Thinking about it now, we’re lucky Sting and Warrior didn’t end up failing like the other two Power Team members. Give it to Sting for realizing how ill-prepared he was and continuing to develop himself over the years. And Warrior? He did just enough to get by in the big push he got.

@georgesalgado8783

2 жыл бұрын

That's right on the nose. Well said.

@thejmc4074

2 жыл бұрын

True, warrior made his money though. The fact that sting went from what he was in Memphis to the Icon he became is remarkable.

@gregorylevi1826

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, you just described them to a tee. I mean right on the money.

@Atomykpimp

2 жыл бұрын

Once Sting broke away from Warrior and spent more time around Bill Watts and Eddie Gilbert in UWF. He was ready to learn and boy did he start to learn cause in 1988 he was in the main even at The Clash against Flair 45 minute draw and the rest is history!

@jamesm3657

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said!

Love the story, you wouldnt think he is talking about THE Sting, but he is. People evole or fail

Bassman didn't actually do the training; he recruited and promoted them, as Power Team USA; but hired Red Bastien to train them. Bastien had too many accumulated injuries to work with them in the ring; so, he recruited Bill Anderson to do the in-ring training with the 4 guys and that was barely training. Sting's real training came in UWF, from Eddie Gilbert, Bill Watts and the guys who worked with him. Then, it was the guys he worked with in WCW, especially Flair. Warrior never learned to work and just went to Dallas, who were desperate, then WWF, where Vince was a bodybuilder mark.

@vlada

2 жыл бұрын

Thnx.

@thunderlightning1980

2 жыл бұрын

Truth

@Sargebri

2 жыл бұрын

Amen.

Imagine going back in time to 1986 and saying to someone, 'In less than five years that one will have headlined Starrcade with Ric Flair and that one will have headlined Wrestlemania with Hulk Hogan. Both will be world champions'.

@soniccrp417

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Sting and Flair headlined The Great American Bash July 7, 1990 and that’s when Sting defeated Flair for his first WCW World Heavyweight Title!!!

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Imagine pointing at Leaping Lanny Poffo in 1986 and saying, "In less than five years, this fellow will beat Hogan by count out on television".

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Here's another one: pointing at Shawn Michaels in 1989 and saying that one day he'll hold the WWF World Heavyweight Championship.

Fun fact. Sting and Warrior were both World Champions back in 1990 and lost their respective belts( Sting WCW, Warrior WWF) in January of 1991

@ralph8677

2 жыл бұрын

They also would've won the World Titles at about the same time if Sting hadn't gotten hurt at Clash of the Champions in February of '90. I believe he was scheduled to win the title at WrestleWar later that month, but the injury sidelined him & the title change was delayed until The Great American Bash in July (WrestleWar '90 was on February 25, while WrestleMania VI was a little over a month later on April 1).

Incredibly soft spoken, well researched, good banter with the guests... this interviewer is great. Look forward to seeing more!

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, so "well-researched", he can't tell you the name of the actor who played Randy The Ram in 'The Wrestler'. Given he's seen the movie, probably several times, he shouldn't need to look it up.

To hear Sting was worse than horrible is an interesting thing, given the legacy he leaves behind. It also shows that unlike Warrior, Sting was willing to put the time and effort in to make himself a good wrestler. Fast forward over 30 years later and we're talking about a legendary being, more than worthy of that moniker "Icon".

Sting learned the "business" and became a top guy. Plus he went from "Sting" character to "The Crow" character. It was great for Sting and WCW.

@jimbowlan5804

2 жыл бұрын

Sting going from surfer sting to the crow sting was the best move for both him and wcw

@trentonwalker8602

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact Scott Hall (RIP) gave him the idea for the crow gimmick

@3_KNIVES

2 жыл бұрын

@@trentonwalker8602 You're right! That just shows how bright and intelligent Scott Hall was.

@hankhill5498

Жыл бұрын

@Sasqautch They were both x bouncers, which may have contributed to the fact they were not that friendly and talkative .

