THG Podcast: Tin Cans: Destroyers and the First Submarines Sunk by the US in Both World Wars

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On today’s episodes we are talking about two stories of US navy destroyers. The first story is about the USS Fanning, which took part in the sinking of the first german submarine sunk by American ships during WWI. Then the history guy skips ahead a few decade to the USS Roper, which in April of 1942 engaged a submarine off the coast of Virginia - the sinking of U-85 would be the first german submarine sunk by US forces in WWII.
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  • @davidvik1451
    @davidvik14512 жыл бұрын

    Being a Plank Owner of the USS Fanning DE-1076 commissioned in 1971, we were all made aware of who Nathanial Fanning was, and the history of the other two ships that bore the name. Thanks for keeping history alive that needs to be remembered. David Vik BT2

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor602 жыл бұрын

    As a Tin Can Sailor; USS Semmes DDG 18 and USS Kinkaid DD 965, thank you. OS1(SW/AW) USN Retired.

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Sir, for your service from an aging kid from a RA soldier, Semper Fortis

  • @paulrugg1629
    @paulrugg16292 жыл бұрын

    My first pod w/ the history guy, so glad I found it.

  • @banditeastlick2471

    @banditeastlick2471

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well your in luck, he is the best and he has a very long list to watch

  • @briannave7326

    @briannave7326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@banditeastlick2471 Yes, the past episodes are worth watching.

  • @yeahitskimmel

    @yeahitskimmel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a heads up if you're binging em, KZread is two new episodes behind his website

  • @johnstevenson9956
    @johnstevenson99562 жыл бұрын

    Your insights on the history are as interesting as the history itself!

  • @anoldmannameddave7455
    @anoldmannameddave74552 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. So much history goes untold. I’d still like to see a story about the 17th Airborne Division in WW II. My Uncle Eugene Varner, won a Silver Star medal with them in Germany, March of 1945. Seems the 82nd and 101st get much fanfare, but little is told about the 17th. They contributed much to the effort, and were 1st to actually jump into Germany. Uncle Gene also fought with them at the Battle of the Bulge. He had 2 Purple Hearts as well, one at the Bulge, and one previously with the 82nd. He was a Hero!

  • @218philip
    @218philip2 жыл бұрын

    My father spent 3 yr’s in the pacific, some of the worst battles. His ship the USS Harry Bauer, his ship was hit many times. One time it limped in for repairs and they found an unexploded 500 lb bomb in the hull near the fuel bunker. He never spoke of his experience in the war, the little we know came from official records. Obviously his nine children are grateful, he died when he was only 49, his oldest was 19. My mother was a saint.

  • @navret1707
    @navret17072 жыл бұрын

    My father was a fire control officer on a tin can in the North Atlantic. He said the can was so slow that the fan tail was lifted out of the water whenever they dropped a depth charge. He also said he thought they should of received sub pay due to very heavy seas.

  • @sterfry8502
    @sterfry85022 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Yes! Yes! Makes my day when I get a THG pod cast to listen to while I work!

  • @MrWhatsHisFace87
    @MrWhatsHisFace872 жыл бұрын

    Another great episode. Thank you. Astonished by the number of people in the comments who complain about podcasts. Do you truly cling that closely to the pictures in THG's visual episodes? Do you really lack the imagination to visualize things in your own mind? Are we keeping you from getting back to reading your picture books? (I could bring you a snack and juice box)

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love these podcasts, it gives a peek into the past.

  • @TomKeown
    @TomKeown2 жыл бұрын

    My favorite THG episodes are the ones involving ships and naval combat. And cameos of the cats, too! My dad was on a Butler-class Destroyer Escort (DE) in 1955, and by this time the role of the DE was to protect the carrier at the center of the battle group. Primarily an ASW platform, the DE's job was to find and prosecute enemy submarines, but it would also lay smoke to screen the carrier from submarines, and if all else failed, it was to protect the carrier by taking the torpedo hit. The term "tin can" was not just because these ships were thinly armored, but also because the men on board were expendable and would go to the bottom in their ships, packed like meat in a tin can.

