a580 rx 580 Magic number.

@user-dn3uq6nr8k

2 ай бұрын

Gtx 580

@rtx3060g6

2 ай бұрын

;)

The a580 has the potential to age very well, much like AMD's RX 580 has. Given it has HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.0, a 256-bit memory bus, and AVI encode / decode, even when it eventually becomes unable to play anything beyond indie games, this will be an excellent daily use workhorse - many, many years down the line.

Props to Intel for continuing to milk their hardware's performance with driver optimizations. I really hope they kickstart their GPU division back up and bring more hardware to market. I have a feeling that they will with their recent performance successes that they've been able to squeeze out of their existing hardware. AMD needs to step it up too because we need legit competitive raytracing capabilities from them, and GPU PCBs that aren't re-used previous gen PCBs. I was excited about the 7800XT until it ended up having the same giant PCB as the 6800XT. Look at how small/compact the RTX 4000 series PCBs are compared to AMD's PCBs. WTH is AMD doing with all that extra PCB!? Shrink that shizz down mayne!!!!

@christianhogeland9091

8 ай бұрын

I've been super impressed with my Intel Arc A770 lately, the games I play Im able to get 4K 60FPS stable no problem.

@dontsupportrats4089

8 ай бұрын

Battlemage is soon* whatever that means to Intel (2-20 years?)

@NubAnSkrub

8 ай бұрын

​@@dontsupportrats4089Next year

@watynecc3309

8 ай бұрын

woah raelly cool :D can u work on blender with it ? @@christianhogeland9091

@nori6237

8 ай бұрын

Their potential are great indeed, so much that Nvidia felt a bit threatened by it with that drama Nvidia doing to their AIB partners earlier. But if Intel keep this up at this slow pace, it would be difficult for them to be seen as a competitor. However what they did with pricing are absolutely correct and hopefully that wouldn't cost their drivers development team. Well, slow pace are better than nothing anyway if that's the maximum they could do.

I have owned an HD 5770, 7770, GTX 1050 ti, RX 570 and now an RX 6600. I don’t know why but I have a soft spot for decent budget cards even though I could afford more.

@noterenyega9158

8 ай бұрын

Based

@Vorexia

8 ай бұрын

I also have an RX 6600, upgraded from an R9 280X lol. The sweet thing about budget GPUs (especially used) is that you don't have to feel as committed to your purchase. I happen to mostly play games with last-gen graphics, so the 6600 is perfect for me anyway, but if I happened to need an early upgrade because of the poor RT performance, low/slow VRAM, or some missing features compared to next-gen cards in the same price range, I could just go for it. Or not, but it feels like a completely free choice. With higher-end cards, I'd feel like I have to commit to keeping it in my build for much longer to not feel like I wasted my money.

@Barksyyy

8 ай бұрын

@@Vorexia I would say with the top tier higher end cards there's even less argument to keep them longer. At the end of the day you're paying a premium to have a taste of all the latest greatest features even if like with ''early taxass'' games they don't even perform as well as they're supposed to until they've ironed out all the creases and bugs near on a year later. Personally even if I had the money to burn and could afford a top tier card I would wanna sell it within 2-3yrs before it loses most of it's value in order to recoup some money after inevitably getting ripped off on the next gen upgrade but clearly that's been a major issue lately since the performance jumps haven't been worth it. I've spent the past 3-4yrs considering my next GPU for a new build as I took a long break from gaming and missed my chance to upgrade to one of the 10xxxx series cards and needed to educate myself a bit more on everything from the past decade, or so before I could confidently jump back into it again (and to think there was a brief moment when I thought £700 wasn't a bad deal for a 3070ti lol) All I can say is if I were to go the AMD route then the rx6600 is probably the one card that seems to have stood out above all the rest to me for it's price to performance and generous VRAM given all the many reviews I've watched and I give you my trust me bro guarentee that I've pretty much watched them all. So with that said I'd say you made the sensible choice and I hope it serves you as well as my ASUS 550ti has been serving me all these years even if all it's good for now is decade old games and to watch youtube reviews of GPU's I can neither afford, nor want to buy until something decent comes along, at a reasonable price but ya never know, maybe I'll give it another 2-3yrs and see what Nvidias 5050ti has to offer for what will likely be called a £550 ''midrange'' card. Failing that Intel or AMD may be the ONLY affordable route left to go but for now I am choosing to stand my ground, shaking my fist angrily, voting with my already empty wallet, and while I wish Intel well, right now both Nvidia and AMD can suck on my Mudokon SoulStorm Brew and all these so called AAA rated games can eat my AAA rated ASS since I'd rather go back in time and play games that are 1-2-3 decades old. You know back when games were actually fun and people were too busy enjoyng playing them to be obsessing over how their reflections shimmer and cast over a damn puddle lol

