Honestly it would make more sense if it was revealed that a more obedient batch of commandos was made, not only would it explain the obedience, but also why scortch is the only commando who still has decorated armour

@trainknut

Жыл бұрын

That would be really eerie, makes you wonder where all the original commandos went. Yknow, besides being blown up on Geonosis 😂

@Dee-sz4jc

Жыл бұрын

@The Arctic Gamer probably off on missions or something. Could you imagine commando units that are so far out they didn't know order 66 happened?

@trainknut

Жыл бұрын

@@Dee-sz4jc probably not many left by the end of season 2, but you never know, there are probably a couple units stuck out there with no contact at all.

@captainsratings

Жыл бұрын

Did you notice the clone commando who spoke in the latest bad batch episode. His voice seemed much younger than the voices of other clones, quite suspicious if you ask me

@zeratul____1228

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps they weren't commandos at all but rather Regs that were given the armour.

Legends Commandos: The Expendables in spartan armor Disney Canon Commandos: Stormtroopers with Halo 3 Brute Armor

@trevturp6891

6 ай бұрын

So The Disney Canon Commandos suck in comparison to The Legends Commandos?

@BotanRice

6 ай бұрын

too accurate 😂

@pubcle

6 ай бұрын

That's an insult to Stormtroopers.

@dancingvalkyrie

6 ай бұрын

Dave Filoni says youre welcome lmao

@richardched6085

5 ай бұрын

​@@trevturp6891Obviously lol

What's worse is that Clone Commandos be getting the Stormtrooper treatment now as shown by the new season finale where it's only taking one shot now to take em down.

@Emperor-Sheev-Palpatine5746

Жыл бұрын

Their Katan armor is most likely now made out of a cheaper material like the TK armor

@shadekerensky3691

Жыл бұрын

@@Emperor-Sheev-Palpatine5746 Unlikely, and even if it was, that doesn't make sense based on how things went with SCorch who took THREE direct stun blasts before being taken down. That should be the STANDARD for even the TK Commandos.

@Emperor-Sheev-Palpatine5746

Жыл бұрын

@@shadekerensky3691 well at that point they took more then one shot to go down I’m talking about in the later seasons they might have weaker armor now

@Emperor-Sheev-Palpatine5746

Жыл бұрын

@@shadekerensky3691 also the imperial commandos were still clones

@alexikixeye4578

Жыл бұрын

@@Emperor-Sheev-Palpatine5746 Not everyone who goes down in a scene is dead, each commando that went 'down' is likely just KO'd and alive

Im still curious about the rest of Delta Squad. We’ve only seen Scorch championing for the Empire (oddly still in his yellow scheme)

@DarthTingleBinks

Жыл бұрын

Considering the Commandos only seem to be stationed at very secretive, high value bases, I would assume they're either stationed elsewhere, or are dead.

@Unchainedmaple888

Жыл бұрын

Scorch also seems the least likely member of delta squad to just robotically obey the empire. I'm gonna guess that they chose Scorch purely because his design was the coolest but also more "bad guy" looking. Shallow really.

@RedtailArt

Жыл бұрын

Well actually the multiplayer character customization in Star Wars Republic Commando only refers to that color scheme as "demolitionist", so that might not even be Scorch, just another commando who specializes in explosives

@DarthTingleBinks

Жыл бұрын

@@RedtailArt The official Star Wars account released art of him with the name "Scorch" on the image. It was Scorch.

@RedtailArt

Жыл бұрын

@@DarthTingleBinks well then there goes my headcanon. I'm going to pretend him and the rest of Delta Squad turn against the empire later on then like met up with Sev on kashyyyk or something for my own sanity

I always thought the clone commandos were being treated like lvl 50 mini boss stormtroopers

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

Жыл бұрын

I mean if anyone should have gotten that treatment it was the Dark Troopers. Seeing the commando troopers and dark troopers go head to head would have been cool. Actually even just having group of commandos go head to head with some friendly scout and other specialized clone on both sides just tearing into each other would have been cool.

@manumainio3451

Жыл бұрын

They shoot just as badly as the TKs. Useless. Why bring them back at all?

@paladyntt7232

Жыл бұрын

​​@@manumainio3451 All of the "evil" clones shoot just as bad too. That's just Filoni i guess.

