million when the show started. Honestly they probably should at this point, because a million dollars is a drop in the bucket compared to the total cost of producing a season, and increasing the prize pool could be a huge boost to publicity. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something like that for season 50.

@haveanicedave1551

4 ай бұрын

Blame Joe Biden and his voters

Post season 40 Survivor just feels.... different. - Cast is more diverse, but everyone went to at least Duke. And is young. Where's the almost homeless blue collars with chips on their shoulders? Genuinely old people with fascinating back stories and cantankerous world view? - 26 days doesn't allow cast relationships and dynamics to marinate and add that extra flavor. There isn't that deep attachment and feeling of topsy turvy relationships that have gone through a lot. - The hot people parading around in their swimwear? By the way this was gender equal. How has society become more prudish? - Too many advantages and Jeff's I don't care if you don't like this new development attitude. - Overall feeling of budget cuts

@Karson-ub4ru

3 ай бұрын

Maybe it's just me who notices, the style of confessions all sound the same. I think they all hired the same reality tv coach.

I don’t like having three tribes anymore. I prefer two tribes of ten people. I also agree with your take on the challenges. They need to mix it up more often

@TheMurrmursonbottle

5 ай бұрын

agreed except i like two tribes of 9 - 9 people at a first tribal council encourages closer votes since only 5 are needed in a plan. ties in survivor usually force more cautious voting which is why we see a lot of big boots at final 9 or 7.

@MLeveilleeMinistries

3 ай бұрын

It's easier to "hide" and fly under the radar in a tribe of 10.

A major thing that I really dont like is just the new casting. Back in the day Survivor casted *REAL* people, they didn’t have to be nice and pleasant, some of them were mean or straight up villainous. You can hate Russell all you want (trust me I do), but he brought something to a show, that not every single player is nice, he played villainous, he backstabbed people, lied, and he owned to his villainy. Whereas with Survivor 46, well they all seem..unauthentic

@donniejohnson1232

5 ай бұрын

You need a villian. Without Jerri Manthey, the Austrailian Outback is straight up boring.

@Lechgang

5 ай бұрын

@@donniejohnson1232 It helps that she seems like an actually decent person, unlike many of the 'heroes' of that season. Mike, Varner, and Elisabeth come to mind.

@Paul_Simon

5 ай бұрын

I've stopped watching (but follow via these videos) because of the casting as you've explained it.

@adelapospisilova9886

4 ай бұрын

It feels like now they are trying to find people with stories, people that feel unique - but when you put 20 "unique" people together you realise they are boring, because their story is the inly thing they have - usually no bigger personality, sense of humour, anything

@loganarnoldkicks4321

4 ай бұрын

@@donniejohnson1232 even with her it was super boring 😂

My boyfriend and I joke all the time about the challenges, "run, get a thing, climb a wall, solve a puzzle". The repetition pre merge is so grinding now that I barely watch the challenges because I find them so boring.

Bro if I'll hear "where good things happen" one more time I'll smash my phone, notebook and PC. So in about 2 months.

Things I hate about survivor they still haven’t cast me after 10 years

@edgarrarrio5018

5 ай бұрын

Don’t give up! Keep going!

@supremeleader7863

5 ай бұрын

Probably ain’t gonna happen then

@andrecanton7591

5 ай бұрын

They mostly recruit ppl, so incredibly lame how you can apply for years and not get on, and someone walking down the street gets on cause they were in the right place at the right time

@trinitychambers8123

5 ай бұрын

​@@andrecanton7591they only want people that fit the narrative they are going for.

@supremeleader7863

5 ай бұрын

@@andrecanton7591 maybe he’s just boring

The way Jeff yells REPEATEDLY “that’s why you don’t quit!” during challenges. Like, yeah dude, they’re not just gonna tap out and walk off the challenge 🙄

I hate that survivor hasn't returned to 39 days. i feel like i have noticed.

@Em.22.23

4 ай бұрын

Check out Australian survivor, they stay on the island for about fifty+ days

@MythicalPhoebe

4 ай бұрын

@@Em.22.23 I watched a season of Australian survivor that was available on youtube a year or two ago with my family. I think it was season 3. It was amazing.

I miss the fact that they now seem to have several changes of clothes. I also don't see on the newer seasons that they have to boil their water. It seems that they do not have to work as hard to survive.

The crew numbers and Jeff’s pay are at least 10 times what it was in the old school era while the pay for the cast is down by about half due to inflation and a far smaller fraction of the total budget. That makes it less appealing to play. Double the cast pay.

US Survivor could learn something from AU Survivor. AU Survivor does so many things right, and also makes it interesting with how they add twists and different dynamics. Another thing I miss is the live reunion. It was so fun when pretty much everyone got asked a question. We were robbed of Winners at War reunion because of poor timing. 😭

@trianreallyhard6600

4 ай бұрын

I agree, AU survivor is so good.

the thing i hate about survivor is that they refuse to do a returnee season. They have so many people to choose from yet we haven’t gotten a returnee season since 40.. (and that was all winners-)

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

A lot of the returning seasons have been problematic for one reason or another. Newbies are more refreshing. We can go another 5 seasons without one.