  • @exceptionalhistory1955
    @exceptionalhistory19552 жыл бұрын

    I like this format. I can do things while I listen.

  • @ropeburnsrussell
    @ropeburnsrussell2 жыл бұрын

    Love the audio only, I can listen and work at the same time.

  • @richardmourdock2719
    @richardmourdock27192 жыл бұрын

    Both of my parents were WWII veterans, both now at rest in the Military Cemetery of North Georgia. Whenever I ponder "war at sea" I wonder if I would have ever, ever had the courage of my then 18-21-year-old father aboard an LST (which I learned from Dad meant either "Long Slow Target" or "lousy stinking tub") in the SW Pacific. Can't imagine the courage required to do one's duty when fighting fires on board and manning guns to ward off Kamikaze's in the battle of The Coral Sea. But even as I ponder if I'd had that courage, I have no doubt I would NEVER have had the stuff to last aboard a submarine under attack. Regardless of nationality, the bravest of the brave, IMHO.

  • @jnstonbely5215

    @jnstonbely5215

    2 жыл бұрын

    You may be Very Proud of your Dad and Mom for serving their Country , at a critical time in our history when she needed them . They did not delay or try to escape serving . We Salute them and we Honor their memory as they were part of our Greatest Generation 🇺🇸 May they R.I.P. 🌹🌹

  • @richardmourdock2719

    @richardmourdock2719

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jnstonbely5215 Thank you. Truly appreciated.

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    2 жыл бұрын

    As they say, sometimes you didn't know you had it until you needed it.

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick96472 жыл бұрын

    To all surviving Tin can sailors, I would like to thank you from an aging military kid whose dad was in the Army fighting in WW2, just as much as you were as they say Semper Fortis and Semper Fi dad passed in 2002

  • @tonyperez4791
    @tonyperez47912 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video. It made house chores more enjoyable today. Hope you and your loved ones have a great /safe holiday season ! Cheers, Tony

  • @yeahitskimmel
    @yeahitskimmel2 жыл бұрын

    Don't wanna blow anyone's mind but just realized if you go to THGs site, there's two more episodes not out on KZread yet. You're welcome

  • @escuelaviejafarms
    @escuelaviejafarms Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully there is a cool dude like you about 100 years from now that researches and reports about the battle of Sadr City.

  • @TheCarnivalguy
    @TheCarnivalguy2 жыл бұрын

    One of my cousins, USNA Class of '32, was the first CDR of the USS Porter DD-800, Fletcher class, from June 1944 until Nov 1945. Thank you for remembering these "tin can" sailors.

  • @joecombs7468
    @joecombs74684 ай бұрын

    I always salute fellow submariners no matter what navy they served in. We used to say, "All of use come back or none of us come back." That's the way it is on submarines, but every once in a while a few actually survive. And if they get back home the navy sticks them on another sub (usually a sister ship) and sends them right back out again.

  • @laynelair7537
    @laynelair75372 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy your program! Merry Christmas! 🤓✌

  • @alanmoffat4454
    @alanmoffat44542 жыл бұрын

    YET TWO MORE GREAT STORYS VERY WELL TOLD THANK YOUS BOTH .

  • @paulswickard7488
    @paulswickard74882 жыл бұрын

    In the book " The Cruel Sea " Nicholas Monserant wrote about a Flower class Corvette depth charging a sonar contact that turned out to be the merchant ship sunk by the U-boat. The surviving crew were crushed by the blast. Horrific.

  • @hmmmiseeisee
    @hmmmiseeisee2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @edwardparkhurst9804
    @edwardparkhurst98042 жыл бұрын

    Hello Josh, you did a remarkable job with the video in your father's footsteps. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ianrsigel
    @ianrsigel2 жыл бұрын

    When he responded regarding the special, one on one tactical human interaction between the two opposing captains that makes this a compelling story... I immediately thought of the Robert Michum movie, The enemy below.

  • @fredcloud9668
    @fredcloud96682 жыл бұрын

    I like podcasts.

