They don't think I was being fair...

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Corsair doesn't feel that I was very fair in regards to my opinion of their new Hybrid waterblock. So today I decided to plumb it into a loop and see if my predictions are correct...
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  • @SchmityFPV
    @SchmityFPV8 ай бұрын

    Would have to agree, the card looked so much better with the stock air cooler.

  • @RaveDaver

    @RaveDaver

    8 ай бұрын

    Let's not forget that cleaning this tiny fan inside a plastic case with tubes attached is going to be unnecessary more difficult. The stock triple fans ramps up at startup to "clean" itself. Because the 0% speed out the box settings under x-degree.

  • @LDFilmsMotorsport

    @LDFilmsMotorsport

    8 ай бұрын

    Looks like it was made in 2008

  • @cadcad-jm3pf

    @cadcad-jm3pf

    8 ай бұрын

    With AIO it looks like a card straight from 2005.

  • @VerGiLL1

    @VerGiLL1

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@RaveDaverWait is that true ? I always found it weird that it did that.

  • @RaveDaver

    @RaveDaver

    8 ай бұрын

    @@VerGiLL1 At boot up the GPU fan settings(if you use software) aren't loaded so they go full blast.😁

  • @danielhulan3058
    @danielhulan30588 ай бұрын

    You were not harsh. You were honest. It only looks good in the vertical position. That's all you said. You said nothing about performance. You were right Jay!

  • @danielhulan3058

    @danielhulan3058

    8 ай бұрын

    And let's be real. When you buy these things, looks do come into play a lot.

  • @dobbi6083

    @dobbi6083

    8 ай бұрын

    Doesn't even look that good in a vertical position personally, almost gives me that really old passive cooled gpu vibes visually

  • @danielhulan3058

    @danielhulan3058

    8 ай бұрын

    Or old school gpus that don't have full cover shrouds! Your right!

  • @danielhulan3058

    @danielhulan3058

    8 ай бұрын

    Also this is through open bench setup. Think if this was in say a Hyte Y60. Horrible temps.

  • @ThatRandomMan1

    @ThatRandomMan1

    8 ай бұрын

    I have custom cooled a few GPU's Always gotta throw on some vrm heatsinks. With any cooler just about it. Full cover water block? The way to go.

  • @shiba7651
    @shiba76518 ай бұрын

    The worst part of the product is the fact that for the price of watercooling your 4070ti you can get a 4080 which will be faster and you can undervolt it to be as quiet

  • @wawaweewa9159

    @wawaweewa9159

    8 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 somepeople r idiots so why not take their money too

  • @RonaldMcdonaldTheThird

    @RonaldMcdonaldTheThird

    8 ай бұрын

    Then for an extra £300, you can buy a 4090. Pricing on the high end is insanely stupid ATM.

  • @heatnup6899

    @heatnup6899

    8 ай бұрын

    It always bothers me when people with lower tier systems watercool. People need to get their priorities straight. If you are willing to build a pc with hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of watercooling equipment...just forgo the watercooling and buy a higher tier card

  • @Simon-tr9hv

    @Simon-tr9hv

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@heatnup6899literally, even if you get one tier lower like 4080, like why bother spending 300 dollars custom soft tubing it when you could have gotten 4090

  • @MyouKyuubi

    @MyouKyuubi

    7 ай бұрын

    You could also just buy a RX 6800XT, and you'll get the same performance as a 4070, that's as silent as the grave... And is cheaper. xD

  • @mammothkiwi
    @mammothkiwi8 ай бұрын

    This is 100% spot on. If priced much lower it would make more sense, but you also need to consider the opportunity cost of the rad, pump, fittings etc. For another $23 it's much better to get a full block

  • @andresgallego5727

    @andresgallego5727

    8 ай бұрын

    If you already have a loop and you are replacing the graphics card and you end up paying 1200 for a 4080 I might want to get a decent block asap that does the job to get my card under water, the issue is this product is not priced in that way, it needs to be 50$ cheaper to make sense, you can get a full block from another brand for a similar price.

  • @medic-chan

    @medic-chan

    8 ай бұрын

    Your use of opportunity cost implies that someone would purchase a water block in lieu of a rad, pump, fittings etc Opportunity cost refers to what you have to give up to buy what you want in terms of other goods or services. I think you're trying to talk about sunk cost? Or maybe just cost? Like: If your loop is already an additional $300-400 on top of your build you might as well spend the extra $23 for a real full block.

  • @mammothkiwi

    @mammothkiwi

    8 ай бұрын

    @@medic-chan I am not an economist but what I was trying to say is that the return/value on a higher end full cover water block is subjectively higher (aesthetics, temp) than choosing a cheap water block when you factor the price difference into the total cost of going custom water. The total cost being much higher due to the sunk cost of other components like rads, fittings, pump and res

  • @mammothkiwi

    @mammothkiwi

    8 ай бұрын

    @@andresgallego5727 yep fully agree. It's just doesn't make sense given to price difference between a full cover block given the overall cost of going custom water

  • @jepulis6674

    @jepulis6674

    7 ай бұрын

    And you can just upgrade the fans on the air cooler for like less than a 3rd of the price of the block alone.