@Keepsake66

5 ай бұрын

take a look through the 30s casts. they had a string of basically all returnee seasons, in some way, shape, or form. It got REALLY old. And then 40 was meant to be a salute and pseudo goodbye to the first few eras of the game. If you look at it through that lens, it's effectively like they started from scratch in 41, so they need to breed a whole new batch of players before they can return anyone. i think we will see some returnees soon, potentially as soon as this fall...i actually hope they dip into some of the players from the 30s since that stretch had a lot of interesting players that i do miss nowadays.

@thr3LoadR

5 ай бұрын

The first returnee season wasn't until season 8. So by that logic, if they are truly trying to separate the new era from pre-WaW, we will probably see a returnee season around 48 or 49. If not, then I would almost guarantee season 50 to be returnees.

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

@@Keepsake66 And some of things that happened on the returning season. Spencer being told not to vote out Jeremy at F5. I understand we don't have many Black winners but as a Black person I say cast more Black ppl and you don't have to fix a season for a Black person to win no matter how popular they are. Jeremy no way should have survived that vote at F5. Then Sarah busting out a MAGA hat after the jury already voted her the game. After they edited Brad to be the villian. Ozzy said the jury wanted a revote after that. How was she even able to bring something like that on the show. I'm good on returning seasons for a while.

@Keepsake66

5 ай бұрын

@@martonyomchale342 i never heard of these controversies before. i don't follow the players much outside of the game. the Sarah thing is kind of interesting and totally on for her character. She was really good at hiding what mattered to get people to vote for her. Good on her, even though i disagree with her political affiliations wholeheartedly lol. But I'm finding nothing about Spencer being told to keep Jeremy in the game. I'm assuming you mean by the producers? That seems like a conspiracy theory to me. I don't think the producers want to fix the game in any way like that, unless they want Boston Rob to win XD. Jeremy played what i believe to be the best game of survivor I've ever seen and just flat out convinced Spencer to vote his way. He's always been my all time favorite castaway.

This is nitpicking, but I hate some of the sound effects they add. Most notably, anytime a rope is pulled or a rope net is stepped on, production always adds in the same noise

I agree with all your takes. Obviously. ;) But it's the last one you mentioned, the edit, that seriously increasingly turns me off Survivor. Yes, it may also be irritating when they deceive you during an episode to create fake suspense. But what I find unacceptable is when they create fake or alternative stories to justify whatever it is they want to justify: If someone makes it to the final tribal council and they fear the audience will be disappointed with how few votes they got, the production team will cut around in the story. If there was a good strategic move this person masterminded, they may dump the credit onto someone else entirely, or maybe even leave that "storyline" out completely, even if that would have certainly made for very entertaining TV. If someone is about to get "screwed over" by some unfair twist, they may show some footage specifically intended to make the viewers not want to root for that person, so that they'll be fine with that person getting twist screwed. Maybe the fact that... quite an important election is looming in the US (important, far beyond just the US!), but the notion that nobody gives you, the viewer, the real, honest information about what happened, who did what, and therefore who you'd "really" end up rooting for. Everyone has a vested interest in distorting the facts to fit their narrative, and I've often felt betrayed by Survivor after the season was over, when "the actual facts" were revealed through exit interviews. What I end up with is the take that they can make you dislike the most likeable person, they can make the dumbest person look really smart, and they gladly use those tools on a regular basis. And you're never sure which is which. Sad and a major stain on their legacy - even if only to the discerning viewer. T-T

@trinitychambers8123

5 ай бұрын

I agree and even will say that politics are what survivor portrays on a larger scale, affecting all of America. They want to have certain people viewed a certain way. Most civilizations last 200 years. The US is about to hit 250, but pretty sure it will crumble very shortly after, leading to another reset.

@Frenchie100

5 ай бұрын

@@trinitychambers8123 Sadly the US has gained such power & influence worldwide that its development affects the entire world. Massively. 2017 and onwards has basically greenlit the whole "everything goes! be a scumbag! what are they gonna do about it?" movement worldwide. Developed, democratic countries have mostly had a major shift towards totalitarianism & abuse of power. "If we don't have our friends the US anymore, we might just have no choice but to go in the same direction"; "doing the right thing" seems like an increasingly naive idea after what the world saw - and sees - D.T. get away with. T-T

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

@@trinitychambers8123 Just off the top of my head, the Roman Empire lasted approximately 1,000 years, the Holy Roman and Byzantine Empires, which replaced it in the north and the east, lasted another 800 years at least and the Ottoman Empire, which replaced the Byzantine, lasted 600 years. The Maya Empire lasted nearly 1,800 years. Unless I'm mistaken, the US is approaching 300 years.

I hate how people will go through the entire casting process, physical and mental evaluations, leave their jobs and families to travel half way around the world, just to quit in the first few days because they "didn't realize how hard it would be". 😒 IT'S SURVIVOR

I know how to fix post-merge immunity challenges: do not just run them for a winner, run them in such a way that if X players fail to hit some minimum finish it makes hidden immunity idols worthless. For example: in order for hidden immunity idols to be usable at next tribal council, 4 players must last at least 30 minutes on an endurance challenge. Just one example, but force more players to have skin in the game.

talking about intros, are we gonna talk about the old intros from season 4 - 16? They were so cool! The picture of the person burning, water dripping, ripples, etc. I don't know why survivor stopped making thoose intros as they were the most iconic parts of intros. I hope they bring them back.

I stopped watching after Season 40. I tried to get into 42 but everything just felt like they were going through the motions.