@GoonyMclinux

8 ай бұрын

If I blow up a $300 card I can shrug it off. 😂

@Barksyyy

8 ай бұрын

@@GoonyMclinux Meanwhile Nvidia and AMD be reading this like haha cool story bro, appreciate your support, guess you won't mind us slapping an extra $200-500 on each next gen card then Mr Money Bagz. In fact since you've got money to burn why don't we just lock DLSS/RT/FSR to be subscription based too, you still good though bro? lolz 🤑💰💸

The launch driver for the A580 was an older version which didn't come with many fixes they already had for The Last of Us, Starfield and many more so expect a new one to drop real soon to rectify that.

I know not that many people care about power usage, but it's worth noting that the intel a580 always consumes more power that the radeon card. When i saw in gpu details that tbp was 185 watts i couldnt believe, and i also seems that the card never goes that high.

@Davinmk

8 ай бұрын

280 averages in games

@TheUltraMinebox

8 ай бұрын

Bruh thats the same as the 4070 consumption. Nvidia whyyy

There's already brand new arc drivers that address many of these wonky games a couple days ago, which makes it all the more weird they didn't have the changes in the press drivers. They essentially sent out old drivers that they knew were old drivers. 😖

@maximus3294

8 ай бұрын

took a page from amd's book

@zodwraith5745

8 ай бұрын

@@maximus3294 Exactly the odd kind of thing you'd expect from AMD marketing.

@SB-pf5rc

8 ай бұрын

lawl they're just copying their competition

@kevinerbs2778

8 ай бұрын

You guys have no idea how building & releasing a driver works.

@SB-pf5rc

8 ай бұрын

@@kevinerbs2778 or we're just taking the piss. lighten up, francis

A750 is on sale for $185 right now and A580 is kinda slow and worse it has a 300+ wattage, that is wrong. I hope the october update will help the A580...

Looks like Intel was waiting for the 7600 and 4060 to be launched so they could decide to go with A580 or not, it's looking pretty good.

Excellent breakdown good sir. Do you think Intel's next gen will bring it (caveat, at a reasonable price)? I really, really hope so, but I fully admit that though is probably inhaling hard on copium. I love your presentation, and personality. You're doing some good stuff here.

180 is still big for beta product try to play non dx12 or non vulkan games with it or emulators.

@Arxgxmi

8 ай бұрын

they work fine check other arc benchmarks now

@Arxgxmi

8 ай бұрын

a lot of emulators also have vulkan rendering available or open gl both of which have pretty stellar performance on intel

Thank you brother, I've found the exact info what I needed, again Thank you very much 🙂

I love the dual 8 pins power connector. Every new PSUs have native 8 pins PCIe power connector now. I am annoyed at every GPU that use 8 pins + 6 pins combination which leaves me 2 pins hanging.

0:12 Omg, look at the little baby graphics card. Look at the little baby!!! It's so cute!

This Intel card actually, especially for productivity seems like incredible value. Intel's been doing great work with their drivers, I've no doubt they'll continue to work on it and churn out more performance gains. This card definitely seems cool, but i think it's a real wait and see thing. Hope you revisit the card later though Vex - especially at this proce class, having credible options is very important :)

@Davinmk

8 ай бұрын

not with the power consumption

Your videos are awesome. Glad I found your channel.

Very cool review. Will you be updated the spreadsheet with the RX 5700XT numbers? - As a 5700XT owner I'm still hesitent to upgrade with the older games I play (when I get the time). I was going for the 7800XT but I'll guess I have to wait one more generation before I'll upgrade.

@igiornogiovannahaveadream649

8 ай бұрын

What cpu do you have? Wont it be bottlenecking if you go for example for a 8800xt

I’m not hoping or coping or simping for Intel, but I do feel that Intels Battlemage will address most (not all) of these issues to some degree as well Intel has been excelling at addressing game performance issues with regular driver releases. Intel did state that it’s their first gaming performance GPU for a loooooong time (A740 AGP/PCI GPU) and there are some hardware issues which need and will be improved upon or dealt with with Battlemage which is great to see. We need a third player 8n the GPU market as both AMD and Nvidia bought out other competitors in the good old GPU wars days and we’re now paying (literally) the price of those acquisitions.