@haljordan777

10 ай бұрын

Sting actually went from Bladerunner Flash (his original name) > Bladerunner Sting > Surfer Sting > Crow Sting > Showtime Wolfpack NWO Sting > then at one point in TNA he was Joker Sting. Warrior's Bladerunner name was Rock. He went from Rock > Dingo Warrior (World Class/Dallas version of Ultimate Warrior) > Ultimate Warrior > Warrior (legally changing his name to Warrior)

Man Dutch just hearing that name takes me back. Blessed to see him around

Sting is the GOAT. What other American wrestler has never been booed, never got boring, been on the poster of every building he's ever worked.

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Sting was booed many times in his career. Remember, he was a heel at one time. Tito Santana was always a babyface, ditto Ricky Steamboat.

@meetmeontheflipside6299

Жыл бұрын

Lol shut up

@michaelhunziker7287

10 ай бұрын

Zero promo skills

People constantly talk about how nice Sting is. Maybe not back then but in his WCW days everyone loved him.

@gregorylevi1826

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I think Sting was just following Warrior's lead when they were working together.

@Plainview-tu7xn

2 жыл бұрын

He is talking about mid 80's Sting and his biggest complaint about Sting seems to be that he wasn't very talkative.

ha ha ha… Worse than horrible. Talk about being brutally honest.

And yet sting got better and became the icon And the ultimate warrior (rip) became an absolute legend due to his character

@gopherstate777

2 жыл бұрын

Wrestling is about many things. Dutch never made millions and is not in the hall of fame. Warrior and Sting are. You have your technical wrestlers and you have your circus strongmen. You have the trapeze the clowns and the bearded lady along with the midgets. Everybody comes to the matches for a different reason. My friend Bill in St. Cloud refused to go to the matches when Warrior no-showed (another reason to hate Warrior) But that was the draw for him. Whether Dutch likes it or not Warrior was over. And at least he was a heavyweight, unlike these vanilla midgets that destroyed wrestling.

@gary6754

2 жыл бұрын

@@gopherstate777 - WWE hall of fame is a total arbitrary thing used to serve the purposes of the Mchmahons. Whether someone is in it or not means nothing

I think with Sting, he was somewhat shy. He was obviously more humble than Warrior.. Ironically Sting became not only the better wrestler but the better talker. Warrior had the better body, but had the basic of wrestling skills and his talking never made any sense. Sting would continue to grow and evolve. Warrior stayed a product of his time.

This was a fantastic interview absolutely fantastic

I gotta say, the fella doing the interviews has such a natural, disarming way about him. Knows his stuff inside-out and knows when to let his subject speak. He has a big, big future ahead of him if he given opportunities within the media.

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Really? James often comes across as not knowing the most rudimentary things about wrestling-related stuff. Then Dutch doesn't know, and the two verbally stumble over each other. To be fair, James doesn't come across as trying to put himself over, but really, he's just another handsome face, and the media already has plenty of those. He spends most of his time talking to Dutch, not exactly the most challenging person, as Dutch just rambles about anything. James is at times totally unprepared for the subject, which is annoying to behold.

Dutch has such a great mind for the business him and corny are two of the best minds of the business

I remember hearing of Sting and Warrior's early days in wrestling with Power Team USA. Sting realized how green he was and took the time to gradually improve his in-ring abilities. Warrior, on the other hand, largely got by due to his looks and didn't make any effort to improve in the ring.

@trebillis7399

Жыл бұрын

Come on. Warrior is one of the all time greats in the sport. Sure he wasn't the Ultimate Technician, but wrestling is more than that. Why do you think it is WWE now...with E meaning Entertainment. Warrior was entertaining. Warrior had size. Warrior had Charisma. Really why does the wrestling even matter when all the matches are scripted? Sure wrestling is a part of it, but there is so much more to "wrestling" than wrestling.

@alanguages

Жыл бұрын

@@trebillis7399 True, but for long term character, UW was a short one. Which he obviously planned it as such. UW made the most amount without evolving and sticking to what worked. Without change though, people will get bored. A reason why UW became used in small doses. Sting was in it for the long haul, UW in it to get out. UW did have other passions outside of Pro Wrestling, as it wasn't his entire life.

@TheCristianalvarez

Жыл бұрын

@@trebillis7399 he was only charismatic, if it wasn't for that. He'd be nothing. Warrior sucked take the nostalgia goggles off.

