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These Table Saws CAN'T Keep Up!!!
I should've never sold my corded Dewalt table saw...
In all fairness these little table saws are amazing. They are just not heavy duty like their corded brothers. I already know I am asking a lot out of these saws but I wish they had a corded/cordless option.
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I've used many table saws. Unless your using a very large cabinet makers saw, the Milwaukee cordless with 12.0 batteries out cuts them all. With your 5.0 the motor doesn't get enough juice. I have personally ripped full dept (2 5/8") with my Milwaukee tablesaw into soaking wet treated 4x4 post making deck railing. My saw never bogged out or stalled. There is a reason Milwaukee table saw kits come with the 12.0 battery. Try your tool again but give it a fighting chance. Side note the 9.0 does work too if your cuts are less demanding. I use mine to do reno work, it likes riping dimensional materials and on a regular day for me being 12 hours, I might use up my battery three times with heavy use.
@michaelp9238
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I dont think he understands the AH concept. The 12 AH delivers way more power. 5ah I wouldn't even use in my impact.
@tenflat2009
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelp9238 I think it's more to do with the cells in the battery myself. All of the older style batteries use an outdated 18650 size cell but the cp3.0, hd6.0, hd8.0 and hd 12.0 use a larger 21700 cell. The larger cell gives more umph. I wouldn't expect that the cp3.0 could run the saw long but I bet it's have more jamb than the 5.0. Personally I would only use 12.0 and 8.0 in any tool you need heavy duty performance from.
@michaelp9238
Жыл бұрын
@@tenflat2009 interesting. The reason I say this is when I'm using the nailer with hd12.0 on a certain setting that has the nail head slightly below, switching to the hd8.0 itll be above. But now I want to verify. Maybe I'll make a short video showing what I mean.
@tenflat2009
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelp9238 oh I believe that. I've had similar results with my tools too. I suppose the larger cell would be like having a larger line v smaller line to drain a tank. Both can do the job, but the larger one is more efficient. There are oddities however in my experience with the batteries though. For example, my "strongest" battery is 12.0 as you might expect. The second best however is my 6.0hd... less run time but more chooch than the 8.0 or 9.0(a huge dud in my book). Unless I've got some Frankenstein 6.0 in my toolbox... I wonder if the extra depth could be related to the tool package having a greater weight? Probably not but maybe.
@histguy101
11 ай бұрын
@@tenflat2009 You'll get that performance on the table saw for a few months maybe until the 12.0 starts to wear out, then you'll need like 3-5 12.0s to get through 2x material
Bosch 10” portable tablesaw with stand. 18 amp, 3650 rpm, weighs 93 lbs...We love it!!! Thanks for all the great content!!!
@Stoptheliars
5 жыл бұрын
I knew that saw was heavy but 93 lbs my boss had one and many jobs I used it and had to load it in and out of the truck myself I thought I was lifting 60-70lbs
I realize this is coming a bit late but I put a new Metabo HPT 36v cordless table saw in to service recently and I have to say this thing is a monster! It seems to have more power than my old reliable corded DW 745 which was the last corded tool that remained in the crew truck! With the local electrical codes as they are, I was spending more time resetting breakers than working! Getting rid of cords has made my life much easier/efficient and made the inspectors smile as well! This is the only 10" cordless table saw on the market that I know of and with a 35" rip and 3 1/4" depth of cut your getting shop saw capacity in a jobsite saw! The bonus with this saw is the available AC adapter cord so you can also run corded in a pinch!
Bosch table saw with the fold up gravity job site stand. folds up rolls rite in and out of job sites. Folds up and goes against the wall to save room when not in use. Good power and very functional.
@michaelcooper6004
3 жыл бұрын
That’s right Chris. I’ve had my Bosch about twelve years. Cuts all woods pretty well. Corded on a Rigid wheel cart.
Proof of concept turned out awesome!! I feel that if a person is gonna own a single tablesaw it should be corded!
@FAMILIAxMICHOACANA
5 жыл бұрын
He should have used the 12 amp battery on the Milwaukee though, that's what that saw is suppose to use, but I agree with the corded saw is better.
@garradmiller5025
5 жыл бұрын
Not a fair comparison to the DeWalt. Milwaukee sells the kit with a high output 12ah for a reason.