  • @banditeastlick2471
    @banditeastlick24712 жыл бұрын

    Best way to honor our veterans is to remember how it was done and who was sacrificed

  • @timsheridan3987
    @timsheridan39872 жыл бұрын

    Yet another good one. If you haven't read it yet on this topic tin can sailors is a great historical book

  • @floydbright9169
    @floydbright91692 жыл бұрын

    As a retired Destroyerman I appreciate any story you come up with about Destroyers. You do make one comment that I have a different take on. In WW2 certainly the Battle of the Atlantic was as critical as you stated. However there was one previous battle that was more decisive than that. In 1940 Germany set out to eliminate the RAF as an effective force in order to clear the way for an amphibious invasion of the island of Great Britain. As you already have assumed I am speaking of the Battle of Britain. It is my contention that if Great Britain had lost that battle and the RAF had been eliminated as an effective force, that GB would likely have lost the invasion and there would not have been a Battle of the Atlantic. One side comment, in todays Navg the Fanning incident would never have happened. No OOD on the bridge would take the word at that reliance of an enlisted man to put the ship into that position. He or she would have to get permission of the CO and both would interrogate the enlisted man to gain his assurance that he did indeed see a periscope. Most mikely when I was standing JOOD in the early 70's the reasponse wold have been similar but the ship would have been on a course to intercept while the interrogation was happening.

  • @lescrooge
    @lescrooge2 жыл бұрын

    you sir,,, are a legend

  • @robertgotschall1246
    @robertgotschall12462 жыл бұрын

    I rode a Knox class frigate for 3 years in the early 70s. We drilled at fighting off patrol boats and shooting down missils, but we spent all the time looking for Russian submarines. We never sank any. Even with better sonar and radar, things hadn’t changed that much. Besides, we really weren’t allowed to sink them, we technically weren’t at war with Russia, yet.

  • @banditeastlick2471
    @banditeastlick24712 жыл бұрын

    You should do the history of the boogeyman, banshee, wild man, Forest people, Rock ape, yetti, Grassman, Yeti, skunk ape and the Abominable Snowman. There's names like Sabai and other native American names. It is interesting and prevalent to discovering how people are.

  • @kiera_kayaks7521
    @kiera_kayaks75212 жыл бұрын

    Ah, you were a park ranger? Now you are definitely my favorite!

  • @banditeastlick2471
    @banditeastlick24712 жыл бұрын

    I watched a channel that had scuba divers that located a lost submarine. Think it was lost off the coast of Australia.

  • @COACHWARBLE
    @COACHWARBLE2 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on the USS TWIGGS. Nobody has ever spoken about it and I hope you can honor the fallen men including my uncle Vincent Grella.

  • @shelbybrown8312
    @shelbybrown83122 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Chicago heights Illinois

  • @fenderstratguy
    @fenderstratguy2 жыл бұрын

    MESSAGE FOR THE HISTORY GUY: What about a story about Ben Hogan's remarkable comeback after a devastating car accident? It's eerily parallel to Tiger Woods' horrible crash and comeback that is going on in real time

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer the video

  • @k.moyers4746
    @k.moyers4746 Жыл бұрын

    So many advert interruptions, that I had to give up on following the story.

  • @ambiguousscreenname
    @ambiguousscreenname2 жыл бұрын

    Great content, but please do something about the volume difference between the two of you. Gotta crank up the volume to hear THG, but then the son is way too loud.

  • @tomfrazier1103
    @tomfrazier11032 жыл бұрын

    The Soviets did not often report war actions accurately in the 2d War. Americans encountered Japanese submarines as the Pacific War commenced 7.XII.41, am.

  • @ronaldpiper4812
    @ronaldpiper4812 Жыл бұрын

    Laxton Gail Newman. Bet his story and the ship named for him be special to learn more. Maybe

  • @robertkoons1154
    @robertkoons11542 жыл бұрын

    You missed first submarine sunk by a destroyer in Wwii Uss Ward sank Japanese midget outside Pearl Harbor 1 hour and 45 min before the start of the air attack. It was reported to base commander and ignored. Two or 3 battleships might not have been sunk all ships in harbor were ordered to general quarters per standard naval procedure.