@hankhill5498

Жыл бұрын

@@alanguages Jarret hired them probably because they were eye candy for the ladies.

Ole Dirty Dutch Mantel. I wouldn't have never recognized him. Legendary.

Both of these wrestlers changed the industry, two legends

I remember UW as Dingo Warrior on WCCW right before he signed with WWF, and he was OK.

@brucecrichton3996

2 жыл бұрын

I saw him wrestle Barry Horowitz as Dingo Warrior

I've heard a lot of workers talk about how nice and polite Sting is. Heck, he's been accused of being too nice for his own good

@Plainview-tu7xn

2 жыл бұрын

He is talking about mid 80's Sting and his biggest complaint about Sting seems to be that he wasn't very talkative.

@njldst2007

2 жыл бұрын

@@Plainview-tu7xn I thought he first started talking about mid 80s sting and then went on to make a more general statement right after, but I could have interpreted that wrong too I guess

@njldst2007

2 жыл бұрын

@Bryan Mack Yea saw that interview, to be fair to Sting, he's admitted he was a jerk when he was younger, and yea all evidence would suggest he changed for the better

@AlbanianMan

Жыл бұрын

Al Perez said he was an asshole

I remember seeing them on Memphis TV when they were there.

It's funny how the ultimate Warrior and sting was described as very horrible when they first broke into the business, but who would think years later these same two horrible wrestlers will end up main eventing WrestleMania 6 and the Great American bash, where's sting became NWA World heavyweight champion defeating Ric Flair, and the ultimate Warrior became the WWF champion defeating hulk Hogan. Now that's a story you couldn't write a script in Hollywood. #RIPWarrior #IconSting

I always heard Sting was a super nice classy guy in WCW/TNA. I think they were probably just nervous and confused early in their career because they knew they didn't fit in with those veteran southern wrestlers. Just a year prior, Sting was a bodybuilder who owned gym and Warrior was a bodybuilder aspiring to be a chiropractor. I'm sure they felt like fish out of water.

@fixpacifica

2 жыл бұрын

I'd read that other wrestlers got tired of his Christian preaching, and were angry at him for snitching to another wrestler's wife about her husband's adultery.

@easyriderrider4580

2 жыл бұрын

@@fixpacifica wow, when did that happen?

@blake7871

2 жыл бұрын

@@fixpacifica I’ve never heard that. You have a source?

@myleswayne301

2 жыл бұрын

@@blake7871 Shaggy 2 dope from Insane Clown Posse made up a rumor that Sting, after being a born again christian, told on wrestlers wifes that their husbands committed adultery. There's 2 problems about this rumor 1. Shaggy and Sting were never friends. There's no source or evidence of this incident. Vampiro is the only guy back in the late 90's that didn't like Sting. The other wrestlers in WCW had no issues with him. 2. If this rumor was true, different wrestlers from WCW would have exposed Sting before WCW closed in 2001.

@fixpacifica

Жыл бұрын

@Aaron9 I tried to post a source, but KZread doesn't allow links. There was a story on ringsidenews entitled, "Sting Called Out For Snitching On Wrestlers Who Were Cheating On Their Wives". It's from May 13, 2021.

Well,to be honest.Guys that spend probably around 4 to 6 hours a day lifting weights are not exactly going to be the most social people. Those guys are wired differently and have a different mindset.

@bmorris7373

2 жыл бұрын

And no life

@fixpacifica

2 жыл бұрын

I found most of the guys who were spending hours in the gym were very talkative. You had a few people who just wanted to lift and not be distracted, though.

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

@@bmorris7373 If you've ever met a bodybuilder, you'd know that's not true. Bodybuilders actually do have interests outside the gym.

I'm very anti social with the general public, but I've always tried to communicate with my co-workers because you spend the majority of your waking hours with or around them. Plus knowing how someone thinks, acts, and reacts can prevent terrible situations from happening.

@allurhatrbelongtome

2 жыл бұрын

Don't have to like them, just gotta work with them. It makes your worklife easier to be able function with your coworkers

@whitetrashdunham132

2 жыл бұрын

@@allurhatrbelongtome very true. I much prefer machines to people. If I hit most machines with a hammer, I only get a small amount of grief. Hit a coworker with a hammer and you'll never hear the end of it.