  • @AngelXjp
    @AngelXjp8 ай бұрын

    I agree with you Jay. I'm shocked that Corsair put their name on this product though. It looks like hot garbage. I would not put that in my case. I understand what they were trying to accomplish, but honestly a GPU is not a trivial component to cool. Especially these days. I can't even recommend this for a budget office GPU because this is overkill for such a low performance part. This product simply shouldn't exist. You can either do cooling right or not at all. This product I predict will lead to an early death of a GPU if used.

  • @MeshMN

    @MeshMN

    8 ай бұрын

    Good thing no one will buy it - why we love objective reviewers.

  • @andrewvirtue5048

    @andrewvirtue5048

    8 ай бұрын

    Trial and error lead to innovation.

  • @generalawareness101

    @generalawareness101

    8 ай бұрын

    Which block is better, the Bykski, or the Alphacool? I have read the Alphacool has isses (4090 AMP owner here).

  • @Nemesis-pe7mw

    @Nemesis-pe7mw

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MeshMN An objective reviewer? First off a objective HUMAN does not exist. Second he scored a cooler on it's looks. Which is weird since OBJECTIVELY speaking a coolers main function is to cool something, not to look cool. How "good" or "bad" something looks is purely subjective.

  • @benjaminsmekens2344

    @benjaminsmekens2344

    8 ай бұрын

    @@generalawareness101 I've had a 4090 AMP extreme since launch last September, and have had Bykski block on it for about half a year. Performed very well with no issues, because I changed cases and went to a larger rad surface, dual pump, and delidded 7950x configuration I changed the Bykski block to an EK one. There is zero performance difference but the blacked out "boxy" look matched the rest of the build so went with it purely for esthetics. The Bykski block cost me around 90$ + back plate, can't beat that :D

  • @Retadin
    @Retadin8 ай бұрын

    I agree, that looks pretty terrible, and the price is insane.

  • @DerangedCoconut808
    @DerangedCoconut8088 ай бұрын

    the card with the waterblock looks like the old dinky plastic stock heatsink cooling solutions from 20 years ago. its looks cheap especially when its so much smaller than the PCB. and not having a daisychain passthrough for the corsair ecosystem (how much more difficult would it of been to run everything through one controller block) is an oversight for such an expensive product. its a great beta product at most in my opinion.

  • @Daveyc264
    @Daveyc2648 ай бұрын

    Would be nice to see it go against that 150 dollar full coverage cooler. As for the Corsair 1. If you said it was a no name thing from Amazon for 50 dollar, I would of believed you

  • @constantinesoldatos

    @constantinesoldatos

    8 ай бұрын

    I second this!!! Would love to see that comparison.

  • @MeshMN

    @MeshMN

    8 ай бұрын

    This is a cringe product from Corsair - frankly surprised they went with it. It literally has no market the way it is priced. for 50 bucks maybe but not for the same money as standard water cooling loops would be.

  • @rustler08

    @rustler08

    8 ай бұрын

    Honestly, this review shows how pointless it is. That's a lot of money and risk to drop 8 degrees. Granted, an Alphacool block would probably be sitting in the 30 degree range, MAYBE 40, but is it even worth it on this GPU?

  • @Weneedaplague

    @Weneedaplague

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rustler08 it's all about your usage. If it's going to be at 100% all day then yeah the card needs beefier cooling even if it's not a flagship expensive model. The closer you can get to idle functions the longer the product will last.

  • @ano_nym

    @ano_nym

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Weneedaplague I honestly want to do a water cooling build just for looks. I don't really care about performance. From that standpoint it could definitively be worth getting a waterblock even for this card.

  • @scoundrel6778
    @scoundrel67788 ай бұрын

    It does look very bulbous. If you didn't mention it was from Corsair, I would have never guessed, any parts I've gotten from them look sharp and rigid. They should make a full cover one instead

  • @DenKonZenith

    @DenKonZenith

    8 ай бұрын

    Or just go ultra-minimalistic; bare card with a metal cube on it has SOME aesthetic appeal to it.

  • @kylewitzel3540

    @kylewitzel3540

    8 ай бұрын

    Buy the full cover water block. I want to see it

  • @MotoGoato
    @MotoGoato8 ай бұрын

    I would 100% pay the extra $23 for the full cover block with backplate .. it would be worth it for the aesthetics alone, the fact the fcb would also perform a little better too is just a bonus. That corsair block makes the card look like it stepped out of the mid 1990s

  • @wolf16731
    @wolf167318 ай бұрын

    I share the same philosophy. Full cover or nothing. And even if it's "just a lower tier card, doesn't need a full cover" my thoughts say you could have taken that $120 and bumped up to the next higher tier of card and gotten way more performance for the money.