@John-lq7hs
4 жыл бұрын
5 amp is for a drill or small tool not the table saw obviously.
@darrinbush5953
4 жыл бұрын
Hitachi makes a awesome table saw for the price
@loucifer323
4 жыл бұрын
@@codyjmason Yeah but the dewalt he used the 6amp battery and it uses 18650 cells even though these two saws are equal in power using the 12amp batteries this where 60v tools outperform 18/20v tools
I should've never sold my corded Dewalt table saw...In all fairness these little table saws are amazing. They are just not heavy duty like their corded brothers. I already know I am asking a lot out of these saws but I wish they had a corded/cordless option.
@steverone7623
5 жыл бұрын
Can't you plug in some dewalt 60volt with an adapter
@FinishCarpentryTV
5 жыл бұрын
dropn loads as far as I know it’s only the miter saw.
@MrWaffle47
5 жыл бұрын
Metabo just released a flexvolt corded or cordless tablesaw might be worth a look
@bendaniel6245
5 жыл бұрын
Im impatiently waiting for the hitachi cordless 36v saw. It can use the plug in adapter, but for now my worm drive skill table saw is the ripping beast for my job sites .
@Nov3lla00
5 жыл бұрын
Do the cut in a few passes instead of one. Helps a ton!
Tip from an old guy! I'm sure you have figured out your table saw issue by now, so here's a tip to expand on your set up. Hopefully you got one with an included base for starters. Take 2 Kreg tabes and use the runner holders that came with them and then, make 3- 2x4x8's out of plywood. (much more straight, true and stable). Cut a 4x8 piece of finish grade plywood into 2' x 4' pieces. Round over edges on all 4. 2 of the 2x4's go on the sides of course, while the 3rd is optional. The 3rd can be cut to length and secured down the center for stability. Depending on terrain, you will probably need to shim a leg or two, to get it "close enough'. You then will have a out feed table for your table and mitre saws, your router, as well as a set up and assembly table ..........and, a place to jot down a crapload of bad math. :)
I really enjoy your vids... thank you. I use the 12 amp battery on the Milwalkee table saw and circular saw. It seems to greatly improve power not just run time. At lease for me
@j.79
2 жыл бұрын
I realize the video is 3 years old. You are 100% correct, you're supposed to use 9AH or better 12AH high output Red Lithium HD batteries on these tools. The regular 5AH batteries can't deliver the amount of power needed to run the saw which is bad for the battery and the power tool.
dryer vent hose and a pillowcase on that planer does the trick - pillowcase lets the air through.
@preago
5 жыл бұрын
Bosch TS1004, $12 on Amazon. Collects a good amount of waste and will fit exhaust port on that planer.
@92hbhb
5 жыл бұрын
I used a large cotton polo shirt, sewed a zipper at the bottom so I could seal it, sewed up all one arm opening, top cillar. I left the remaining arm open to attach to a 4" dryer vent pipe that runs to the exhaust of my planer.. I know it's completely full when I start seeing shavings escape from under the knives and sliding table... Works great, collects 98% of the shavings, and the shavings make for perfect fire starting..
@mteske1
5 жыл бұрын
Good tips here
@frankrubeshaw4673
5 жыл бұрын
I have the same planer and I hooked it up to the five gallon dust deputy hooked up to a 55 gallon blue drum. Works great. I did a job where I had to plane 1.5” Dougfir to 1” there backyard looked like it snowed. Hahaha. After a long clean up the next week I got the dust deputy. I also hook it to the table saw and chopsaw with a shop vac. No shop vec for planed due to its own blower fan
@bunnylewis6557
4 жыл бұрын
panty hose works great as well
I love my Grizzly G0690. I doesn’t skip a beat, never boggs down at all. Just a steady, consistent speed. And the fence is awesome.
@chefsteven34
5 жыл бұрын
Scott O'Hare Thank you Scott, I will look into that one also. I have a Powermatic & jet on my narrow down list.
I had a Bosch contractor saw for a few years and now I have a DeWalt. Of the two I prefer the DeWalt, because it's far lighter, has plenty of power, and the fence is super accurate. Great saw, highly recommended.