As a fan who actually saw them wrestle together as a tag team back in the mid-80s they got better as a team.. it was rough in the beginning but they did get their chops and they were a force to reckon with but as we know they wouldn't find Fame together but separate.. they became Legends

I followed their wrestling careers from The UWF to Warrior going to WCCW & then WWF & Sting to WCW. They both became famous & especially made their money. I'm glad Warrior was mad at Sting(for a stupid reason by the way)& left him because it allowed Sting to grow.

@jpbart1390

2 жыл бұрын

sting became a good worker. so good, hulk hogan was happy to put him over. i can't say the same for the ultimate diva.

@hellwig2357

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpbart1390 r u sure?

@jpbart1390

2 жыл бұрын

@@hellwig2357 sure about...?

@linkvagar2336

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpbart1390 About Hogan being happy to put Sting over...considering they botched Starcade 97 due to Hogan not wanting to put Sting over.

@jpbart1390

2 жыл бұрын

@@linkvagar2336 i call bullshit on that. sting was wayyy over & hogan was one of the reasons why. i'm sure they're friends behind the scenes. why do you think hogan put his hand up to be the 3rd guy in the nwo?

You and Dutch actually have awesome chemistry. Glad he's back.

What I don't get about these old timers like Mantell. They always talk bad about guys who were green, but where else were they supposed to get experience from? Territories like Memphis were the training grounds for these guys to actually get the experience needed before moving on to the bigger companies. If every one of these guys had this mindset, there'd be no wrestlers at all because no one would have ever been given the chance being that they were too "green"

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

Dutch just comes across like an arsehole here. I agree, everyone needs to start somewhere.

Great stories. Love it. I am myself like Ultimate Warrior and Sting as it relates to being social. Just how I am. So I can relate to that from their side.

@stinkypinkeee5085

2 жыл бұрын

So you think yer better than people because yer from California and they from Memphis? Because that's yhe only reason for the behavior...California sucks...

@noizewriter3324

2 жыл бұрын

@@stinkypinkeee5085 Oh so you think your better than others because you shove your business in other peoples faces regardless if they asked for it or not...Guess introverts must love you

@steven3517

2 жыл бұрын

I know you mean,I do not go out of my way to make people like me either but it still happens enough. I just don't trust most people,because you can't trust them all.

@fixpacifica

2 жыл бұрын

@@stinkypinkeee5085 Andy Kaufman knew California was better than Memphis.

@stinkypinkeee5085

2 жыл бұрын

@@fixpacifica Touchė....any Amdy Kaufman reference wins automatically with me!

If I remember the origins of Sting and Warrior correctly, Rick Bassman was a young would-be wrestling promoter looking to start his own thing in LA back in the mid-80s, he put out ads looking for young hopefuls and got a small group, getting old-time wrestler Red Bastein to train them and make them into his group Powerteam USA, four young musclemen with American ideals. The team had a cup of coffee together, just a couple matches at most, when Bassman's plans fell through. The other two guys (I think their names were Garland Donohue and Mark Miller) quit wrestling right after and were never heard from again, but Steve Borden and Jim Hellwig decided to continue, with Bastein recommending them to Jarrett (side note: there were two other young wrestlers trained with them: Steve DiSalvo who went on to have a decent run in Calgary, and David Sheldon (1953-2007) who wrestled for Bill Watts and Fritz Von Erich as the Angel of Death). Unfortunately as Jerry Lawler once commented, the two were green as goose shit and Memphis Wrestling didn't have the abilities at the time to help them improve. But they kept at it and did get better, particularly Borden/Sting

I remember them in Mid South/UWF as The Bladerunners, one of the earlier Road Warrior clones (hence the facepaint that they carried on throughout their careers). They were known as Rock and Sting

@sicemdawgs2178

2 жыл бұрын

The Ultimate Warrior and Sting

@creoleDJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@sicemdawgs2178 the Ultimate Warrior didn't carry that title until he got to WWF. He was Bladerunner Rock in Mid South and UWF, and was the Dingo Warrior afterwards in World Class Championship Wrestling...