@darthwiizius

7 ай бұрын

I think Intel have done reasonably well with their move back into the gaming and creator markets. It took years for Nvidia and then AMD to build up their catalogue of drivers so their new cards generally function mostly on launch. Intel's drivers will improve as will the efficiency of their chips I'm sure, I might consider an Intel at some point in the next couple of years to upgrade my 2060S I've been using since April 2020, I think there might be a lot of value for money with Intel.

That frametime graph though bro :))) Yeah. It's competitive. nVidia heard you, and is going to release a 3050 6Gb to fill in that sub 200$ price-point :))

@melexxa

8 ай бұрын

lmao a 3050 96bit memory bus wont even be close to the a580, probably ~40-50% slower

@GoonyMclinux

8 ай бұрын

​@@melexxaat that point a used 5700xt for $100 would be a better option.

@HunterTracks

8 ай бұрын

If the rumours are true and it's going to be just a laptop 3050 that's been slightly scaled up to be usable in desktops, it'll need to cost $120 or less to be cost competitive with either of the two cards in the video.

@GoonyMclinux

8 ай бұрын

@@HunterTracks if it was $120 I would use them, anything more and it wouldn't be worth the effort.

@mil260zs

8 ай бұрын

3050 is so fucking bad its not even funny Its not even worth 170$ Anything above gtx 1660 ti/super is better than it

Intel just takes AMD's market share away. Nvidia as a market leader couldn't care less.

@usnpeepoo

8 ай бұрын

This, lol.

@puffyips

8 ай бұрын

Ehh not 100% true

@AlexanderMichelson

8 ай бұрын

@@puffyips I remember seeing market share statistics. Basically AMD shrunk due to Intel. For a consumer both AMD/Intel are seen as a less successful budget alternative to Nvidia, unfortunately.

@HunterTracks

8 ай бұрын

I mean, yeah, it's difficult to undermine Nvidia by selling cards in the budget segment they're not competing in.

@geekongames5226

8 ай бұрын

watch whole damn video.

Prices across the board also could drop whenever the 4080 Ti comes out and if it will be on 4080 levels of price as rumored right now. Hope that happens.

@makunouchiippo816

8 ай бұрын

Prices for nvidia graphic cards never really dropped to a noticable difference

@Hexenkind1

8 ай бұрын

@@makunouchiippo816 Well the leaker that said that is pretty reliable so far. I believe him.

@Davinmk

8 ай бұрын

@@makunouchiippo816i mean 4070 went down 80$, 4080 100$

Thx for all these informations

only issue is resizable bar being mandatory and power consumption being quite high including needing 2 8 pin connectors.

actually, i can buy a new RX 6600 less than $180 in indonesia, and so far its offer equal performance with arc a580 minus with ray tracing performance

The a750 is at 190$ right now, so I think at this point in time it's not worth it, but maybe after some price drops or some sales it might be a very good budget card

@thenoobreturnz8968

8 ай бұрын

That seems more work it at that price point than the current line up

Nice to see Intel gave you a review unit

Herkelman said completed in the sense of no more asics. we already seen the 7500 xt name leak which is gonna have more or less the same specs as the rx 6600

RX580 and 1070ti are still the best bang for buck I got before the mining GPU shortage BS

@Dregomz02

8 ай бұрын

Not really, rx 5700 xt is the best bang for buck i got mine for $120 and it's 2x faster than rx 580.

@igorb2674

8 ай бұрын

​@@Dregomz02you bought a used graphics card

@Dregomz02

8 ай бұрын

@@igorb2674and? i never said it was brand new

Starfield and remnant 2 is not Intel's fault it's just that amd doesn't want intel to work on these titles. Game devs are at fault.

I like that Intel has gotten its drivers into shape and made its Arc video cards a viable, lower-cost alternative to Nvidia and AMD. Competition is always good for consumers because you have choice, and it also forces the competition to improve their products or at least rethink their pricing. For myself, I bought a used Nvidia 1080 Ti several years ago, and it's been a workhorse when it comes to video production. In DaVinci Resolve, render times are very good.