  • @stereoman.
    @stereoman.8 ай бұрын

    The long term risk to the VRM's is not worth it even if they lowered the price to $79.99, this thing is just not fit for purpose and Jay I can see you tried really hard to be fair but I wouldn't risk an $800 GPU to save any amount of money,, anyway enjoyed the review keep it up!

  • @rustler08

    @rustler08

    8 ай бұрын

    They could lower the price to $0 and it wouldn't be worth it. Think about it, it's $150 for a good block from Alphacool, give or take who you buy from. Then you realize that you're dropping $400-500 in rad, pump, tubes, fittings, reservoir, etc. So, that $150 block only represents 27% of your water cooling budget. Meanwhile, you've now got a GPU running in a way it was never designed to, because there's not a single 4070 Ti out there running bare VRMs in stock form, and it is highly likely that it will fail prematurely due to heat from the VRMs. If not thermal throttle if you game for long periods. Hard pass, even if it were freee.

  • @Seandude05

    @Seandude05

    8 ай бұрын

    70C for VRMs is nothing.

  • @bradtraq1
    @bradtraq18 ай бұрын

    Forget function over form when you're spending water cooling kind of money on a pc, it has to work well AND look cool, for me personally.

  • @tonirak241

    @tonirak241

    8 ай бұрын

    Watercooling is for performance not aestethic, yes it does look cool when done correctly but the main idea behind was always for performance

  • @MeshMN

    @MeshMN

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tonirak241 Remind me never to have you build me a PC, ty. LOL aesthetics matter to more people than not. If one can make the build look good for the SAME money and performance - you seriously think the choice is going to be hot garbage?

  • @tonirak241

    @tonirak241

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MeshMN aesthetic matters to everybody, but function comes first, if its functional then you take care of the aesthetic, not the other way around, if you prefer something that doesn't work but just look good then you are stupid

  • @Gnarfendorf

    @Gnarfendorf

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@MeshMNyes, and i get 20% more fps when i activate all the rgb on my PC...

  • @Th3Fly1ngCow

    @Th3Fly1ngCow

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tonirak241I’d argue with how good coolers are water cooling is more for looks these days unless your chasing 3D mark scores

  • @tushoo4938
    @tushoo49388 ай бұрын

    Would have loved to see it compared to a full cover water block. I suspect Corsair wouldn't have liked to see that.

  • @thescrub5001
    @thescrub50018 ай бұрын

    To be fair they did send you a lot of things at once to look at all at once. The looks are just that looks. Personal opinion. As for price to performance you are absolutely right that they priced them selves out of the market. If someone is going to spend the time and money on a custom loop chances are they are not going to try and save a couple dollars on a cooler like this instead of a full block cooler.

  • @goldenhate6649

    @goldenhate6649

    3 ай бұрын

    Thats corsair for you...not to mention I haven't been personally happy with their quality for a few years.

  • @TotemSP2
    @TotemSP28 ай бұрын

    It really takes me back to when video cards didn't have cooling shrouds, and just had a cooler sitting on the card. To tell you how long ago that was, the Radeon HD 4870 did have a shroud and blower fan, but mine from Gigabyte had a big Zalman Fan cooler on it and no shroud. And also Zalman were a thing. Edit: I see you know what i'm talking about.

  • @goldenhate6649

    @goldenhate6649

    3 ай бұрын

    Shoot, my 1050ti had a shroud. Card cost as much as this entire block. Absolute stupidity.

  • @sinchuon1550
    @sinchuon15508 ай бұрын

    I just got the eisblock for my 4070ti and I don’t regret it after seeing Corsair’s. Even if alphacool’s version is $25 more, you get more contact including the vrm, a backplate, better aesthetic and don’t have to worry as much about dust build up. Simply put, if I had to choose, I’d still pay that extra $25 for the eisblock just for that piece of mind

  • @Crunkmaster

    @Crunkmaster

    7 ай бұрын

    watercooling a 4070 is a strange move

  • @blakslee720
    @blakslee7208 ай бұрын

    This takes me back to my r9 290. I got one of those NZXT brackets that adapted a CPU AIO to the GPU, which was actually a lot better value. I think back then, I got a 120 AIO and the next bracket for no more that $100. This thing is $130, no pump, no rad :(

  • @miskammon

    @miskammon

    8 ай бұрын

    I bought a ID-Cooling 120mm AIO for my 1070, it was around $40.

  • @vinak963

    @vinak963

    8 ай бұрын

    GamersNexus did a video on attaching an AIO to a 1080 ti. I copied that with my gpu. AIO or "hybrid" cooling for under 80 bucks.

  • @shofla
    @shofla8 ай бұрын

    Even vertically installed- it looks like an early 2000's card with the visible cooler : PCB ratio

  • @Sgt_SealCluber
    @Sgt_SealCluber8 ай бұрын

    Personally I'm of the opinion that water cooling anything below the 80 class nvidia cards, unless you already have a loop, is silly. Use the money you would spend on the block and loop to upgrade to a 4080 or 7900xtx.