@LiveLongAndSuffer

8 ай бұрын

Hm we saw scorch but wheres the rest of delta squad

I have a theory that the commandos we see in the Bad Batch were specifically produced to carry out special operations for the Empire since it’s practically impossible to train conscripts from scratch to perform the tasks that the commandos are perfectly capable of doing right off the bat.

@G59forlife.

Жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s why the other 2 deltas haven’t been in the show (sev prob died RIP) Don’t know why they would choose Scorch over Boss though. Scorch is like the most light hearted of the squad

@wonderwaffle5858

Жыл бұрын

@@G59forlife. it’s possible the other three all died, and because of it scorch is super hardened now and that’s why he’s cold and ruthless and not the goofy guy

@G59forlife.

Жыл бұрын

@@wonderwaffle5858 I hope not. Thatd be sad af

@adalidjuarez5332

Жыл бұрын

@@wonderwaffle5858 what if they all changed after order 66 was given

@gambitisbeebo

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think the other Deltas are dead. Most likely they were assigned to different AOs (Area of Operations) to act as COs or security heads.

I agree with you a lot. The clone commandos are in a way the only clones that WERE MADE to think for themselves.(I mean they might still have chips, but they are more independent) I’ve never read the books, but I played the Republic Commando game(Like 11 years ago) and they are not some robot thinker machine. They are the Master Chief of the group. If they can’t do their job in one way, they will find another way that is not in their briefing

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

That first part is literally 100% wrong as of the clone wars show coming out. All clones have the chips, no clone with a working chip could reject order 66. Unlike the broken old eu, palpatine now has the elite forces unable to reject him just because they want.

@bensonfang1868

Жыл бұрын

They might have collectively agreed that the empire was better on their own free will

@AbdefFable1

Жыл бұрын

​@daefaron Arc troopers and normal captain and commanders in the clone army showing up in this would have fit just as well as commandos. The EU was more fun than what Disney's been giving us (even filoni is having it rough trying to work in these confines as far as I can tell watching some of his newer stuff)

@KingerWas777

Жыл бұрын

Karen Travis wrote a hierarchy of genetic control that was placed on the clones. Regular CTs were engineered to follow orders, less obedience was written into CCs to allow them a significant level of independent effectiveness (in my head cannon, that's why members of the bad batch responded differently to order 66), and the ARC troopers were as close to raw Jango as the Kaminoans would dare to produce.

@jimmysmith2249

Жыл бұрын

​@@KingerWas777 Yes. What you said.

Fixer & Boss are no where to be seen… so maybe there’s still hope

@Apfelkaninchen

11 ай бұрын

I just hope they don't end up destroying them, too. I love the delta squad. Please no. 😢 But it sure would be cool to see them again.

@willaverynerdyclarinetist6131

9 ай бұрын

​@@ApfelkaninchenI just want to see clan skirata again, or at least hear them mentioned. It's confirmed that other mandalorian clans survived outside of Sundari under Satine's rule, not just the Death watch. We know of at least a few clans as of the end of Heroes of Mandalore part 2, such as Clans Rook, Elder, Wren, Kryze, Viszla, Saxon, and the protectors, all of whom eventually came to support Bo-Katan despite her past in Death Watch (With the exception of Saxon, iirc), which no doubt was well known by then to all of the clans. That alone tells me that either A, the clans suddenly reformed and rearmed themselves with weapons and armor that's at least centuries, if not thousands of years old, after Satine and Maul were taken out of the picture, or they just went into hiding during the era of the new mandalorian government. And since we know from Mandalorian that at least some of the Mando'a translations that Karen Traviss came up with for her Republic Commando novels are still canon, with one translation that, while we haven't heard it since the novels to my knowledge, would perfectly explain the sudden disappearance and reappearance of the clans before and after Satine's time as Duchess, that being "Ba'slan Shev'la", meaning "Strategic disappearance", I think it's likely that Clan Skirata is still alive as of the Bad Batch, just still in hiding somewhere. Honestly, Bad Batch would be a great time to reintroduce Clan Skirata anyway. Kal Skirata literally adopted a bunch of the commandos including Omega squad, half of whom are, as of the end of Imperial Commando, still having to work for the empire as spies, Walon Vau trained Delta Squad, whom because of seeing Scorch in Bad Batch, we can infer that Boss and Fixer are still active as well, the Null ARC's who would definitely be inclined to help Hunter, Echo, and Wrecker after finding out that Tech is presumed dead, and who also would be able to pick up right where Tech left off in regards to being able to hack into the Empire's systems, as well as the fact that Clone Force 99 is in a prime position to need Kal's help to get back Omega and Crosshair. Season 3 of Bad Batch seems to have been built up to conclude with some kind of clone rebellion where the clones are fighting for their freedom, and what was Kal's number one goal during the clone wars? GIVING THE CLONES THEIR FREEDOM.