@sicemdawgs2178

2 жыл бұрын

@@creoleDJ oh OK Thanks I didn't know that he was called Rock

@sicemdawgs2178

2 жыл бұрын

@@creoleDJ I was more of a 80s NWA Fan

@creoleDJ

2 жыл бұрын

@William Sutton yep, he was their on-screen manager in Mid South

When they both showed up in Memphis, they were from California and neither one was a wrestling fan. They were bodybuilders. Sting owned half of a Golds gym. They wanted to make money. They were talked into trying pro wrestling. They both made a ton of money. As most people in WCW, they all said Sting was very kind and learned to go 30 mins or more.

Cornette said it best: Sting learned to work, Warrrior never did. I think a huge problem was Hellwigs attitude, he thought because he had the biggest muscles he should be made the star. Everyone (who isnt second generation) comes into the business as green as grass, but the Warriors, Koloff and the Warlord were all humble and shut up until they learned and earned a spot.

@vincesmith2499

2 жыл бұрын

But Warrior did better than all those guys you mentioned.

@ziggypop79

2 жыл бұрын

Warrior working rest holds and sleepers wouldn’t work, would it? Think about it. Warrior was the biggest star in wrestling after Hulk Hogan.

@JackBarrett7

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziggypop79 You seem to think that wrestlers make it on merit and are not given the top spot by a board room of writers.

@JackBarrett7

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincesmith2499 Not really. the Warlord and Nikita, def, but its arguable he was bigger than the Warriors or Sting, besides, he was given his spot by writers bc he looked like a comic book hero. "Did better" is def subjective, especially when no one in the business has anything good to say about him and his career only last ten non consecutive years.

@vincesmith2499

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackBarrett7 The Road Warriors were a great tag team, but the Ultimate Warrior was a singles star. Sting had more longevity, but he never had a moment like WrestleMania VI. He had a chance to have a huge moment at Starrcade 97, but the match stunk. So I'd say Warrior did better. Warrior never learned to work and had a short career. The same can be said for Goldberg, yet not as many people criticize him. Both men accomplished a lot in their short careers. Warrior just gets hate because he didn't get along with certain people backstage.

I’m the territory days it never would’ve worked but Sting and Warriors aloof attitude likely helped them with what the business became. You can’t get backstabbed if you don’t have friends.

I used to go to the matches in Evansville as a kid! So much fun! That's why Dutch! Give Evansville love 💘!

@kjdenton6248

2 жыл бұрын

Place would be packed

Say what ya want about Jim with his insanity and his ability none of that even mattered with a character like him and you can never deny the fact he took over the sport and was SERIOUS money...and me being a kid back in the 80's 90's i was a HUGE Warrior fan. R.I.P Jim.

@abefinklestein711

Жыл бұрын

Most fans feel the way you do, all this insider smart fan behind the scenes backstory internet bullsh*t has its place. The Average fan all we know is "I like this character"! And thats all that matters.

@markv1274

Жыл бұрын

@@abefinklestein711 The Warrior wasn't even aware of the existence of "smart fans" until an interviewer pointed them out to him, many years after the end of The Warrior's major league wrestling career. If you can find the interview, it's actually pretty amusing. The Warrior dismissed them instantly.

Everybody has to break in and learn, both became HOF, Dutch a great veteran.

@schandmaske

2 жыл бұрын

Drew Carey is in the Hall of Fame too though 💀😂

@gopherstate777

2 жыл бұрын

@@schandmaske Not the same shitfish.

@jacobbradford2543

2 жыл бұрын

@@schandmaske facts

@schandmaske

2 жыл бұрын

@@gopherstate777 🤣 Cry moor (more)

@quebecerpepe2421

2 жыл бұрын

Warrior never gave a crap about learning his craft or progressing as a wrestler in-ring. He was never more than a walking action figure who loved the smell of his own farts, specifically with those nonsensical rambling promos. And he was his own worst enemy, bungling chance after chance by Vince. His HOF speech made very clear how delusional he was. And I can never respect him after hearing his "queering doesn't make the world go round" rant

I work with a young fella like that. Not social at all. I see him doing dumb things on the job, and I’ve tried to buddy up to him, not because I want to, but to get social with him so I can teach him. It’s like trying to teach a bowl of mac&cheese. Then I took to making sure he see me doing something right, so he might notice and get the hint…… WOOSH.. right over his head.