@sevenohm3375
4 ай бұрын
I don’t think his problem is the saws. It’s the batteries obviously. 5ah standard Milwaukee batteries do not have nearly enough power to run that tool. That saw requires a 12. The Dewalt on a 15 ah will tear shit up. The mulwaukee is actually the most powerful cordless and rivals most corded models. That saw is supposed to be the shit. It’s not the riving knife. You need to get a bigger battery. Like you said ah is just run time. Watts out is what you’re interested in.
Your vids are great. I wish I had this platform 20 years ago. Some of the things you are trying out are original, but the old school methods that few young guys are taught, are still the best way to go.
The garbage bag idea didn't work because it blocks air flow.
@Taylormade2350
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Adams he had a hole in the bag for airflow.
@mikehikes710
4 жыл бұрын
@@Taylormade2350 not enough
@Taylormade2350
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Rycc yeah, it’s so impossible to make a hole bigger in a plastic bag.
@Oo7Hola
4 жыл бұрын
Should have but bunch of small holes in there.
@jcoul1sc
4 жыл бұрын
Need to use fabric bag or vacuum. Simples
Having spent years in production woodshops, I'd never expect a battery saw to be able to tackle such a big hunk of Maple like that. That's more for a big 5hp shop saw. I have to say, I'm pretty damn impressed with that DeWalt saw.
Oh and by the way, I generally love the videos you put out, being a professional and very fussy carpenter myself, I appreciate your attention to detail and pride in your work
I love my Bosch table saw. It’s sets up and folds up super fast. It cuts great and it rocks for a job saw.
DeWalt 15-Amp Corded 10 in. Job Site Table Saw with Rolling Stand, I brought one and I love it well worth the money. Plus it stands up on end when not in use, saving space.
@terrymoeller6464
4 жыл бұрын
And half the power.
I use a pillow case on my planer! Works great lets air go out but large chips stay in! Not saying it's as effective as a dust system but really does the job for the free!
@scuddrunner1
5 жыл бұрын
I have the same planer. It comes with an attachment for hooking up a shop vac.
@imherehello117
5 жыл бұрын
My pillowcases cost $24 each
@LDeezy662
5 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm here dang fella!! You sleeping on that GOOD stuff! Haha
@athhud
5 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm here definitely not using my Sferra pillowcases for dust collection. Lol. Might have to rob the Elsa/Ana Frozen pillow case from my daughters.
@randyoreilly8699
5 жыл бұрын
Garbage bag with a rag taped to it works too! I like the pillow case idea.
You should consider laying down a roofing tarp 15'x20' to catch saw dust from impeding into your grass. I always set up on a tarp, makes cleanup easier and looks way more professional.
I love my SawStop Contractor saw. Not to big but also heavy enough to be really stable.
Haven't used a table saw in a few years but the last one I used was the bosch one that folds up and it worked really well.
You made me spit my coffee out this morning when I saw you reach in the planner exhaust before turning it off, then you realized you better turn it off. Looking good
@ghanatekton8459
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Fisher your right. I try to keep hands away from everything Tablesaw. Router planer. I saw my friend run out my shop he ran his fingers in planer It just nipped the end but it’s terrible and always use the push stick or whatever to keep hands clear of moving blades. Also when using utility knife. Keep hand above blade if cutting down then your never in danger. It’s just a think before you do action
@evgeniiantipin
4 жыл бұрын
this guy doesn't think twice
@1pcfred
4 жыл бұрын
Unless you had child's hands there's no way you could get down to the cutter head.
The milwaukee table saw was designed to be used with high output batteries
@Frogswilly
4 жыл бұрын
Won’t change they are over priced junk
@planeiron241
4 жыл бұрын
lol you no nothing about milling maple he first needs a good blade a new industrial frued thin kerf rip blade 24T..the rip blade will make that saw look good and it will saw through the maple like butter..looks like he has a worn out blade on the hobby saw. myself I would run a 20T Forrest rip blade with at least a 5HP 750 lbs PM66...first he need to run the boards through a jointer 1 side flat then hit the edge for str that will help the saw some
@Fee.1
4 жыл бұрын
Yea and he would need 6 of them for one tool in this case
@micdiva
4 жыл бұрын
@@planeiron241 even a 5hp table saw with no riving kinfe wil bogg
@planeiron241
4 жыл бұрын
@@seantyree8443 that's cool bro. you do good work
Multivolt Metabo HPT...best of both..cordless for convenience, corded when you need it. Great real world use video..appreciate your quality content!! Thanks!!