@user-oh6eg4ny3h

6 ай бұрын

I just don’t follow canon. I just follow legends. I even made my own clone trooper based off the legends route and made him a member of the 501st legion.

@The.Bandolorian

4 ай бұрын

@@willaverynerdyclarinetist6131 this is something I think about a lot. Imagine Filoni tying in the most famous Clone Wars era legends lore into the Bad Batch show 😭😭. One can only dream sadly. iirc, the creator of Kal Skirata doesn’t want anything to do with Disney or something in that matter, so unfortunately I don’t believe anything Skirata related can be canon 😔. (I could be wrong about that lol)

@russianinvader3207

3 ай бұрын

Sev.

Bro those books went haaaarrrd. It's a crying shame that we never got the last one. Karen Travis is a fantastic writer. Very gritty stuff

I think their inhibitor chips are what makes them obedient. I also believe that they struggle, and are defeated easily, because they have lost their individuality and bond as small teams. They’ve lost what made them so effective.

@AbdefFable1

Жыл бұрын

Legends commandos and Null ARCs had free will like the Bad Batch. It was why they were considered some of the republics more skilled groups of soldiers (with Null Arcs being the prototype for your standard ARC troopers like Alpha in Legends or examples to clones like Rex, Echo and Fives in canon) The Disney Canon makes commando troopers just seem like clones with expensive DLC armor

@PixlPlayer

Жыл бұрын

@@AbdefFable1 it makes perfect sense to give them chips. Why would palpatine leave his decades long plan up to chance? Before the chips activated they were still the same independent clones as in legends.

@glovesofkosai5639

Жыл бұрын

Inhibitor chips is a bad idea and lazy writing.

@King.D_no.1

Жыл бұрын

​@@AbdefFable1 that's why Disney sucks!, Republic Commandos had such a great potential for even their own show and many great games, even if in the past it wasn't so successful as they wanted today it could be a different story but.... It's Disney...

@taxult

Жыл бұрын

Bad excuse

They changed a lot for the worse. But don't tell Filoni's fans that.

@Glowji.

11 ай бұрын

Like what

@joshuafranklin9630

11 ай бұрын

@@Glowji. you heard me.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

​@@Glowji.literally the video shows what

@yertnert2624

5 ай бұрын

Tbf yall are in the same boat as die hard dave Feloni fans, if they say its good you wine and say it isnt and they vice versa. Yall are just as toxic

@Fulcrox

5 ай бұрын

@@yertnert2624 basic criticism=toxic got it bro

I can’t believe they marketed scorch in the first trailer and he hardly got any screen time. Let alone the entirety of delta squad. They did the same thing with Cody, it’s really a shame.

Reminder to everyone that Filoni isn't the saviour many people think he is.

@willaverynerdyclarinetist6131

9 ай бұрын

True. But at least he's made stuff worlds better than anything we've seen from others in disney aside from what Favreau's made, and Trevarrow's Original plot for Episode IX. Not saying he's perfect, but by comparison for those who aren't familiar with things like the Thrawn, Dark Empire, or Republic commando novels, it's easy to see why people think he's the savior of star wars.

@MozambiqueEnjoyer6097

8 ай бұрын

Its gotten more apparent since the Clone Wars ended. The nonstop nolstagia bait of Mando season 2 is what made me start questioning his shit.

@adamallen7070

7 ай бұрын

Lmao I bet you feel a bit dumb now. He’s been made Chief creative officer and is planning the future for lucasfilm. With Ashoka setting up the celestials and Thrawn return I think he very much is a savior

@KhukuriGod

7 ай бұрын

@@adamallen7070 Celebrating a victory after the dumb Fucksohka show? I pity you Filoni fanboys. Maybe Filoni will do better with his new-found power. But I'm extremely sceptical since Rebels was a huge downgrade from The Clone Wars and Ahsoka was absolute shit. Bad Batch was just ok and nothing special. The Dooku episodes in Tales of the Jedi were good but the Ahsoka bits were not that great. The fight with the Inquisitor seems to have been far cooler in the novel (same with Kanan's escape in the comics). Filoni is notorious for changing good bits in novels/comics and churning out shittier versions in his own works. What this tells me is that Filoni is overrated and doesn't care much about consistency. No doubt, we'll be seeing more of this shit now that he has UNLIMITED POWAH. The guy should just stick to cartoons since even his live-action work is cartoonish to the extreme.