  • @73Trident

    @73Trident

    2 жыл бұрын

    Technically the Japanese midget sub was sunk before the actual declaration of war. So THG is right technically. I know this is apples and oranges, But After listening to the story, they clearly said German submarine.

  • @robertkoons1154

    @robertkoons1154

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@73Trident Technically the Pearl Harbor, Wake Island and Phillipine attacks occurred before the declaration of war too. The sinking of the Reuben James took place a month before the German declaration of war. None of the 5 Japanese midget subs survived the attack on Pearl Harbor survived past Dec 7.

  • @johnwilliamson2276
    @johnwilliamson22762 жыл бұрын

    Why have you suspended video on your channel? That’s one of the draws to it. Now it’s like listening to a radio.

  • @JimGobetz

    @JimGobetz

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's only for the PodCast which is Audio only and posted on KZread after it is posted on Podcast Services. The Two vids are in the archives here

  • @davidkruse3424
    @davidkruse34242 жыл бұрын

    No I guess all the haters out there need to change their God dang Channel. Y'all doing good, keep it up

  • @jejewa2763
    @jejewa27632 жыл бұрын

    Yell us about important crimes of ancien. History

  • @m1t2a1
    @m1t2a12 жыл бұрын

    Waiting is.

  • @uwusmolbean
    @uwusmolbean2 жыл бұрын

    when Seamen become Amberger grease

  • @EARLEHORTONCOXNET
    @EARLEHORTONCOXNET2 жыл бұрын

    Comment

  • @DavidSmith-fw6uj
    @DavidSmith-fw6uj2 жыл бұрын

    I am living her in DeKalb Mississippi THE HOME OF THE BLOODY 43RD Also no is the Camel 🐫 regimen 🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @WISEFLIER
    @WISEFLIER2 жыл бұрын

    It’s all audio.

  • @adenkyramud5005

    @adenkyramud5005

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the podcast is audio only. The other uploads still have video. The audio only is just for the podcast format, so don't worry xD

  • @brianellison3525
    @brianellison35252 жыл бұрын

    Not my fave format, I like having something on the screen. It makes me feel like I'm actually following something. This feels more like the lectures I had to endure at college. Love your channel, but not this so much. Anyways, have fun.

  • @newjargon1697
    @newjargon16972 жыл бұрын

    No video?

  • @paulkelley7445
    @paulkelley74452 жыл бұрын

    Sc

  • @glynnetolar4423
    @glynnetolar44232 жыл бұрын

    Someone please learn audio editing. Levels are inconsistent. Bad for a podcast. Thanks.

  • @nickgorthius1017
    @nickgorthius1017 Жыл бұрын

    With all respect sir I never asked Jesus to die or anything else period that bible was created by Romans at the Council of Nicaea They chose what went into it and what Did Not ! Protestants have Forgotten that the first part is PROTEST What were we PROTESTING ?? ROME period Eh

  • @FlattardiansSuck
    @FlattardiansSuck2 жыл бұрын

    Mate....love your stuff...but KZread is VISUAL... A crap screen with nothing to see... leave it for other media. Disappointed with this channel the first time ever

  • @TheHistoryGuyChannel

    @TheHistoryGuyChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a podcast. We continue to release videos on our regular schedule, but also release a podcast every other week, and then post them here because some listeners have requested them.

  • @FlattardiansSuck

    @FlattardiansSuck

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryGuyChannel understood.... Im suggesting you add some entertaining video...

  • @FlattardiansSuck

    @FlattardiansSuck

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryGuyChannel also... while you are here. A very little known story, I've attempted to tell/ask you to do... Australia, Stradbroke Island. We had a wartime cargo ship washed up in a storm. It carried thousands of tons of ammo. They had to blow it up in the 40s, it cut the Island in two, now we have Jumpinpin bar. A seaway, and north and south Stradbroke Island

  • @218philip

    @218philip

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheHistoryGuyChannel these are great, keep up the great work!

  • @billholland2076
    @billholland20762 жыл бұрын

    I hate podcasts on KZread!

  • @MrWhatsHisFace87

    @MrWhatsHisFace87

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please, tell us more about simple things that bring you displeasure, and how you could easily ignore them.