I have the DeWalt dwe7491rs. Love the fence system on it! It can handle the demands of the job.
Makita job site saw set into a collapsable stand. (Rousseau 2780 Table Saw Stand) I've had this set up 20 years and has been perfect for ripping large stock if needed. The beefier fence and out feed extension is what makes it brilliant!
@robertweeks1034
5 жыл бұрын
Skyline Photography | Aerial & Real Estate Photography Totally agree, the Makita 10” with a Rousseau stand is the ticket. I have a 5hp Unisaw that I haven’t used in 10 years. No need with the Makita. This is the most underreported saw combo on the market.
Flexvolt Dewalt are awesome so far. I'm on my 5th tool with those, and they just run circles around other cordless.
i think those table saws are really designed for the HD 12.0 batteries
@RoberForst
5 жыл бұрын
I need to use the 12HD to get good performance out of mine.
@BryanBowenArchangelBarachiel
4 жыл бұрын
@@RoberForst I bought 2x 12 HD for my worm drive since I knew they would need it same for Compound Miter Saw and table saw though we would all like a cord option.
@fefgam
4 жыл бұрын
Min 9ah
@justinhc123
4 жыл бұрын
Switch to Flexvolt. Problem solved even on the smaller 6ah batteries. My Flexvolt stuff runs circles around my M18.
@Taylormade2350
4 жыл бұрын
Bryan Bowen Milwaukee doesn’t make a worm drive saw.
Older craftsman 113 belt drive. You can buy them for about $200 on CL. They are about 30 years old but are awesome.
Need a High output, high demand battery on that Milwaukee bro. You will see a difference. That 5.0 XC battery isn’t good for much more than pine.
@MrJcray
4 жыл бұрын
Justin Thornton imagine hiring this tool for a job??
@JosephQPublic
4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Cline - like a tool rental?
@TheSubtleBeast
3 жыл бұрын
Yee
@Mike-wh9dq
2 жыл бұрын
M18 Table saw intended to be using the 12.0 battery for big jobs. Totally unfair comments about the Milwaukee tool from anyone who does not own one or from someone not using the preferred battery. Before bashing the saw, use the big battery and riving knife.
I've learned so much watching your videos. I am a painter by trade but I agree with you. When you see how things are put together you have a whole new appreciation for other trades
I'm in construction and have recently gotten back into fine wood woodworking. I got the Milwaukee table saw a few months ago for jobsites and it never let me down. For woodworking, it has cut extremely dense exotic hardwoods with ease. I am getting a SawStop for a few reasons, primarily the safety and I want a larger surface for cutting sheets and larger panels. I have a ton of batteries for probably around 40 M18 tools we use, and I primarily use the 12ah personally, so that's all I've even tried in the saw. I do wish someone made a zero clearance insert, the dado insert was made available, the fence was a bit more stout, and some other small things, but I have never experienced it not being able to make a cut.
@austinskillings5240
2 жыл бұрын
Because you had a 12.0 high output hd battery. He used a crappy normal battery that was not high output like your supposed to
If dewalt ever comes out with a corded conversion adaptor for the flex volt table saw I’ll definitely be a buyer. That would be the best of both worlds
Skilsaw worm drive table saw SPT99 works amazing, it's also a jobsite saw with a rolling stand. It also has a deeper cut than most jobsite saws
I dont have any pics but for some dust control ill often make me an adapter from pvc pipes and use an old radiator hose to reroute the dust into a big trash can. Most of the hoses will have bends thats sweep and allow the chips to easily flow through them. Its not perfect but it works. Also a tube sock works great for mitre saws because the air can actually pass thru it and it doesnt restrict the flow of the chips. love your vids!
I have a ridgid and love it and a lot of power. It folds up for storage in my tool trailer
@AerialLensVideo
4 жыл бұрын
Very happy with Ridgid R4510 series table saws. Plenty of power and Pro-Level fence. Table expands, too, and VERY mobile.