  • @thierryfaquet7405

    @thierryfaquet7405

    8 ай бұрын

    Watercooling any GPU is silly. I understand people doing it for the look, or in some case for space gain in custom looped itx. But it’s still silly. Huge waste of money.

  • @Sgt_SealCluber

    @Sgt_SealCluber

    8 ай бұрын

    @@thierryfaquet7405 With GPU air coolers being better and the cards being pushed to their limits already not leaving OC headroom, water cooling is more about acoustics. I was going to mention how already water blocked GPUs are a good value at the high-end, but the prices on the water blocked 40 series cards is just stupid. My 1080ti with a water block was basically the price of a reference 1080ti and a water block. And with that I got a factory OC'd card that if it was air cooled would have been close to the same price. Though like I said this seems to be a thing of the past with the 40 series. They all seem to want to push AIO'd cards.

  • @koza2
    @koza28 ай бұрын

    Maybe Arctic's old GPU Accelero solution would've worked to add to the kit. The addition of the mini heatsinks and heatsink backplate I mean.

  • @reinulf656

    @reinulf656

    3 ай бұрын

    Those always fell off after 1 to 2 years :) I had an accelero on a HD 4850 back in the days, great thing.

  • @davidsmith4186
    @davidsmith41868 ай бұрын

    If it were metal I'd be all in. Like you pointed out the screws going into plastic to hold the cold plate on. No go for me.

  • @lonelysdomain
    @lonelysdomain8 ай бұрын

    i am a corsair fanboy. i love their products as im running everything that can be corsair is corsair in my build...minus the monitor cuz i built my pc a few months before they announced the xeneon monitor. however im inclined to agree with you. that waterblock is fugly as sin. its just way too small and doesnt do a good enough of a job for the price point.

  • @AustnTok
    @AustnTok8 ай бұрын

    I've been talking about this thing since we heard about it and I was so surprised that corsair would release it! They obviously care a lot about aesthetics, but when it came to their GPU water block, all aesthetics went out the window. It looks so bad! I don't care if it could magically turn my 4080 into a 4090, I still wouldn't use it.

  • @tylerbuhite5432
    @tylerbuhite54328 ай бұрын

    Thanks for being the honest staple in this rollercoaster of a community Jay, Appreciate you!

  • @patrickhill8494
    @patrickhill84948 ай бұрын

    Question: How do you get comfortable installing liquid coolers? I'm looking at building my next desktop, which will be both for gaming and for workstation tasks for architecture and rendering programs, and think I may want to use a liquid cooler. However, I am terrified of fucking it up and killing all of my components >.>

  • @kevinroosa1315
    @kevinroosa13158 ай бұрын

    Including little VRM heatsinks (with thermal tape) in the box would go a long way in making this a better product. They're only ~10c each in bulk.

  • @GamesplayChris42
    @GamesplayChris428 ай бұрын

    Seeing it on the card it reminds me of the Kraken G12 AIO adaptor NZXT made awhile back. Also not very good looking but again it was a universal adaptor.

  • @dingding8714
    @dingding87148 ай бұрын

    the interesting thing is when they announced this new product line earlier this year, there was a full cover XG7 iQue link block. it has seemingly been removed from their website since launch (I assume to force people to buy the hybrid blocks) I was going to upgrade all of my Corsair ecosystem to link but not now if I have to use that hybrid block

  • @Drovek451
    @Drovek4518 ай бұрын

    I'd have loved to see a comparison with it running with the (ridiculously large) backplate, just to see if there was any difference after the temperature stabilized.

  • @TotalDbag24

    @TotalDbag24

    8 ай бұрын

    Main problem with that is the things the backplate helps doesn't have temperature monitors.

  • @toddbrewer683
    @toddbrewer6838 ай бұрын

    Nope, not too harsh. That is why we listen to you. We value YOUR opinion.

  • @boosted94sc300
    @boosted94sc3008 ай бұрын

    i agree 100%. it looks like something that should be a cheap alternative to an ek full block setup but its not. its only a little less and doesnt look good at all. that price it should have an active back plate.

  • @DKarkarov
    @DKarkarov8 ай бұрын

    Funny you mentioned old Zalman CPU coolers, looking at this thing I thought "this looks like something from the early 2000's...". But yeah I recently got a alpha cool 4090 full cover block with backplate and it was like... 170? This thing costs way too much for what it is, but then.... it is corsair. In other news you know who has an open frame water cooling test set up with quick disconnects.... derbauer... you should be more like derbauer Jay.

  • @NPurvis7622
    @NPurvis76228 ай бұрын

    The NZXT 20-30 dollar frame to attach an AIO to a GPU was, and still is, such a better value. Not to mention that bracket with a Fractal Design 360 AIO on a 1080TI ran RE4 Remake flawlessly. Sure, hotter than my 3080TI on a full custom loop, but it chugged along. That little thing Corsair made is.. a weird homage to that, I feel. I hope NZXT brings that bracket back.