Love some dutch

A lot of 'wrestlers' (almost all of them), still to this day, are jelly of the Warrior's tremendous success. Sad.

@tomwigal8856

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see why he was a dick with no Talent whatsoever

@giovannisocci8793

2 жыл бұрын

He had no talent,he got his push bc of McMahon homosexuality,once he shrunk his career was over,a primadonna.

@millyonair9225

2 жыл бұрын

@@giovannisocci8793 i undestrand he wasn't a great worker but he looked great and had a good gimmick. He was very, very popular for a while which made vince a lot of $. He was right to give him a big push.

@gary6754

2 жыл бұрын

@@giovannisocci8793 - good point about mchahon being a sodomite...... he thought hellwig was a attractive hence he a got a push

Omg the part where talks about them driving absolutely killed me😅😅😅

I grew up in louisville, went every tuesday night to the louisville gardens for about 6 years.

The crazy thing is that they would both be world champions simultaneously! I never understood how either of them got so over. I was in Baltimore at the card where Sting beat Flair for the NWA belt, and I swear that the crowd was 95% behind Sting.

Looking at their matches, I enjoy it and Warrior is defiantly my number one favorite Wrestler.

I remember reading those wrestling magazine's in the late 80s about all the territories they were once called faces of death or something like that as a tag team...

There were initially four members of Power Team USA. They received some pub by PWI. Only Sting and Warrior made it to wrestle when they started in Memphis. Only the Road Warriors had a similar build back then. That's why they got a chance.

Why did Jarrett/Lawler hire Borden/Hellwig? The same simple reason why any business hires employees--to MAKE MONEY. The same reason why Jarrett hired other horrible workers like Kamala, Hogan, and Jesse Ventura. It is ironic that the person being asked this question was Dutch Mantell, a good worker who nevertheless never drew a dime at a major promotion, unlike Sting, Warrior, and the other non-workers I mentioned.

@millyonair9225

2 жыл бұрын

You nailed it. History proved that they were right to give them both a big push. These low level wrestlers are painfully jeaous.

@dungeoneerofphilosophyphd172

Жыл бұрын

@@millyonair9225 he's right tho? Warrior was never a good wrestler, and there were plenty of good wrestlers who drew money. Warrior didn't make it big where no one else ever could have, he just took someone the spot of someone more deserving.

@millyonair9225

Жыл бұрын

@@dungeoneerofphilosophyphd172 again, he was jelly that a least 'deserving' guy than him got to be a multi-millionaire. Sad.

I know you have them just as props, but I love those Lucha masks you have in the background. La Parka is one of my favorites.

@WSI

2 жыл бұрын

I got them from a website called mr masked man - look them up, pretty reasonable prices, at least a couple of years ago when I got them

@G33kCulture

2 жыл бұрын

@@WSI That's awesome. I used to get mine from high spots way back in the day. I'll give them a look and let them know you sent me. Maybe a sponsorship in your future? Eh eh? Ok, I'm out.

When Warrior had the WCW run they missed a trick by not having sting go back to surfer sting and reunite the Blade Runners

@mikeyerian7531

2 жыл бұрын

That would of been bad ass! Surfer sting and old school run to the ring warrior!

@johnbrown1691

Жыл бұрын

I think that warrior still had heat with sting from the Memphis days

Where I grew up wrestling came around maybe once a year back in the hulkamania days and 2 or 3 times during the Austin days.

They never got any better.

The Ultimate Warrior was such a character! Over the top and larger than life!! the fans loved that! Warrior could just run down to the ring beat someone up in a very basic way! I think people saw him like a cartoon character! Like he-man or something? It was highly entertaining to see Warrior as this character that was a superman type wrestler! Intensity on 11!!!

It's SO funny as to how Sting looks as to compared to now.

Props to Dutch for rocking the 1864 chops

Warrior was enormous in their days. He was actually smaller in the 80s fed.

Sting was never a technician and never had to be, he was a bodybuilder with a great look, especially after the Crow gimmick change, and a few great signature moves/finishers. And well, Warrior was Warrior.

Wish someone would get Phil Hickerson for an interview

@oldschoolfan420

2 жыл бұрын

Hickerson would of told how green they were.