PRO TIP! I actually have the Milwaukee table saw and use it in my shop as a shop table saw. I mill my own lumber as well so I have experience cutting things like the 6/4 maple you planed in this video. I dado with this saw, I rip thick lumber you name it....changing the blade to a high-tooth-count diablo makes a YUGE difference on battery life. Also, since this is a OneKey tool you are supposed to be able to adjust the RPM on the motor to your liking. I have not tried that yet but that is what the marketing wank says. It can be done and it can actually keep up...maybe even the Dewalt too...but I don’t have experience with that one
@JoshD4PREZ
Жыл бұрын
Very late to the party but I can 2nd that changing from the 25T that came with it, to a 40T and 60T Diablo has made a world of difference. Also it seems to love the 6.0ah & 12.0ah high output batteries compared to the old XC 5.0’s
Wow, that's was a cool box detail video. The beauty of carpentry is that you never get bored and you learn something new evertime.
1947 my dad bought a 10" Craftsman table saw for my older bro it had a 2 HP Craftsman labeled motor. I and my two younger bros learned how to use and respect GOOD machinery. It was heavy, very heavy, cast iron table,My older bro inherited the saw when my dad died in the 60s.He used it to build three houses,plus neighbors often borrowed it to use for their jobs.Bro retired in the 60s and gave the saw to me. I used it as a trim carpenter for 30 years carrying it with help in the Houston area and burbs, Did dozens of medium and hi end houses. When I retired to Florida in 1990s I gave the saw, still working, as good as the day my dad bought it, to the young kid who walked into a house we were working on in River Oaks looking for a job decades ago. The saw was part of the deal when I turned over the trim biz to that same young kid We speak regularly and I visit often and he is always proud to show me how well that saw has been treated. I find it hard to wrap my mind around saws one man can carry particularly when so much of said saws are made of fiberglass etc.yeh yeh yeh I realize that the materials are much the same as the composites used in Boeing & Airbus products
U r awesome..brother..u teach me so much..those people with the thumbs down r haters.. u explain things so clear appreciate it brother..keep teaching and we and I will keep learning thanks again
Bosch 4100-09. Jobsite with gravity rise stand. Can handle hardwoods without blinking and can also fold out of the way.
@HBSuccess
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - the best small table saw on the market by far.
@quinwilson5657
5 жыл бұрын
I burned up a Hitachi job sight saw after 1 year of heavy use. Bought a DeWalt jobsaw, it lasted about a year and a half. Bought a Bosch job saw with collapsible base, it is still going strong 12 yrars later!
@ajs96350
5 жыл бұрын
I've had the same thing (now on version 2.0 ) for over 10 years, bulletproof.
@tedhensgen3879
4 жыл бұрын
Max Powers ,
Try the Hitachi C10RJ 10" 15-Amp Jobsite Table Saw , A bit bigger but still portable with good power for ripping. Keep a good blade and dust extraction on for maximum results
Delta makes a good table saw for your needs. Just keep in mind you got to keep the pressures on the wood: down, forward going through the blade and keeping pressure against the fence. That keeps the pressure off the blade; also having the splitter behind the blade helps. The GPR RIPPER 3-d push block is the best push block. It keeps those pressures I was talking about.
a few years back i purchased a dust collector from grizley and plumed my shop with 4inch pvc works great
Try the Bosch ts 4001 it's a Beast , it doesn't have rack and pinion fence but it's solid self squaring fence and you can use up to 1" dado and it's 4hp motor can rip anything without bogging down , it's good with the gravity rise stand and its compact , downside it's very heavy , but overall you can get lots of accessories as a side table and back extension , I am very happy with mine
Look into Delta table saws. They're not too big, not too expensive and are beasts (In my opinion).
@BlueOriginAire
5 жыл бұрын
Carpenter friend says he now swears by his Delta saw. They are tops in his shop.
I owned a Powermatic 2000, left-hand tilt, 3HP and used it in a one car garage. It has built-in wheels to make moving very easy. Plenty of power! I'd highly suggest looking at this brand. Had to sell it as we downsized and moved.
I'm a woodworker not a carpenter so use stationary table saws. I'm an old guy too. For me the blade is everything. I have a few varieties of rip blades, 'thin kerf', etc.all a little different, I do have some favorites. Takes time to change blades, but works for me. Thanks for your videos.
"I'm not trying to be the wood-whisperer here..." Made me laugh!