@Arbidarb

7 ай бұрын

He definitely makes some bad choices, but at least he cares somewhat about the franchise and doesn't churn out thoughtless trash like the rest of Disney does.

I find the role reversal fascinating and I’m curious to learn what keeps them in line with the empire. Maybe they’re not all clones at this point. Maybe some are TK troopers wearing the armor instead. Their concept art doesn’t even list them as clones but instead “imperial royal guards”

@jrev2284

Жыл бұрын

They are one hundred percent troopers, they have to go through intense training, however, they could be sparti clones. One fills omega squad in the imperial commando book

@neofulcrum5013

Жыл бұрын

@@jrev2284that is also a possibility

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

​@@jrev2284sparti clones are no longer canon

@AnonD38

2 ай бұрын

The writers literally did nothing with it and killed Scorch off at the end like a regular Stormtrooper for no reason other than perhaps to piss off the Republic Commando fans

@neofulcrum5013

2 ай бұрын

@@AnonD38 we all knew he had only two fates at this point: escape or die. He was in too deep with the empire

As a huge Legends fan, I have to say that the Star wars commando books were probably the second best series I ever read. Only after the X-Wing series.

This is one hell of an example of why I never liked the brain chip introduced in the Clone Wars. I liked the idea that all the Clones were in on the scam (Battlefront 2), and once Order 66 comes they can blindly follow or ignore it. It brings up another reference from the Third Reich's, "We were following orders" to "Good soldiers follow orders."

Honestly I hope that they stick with the old republic commando idea and make sev a rebel

I actually fully agree with this, we should've gotten veteran clones from more obedient ranks and legions to do this -- or repurposed covert op clones.

This is how i feel everytime they reach into legends for superior content.

I agree with you but at the same time, I think the clone commandos are bad ass and I love seeing them on the screen in their Katarn armor.

The fact that they actively show up rather than a mere cameo makes me think they still have a long story ahead. Maybe they won’t redeem, or maybe not every commando, but still it makes me think that, like Ventress, some may stand in a good thought after battle

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

It only was done for worse in second season, so 0 hope for improvement, writers simply don't understand what commandos are

@AnonD38

2 ай бұрын

They killed off my boy Scorch like he was just any other Stormtrooper. IMMENSELY dissapointing.

Definitely can tell they're being used as baddies, and it's my one fear for them using Scorch. I think he's less communicative since he's not with his brothers and that Delta was very close knit and when not together they're just doing a job. Hopefully with Scorch we get an opening up into Delta and Clan Skirata, Clone Mandalorians is something I don't think Filoni and Favreau would pass up, and those Traviss novels are definitely where they're getting their Mando Lore knowledge from

@AnonD38

2 ай бұрын

The writers did literally nothing with it and killed Scorch off like he was any other Stormtrooper.

This was something talked about for the distinction between arc troopers and commandos. Commandos were meant to be best of the best but limited in independent thinking, the type to suffer immeasurable torture without spilling republic intel, arc troopers were supposed to be good but be more independent for better strategy - the type to command legions.

I also don't like how the clone commandos are just being used as better stormtroopers. They were infiltrators during the clone wars, as far as I'm aware, not simple enforcers and guards for the republic/empire.

I hadn’t heard about them originally having defected so much before the writing of Bad Batch. Maybe the ones we see in Bad Batch are what’s left after defections? If I’m not mistaken, we see Scorch in the Bad Batch (unless that’s some other commando who just happens to look like Scorch), but neither of his surviving teammates from Kashyyyk. What if they had defected?

@willaverynerdyclarinetist6131

9 ай бұрын

It's possible, but unless Scorch chose to stay so he could feed Boss and Fixer intel from inside the empire, like Niner and Darman did in Imperial Commando, I can't see Boss or Fixer leaving him behind, especially not after what happened to Sev.

I like the idea that the commandos are still independent and all that, and these are just the most loyal of the loyal

People give the likes of Filoni way too much credit, he absolutely destroyed Legends (old canon) characters as well as the universe.