@dakineprotoss

5 ай бұрын

i kind of wish they were doing 39 days and moving around the world to different locations, but I still enjoy the new seasons. Its still better than 99.9% of what is available on the internet. Its still edited well, typically casted well and the longer episodes have allowed the characters to grow and breathe a little more in the edit. new survivor still beats any social media content (YT included), and most new produced shows by miles

@dancegregorydance6933

5 ай бұрын

Idk I can think of plenty of Survivor-type reality shows now that are just as good and are varied; The Challenge, Amazing Race, Outlast… Hell I’ve heard that Survivor outside of the US is much more entertaining.

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

Due to the pandemic-sized gap between Winners at War and 41, I missed the memo for when the season started. I tried to fill in online and it felt like I was watching a different show entirely.

@thr3LoadR

5 ай бұрын

@@reubenmanzo2054 I was lucky enough to stumble on 41 about 20 minutes before episode 1 started. Otherwise I would have been in the same boat, I had no idea the show was coming back.

I don't like how Final Tribal Council is basically dictate by 2 people that have to ask every single damn question while the others sit there thinking "Can I get some screen time? You weren't even there long enough to ask what you're asking about." I also hate that every FTC starts with a "Jury Spokesperson" saying "Here's what we as a jury want you to say to give our vote to you - You have to tell us how big of a bitch you were, you have to tell us that you actually were athletic despite losing every immunity, and you have to tell us that your perceived stupidity and obliviousness was planned."

@BussinandDiscussin

5 ай бұрын

Dude that last sentence I don't know if I 100% understood it but it doesn't matter, its so true and funny. Tell us how you were the best at everything so you deserve to win uhh sure I did do everything, haha

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

George Mladenov (Australian Survivor: Brain vs Brawn) was perceived as unathletic due to his lack of attempt in challenges. I reckon if he'd tried to claim he really was athletic, the jury would not have believed it.

I really enjoyed your last point. I never read/watch exit interviews because I thought they wouldn't be interesting but now I realize how much information I've been missing out on. The edits have been bothering me for the last few seasons and another comment on this subject highlighted why: they manipulate the viewer. They often tell the story they want to tell, rather than what happened. I think I would have noticed sooner if I consumed exit interviews.

I used to be hyped for the next season of survivor, but the new era kinda killed that because of how boring every season is. Everything looks and feels the same because of fiji and the reuse of challenges. Plus the rewards just don't feel the same. 3 tribes killed the unpredictably of the game. hopefully they fix everything about the new era soon

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

Three tribes were introduced to save the game. Prior to that it was the winning tribe pagoging the losing tribe at the merge and the winner coming from the tribe that had the majority. Barring an immunity run, and sever idols/advantages if you aren't from the majority tribe at the merge it's a foregone conclusion you aren't winning Survivor.

@fate8718

4 ай бұрын

​@martonyomchale342 While yeah I would agree that could suck Tribe swaps exist for a reason And you can start at 2 teams of 9 at 18 Break away into 3 teams of 5 at 15(now I get tribe majority would still rule but it wouldnt be anywhere near as bad) Then merge at 11

@martonyomchale342

4 ай бұрын

@@fate8718 Yeah it would still be bad. There is no solution for Surivivor's poor game mechanic of pre merge immunity other than too eliminate it completely. Camp everyone together from the beginning, scrap the merge entirely, and do the immunity challenges 2v2 or 3v3 teams made up at random with the losing team going to tribal.

@fate8718

4 ай бұрын

@@martonyomchale342 It wouldnt be ideal no I agree However it would be a lot more "balanced" than what they have going on And we get multiple 9 splits Maybe even a 7 split Which are fun vote splits

I don’t really mind the sanctuary even though it does get old. It’s Propst’s catch phrase “where good things happen” that I don’t like. It started to feel really old after like the 2nd time he said it.

@alri1054

5 ай бұрын

It is a reality show, so of course it is not real

@Nate9-9

5 ай бұрын

I didn’t say it was real. Even as a reality show there is some kind of narrative edited with the episodes and seasons. Some times the edit is better than others. I just meant to say the sanctuary gets a bit repetative, but it doesn’t really bother me. The rewards could still be better. It’s the catch phrase that Jeff likes to add with the sanctuary that I cringe a little each time he says it.

@BussinandDiscussin

5 ай бұрын

He wanted to make another meme phrase I think, Survivor's thing is kind of saying the same stuff over and over.

@Nate9-9

4 ай бұрын

@@BussinandDiscussin it is the only phrase that has bothered me lately

The Sanctuary sounds like the farm everyone sends their dogs/cats to live on 😂

Where can I find the interview with Russell Hantz?

This is a vibe I can get behind

One thing that’s starting to annoy me is the pre-merge tribe names always being 4 letters, especially since many of them has the same syllables as past seasons. It just makes the tribe names more forgettable.

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

This. If I see another Manu tribe I'm gonna lose it.

@KatLuff

4 ай бұрын

Someone in another comment was talking about how the winner almost always comes from whichever of the three tribes dominated the pre-merge, and started naming the tribes... and I realized I could not tell you a single thing about any of them. Not who was on them, not even which season they were in. They're all exactly the same. Nowadays when watching a season, I remember the three tribes and who is on them based on their colours and rarely even know the names. They're just Red, Blue, an Yellow or whatever colours they end up being.

I suspect the reason they stopped changing locations is partly to save money, but also obviously because they can just store all of the big challenge hardware instead of having to transport it around. However I think the main reason is that the biggest appeal of the show is the interaction between the cast members. Whether they have drama in Africa, Samoa or Fiji is irrelevant. We just want to see the drama.