@denniscook512

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldschoolfan420...Phil was/is a legend around Jackson Tn for being a brawler. Before he got into rasslin he was known for doing fights like Clint Eastwood did in Every Which Way But Loose. One Bad SOB

Warrior was in World Class as the Dingo Warrior

Naturally, being socialble in the locker room matters. In all walks of life, people are more inclined to help you when they like you.

Neither had any experience in wrestling before getting into the business. They just had the look and body that made them look better than they actually where

Brother you really look like Christopher Nolan

Obviously, the two up and comers had a lot of potential!

You think about it back in the day everybody went through Memphis everybody

Always wondered what would've happened if Sting went to the old F & Warrior would've went to the NWA..... Trivia - Warrior was originally pegged to play the Big Van Vader character in Japan.... 🤔

I remember that started out as the freemdom fighrers then changed to the bladerunners.

His story on sting is a little different than most people's

I do have a distinct difference with Dutch on Jim. In working for The Spectrum in Philadelphia for years I got to know Jim and he was a great friend to me. So maybe it was people who were jealous of the success of Jim and thats why they have this opinion of him that they do.

first match was in Jonesboro, AR I was there and it was gawdawful

@4:30 Stan Lane in Cardio would wipe the floor with both Sting and Ultimate Warrior,Stan Lane Physique-Wise,Conditioning and Wrestling Underrated!

@AlbanianMan

2 жыл бұрын

Yet Warrior and Sting drew more money in just a short period of time than any of those hillbillies Jim Cornette was paired with did in their entire careers. Workrate isn't what sells tickets, characters and storylines do which is really all that matters in wrestling.

@vincesmith2499

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't Stan Lane Lauren Boebert's biological father? Lol.

@gary6754

2 жыл бұрын

yea but nobody gave 2 shits about stan lane

Sting and Warrior went on to rule the sport entertainment industry(Pro Wrestling).

i first saw ultimate warrior when he was the dingo warrior in dallas

I happened to see these two as the Bladerunners in Mid-South a couple of times and wished I did not !

Interesting, the only other wrestler to say anything negative regarding Sting was Vampiro. Eddie Gilbert did more for Sting and Rick Steiner by the time they started with JCP compared to Warrior working for Fritz before he started with Vince. Sting definitely had the better career overall with the NWA/WCW but Warrior had the bigger stage with the WWF. Warrior's promos were just enough to get by but made absolutely no sense while Sting was being taught by Dusty, Flair and Windham on how to work a match and getting over with the fans.

They Had an 8-Man Tag Team Match in California, Then Bassman Sent Steve & Jim to Memphis Awhile Afterwards

I think Sting getting beaten up by Dick Slater was an Eye Opener for him,I mean to get your head put in the toilet is just insane. I heard later that Warrior didnt escape unscathed either-Dick Murdoch - Captain Redneck himself held Warrior against a Wall with his fist cocked. So they where not well liked 😳

I thought that was davy boy smith at first glance of warriors picture. Thats funny lol i can imagine them being like robots driving down the road, no wonder warrior never learned anything. Sting later adapted somewhat. He was too busy thinking about which planet he was going to mention in his promo to hear what anyone was saying

There were actually 4 guys and were named power team USA and were body builders. 2 left and sting and warrior were created into the blade runners

@zombieninjatedsmith1301

2 жыл бұрын

The power team ended up coming to my high-school. Positivity spreading bodybuilders teaching life lessons and doing feats of strength.

@jamesgallagher1992

2 жыл бұрын

Think were possibly 5...garland donoho..mark miller..and the bald guy who became angel of death👍👍

@sgzartan

2 жыл бұрын

@@zombieninjatedsmith1301 I know what you're talking about, but you're referring to the Christian Feat Ministry group known as The Power Team. Sting, Warrior, and the 2 other guys were known as Powerteam U.S.A.

@sgzartan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgallagher1992 Rick Bassman showed a 1985 Northridge, Ca poster that had the four members of Powerteam U.S.A. vs. The Bad Guys, which consisted of Bill Anderson, Angel Of Death, Steve Disalvo and one other guy.

@jamesgallagher1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgzartan cheers👍

Idgaf what anyone says...ultimate warrior is awesome

Wasn’t many Wednesday nights I missed at the Evansville collisium, it was always packed. Curious to know why Dutch said that.