  • @NoMorePlz
    @NoMorePlz8 ай бұрын

    When you first showed the cooler on the card it reminded me of budget cards from the early 2000s. Maybe I'm just used to EKWB since that's all I use.

  • @FishCZ
    @FishCZ8 ай бұрын

    Im more interested in that pump reservoir combo. in which video Jay talked about it? :) also. isnt placement pump res combo so close to the fans reducing its effectiveness?thks for answers

  • @marshall104
    @marshall1048 ай бұрын

    The designer of this is obviously a really big fan of old (early 2000s) single fan GPUs.

  • @T51B1
    @T51B18 ай бұрын

    I think it costs too much when it isn't a full cover block, and even then it's dubious. If I'm going to watercool an $800+ GPU then I would spend the extra bit of money to get a full cover block. I understand that Corsair is trying to push into a segment of more affordable watercooling, but IMO if they want to do that they should just make an aluminum open loop kit like EK made.

  • @imo098765

    @imo098765

    8 ай бұрын

    Corsair did make a open loop kit a few years ago, Jay did a review of it on the channel too

  • @RobTheSquire
    @RobTheSquire8 ай бұрын

    This block is more for older cards that you want to convert to being water-cooled that don't have heatsinks on vrms etc.

  • @seriphim8542
    @seriphim85428 ай бұрын

    I went with a Suprim Liquid X, a hybrid, card to fit in my lian li o11d. At idle the thing sits at 31c, under load it never breaks 55c boosting to 3ghz with a bit of an overclock. Main reason this generation is just size. The stock coolers are a pain to fit in any mid tower case. Especially with the clearance for the 12vhpwr connector required. Being a hybrid card from the factory I think is the difference. The cooler is designed for this card specifically. That being said I did try the evga hybrid kit for my 3080 10g. The memory temps on it were just awful though. Constantly above 90c under load. The plate for that cooler 1. not being monolithic and 2. being so thin just was a bad design. For years I have thought about building a custom loop but upgrading piecemeal and passing those parts down through the house, not to mention moving often, has always stopped me. I don't think I've had a static build in a PC for more than three years at this point. But all my parts get cycled through three, soon to be four, machines in the house before they're out to retirement. Long story short I don't think there is necessarily a problem with hybrid cards perse, given proper design. But an aftermarket solution like this is definitely going to perform worse.

  • @richard_d_bird
    @richard_d_bird8 ай бұрын

    fan sticker is slightly off center which drives me insane

  • @miniminimini3626
    @miniminimini36268 ай бұрын

    so glad you used the right gpu unlike someone else…

  • @Brabant076
    @Brabant0768 ай бұрын

    That sticker being off-center is killing me lmao 12:45

  • @Pzero619
    @Pzero6197 ай бұрын

    I don't know if someone already mentioned it, but with the 90 degree Icue cable the fitting and 14mm hardline tube fits. You just got to plug it in first then add fitting etc

  • @alderoth01
    @alderoth018 ай бұрын

    I agree with you just like everyone else. I don't see this being worth $129.00 when the better option isn't very much higher and keeps the back plate on like you said. This seems like a part for someone that wants water cooled, but can't afford the really nice super water cooled look. $69 would be a much better price on something like this.

  • @greggreg2458

    @greggreg2458

    8 ай бұрын

    I paid 159€ for a full cover chrome plated copper waterblock from Alphacool.

  • @jrhowrey
    @jrhowrey8 ай бұрын

    Did you test it prior to disassembling it or did you reassemble it and then test it.. should have tested it prior that way you can take any user error out of your end and place it on the manufacturer that's how gamers Nexus does it... Not saying they're the only game in town but I think that's the right way to do it

  • @MrPuddinJones
    @MrPuddinJones8 ай бұрын

    the price does not match, you are absolutely correct. i agree with your $60-$70 price point might be attractive- but even then- not having full coverage, components can wear faster due to increased temps.

  • @KwaPaN3R
    @KwaPaN3R8 ай бұрын

    The fact that this thing is 150€ here in Germany really makes me mad. My alphacool 7900xtx block was 200€ but it‘s a 2kg block of solid nickelplated copper and no screws into plastic…

  • @akalia_07
    @akalia_078 ай бұрын

    Not at all. You can't always say good thing about the products without telling the consumers that it may have issues, needs improvements, etc. You were being honest so I don't see the problem at all. Final result: oooooof...... get full waterblock for your gpu, not this one!

  • @lucifermorningstar2505
    @lucifermorningstar25058 ай бұрын

    See Linus this is how you correctly test a water block with the right component

  • @ashleybarnes9343

    @ashleybarnes9343

    8 ай бұрын

    No need man, it was funny ill give you that, but theirs no need, linus has admitted that he was wrong for doing that, he owned up to his mistake just let it go, tho you did get a chuckle outta me 😂

  • @lucifermorningstar2505

    @lucifermorningstar2505

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ashleybarnes9343 you mean his apology vid that was monetize to try to make money off it and have fake sponsors and advertising his products and not showing up till the end

  • @ashleybarnes9343

    @ashleybarnes9343

    8 ай бұрын

    @lucifermorningstar2505 you mean the apology vid that they very quickly unmonitized and the joke sponsors to quite literally annoy people like you?? Yeah sure

  • @lucifermorningstar2505

    @lucifermorningstar2505

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ashleybarnes9343 it makes it like a joke apology and not a real one

  • @zencontroller
    @zencontroller8 ай бұрын

    I would of used that back plate as they actually work well. The whole thing dissapates hot air. Back plate will probably lower temps on the core about 3degrees. On my last Asus RTX3090 it benefited.