@LastKingLKArthur

8 ай бұрын

Grievous is the best example for this. He was so amazing in legends books and comics... and nowadays he gets zero new content

@angelic_disappointment7889

7 ай бұрын

@@LastKingLKArthurLucas ruined Grievous, not Filoni

@TheShadowTitan

6 ай бұрын

Grevious never got "ruined" to begin with lol. Idk why everyone goes with that terrible example. Lucas always intended for grevious to be a cowardly throwback villain to the silver age of cinema. Blame the novel writers for making grevious cooler and innacurate to that vision.​@angelic_disappointment7889

@The_Caledonian

6 ай бұрын

@@TheShadowTitan Lucas isnt a god and not all of his ideas a great. Case and point, Jar Jar.

@TheShadowTitan

6 ай бұрын

@@The_Caledonian never said he was lol and using the term “Wasted” instead of ruined would be better

I wish they actually made Clone Commandos as lethal as they were in the books and game. They're supposed to be among the best in the GAR, but in the show they're nothing more than canon fodder with different armor. Actual Republic Commandos from Legends would give The Bad Batch a real run for their money.

Their treatment nowadays reminds me of how new NRS writers for Mortal Kombat has treated various fan favorites portly in favor of characters that fans generally dislike or have no interest in.

Funny enough, this is how I feel about certain aspects of the Droid Army… mostly Magnaguards and BX Commandos.

completely agree. i also just can't see scorch in my head being this way

@akoiya6300

Жыл бұрын

That's what makes them all the more creepier

I wholeheartedly agree!

If you haven’t go read the books. The mandalorian life is so appealing that even a Jedi or two joins clan skirata. They also go on some seal team 6 level type missions.

My headcanon says these are normal humans in Clone armor

SUCH GOOD BOOKS. Incredible. Remain my favorite series up top with thrawn.

Yes they are the most independent and most tactical trooper but they were also the most loyal to the government and the most isolated from the rest of the regular clones. They see regs as the other and for sure and I bet they may also look fondly at the TK Troopers since they were trained by the Commandos, passing on their training like how the mandolorians taught them.

The Null and Alpha ARCs I'd argue are one man armies each with far more free will. The Commandos were a surgical scalpel but did require a large level of independence for creativity. 100% agree that they made Commandos look like just a beefier tk trooper.

"The actual commandos where!" 😂

My only problem with the commandos is how many there are. I always thought that there'd only be a few squads at most but in the show they are literally everywhere.

@noggin8485

Жыл бұрын

I believe there’s always been a lot. I’m pretty sure it was recorded that thousands of commandos died during the first battle of Geonosis.

@SoupSnipe

Жыл бұрын

​@noggin Per legends 10K made and about 5K died on Geonosis.

@Cool_Kid95

3 ай бұрын

oh yeh this too

I agree 100 percent that they really did a dishonor to the clone commandos in this series. Of course when I commented on this on other videos, I got swarmed by angry fellas replying in such a hostile way. But then I remember that Star Wars has such a toxic fanbase so I realize I’m not the one in the wrong lmao

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

Eh, it's fine to dislike or like different things about star wars. It's important to not attack others merely for disagreeing. It's important to note much of the clone commando lore was scrapped by the clone wars show before Disney took over anyway.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

Dave Filoni fanboys be like that

Arguably (however Filoni plays it), there could be different generations of clone commandos. I am just spitballing, though; I don't know much about them, myself.

Ok the thing is that clone commandos just look so intimidating and I think that there could be a chance that the commandos on tantus are some that had their inhibitor chips heightened and even if not I think that they make another good piece of storytelling with the way that they went from talkative and unique to completely silent and obedient just like the clones but the commandos are also meant to be even more loyal than regs and so I think it makes sense for them to be used here (I might have gotten some stuff wrong bc tbh I kinda forgot most of my knowledge on commandos so forgive me if I'm wrong with any details/bits of info)

@yarnickgoovaerts

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Everyone seems to forget what they did with Crosshairs chip. It’s easy to imagine the empire doing it with all clone commandos

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

​@@yarnickgoovaertsthe chip doesnt make you incompetent, chip Crosshair was able to take on the whole TBB

@yarnickgoovaerts

7 ай бұрын

@@Fulcrox I never said that

I always felt that the way Delta 62 "Scorch" was depicted in Bad Batch was deviating a bit from the game. Scorch was always the more joking commando, whereas Delta 40 "Fixer" was the more serious and by-the-book commando. To me, it would have been more fitting to have Fixer in the Bad batch.