Give it another 3 or 4 driver releases i reckon and then take another look at it, if you are considering the gpu

Bought all 3 of the Intel sparkle cards. Love them and what Intel is doing

hello, can u compare the Arc 580 with the amd 6600xt , 5700xt, 6700xt and rtx 3060 / 3060ti / 4060 in rendering / blender applications?

@poggertroll

8 ай бұрын

He doesn't have all those cards

Congrats on the new mic. Just notice it now.

interesting can you do Arc a380 vs Arc a580 in productivity video?

Props to intel but I am curious to see if they will still maintain this pricing approach when they reach the point of being up there with amd and nvidia. Before the haters start, what I mean with this, is that intel gpus, while loved, go team blue, they still are a bit meh on the driver side. So when they manage to consistently deliver drivers that are on par with the other competitors on day 1, will they keep the prices low? Or will they reconsider?

@87crimson

8 ай бұрын

It's all about market share. They need to steal market share from NVIDIA and build their reputation as a dedicated GPU vendor. Raising prices while trying to gain share would be an asnine move. Remember that at the same price and performance 99 percent of us would all buy NVIDIA GPUs.

We need more competition. More options is always better.

You can tell that there's a trend where the A580 underperforms in unreal engine titles and PS5 exclusives, pretty sure this can be fixed with driver updates. Regardless of this, W intel for releasing a current gen affordable entry level GPU with very good performance as well

Was ReBar enabled with these tests? It really mattered with early drivers(idk how this scales up after all driver updates)

@vextakes

8 ай бұрын

Yeah it was. U would know if it was off, it’s atrocious System specs are in the description

you're not mentioning u didnt unlock the 100 watt limit on rx 6600, not only that but its much more power efficient as u can undervolt it + overclock it very well

Did you put Resizable BAR on?? It means alot for Intel Cards behaviour and performance.

@Zxanonblade

8 ай бұрын

He's been using Intel cards for a while now so he probably had rebar on

This is great and all, but Intel should figure out how to write a driver that works without Rebar support.

Seriously can't wait for Battlemage!!!

It's gonna be a long hell of a journey for intel, AMD made it to where they cannot go anywhere unless they flop real bad(they won't), if intel manages to do the normal compute stuff, and productivity stuff and would ignore things like ray tracing, improve linux, than i sure we could see some good competition between the RGB equation.

Holdup are the settings in these clips at 2:46 really the same graphical quality between the a580 and the rx 6600? Because to my eyes I can see a definite visual difference between the two of them. To me the graphics from the AMD card looks SIGNIFICANTLY better than the output from the Intel card. (I am able to better see the texture in the skin of the little girl). @Vex The eyes also seem to have quite a bit more detail.

6:35 what soundtrack is playing in the background?

7:30 I think it's because junk shop uses EEVEE render engine, which based on opengl

I picked my a580 up at a sale of 160 bucks, and it's the asrock version. Working quite well!

Heya vex I'm on an i7 6700k 970gtx strix ATM. I can do low to medium settings in rdr2... with about 30 fps. I'm playing eve online and multibox 4 accounts... and I wanna play the new games and eve online in 1440p... what would be your recommendation?

Arc 750 is at about 200 usd so arc 580 should be way cheaper, though its definitely because of drivers that arc 580 is not doing well in some of the games. Also I wonder if intel will come up with their own frame generation

@notrixamoris3318

8 ай бұрын

ERP is $180...and A750 is on sale for $185 until tomorrow.

@DKTD23

8 ай бұрын

@@notrixamoris3318 which site is doing 185?

@major_mapache7392

8 ай бұрын

XeSS is intels frame gen, just not in many games so far. Vex has some videos comparing it

@arenzricodexd4409

8 ай бұрын

@@major_mapache7392 XeSS is more like DLSS. intel still does not have something similar to frame gen.

@riven4121

7 ай бұрын

@@major_mapache7392 XeSS in its current form is upscaling not frame generation. Intel do not currently have an answer to Nvidia's frame generation or AMD's Fluid Motion Frames.

Now I can have full blue set up

A rx 6600 is still the way to go especially in the use market since you can find them locally and online for anywhere from $140 to $165.

@delfinigor

8 ай бұрын

RX 5700 XT used costs 120 euros. The RX 5700 XT is on par with the RX 6600 XT.