@Keepsake66

5 ай бұрын

I agree that the location is less of a big deal than people make it out to be. Fiji is beautiful and cheaper so i say keep it there. But please cast a wider dynamic of people. The "villains" of every season for a while now have not felt that evil. Just as much as I want to root for someone, I want to loathe someone too. I feel like I've had to manufacture my loathing or allow the edit to push me towards who to hate. And neither of those feel nearly as satisfying. Their casting process has got to reveal more egotistical jerks than who we get to see. It's possible they are being extra cautious ever since the Dan Spilo incident from 39. And it's those borderline sociopathic egotists that have the potential to do something that slimy, so they shy away from them.

I hate it when they decide only a few people are interesting and the rest of the cast turns invisible. Samoa was the Russell show, and I swear I didn't recognize half the people on the jury. Russell, Rob... you know who I mean. I will never not hate the Final 4 firemaking. Freaking Ben.

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

One thing I've always hated since its inception was the rock draw. I am of the opinion that if the vote is between 2 people, who is eliminated should remain between those 2 people. Australian Outback and Africa had prior votes, that worked (except at Samburu's first tribal council for obvious reasons). And the stupidest part is if the tie occurs at the final 4, it goes to firemaking as seen in Panama, Cook Islands and Australian Survivor: 2017 (and these are just the ones I'm aware of). So, why not apply the firemaking on the other circumstances?

@freddytang2128

5 ай бұрын

Australian survivor took this to another extreme. Aussie survivor often purple some players so hard, you only know they exist when they’re about to be voted out that episode

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

@@freddytang2128 For example?

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

Sam Shoers

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Which season? There have been a few Sam's.

BRING BACK FINAL 2's

I hate the group final tribal.. I always looked forward to grudges and personal beefs.. being hashed out or stoked on an individual level. That's how we got iconic moments like snakes and rats.. and corrine and sugar.. or Natalie being just maybe the most deserving of them all.

@martonyomchale342

5 ай бұрын

The group final didn't change that. If you want to cuss out one or all of the finalist at the end you most certainly can. The group final took away those pre-hashed jury questions that tended to favor certain finalist over another. And some the question are nonsensical like Michelle asking Hannah why she thinks should win. You state why you should in the opening statements like Hannah already did. The Jury questions should be asking specific questions to your game.

@youngsiimba5482

5 ай бұрын

@martonyomchale342 I just don't favor the format.. I appreciated each jury being able to ask their own question or make a statement regardless of if it falls into "outwit outplay outlast" And sometimes the edit doesn't allow us to hear from every juror.. im guessing because it wasn't relevant enough to make the cut. I personally just don't like this format.

What is the final clip from? Can we watch that somewhere?

I agree with literally every part of this but especially the challenges... I'd give my left foot for a challenge that isn't a duration/balance challenge or an obstacle/relay race ending with a puzzle. The fact that EVERY challenge now ends with a puzzle is so frustrating. The whole idea of having a tribe/person dominate the majority of the challenge and then flop on the puzzle was interesting the first two or three times that it happened. Now it just makes the entire challenge leading up to the puzzle completely pointless because we know that getting to the puzzle first often doesn't mean anything.

How many times have they done table puzzles? The one that gives busted his head open on when he fainted

Haven’t started the video just but I know this will be a fun one

What a fascinating topic. You know what I hate about Survivor? How fans seem to believe that every single change that was a result of CBS cutting the budget is something that Probst did on purpose to annoy the hardcore fans. That man could walk on water and fans would complain that he couldn't swim. I was wondering if you could do a similar video about AU? There's this weird phenomenon going on where the fans who complain about U.S. have convinced themselves that AU is a flawless product and they're willing to handwave away anything bad even if it's the same thing they'd complain about in the U.S. The non-elimination episodes, the gamebreaking twists that let people back into the game or limits who can vote, the insanely uneven edit where they'll ignore winners and finalists completely so they can give fan favorites the bulk of the confessionals, the purely physical challenges that dominate the pre-merge, how they give away idols like candy, etc. The other interesting thing about the uneven editing of men versus women is also how fans tend to perceive them playing the game and whether or not that's a chicken and the egg scenario. So often viewers (men and women) will be hyper critical of women who play confident, cutthroat games while lauding the men who do the same. Even the current season of AU is a great example with how so many fans vilify Kirby but praise Feras despite their approaches to the game being quite similar.

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

5 ай бұрын

Yeah AU survivor has the literal worst twists in the franchise even if I like the finished project quite a bit. Ziggy’s super idol was broken , the surprise finale changes screwed over Shay and Matt in BvW and HvV Purgatory is literal bottom of the barrel, 4 hours to eliminate 1 player. The mutiny twist which undermines most of what happens at tribal council And oh god the editing, Sam(CvC) was the first player to not get a confessional, she was voted off 7th, David in HvV makes the merge and I literally know half the pre mergers better than him

@BussinandDiscussin

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for speaking out on the ballwashing of AU its ridiculous at times.