  • @illegalmexicain
    @illegalmexicain8 ай бұрын

    Screws that screws directly in the plastic speaks volume... they cheaped out.

  • @Terry3Gs
    @Terry3Gs8 ай бұрын

    @JayzTwoCents ... great job on this ... BUT .. there is another thing you didnt factor into this ... does the fan part of the gpu cooler hang low too much that it would interfere with a M.2 Drive with a heatsink on it as you know most manufactorers place the 2nd M.2 drive slot for some reason directly under the gpu primary slot.

  • @ChrisGR93_TxS
    @ChrisGR93_TxS8 ай бұрын

    full cover waterblocks provide safety. Secures the pcb on all corners and keeps the card straight. Might sound silly but over time pcbs start bending and cracking connections

  • @arclyte1859
    @arclyte18598 ай бұрын

    That sticker wobble would drive me crazy!

  • @EverGameStudios
    @EverGameStudios3 ай бұрын

    As someone who want to get into water cooling now, and I was looking at the corsair link staff. is it possible to have a GPU block from another brand that would hook up to the corsair staff, or is it one brand or the other kind of deal?

  • @trinitygames5537
    @trinitygames55378 ай бұрын

    Seeing the water block on the gpu kinda reminds me of some old gpu coolers from early 2000 🤣

  • @matthewbarrios1028
    @matthewbarrios10288 ай бұрын

    The NZXT add dead middle of this Corsair product review was class. 🤣 🤣

  • @bitgod
    @bitgod8 ай бұрын

    Zalman cooler, yes! That's what I was thinking too. TBF on the price...that's often a Corsair thing, that things are premium priced whether it's worth it or not.

  • @UnknownEntity420
    @UnknownEntity4208 ай бұрын

    Seeing as I know you are also a car guy, perhaps you could have used a feeler gauge to check the thickness of the water block fins, and the gap between them too? Just something I thought to share. Thanks J2C and team for the always great content :)

  • @helstromh
    @helstromh8 ай бұрын

    The only benefit I see this has over the air cooler version, is that it allows you to install a 40-series card in a "smaller" case, at least from front to back...

  • @gr3y5had0w
    @gr3y5had0w8 ай бұрын

    Hey Jay. Can you add a thermometer to your setup for us to see during those thermal tests? It hard to compare your temperatures to mine if I don't know the ambient temperature of your environment. Thanks!

  • @CheekSplitter
    @CheekSplitter6 ай бұрын

    I tried this on a 4090 and was surprised. The preinstalled thermal pads were inhibiting die contact which lead to crazy temps. After a re-paste and removal of thermal pad material between the die and vrm, it performed very well. I added small heatsinks to the back side for about $10 just for the hell of it. Honestly, I'd prefer something like this over a custom water block. They should just add a small backplate to the mounting solution to help with thermals and aesthetics...

  • @83Sogron
    @83Sogron8 ай бұрын

    Full water block, or stock/original air for the vga, what to do with the other stuff, put 3 kg Al heatsinks for the rest, or what was the conception?

  • @Voodoo.
    @Voodoo.8 ай бұрын

    Hold up does that little cable in the box mean you can control a corsair rgb block straight from the mobo without the need for one of their lighting node things?

  • @aeternosolus52
    @aeternosolus528 ай бұрын

    As always, a good honest review of a product, and I would totally pay the extra few dollars for a full cover block as well. Thanks Jay 👍

  • @turtuhl
    @turtuhl8 ай бұрын

    Scientifically, you had no baseline for the VRAM temp with the stock setup. So, how can you imply that they were hotter with the Corsair cooler?

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG8 ай бұрын

    LOL... thanks for mentioning those slot-coolers. That Corsair-block immediately reminded me of some HW-component of yore, I just wasn't quite sure which one it was. Extra points for mentioning those Zalman-coolers. Not sure if they were the ones you meant, but I had one of their "flower"-design CPU coolers (and its GPU counterpart) back in the days of...err... the P4 and Radeon 9500/9700, I believe? The ones where a horizontally mounted fan was sitting inside a circular fin-stack. Not sure if they were any better than contemporary coolers, but I did like their quirky look and design back then.

  • @premise187
    @premise1875 ай бұрын

    I love your honesty no matter what product you are reviewing. It's rare today to find influencers being honest about products because they are scared that they will lose sponsors. This is why I always come back to your channel. Keep doing what you do.