@alexisjavier84

8 ай бұрын

@@delfinigor even better then

@delfinigor

8 ай бұрын

@@tek1645 I personally know 3 people who have Sapphire PULS RX 5700 XT. Another one that has a NITRO version. And they didn't tell me that they had any problems with her.

@tapsofosiris3110

8 ай бұрын

@@delfinigor No fsr3 or fluid motion frames though.

@appsaucetech

8 ай бұрын

5700xt will perform slightly better for around 120-130 so if you want use just go with that

depends where you look man. i got my ARC A750 for dirt cheap it was $286 CAD

I mean, I paid $250 for my mint EVGA FTW 3070 on ebay. Runs everything I want at ultra settings, and handles all my video rendering and AI generation needs. So far.

Idk why you didn't mention that GPU frequency jumps all over from 2100mhz to 2400mhz?

The A580 is the beast value card right now.

2 years and i still cant find any arc card in my country lol

Why is the Ram usage So High on A580 system??

i main a 6600 with a 1440p monitor, honestly does pretty well and somehow a lil better then whats shown here, mainly on comp games so i can achieve high refresh rates.

@meko264

8 ай бұрын

Same here, with the Rx 6600. There's a lot more to PC gaming than just framerate. Frame timing, stability, consistency is unacceptable on Intel.

weird how Intel are so generous with memory bus width for their cards but on my a370m laptop the bus width is half that of the rtx 3050, wtf?

Which one of the RX cards would be the equivalent of a 3090ti?

Does it require rebar like the a770?

@user-jm6qf9hd9j

8 ай бұрын

Yep. The entry-level A380 also requires it.

Finally some market diversity 🙌

$199 from 2016 for a 1060 3gb is honestly a shit deal. In todays money that’s $250. Why does everyone forget about inflation?

The 1060 launched at 250$ in 2016, inflation over the last 7 years has been roughly 25 percent. 250$ times 1.25 is 312.5. Not really sure what I’m missing, other than the fact that the 4060 is not the best deal.

@princekatana8792

8 ай бұрын

Exactly, opinions like this always make me shake my head as inflation exists

@carlosamado7606

8 ай бұрын

Consider that a 4060 is a 4050. I have a 3070 and still beats it easily. Thus a 50 series card in performance is more expensive than a 60 card by a wide margin

@osopenowsstudio9175

8 ай бұрын

The problem is the performance of 4060 is more like 4050 level for it's generation, unless it's priced like 200$, 4060 is expensive for what it offered

@ZaHandle

8 ай бұрын

Well the “4060” is just a rebadged 4050 with minimum generational improvement (and somehow it lost VRAM capacity???)

@user-xf5uh2rh6b

8 ай бұрын

I just don’t agree with the sentiment that their aren’t any good value budget GPUs. Unless you HAVE to get a nvidia card, than yea not very good deals for the lower end stuff right now.

DOSBox doesn't work with the Intel Arc cards anymore since about 4 months ago with driver 4676, and Intel doesn't seem to be interested in fixing that. Keep that in mind before you get an Arc GPU.

What 16 pins power connection on thir arc? For what?

10 years ago a budget GPU meant that you would get less performance than the expensive ones Today a budget Gpu means inconsistent performance and a big chance that games will simply not even launch

So can we say that A580 is a great successor of the RX 580?

One thing to also note is that these are all FULL SIZE cards. Even the A580 is a nuisance with its design because it's the only cheap card that has gotten me interested because of the AV1 encoder. If these things were able to fit in a SFF or 2U case, I guarantee they would be flying off the shelves because I would be using them in everything.

Would you say that Intel GFX cards do video editing as good or better than AMD or NVIDIA?

@dreamzornot

8 ай бұрын

Must not be better than RTX series

Used market for the win, where cards like the 5700XT exist.

Gamemeld made a video recently about a 7600XT 16gb that could come

Do I see it correctly, that the A580 uses more v+dram ? Even more than 8gb which it has

@vextakes

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s odd, but always does that

dose intel have not canceled the a580?

They didn't forget they're trying to get rid of all the old stock but they're stopping support which is ridiculous so nobody wants to buy them.

When is Battlemage Arc gpu launching. I am waiting because a750 power consumption is a little high.

@janbenes3165

8 ай бұрын

At best at the end of the next year.

Here's a question. How long did this hardware sit in storage because the a770's were manufactured Feb 22.