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

Responding to specific things, players not voting should be restricted to advantages from other players, not production twists and even those should be few and far between. Also, the twists need to be less predictable, as it currently stands, I can see a twist coming from 2 ad breaks away. As for people being allowed back into the game, also should be kept few and far between. Pearl Islands is an example of bringing players back that works, Redemption Island is another (not Edge of Extinction). I have noticed challenges lean towards physical whereas they used to be more puzzle focused. Is it overcorrection? Maybe. However, I'm going to need some context for idols being given like candy, could you give some examples? Personally, I'm not critical of female players, so long as they are competent players. For example, I was impressed with how Liz used her idol to force George's hand and save Flick the night was Stevie was voted out. While Liz may have been acting under a false premise, her execution of skill was impeccable. Moana's blindside of Locky and Zack, likewise. On the flipside, I'm more than happy to criticise male players when they make stupid decisions. For example, when Russell flashed his idol to the entire tribe, I immediately called a maximum of 2 tribal councils before he was gone. Another example is Baden; day 1, 12 contenders had 1 goal: to have a contender win and level the score from the previous season, day 49, Baden had the power to guarantee that outcome. Feras vs Kirby is a rivalry that I am here for regardless of who ultimately comes out on top. My prediction is if Feras can unite with the Middle Aged Mafia (which is looking likely, given what happened at the feast), Kirby is in trouble. My only complaint thus far is Feras had ample warning about Garrick being under fire and still didn't play his idol.

Mike drunk, looking for the idol was hilarious.

Shocked you didn't say the live reunion going away. Only seeing the jurors and final 3 sucks. It's also not enough time for the winners and losers to process what's been happening

I too miss the changing of locations, as well as the tad bit of different cultures that was often included. The challenges feel so watered down too, however I figured it was to budget and maybe insurance for injuries. I know it won't happen next season, but I loved the 90 min. shows. For their 50th season, I would love to see the show go back to its roots, in Borneo.

Did anybody else notice the parts of the video being called WWE wrestlers? and the cool thing is, is that they match the topic being discussed. (Shelton Benjamin - didn’t reach full potential = seasons not reaching full potential), (Hulk Hogan - overused = challenges being overused and recycled),(Stone Cold - being a man = men being shown more) and (Brock Lesnar - misleading nice guy[look at his scandal now] = a seasons edit not telling the full truth) Hopefully I got this right.

Final 4 Firemaking will always be a negative for me, regardless. Even if you like the Final 3 over the Final 2, the last elimination before the Final Tribal is the most important vote in the game for the players. To have that not even be a vote takes away so much potential drama. I do prefer Final 2 though, since you can numerically still have a vote off at 4 and 3, but not with 2.

@fate8718

4 ай бұрын

Base firemaking sucks mostly because if you win immunity you lowkey have to go into fire because its used against you if you dont And then while Im fine with that as a tiebreaker at 4(and tbf Spencer prolly wins Cagayan if its a final 3 with firemaking at 4 like modern era) it should be a vote into final 3 where the winner just says who they are voting out Gives final immunity weight over a burden

I feel the advantages have gotten out of hand. Like you mentioned lost votes, and just all the different things that can change the game. I wouldnt be opposed to say 1 kind of advantage per season, with producers changing it each season, but notice I said 1 kind of advantage, not 5-10 like it seems like there are anymore. It would be cool to remove idols for the advantage too, just imagine the cast on an island trying to figure out what the advantage is for the season

What I would love is if the fire making challenge was at finale 3 making it a finale 2 again.

the other survivor shoe just dropped!! Honestly, really appreciate you bringing up how shady survivor can be towards the female players. It's totally ridiculous that Erika barely got any screentime despite Winning her season!!!

A couple changes would make things better. Either switch places (prolly won't happen) or have themes. Plus the live reunion. I can deal with the rest. I mean I deal with it now but I think it would be so much better showing the challenges that are similar but changed with he different themes. I think it would change a lot.

Not sure why but I hate that they don’t do the live reading anymore for the winner.

I miss normal people. Stop casting super achievers and super fans. Just people who are plumbers who want to win a million. I think CBS reality TV casting has gotten a little too "people want to see Mensa astronaut entrepreneurs who have watched Survivor 20 years" they need to go back into Healers, Heroes, Hustlers.

So many good insights. I'm currently re-watching all of the Old School seasons. It's such a different game in those older seasons -- I like them better. The loss of the different locations I think is a bigger loss than the loss of the theme element, but I also really liked the different themes. Fiji is beautiful, but as you said, it's boring at this point. And I do think the budget cuts show in the New Era. It's just cheaper, and I think it will lead to less people watching. I also miss the big finale/results show. Watching those early 2000s seasons, the big finale shows were so fun, with the camera cutting to the watch parties and so on. As for the casting ... it's declined in the New Era. I have watched every season on Survivor, but I cannot tell you the names of the season 41 and beyond winners, they are so unremarkable.