  • @Zildjian867
    @Zildjian8678 ай бұрын

    These are my favorite kind of videos! Testing videos always cause me to end up on pcpartpicker lol..

  • @dagamore
    @dagamore4 ай бұрын

    way back in the early 2000's like 2004ish time frame the zalman full copper flowers were great for doing near silent setup for home theater builds.

  • @pi6400
    @pi6400Ай бұрын

    Hello Sir i enjoyed your video and was wondering if there is a water block for asus rtx 4070 (not TI) oc gaming? can you please advise and thank you for your time

  • @BigHelpEnergy
    @BigHelpEnergy8 ай бұрын

    Hey just want to ask eapicaly sence i havent found anything is it possible now with motherboards coming woth bluetooth to not use the dongle and go off of the reciever that the motherboard came with to connect such device logi tech controler mouse and keyboard i feel like its a loosing battle playing a little across the room loosing conection and your character turns for the moment till it gets signal back. So im just wondering am i blind to finding the way to set it up or is that a pipe dream.?

  • @jamesrose96
    @jamesrose968 ай бұрын

    That off-center decal on the fan was an extra nail in the coffin; but the lack of full coverage cooling is a whole box of nails. The design and marketing department really thought this was a great product?

  • @generalawareness101
    @generalawareness1018 ай бұрын

    Which block is better, the Bykski, or the Alphacool? I have read the Alphacool has isses (4090 AMP owner here).

  • @Japixx
    @Japixx8 ай бұрын

    Can you try with the back plate and put some small heatsinks for vram?

  • @MagentaBoy
    @MagentaBoy8 ай бұрын

    I had a card, where a cold plate was just not existing, I would have loved if this product was available that time, would have spend twice the price.

  • @Amin_CA
    @Amin_CA8 ай бұрын

    You could've at least tried testing the VRM temps with K type thermocouples, to see the difference between the two coolers.

  • @Lorofol
    @Lorofol7 ай бұрын

    Question: if my vrm pads have gone hard and crusty, do I need to be worried or replace them?

  • @michowski1
    @michowski18 ай бұрын

    What were the VRM temps? Did you open any monitoring software?

  • @vincentellsworth7905
    @vincentellsworth79058 ай бұрын

    not at all; there is less copper on that waterblock then in pennies nowadays for sure isn't worth the cost like corsair bought a huge quantity of generic copper waterblocks from Aliexpress, molded a plastic cover for it and stuck on a $3 fan

  • @GN_Grizz
    @GN_Grizz8 ай бұрын

    @JayzTwoCents I recently did a Icue Link setup and absolutely hated that I could not daisy chain with the fans connected to a radiator. I feel like they have a great design, but it may have been rushed.

  • @danielhulan3058

    @danielhulan3058

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes! It seems as if they were so worried about contending with other things like this. For example, Lian Li, Phanteks D30 fans, and the Thermaltake Swafan. They pushed it out the door too fast. With corsair, they could have easily been the best in this niche. Mistakes.

  • @lukeobbink528
    @lukeobbink5288 ай бұрын

    I have A Bykski waterblock for my 4070ti and it looks and performs amazing

  • @robertkb64
    @robertkb642 ай бұрын

    Better solution than this is to go old school (think circa late 90’s water cooling) when we pried cards apart (pre-KZread of course) and made custom brackets out of spring steel to hold our generic water locks down on the gpu, with the really fancy of us adding heat sinks (which were hard to come by if Radio Shack had already closed for you and you didn’t have Fry’s [RIP] around) and pointing fans at our monstrosities. 😅 Signed, Dr Frankenstein.

  • @Sindalis1
    @Sindalis18 ай бұрын

    Thoughts from viewing. 1. DO NOT TAKE APART THE THING BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON AND TEST IT. I do no care how much 'work' it is to get it dry again. Once you take it apart you can introduce variables. What we want to know is 'does it work from the factory' because guess what. The vast majority of users are not going to take it apart first, nor is it recommended to do so. We're going to plug it in, as it is, straight from the factory. Shout out to GN and HUB for this tip. 2. VRM Liquid cooling, would be nice, though can say anything you do to one side, you need to do to the other. If you liquid cool the VRM on the front side, then you also need to liquid cool the back side. The point here is thermal expansion and consistency. You don't want it to get hot on one side and cold on the other. 3. Memory cooling, I'm not aware if the 4070 or 4070ti has memory on the back side of the PCB, but same remark as in no 2. IMO right call on not including the backplate on this card. Air to Air, Water to Water, heat pad to heat pad. Don't introduce something that's not on the other side. 4. ΔT over Ambient please. Your in SoCal, which is forever on FIRE. How hot is it in your warehouse? 5. Most important question. If it was free, would you bother to install it? I think the answer in this case is NO. The lack of cooling on the VRM and marginal at best performance on the GPU makes it a questionable purchase. VRM heat alone is a concern. Overall agree, garbage product. Not worth the effort removing, nor worth the risk to damaging the VRM components over time. Better to leave the air cooler & backplate on.