I’m still holding out hope that when the commandos see how many clones have defected, and the longer they’re forced to witness their brothers being experimented on, eventually the commandos will turn on the empire en-masse… maybe not all at once, but certainly entire squads at a time. There’s no way Gregor was the only clone commando who had a problem with what they were doing.. and remember he only defected because he basically thought the TK troopers were lame… as far as we know he never saw the secret cloning project or the zillo beast.

I think bad batch has shown that the commandos are actually very individual but have been specifically brainwashed by Hemlock because of their individuality. This is possibly also why Scorch is so unlike his former self.

I just want to see sev back

Still sad Karen traviss never finished the books. Loved them.

Yeah i hate what they did to my boy scorch in the aeries finale of bad batch

Same situation for me. I am happy to get to see more Clone Commando being shown but their portayal is off from what they are supposed to be FOR NOW. I think it's likely that we are being set up here for the CCs are being turned into the earliest versions of Deathtroopers, considering them being attached to Dr. Hemlock. I hope Felonies headcannon here is that we only get to see the surviving hardline Clone Commandos, the ones that stayed loyal, while the big part of CCs have deffected already or maybe are about to. The only thing here speaking against this would be WHY Dave chose Scorch to be the one shown. Unless he is part of a bigger plan of departure for Delta squad, he is quite unfitting in that position. Unless he tragically is the sole survivor of Delta squad.

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

Here's the thing though. Why would the clone commandos defect in mass? All that lore about them being trained hard in mandalorian culture? that's GONE. It's been gone for many, many years. The commandos and ARC troopers being super unique in their ability to think independently has long been retconned to be completely false, all clones could think that way, especially if they were encouraged and around jedi a lot (Tarkin outright mentions this as a negative trait, Jedi made them unpredictable). All clones had the chip so no clone could just reject order 66 merely because they wanted to (like in the book was true for clone commandos), with the only ones who could ignore it being clone force 99, who were mutant/altered clones to begin with. Now unlike the nonsense that was the best clone forces could easily defect simply because they dislike Palpatine, we see the most elite forces STILL under his control, whether they are willing or have their chips juiced up and turned up all the time.

@MMaster1397

Жыл бұрын

@@daefaron Sadly it is as you said. Though since the Clone Commando Training is still left ambiguous, them being trained primarily or even just a few squads, by Mandos can still be the case. Something akin to Omega Squad and its desertion. I do agree with you though, it's likely all that great lore is still dead but I hold out hope still.

@plissken94th57

2 ай бұрын

@@daefaronexactly, all that mandalorian training was gone as soon as you could just earn ARC status like the way 5s and Echo did in Clone Wars.

He should've just used the clone shadows, the assassin guys. They already had the explicit purpose of hunting down and killing clone defectors, it'd made complete sense for them to not only be part of, but actively WANT TO BE PART OF the future loyalty programs

Yes. This. I was unpleasantly surprised to see what they did to the commandos.

Such a fantastic line of lore. Loved the game. Needs extending on. The story isn't over

those TK's fragged their commander😂😂

I estimate that the "Clone Commandos" that we see in the bad batch aren't actually clone commandos and just Regs given leftover Clone Commandos armor they are getting rid of. when we see the Clone Commandos they use clone tactics, they work in large squads, and it seems like there's a plentiful amount of them.

@mapleflag6518

8 ай бұрын

Except Scorch. That’s actually him.

@starkillerrogue1950

7 ай бұрын

It would be plausible to think that, they're never specified to actually *be* commandos to my knowledge, and Katarn-class armor is known to be some of the best armor for republic troopers, so it wouldn't be surprising to see non-commando, specialized units in possession of it.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

​@@starkillerrogue1950they are literally called a commandos on the official guides about the show

@starkillerrogue1950

7 ай бұрын

@@FulcroxHence why I said to my knowledge, as I didn't read anything relating to the official guides, only what was in the show. Regardless, if they are commandos I can see why the Empire would want them to train the first batch of TK troopers, seeing as how commandos were one of two units trained intensely by Mandalorians. For the Royal Guard it wouldn't make much sense other than "Elite Unit go brr," so obviously it was a style choice. My fault though for getting it wrong initially, I was hoping they hadn't explicitly mentioned the Royal Guards to be a commando unit anywhere.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

@@starkillerrogue1950 it doesnt make sense because Commandos are trained to be 4 men squads, they are unfit to be trainers of whole batallions, if they writers knew what they are doing they would have used ARC Troopers, who are known to be trainers and group leaders

I feel like there’s gonna be some sort of explanation in Season 3 as to why so many commandos are complying with the Empire. I feel like the inclusion of Scorch as Hemlock’s right hand man has to mean something. Scorch would be the least likely Clone to stand idly by while watching his brothers tortured at the hands of Hemlock. Maybe we just need to let ‘em cook.