I also noticed the edit has become so predictable, you can predict what’s going to happen based on reverse psychology. Like right after immunity challenge, if they show confessional of someone saying “this person is going home for sure”, you can bet that person isn’t the one going. It’s almost always a decoy confession

1. The purple flowers!@ No, seriously, during confessionals, if you look in the background, you can often see the same purple flowers, season after season. Not only does this mean they're obviously STILL in Fiji, but they're also ON THE SAME ISLANDS in Fiji. 2. Are you kidding/ The seasons GALLOP. Especially the first time they did it, it was like Jeff said to all of us, "I am grabbing you by the neck and sprinting to the finish with you, whether you like it or not." I think this is my least-favourite change. 3. Do you remember a few seasons ago when they were practically ALL balance-oriented challenges? For God's sake, if they had me in that room, I'd be inventing some creative stuff. You know it's bad when the fans can do better. Albeit I've never missed an episode, so superfan am I, but still. 4. Yeah, the end-game kind of sucks with all the twists. Yeah, I said it. They're going for style, not substance, and I hate that. I KNOW it's all about money, but you don't have to scream it at us. 5. Who's the woman with the most screen time ever, please? I'm willing to bet it's Parv or Sandra. For the guy, though, it IS either Coach or Russell, and I can say that without any doubt. Probably Russ, since he lasted longer in any given season, minus South Pacific, obviously. But the fact that I can't name the woman off the top of my head speaks to your point, and it's annoying, since I'm a chick. 6. Now, the editing is supposed to tell a story, of course, ut when it comes to the game getting into the real-life aspect, like, for example, whether the people are actually OKAY, or like, for another example, what ACTUALLY happened with Pervy Dan who ruined the entire show, not just series, THAT can be problematic. As a lighter example, Colton faking his appendix problem. Did he just want out and medical let him go gracefully, or was he actually sick? Because the second time he played and quit, Jeff called his FIRST time a quit, too, unless Jeff was just being super salty. That's one thing you kind of can't hide with an edit: Jeff does not like quitters in this game.

@reubenmanzo2054

5 ай бұрын

1. I never noticed the flowers. In fairness, though, I am colourblind. 2. A reduced number of days will do that. That's a change that should never have been made. 3. Which season was that? I will admit, I'm unfamiliar with almost everything since Winners at War. 4. The more the producers throw random twists at the players, the more the eventual winner will be... random. If I were playing, I wouldn't want my game to be all about a dice roll. 5. The woman with the most screen time (I think) is Parvati. The man is definitely Russell. Unless you want to extend beyond the US, then George Mladenov becomes a possible contender. 6. I, too, would like to know what happened with the situation around Dan, but unfortunately, all we have to go on are some conveniently timed flashbacks (no way to verify *when* those scenes took place) and Kellee's word. As much as in the reunion, Jeff said "your word should've been enough", when it comes to an accusation that serious, no one's word should ever be enough. Slander and defamation exist for a reason.

@MaximilliansHammer

12 күн бұрын

On Point 6 - Colton actually was medically evacuated, and Jeff did offer a sort of half-assed apology for saying he quit on One World. Colton was just super-unlikeable, and his quit on BvW was ridiculously pathetic and Jeff was really irritated. As for the Dan stuff, it actually all seemed pretty straightforward, it was just handled badly at every point by production, as they tried to deal with the situation without influencing the game, despite the controversial events bleeding over into gameplay in an ugly way.

Why are people counting ad breaks in the episode runtime? Is the marketing just that good?

You're 100% right on the most recent seasons blending together - when I say which of the more recent seasons I like I talk about the players because "Survivor 4X" is not at all memorable.

Two things I don't like: super petty people in the final jury. Single challenge weeks.

I think they need to do a second chances every five seasons, and I would love to see a runner-up season where all of the runner-up battle. I think that would be good.

Jeff Probst has said in an interview that he hopes they never leave Fiji, so we are probably stuck with Fiji which sucks because the show use to highlight local cultures, religions, and history and now it's just . . . the same Fiji beaches every season, with no sort of local/native culture integrated or even talked about.

Every new contestant has the same exact few personalities, plus no villains

Like an old man yelling at a cloud. Best line of this video 😂

Here's an interesting idea to shake up individual immunity challenges; the loser (or first one out) gets one vote automatically at the next tribal council.

@9thebigcool

5 ай бұрын

Partial immunity would be interesting as players would have to weigh voting for one person who can null a vote against them vs someone who is an easier target.

@lerdog

5 ай бұрын

To take even MORE away from the votes is def not the solution

@handsoaphandsoap

5 ай бұрын

That just advantages physical players and disadvantages physically weaker players, and also dumbs down the strategy. Early merge votes would just land on whoever has that extra vote on them which would be boring to watch. The problem with the challenges is not how they relate to the overarching game of Survivor, it’s that they are not interesting to watch. Make them more varied and more visually striking and they’d be fine. I’d say endurance comps are usually pretty good television since there’s a knockout aspect to it which creates tension and you can theorize about how long you could hang in there but something like the challenge Drew won in 45 with the rope and the word puzzle at the end was a complete bathroom-break challenge. There’s not really anything exciting about watching a bunch of people navigate a maze while attached to a rope and then have to stack some blocks together, especially since the people in the lead early tend to win those types of challenges anyway. The puzzle is also not something the audience can play along with either, especially since they show you the solution before they run the challenge. That’s the success of trivia shows, the audience at home can participate by making their own guess so they stay engaged even if they don’t care about the outcome of the competition. In the 45 example, our minds drift elsewhere cause we’re just watching people stack blocks and our brains are otherwise not being stimulated.

It's completely false to act like the only option besides Survivor 41, Survivor 42, etc. is to manufacture two or three groups from the cast and create an Us vs. Them theme. They could name seasons after a major twist (such as they have in the past with Exile Island, Redemption Island, Ghost Island, Edge of Extinction, etc.). They could use other local geographic terms for Fiji/the specific islands they are filming (such as they did with Mamanuca Islands). The reason the current naming system sucks is that it's hard to keep track of them in your head after they are over. Just having a name of any kind helps, regardless of whether it's a "theme." Survivor 41 could have been called 'A New Era.' Survivor 42 could have been called 'Shipwreck Island' or whatever they wanted to call the island with the ship wheels and risk/no risk options. It shouldn't be that hard.