  • @eddyh252
    @eddyh2528 ай бұрын

    I know from experience with the kraken g12 bracket that you have to the fan at at least 1200rpm to effectively cool the vrms. It cooled then very well without producing noticeable noise.

  • @hotaru25189
    @hotaru251898 ай бұрын

    on the price vs a full block.....the blocks also dont have the screws in plastic limiting its taking apart/cleaning lifespan.

  • @Atlanticmantic
    @Atlanticmantic8 ай бұрын

    what if you use this with heat sink fins you can get to put on the VRM's? with the airflow coming from the unit's fan i feel it could really help. But again the price doesn't make sense.

  • @RaveDaver

    @RaveDaver

    8 ай бұрын

    The problem with that is,you have to research and spend more than you expected for a good conductive thermal glue! Most "thermal glue" is choking the vrm.

  • @g45h96
    @g45h966 ай бұрын

    I'll say it every time Jay does, if only for the few random people that read it. A thinner contact plate is *NOT* a bad thing. For heat transfer, the thinner the better. If you need an example, half the reason the 7000 ryzen series sucked was because of the thicker ihs. The heat couldn't transfer as quickly because the ihs was thicker, and you can see thermal spikes every time it loads. The only time mass comes into play when considering thermals is touching on equilibrium, because you need to calculate the total heat contained in the thermal mass. But considering the contact plate is in between the heat source and sink, it won't affect the equilibrium temperatures, it would just make it take longer to get there (not a good thing)

  • @thrices4372
    @thrices43728 ай бұрын

    Hey can you test the 4060 low profile? It looks interesting, should it perform as a normal 4060?

  • @dweagar
    @dweagar8 ай бұрын

    How do you generate the performance metric overlay as seen on your games/benchmarking software?

  • @nickm8651
    @nickm86518 ай бұрын

    My Zodiac Airo Extreme at 3000 plus megahertz never passes 65 Celsius in a case without a water block. So wjy wpuld I need a water block?

  • @jerryandersson4873
    @jerryandersson48738 ай бұрын

    Are there cheap ish metal backplates one can get separately for ones card?

  • @jasonluvisi
    @jasonluvisi8 ай бұрын

    8C is quite significant... can you put the back-plate back on with contact to the VRM? If the block is only 4 screws it looks like the back-plate can remain. Definitely not good looking though

  • @tristansuclin5528
    @tristansuclin55288 ай бұрын

    jay professional version drivers for amd has vrm heat % displayed in metrics

  • @nicklasfejersen4202
    @nicklasfejersen42028 ай бұрын

    can you confair the Arctic P12 Max? I'm considering it for a kinda budget fan with great performance anyway but I'm not totally sure.

  • @MrArrmageddon
    @MrArrmageddon8 ай бұрын

    I have a $6000 PC. It has a great size window. RGB etc. But it sits in a location that you really can't see inside. I don't really care to look inside. The window is mostly for me to make sure nothing seems to look loose or melting inside. I can look in with a flash light and make sure the GPU support beam has no shifted. I can make sure the PCI-E power thing that was shown to melt etc is not melting things like that. I don't really care how it looks. I can't even place my PC in a spot that lets people clearly see inside without having to like bend over etc. So yes this water block if it works well I would use if it was cheaper. Overall I care most about performance, cost next and finally how it looks. All three are at least somewhat important though so I am not hating on JayzTwocents. After all I am an adult and can form my own opinions. Nothing a youtuber or anyone can say will decide for me. So I don't get why some people get hate over just raw opinions unless they are well into the territory of wrong or exploitable etc. I'm not even saying people are hating Jay for this though. And I still welcome full testing not just unboxing when possible.

  • @StopperJJ
    @StopperJJ8 ай бұрын

    I was very enthusiastic for the hydro X link products, minus that GPU block. But after seeing your actual use and implementation of the parts, I am going to remain with my older corsair hardware. The whole point of the link products was to simplify the connection path and that did not happen with the pump or the block. And the fans, which were objectively the worst part of cosair's prior ecosystem, still aren't entirely resolved. Hopefully like the Lian Li revisions of their product stack, we get similar tweaks to this system. Corsair: 1. lose the 2nd break out control box and put passthroughs on everything. It will make everything so much cleaner and better for the end user. If that can't be done, include the break out box and extra cables at a lower cost with the hydro x parts. 2. provide 90 degree cables in box with the packs of fans and the hydro X parts. 3. try to shrink the cable connections so they don't foul on fittings. Lian Li had the same problems in their earlier fans. 4. Take the GPU blocks back to the drawing board. I really think there is still potential in this product line but the majority of it needs minor revisions and the GPU blocks need serious changes both in aesthetics and function.

  • @Rosa_AI
    @Rosa_AI8 ай бұрын

    the graphs you show at 4 minutes was that hwmonitor? can someone help me with that i gotta stresstest my pc for a problem

  • @williammarkle7381
    @williammarkle73818 ай бұрын

    with the hydro x fittings Youde have the clearance for hard tube to use the 90

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