@jackykwan3241

Жыл бұрын

My wild guess would be the commandos are the first successful batch of test subjects of Dr. Hemlock's project regarding to the clones

I mean the song Ash did for Republic Commando kinda sings about that "Brainwashed and cold. You're just a drone. Got no control."

see but i feel like the empire like made them more controllable, like what they did with crosshair last season.. if i remember correctly they had tried to boost his inhibitor chip

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

They did. Strongly boosted his chip which caused him to reject his brothers. I believe the chip was removed after they fried him with that engine and it was likely damaged.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

Crosshair Boost on his chip didn't make him incompetent, he was still able to take on the whole BB alone. So no, it shouldn't make the Commandos any weaker

This is exactly why i never want to see Disney touch the old republic at this rate

I think they just juiced up the inhibitor chips on all remaining commandos which causes the robotic nature of them now. I think in season 3 there will be a small war between the empire and remaining clones which may be when we see the commandos break through the chips programming.

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

Pumped up the chips plus using them to guard advance science group locations and VIPs, so they don't see the Empire stomping on civilians or destroying what they once fought to protect.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

That doesnt make any sense

Thank you, feels like Dave got sidetracked with his new toys

I have a theory that instead of these being commandos these are covert ops troopers from legends mixed with a few loyal commandos it would also explain why there’s so many commandos in the bad batch

Even though I didn’t read the books, I felt the same way. I could tell just from the old clone wars comics that the commandos were a different breed of clone.

I hope this gets explained away as the empire needing a show of strength and intimidation by just "promoting" troopers up to commandos to make it seem like they have greater numbers of these fearsome specialised troopers, the biggest hint towards this is that most of them still use DC-15s instead of the DC-17m like most of the original commandos used

Not only save on Charakter Design but also riding on nostalgia

Exactly this! I knew i couldn't be the only one that felt this way. I'm reading the novals as we speak and i can't imagine RC's behaving like this.

Gen tech, I don't know if you read these, I haven't seen you comment on them, but I was responding to another viewer when I thought maybe they are Sparti clones. We see in Imperial Commando that they fan function as commandos. Do you have thoughts on this? If I remember right the Spartis were much more loyal as well which could be why they are worse and are still with the empire.

Preach brother preach!!!!🙌🏼

Agreed.

Well said!!

I'm watching random KZread videos and clips while packing, and I literally just put my RC books in a box, maybe five minutes ago.

I just assumed they got the crosshair treatment and got brain zapped

Got the classic disney "You work for the bad guy so now you're incompetent"

It's Filoni rubbing it into Karen Traviss's face how his Clone Wars won out over her Republic Commando novels.

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

I mean, George Lucas was involved in the clone wars and as I recall, he was famously known to be the guy who viewed Boba Fett as "Just a man in mandalorian armor" not the typical mandalorian hero the fanbase turned him into and later authors like Karen made him into the leader of all mandalorians and the prize example of how they should act.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

​@@daefaronLucas contradicted so many times on the whole Mandalorian issue that i would need fingers to count them all

@daefaron

7 ай бұрын

@@Fulcrox Lucas didn't really do that much directly with Mandalorians. The EU authors however, did.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

@@daefaron nah he totally did, he literally waged war against both EU authors and Canon authors regarding if Jango and Boba we're Mandalorians or not, just because he was adamant they we'rent (when every single autor outside him had already portrayed them as such)

@daefaron

7 ай бұрын

@@Fulcrox and it's his fault karen traviss felt her books were more canon then anything Lucas did? That's on her for not understanding how canon tiers worked.

Thank you someone finally said it.

We miss them a lot.

The Republic Commando’s book series taught me the mandalorian culture that I loved. I learned a bit more about the culture with Akaavi Spar and Torian Cadera in SWTOR. Those were what made me want to be a mandalorian more than a force user.