I disagree with the budget concerns. I suspect the budget has not been cut much but the money allocated is increasingly going toward paying salaries of people who come up with these terrible ideas and less and less toward actually making a good product. You cannot tell me that Australian Survivor, which of late has been unquestioningly better than the US version, has anywhere near the budget of the US version and yet comes up with these absolutely fantastic challenges. Even if the budget has been cut significantly, AU still demonstrates how good a product this could be. You don't need a huge budget to have variety or a good cast. I'm not even sure a bigger budget would equal a better product when the fundamentals of what production wants are just not that interesting.

The things I don't like about the New Era of Survivor is that there's no more emphasis on camp life like you see in the earlier seasons and the superfan casting.

I like the final 2, too. I would love it if they mixed it up with final 2s and final 3s. I wouldn't want to get rid of final 3 altogether. Just mix it up. I would love to see a couple of new era players navigate votes at final 4 and final 3. I think if they don't do this, it is a missed opportunity.

Lol waiting to start the jury at the final 7 would make only 5 members

I have been watching a lot of Taskmaster and it had made me want a funner/more diverse type of challenges. Also as far as i know, Taskmaster has not redone a task in 16 seasons. Also aslo, Jeff has stated that the crew wants to make the show easier to produce why even bother with Fiji, why not just shoot on a set in Hollywood.

My biggest gripe is there are a lot less of relatable characters now a days... every player has some sort of sob story or something, and I feel like they sometimes shoe horn that story into whats going on in survivor. Sometimes it flows naturally and adds to whats going on but sometimes I'm just thinking "this is a stretch and it adds no value". Also there are really no villains anymore, everyone is a hero... would be nice to throw in a villain or two each season. Aside from that it would be nice to see a change in scenery, even just different islands in fiji or something. Feel like with the scenery the same the least they could do is switch up the theme to make it different. Also miss the live reunion, the new finale just doesnt hit the same.

One thing they should never bring back is the loved one visits.

@vanessasparks9637

2 ай бұрын

Agree, boring.

Reducing to 26 days absolutely impacts the game. I miss seeing the final players in that end-stage of exhaustion that you can only get after 35 or 36 days. With regard to the final point, I have a friend who was on a reality TV show, and she speaks of several instances where the "conversations" seen by viewers were actually bits of completely separate conversations that had been spliced together. She says that what actually happens on the shows is absolutely real, but the editing tells many, many lies.

They need to stop removing votes &nd go back to 2 tribes w/ a swap. The Challenges can be easily fixed by using more of the old school rolodex of Survivor challenges

I miss the voting confessionals, i want to hear what people say when they vote

Both Big Brother and Survivor feel like they're mellowing out and blending together. It feels like the producers and challenge coordinators have gotten complacent, and it really shows. When people argue that the number of challenges that can be done new for the first time is lower, I point to Big Brother Canada and Survivor Australia. The US productions feel stale, which will only drive fans away and hurt CBS in the long run.

Very much agree about the challenges being the same! Australian Survivor has a lot more new and unique challenges. Some on US Survivor!

1. Editing not telling us the story. I shouldn't need to listen to interviews to understand why Xander gets zero votes and Erica wins in a landslide. 2. Casting superfans- This has bombed big time. People thought it would prevent quitters. It didn't. Superfans can get annoying and I feel it's part of the reason blowouts are happening. People have more of a shared mentality in values of people they think should win. People hate on recruits, but many of them were tv gold and some were actually really good players. 3. Jury sizes- Should be 7 and everyone should have had a little bit of time to know the jurors. Not just a day or two. 4. 26 days- I think this plays a big reason in blowouts as well. An extra 2 weeks of being tired and hungry makes you more reliant on others. People take votes more personally, which makes better tv. 5. Final 4 fire- Reduces importance of social game and reduces stakes of the final immunity challenge because person on the chopping block now has another chance to make it to the end. 6. 3 tribes- I like 3 tribes but mix it up. More people on 1 tribe leads to more opportunities for stories. Also people get to know each other better and can make jury votes a little more personal. 7. Final 3- At least mix it up with a final 2. The 3rd person rarely gets votes and with large jurys they play even less of a factor. 8. Poor handling of advantages and twists- They've gotten better as of late, but so many advantages and twists have been dumb. The hourglass was awful. Players getting eliminated by default or making it to the end by just finding an idol over and over. 9. Lack of locations and themes- Seasons used to be unique in some form or another. Now they're just numbering seasons. If they're not going to change locations, they should be adding new themes to have the seasons stand out from each other. 10. Wokeness- Better recently, but it seems like Jeff and production are baiting players into discussing social topics was annoying since many times it wasn't really playing a factor into the game. I'd rather that airtime go towards entertainment or gameplay, so we understand the season better. Seriously, so much cringe. I think there a bigger things to worry about than if Propst refers to everyone as "guys".

Can we do something other than "very heavy puzzle pieces?"

It breaks my heart to say it… but survivor just does not do it for me anymore. It’s a shell of what it formerly was.

I know it’s not quite the same, but Australian Survivor fixes almost all of these problems.

@thr3LoadR

5 ай бұрын

I wish there was a way for us Americans to see AU Survivor without having to use a VPN. I'm really interested in seeing the differences.