@raylsullivan

2 жыл бұрын

Dutch was talking about Evansville in terms of scheduling. Covering 2/3 of Tennessee and, fitting in a weekly Louisville stop took its toll. Weekly TV show was at 11 AM Saturdays in Memphis. They had a house show in Nashville at 8 PM on Saturdays.

Cornette tells a story about going back home to Louisville when he was with Crockett. He decided to go see the show at the Louisville Garden to visit some friends backstage. Then all of a sudden he noticed both locker rooms cleared and all went to the curtain to see the next match. And he thought geez this has got to be pretty good for getting that much attention. Someone nearby said "Just watch..." Then Jim proclaims never in 40 years of being in the business did he ever see anyone else who couldn't have decent match with Lawler/Dundee. And it went 1 hour broadway 😂

"They were very green." - Dutch Mantell

Ask Dutch if he remembers the Saturday morning show when Phil Hickerson pummeled helwig

FWIW, I remember waiting to see them appear on UWF and even recall their "Midnight Express" theme. Maybe Lawler knew something.

@middlefinger1565

2 жыл бұрын

The Blade Runners used the song Castle Walls from Styx's masterpiece album The Grand Illusion from 1977.

@davidmeichner8346

2 жыл бұрын

@@middlefinger1565 I could have confirmed online, but I'm literally relying on memory from the 1st month of the UWF television program.

Well say what ever but In 1987 The WWF grabbed THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR & WCW SIGNED STING IN 1988...BOTTOM LINE LOOK AT WHAT THAY became BOTH became biggest Superstars in the business. Example: WWF WRESTLEMANIA 6 1990 & WCW STARRCADE 1997 ect.

@jayanthony2414

2 жыл бұрын

🤦🏽 Relevance genius

I would have like to have seen surfer sting go to the wwe in 1992...form a tag team with ultimate warrior...call themselves bladerunner 2...would have been fun to watch

Dutch is right. They stunk

U R the 2nd best source on youtube for professional wrestling next to KC. Please keep up the great work. The hanibal sucks.

their first live show match was in Jonesboro,, AR and gawd awful horrible

I never heard Sting not being friendly it sounds like he was shy.

@johnm3907

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i remember a nwa vid i think, he was in locker room with a coked up hawk, animal, williams and luger. He seemed fine honestly a bit shy like you said

@ryanjacobson2508

2 жыл бұрын

Both Sting and Warrior are on the introverted side. It seems like a lot of Southerners misinterpret introversion for arrogance or rudeness (most of Warrior's biggest critics seem to be Southerners).

@magilla2282

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnm3907 I saw that vid😆

@tomwigal8856

2 жыл бұрын

He has to be talkin about sting from that time because there's a lot of people who in the business who likes stinger the Warriors from what I heard why never likes by many veterans

@gary6754

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanjacobson2508 - yes they do..... I'm very shy. I used to work on projects throughout the country and many southerners work on these projects too. Alot of people thought I was rude and conceited because I kept to myself. But, I had a bad social anxiety and felt very uncomfortable in big groups

Almost didn't recognize Dutch without 'shoo-baby' with him.

Both in wwe hall of fame 🙌

Horrible to two of the most loved and legendary wrestlers ever, especially Sting. I'd say that's better than any indie legend who wrestled for years with 5$ in the bank. Old school guys seem to be very bitter because people couldn't "work". It's like any job, you learn and gain experience then get better. Sting is known by everyone to be one of the nicest human beings ever in wrestler. Warrior just had another vibe but people did say he could be friendly if you got him. Dutch is a hater. Sting is the ICON of WCW and Warrior is remembered by everyone. And Dutch? Like Conor would say " Who da fook is that guy"?.

Flair said Sting should have went to WWF. That’s praise.

It’s too bad they had a falling out. I would have loved to have seen a Sting/Warrior match somewhere other than on my PlayStation.

Who did the Jim Helwig blow, to get that title belt?

Good interviewer. Lets Dutch talk and doesnt interject. Good knowledge too for his age if 80s Wrestling.

If you see that photo on the thumbnail of sting n Warrior they do look robotic..like two android wrestlers from Westworld