It actually makes more sense this way, as I thought they were created as more obedient special forces, and favored over ARCs among Kaminoans for that reason

I think a lot of people have tried to understand this, one person came up with an explanation that the commandos you see now could be clones the empire has seen fit to stay and gave additional training to and better armor… idk this is still a good point to bring up and is worth explaining in cannon

THANK YOU

Rip scorch

You never truly realize how much people treat star wars like it is an actual thing that happened until you watch the videos

Honestly, I really like seeing the clone commandos as often we do now. It follows the trend of the empire misusing its most valuable resources. Instead of helping solidify the empire's grip on the galaxy, putting down dissent where it rears its head they are guarding remote installations or Imperial projects in the same manner crosshair or mayday did. With so many commandos shown the manner of training they underwent may not have been so intimate between instructors, or perhaps such traits would be lost in the sheer volume of commandos minted.

@daefaron

Жыл бұрын

Well as of Canon since clone wars came out, I believe the whole "trained by Mandalorians" was entirely scrapped. We see some troopers trained by mercs/bounty hunters in the show, but it's not Mandalorians and they aren't getting that culture hammered into them anymore. The whole "ARC troopers are a special unique breed" was removed, as was Null ARC's and such. Though yes, it does tie into how the empire misused resources. They are ditching the clones in sloppy ways, using the commandos as an elite fighting force to guard classified bases and VIP's (not just remote bases, but classified remote bases)

@occam7382

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This has been what I've been saying from the start. This isn't the showrunners f*cking up the Commandos, it's the Empire f*cking up the Commandos. As is standard procedure with the Empire.

My head cannon is those are new gen "commandos". Perhaps as an early iteration of dark troopers.

@Fulcrox

7 ай бұрын

Why would the Empire create new clones when they are literally bitching every episode about phasing them out lmao

I did not know Ed Harris was a Mandalorian

It's a long shot, but I hope Scorch gets some dedicated screen time, maybe even explaining losing Sev and being separated from Delta broke him

Exactly how i feel

Thank you. Sure it was cool to see so many commandos, but it was a bit jarring seeing them all monolithically imperial.

Great book series; their brotherhood in the novels is palpable

Im just glad we saw so many old characters in bad batch. Gregor, krennic, commander gree men was sick i just want a clone wars show following rex right off the bat

Kinds wanna go back and re read the commando novels after seeing this video😂

I kinda think it makes sense bc they were trained to be fanatically loyal.

The way the Clone Commandos act in Bad Batch makes sense, when Order 66 happened all Clones lost their identity and with the Clone Commandos trained completely different to he special forces. For them to act the way they do makes sense. Especially when they are currently the best soldiers the empire has after getting rid of Clone Trooper for TK police troopers.

What hurts most is that it's now canon (I think) that Delta Squad became loyal to the Empire. I haven't found what happened to the rest of the squad, but at least now we see what happens with Scorch

Oh yea books man. The books so many details. Obsessed

Mabye hes trying to nudge lego into making some clone commando minifigs for us

@CommanderFoxclone1010

11 ай бұрын

LEGO when they ignored Bad Batch Season 2 and we now have only 2 sets (+ Omega S1 minifigure and some random TBB S1 builds in advent calendars) about TBB and it's Season 1 sets only

What they did to Scorch in the last episode is somehting I shall never forgive

A small price to pay for one of the best Star Wars shows yet

The commandos trained by mandalorian mercenaries were a different breed than the usual CT clones (the RC class). Maybe the kaminoans didn’t have a lot of RC clones to reinforce the republic, so they started training CT clones to become commandos instead, and when most of the RC clones deserted, more CT clones were recruited to fill in the gap.

The issue when run into with a lot of the animation shows is that based off their “intended” younger audiences you villains get nerf in support of the story. This happens to the droids, stormtroopers (both imperial and first order), some bounty hunters, and other villains. It makes sense to have clones and clone commandos serve the empire if all clones had inhibitor chips, and they were activated and still functioning. That being said we don’t know the full details of clone commandos in this universe just the little bit we have. We base a lot of the commando history off of the old game and books that followed. Frankly it would just be nice to just get some games similar to the old commando game, but at the rate the gaming designers and developers are taking hits from execs. It’s gonna be rough. It would be cool if they address this in future content and as

Dont forget that these new ones arent trained by the mercenaries