@mentaldentalgaming

5 ай бұрын

@@thr3LoadR Same. I got a free VPN with Chrome and I highly recommend going for it. Honestly, Titans vs. Rebels has been the best season of Survivor I think I've ever watched, and that includes all 45 US Survivor seasons.

The stuff I hate: - Too many advantages - 3 tribes of 6 people I really like most of the cast of the new era, I just hate the shorter format and all the advantages. I hate to be the boomer here, but the old school format was better.

Budget cuts are ridiculous!! They went from giving away a car or two to a single rotisserie chicken! A PB& J? Get real!!

Literally called this last video. LOL

They need 4 tribes of 6..... On Day 2, there is individual immunity for each tribe, and 1 person gets eliminated per tribe. On Day 4, they split into 2 tribes of 10. Each episode from here you have individual immunity, per tribe, and eliminate 1 person per tribe. When you get get 14 people remaining, 1 tribe gets immunity, 1 person goes home from the other tribe, and then you merge.

The amount of "pick me's" in the modern era casting is a serious problem 46 doesn't premiere for another week and just from the cast profiles i already know I'm not gonna like over half of them

I think the main reason for the disparity between men and women in survivor is the fact that this show takes place on a beach. The casting department feels it necessary to have attractive women cast. If you think about some of the most successful women in survivor history they are women who don't necessarily look great in a bikini. But those women are in the minority in being cast. So when it comes to women they are casting beautiful women. When it comes to men they are casting interesting men. Primarily. So of course you have the men getting more screen time winning more, finding more idols, because they are casting men who are more likely to achieve these things. When you cast a pretty face and a nice body you're much less likely to get an interesting character or a good player.

I appreciate producers trying to create new twists to see what works. I don’t mind some dumb twists like medallion of power if they don’t impact the game anyways. But I don’t know how edge of extinction or hourglass got approved by production. Some recent twists are so poorly thought out, they arguably ruined entire seasons

When listening to a lot of the confessionals from 41- now, it does sound like a lot of the contants hired the same reality tv coach. IMO a lot of the talking styles just sound the same. Same style of conveying a confession and talking on tribel.

Oh my ummmmmmm Peridiam face reveal to me in the outro and... I am looking respectfully.... hot, and into survivor? Heyyyyyyyyyy

The forced 'good feels' moments. We get a few genuine ones, Noel in particular didn't feel staged(Unles everyone was sandbagging to let her catch up) but she genuinely was having a hard time it was getting really bad, but she percevered and one shot the sand bag toss. But when Jeff has to stop everything and go "And this is what Survivor is really all about" and explain it to us dumb-dumb audience members who can't see it apparently. Just feels pretentious and thatthey are trying to overly nice. Infact the entire show is overly nice these days. Even the villains are just goober villains, like Shan. She was a villain but she was a total goober while being cuthroat. I realize it's partly because they aren't recruiting anymore and grabbing randoms, and it's all fans. These people understand the game and that gives instant connections for everyone which keepsthem from being as ruthless, also the awareness that they are infact on tv makes them clam up and be nicer than normal. Can't blame them, season 39 was an icky season that might have put them in a very bad place in the eyes of execs, especially when they lost sponsors. Overall feels like a much more curated game, from blatent messaging, weakly doing segments on players with photo reels and stuff. Rules and advantages dictating the game too hard. Just feels like the players have less control than ever unless you get a blessed advantage.

Leave Fiji, go back to 39 days, stop with the advantages, 2 tribes, tribe swap, no more f4 firemaking, stop swapping post merge, bring back themes, bring back rewards, bring back returnees, cast more villains models and athletes, recruit people (it’s important to not have all super fans), keep the intro, bring back the auction, bring back the rites of passage, and bring back the live reunion.

@tommymcphee3777

5 ай бұрын

And oh my god stop taking away players votes

@dancegregorydance6933

5 ай бұрын

Tommy oh I totally forgot about this but it really annoys me. I think last season at least one player had lost their vote for every tribal.

@aaronhale5217

5 ай бұрын

@@dancegregorydance6933 yeah, I think when Emily was idolled out was the first tribal council everyone voted at if you don't count Austin getting his vote back at the Brando tribal council through the Goodwill advantage. That in itself, they had to implement an advantage to restore votes should be worrying

@aaronhale5217

5 ай бұрын

this

@juliaelize3164

5 ай бұрын

repost

I think going from 39 to 26 days have drastically changed the game. Players have less time to build relationships and feuds. People are less connected. That's why they are all Koombaja getting voted out, and that is why they had to add the dreaded sad history clips. They have to force us to feel something for these players. 3 tribes of 6 adds to this problem. There just isn't enough players to really blind side and change a vote. Secondly they have become so complacent and lazy with the challenges. To the point where the puzzles were hacked and players printed them out and practiced at home. And don't give me the "budget" speech as excuse. On Survivor AU they had a challenge where the tied a player to 2 trophies on 2 logs and you had to get the other players trophies off before they got yours. That challenge was created for under $50 with multiple different solutions and strategies.

Having 3 Tribes nowadays, 4 Tribe changes, 12 people at merge, first 2 immunity challenges make several people safe from the vote, and having the narrators paint their ideal favorite players for them and for us the viewers, is what kinda makes me not like the newer seasons. Not every challenge and vote needs an advantage played or a scripted game-changing twist.