@vextakes

8 ай бұрын

Prolly a while as the a750 price has been dropping and making it hard to slot the new card in

feels weird to say this, but i hope they get 1/3 of the marketshare one day

How are these cards for emulation ? Rpcs3, PCSX2, dolphin, CEMU, Yuzu xenia and many more. Not that you need an amazing GPU to run emulators but just wanted to know.

THE A750 ORC OC Edition IS $190 ON newegg NOW ???

Inflation works faster for GPU companies, it seems like

Could you try an intel card to do stable diffusion ?

Hope the street price is cheaper. You can get an a750 for 190 on a good day

Weird pricing on the 580. Why not spend the extra 20 or 30 bucks and get the 750? Wish the 580 came in around the 140 or 150 price point.

the a580 is a new card give it time for intel optimize their drivers

does rx6600 support asmf tho , idk if all 6000series support is real or not

arc needs native support from microsoft to get off the ground. it performs well but has serious draw backs. doesn't want to load bios, or safe mode, and you cant do a fresh install of windows with an arc card because it isn't supported. that may not be the biggest deal to enthusiast but it is a huge problem when you think about over all adoption. I also don't think that intel cards will stay as cheap as they are forever. I think the price is low because people are having to deal with the jank of it. I have a 2nd system that i built just to play with an Arc A770. getting it up and running would have been impossible had i not had a gtx 1660 laying around to do basic install and bios changes

@tumultoustortellini

8 ай бұрын

Wait really? I think you might have just saved me. money.

@reaper117nobody7

8 ай бұрын

@@tumultoustortellini it is really a pain in the butt. I like the performance of it as a gpu but i cant recommend it to anyone that wants a smooth transition. It is more of a hobbyist thing in its current implementation. It is good once it is running but getting it to that point is frusterating.

If they keep ironing out those "broken" games with some driver updates, the A580 is great value! only drawback then is the powerdraw...

i wish amd just called the rx 7500 the rx 7600 and priced them competitively they might actually get market share

If possible, get the A750, best value in the lower segment.

Well ... games requirement are also unreasonably high.

Not sure why everyone is freaking out over the price other than everyone esle is way over charging. It's only $10 less than a A750 to boot (at least on Amazon). Though if it goes down another $10-20 soonish that would be good, not great, but good.

Yeah but Intel needs to upgrade those VGA Bioses if they want to hold the comparison and the better choice discussion. AMD still rules with performance/price. Better thermal control and power consumption too (which for me, is included into the performances segment). I feel the next generation of Arc will start to be really interesting.

Still loving how my a770 gets better with every driver update.

Intel said that their cards would have 10% more perf at 10% of the price and now it is starting to be true

showcasing the 3gb version of the 1060 as a good budget option is a stretch and the 6gb version already cost 250$ for the founders the 4060 at least puts you in in that realm of the "budget king" 1060

Lol you see that power draw on the a580 FOR WHAT.

But doesn't it use emulation for anything lower than DX11? I'd love to see how the A580 handles DX9-10 games because most folks aren't going to only play games released in the last 6 months, hell I've been playing some Borderlands I (Gotta play Zombie Island of Dr Ned for Halloween!), Bioshock I, even some classic Far Cry but from what I hear Intel cards absolutely suck at anything that isn't DX11/12.

Gtx 1070: I can handle 1440p native any AAA game when I released. Rtx 4070: I suffering with slow vram and I do not have enough vram, I am sorry to be unplayable at native 1440p in AAA games. For every generation it's getting worse and worse, GPUs does not have performance any more and have to pay +1500€ for good experience when back in the day we could run anything with a 500€ GPU. We do nor need dlss/fsr they just have to improve GPUs.

@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis

8 ай бұрын

Well the games look like cráp, games are becoming harder to render Is like saying a gt9800 was able to run 4k back than (example don't know) Yes but it was like 10 pixel graphicss😅

@HunterTracks

8 ай бұрын

To be fair, that's less to do with GPUs and more to do with crap optimization of the current AAA market. Not to say that the current gen of cards is good, but it's not the main issue. Just think about it: we've reached the point in time when Cyberpunk 2077, the game that was banned on PS Store due to being unplayable on last gen consoles, is considered well-optimized. We have games that were ported from the fucking PS3 that are barely playable without at least 12 GB of VRAM. New games that don't make $500 cards crap their pants at native 1440p are considered a legit triumph.