@mrklean0292
3 жыл бұрын
I heard him say it, but I didn't catch it until I read your reply.
Check out Metabo HPT Multivolt table saw, it's cordless AND corded!
I hook up my planer to a vent hose that goes to a bedsheet that I cut a hole in for the hose and clamped around it, and then I bungee corded the sheet over a trash can. The bed sheet is porous enough to let the air out, and the trash can catches the sawdust. Works great. I remember the first time I ran my DeWalt planer without a collector. My driveway looked like you could sawdust-ski on it.
Battery saws have amazing versatility, but sometimes you just need a plug in. Should always have both depending on job
3:00 in order for that to work you have to pop holes into the bag for the air to escape and then the wood shavings would fill the bag
Love your videos. I too have the easy set, router bit set, and router table from sommerfeld tools. My router table is yellow though, I bought it about 10 years ago and never had an issue at all.
I have a 60 yr old very heavy craftsman table saw in my garage. Works great. Cast iron table, 4 cast iron wings. Bought it at an estate sale for $200! If you are looking for small though, I also have the now obsolete DW745 jobsite saw. Same chassis as your battery powered Dewalt. I put an 80t Freud blade on it. I'm pleasantly surprised how well it works. Only downside to this saw is the short arbor won't let you put a dado head on it thats wider than ~3/8 inch (aftermarket) the newer DW7491 would be a good choice.
From the second you started cutting with the milwaukee it was obvious the blade was blunt. You can get away with it in soft wood but that maple is hard and needs a good sharp blade. Also if you actually want properly flat boards you need a jointer, skip planing will give you wavy boards.
@calstatelaalproductions2358
3 жыл бұрын
And you need more teeth on that saw blade for hardwood. I have been using Tenryu blades for years now, and you can’t get anything close to a good blade at Home Depot or Lowe’s.
@calstatelaalproductions2358
3 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee table saw also expects the use of their High Output specialty batteries, so I expect using those would have helped as well, especially their 12A High Output battery.
Ive got a skilsaw jobsite tablesaw I use for shop and field use. Incredible power and I was surprised how quiet it is. It slso rips at 30.5". It also has a great dust port system. Ive used several different jobsite and shop table saws and nothing is better then this saw. You will not be disappointed. Good luck on that and thanks for the great video's.
@georgecampbell2662
5 жыл бұрын
Hello how you doing great show once again I have been a contractor for years now I bought a rigid table saw when they first came out years ago it cut throw everything like butter drop down rolling stand you will love it not saying it's the best but it works like it is cheers take care
Hitachi 10" job site table saw (C10RJ). Comes with a really good stand.
This is why I have my DCB1800 Power Station. I also own the DWE7491RS table saw - full 120v power. For instances when I want a "battery powered table saw", I plug the DWE7491RS into my DCB1800 w/ 4 of the 9ah flexvolt batteries and have the capacity to literally cut/rip ANYTHING. Absolutely no compromise this way. And still... when I have access to 120v power (which I usually do), I still have my normal corded table saw. I also have not bothered "upgrading" to a cordless miter saw for the same reason. With my DCB1800, I am able to use my full size (and full-power) table saw, miter saw and even my 12" dewalt planer all on battery with absolutely no compromise.
I only own the Milwaukee table saw and it has handled every job I’ve required of it but I do use 12.0 batteries exclusively.
I use the Skill job site table saw, it's a worm drive. Very hard to stall it out.
@TheRedlaser666
5 жыл бұрын
I second this opinion. I have the skill worm drive saw and it is powerful.
@proline5645
5 жыл бұрын
Yes that's a great saw very powerful
@jaredmpp7633
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I use it to build decks, and it can handle a wet 4x4.
@dustinpomeroy8817
5 жыл бұрын
How is the rack and pinion fence holding up?that's the only thing that's kept me on the fence ,I like rack and pinion but I was just wondering how they have held up as far as alignment
@alucardlledroc
5 жыл бұрын
One I have is a job site saw with no rack and pinion. Fence was not trued the from factory but still not a deal breaker and it's still fine.
Don't cut full depth with the first cut on the table saw. Try going 3/4 then a finish cut to releave some of the stress in the boards.
I own the Milwaukee. 600$. I built pressure treated Victorian garage doors with it. The wood was wet, really wet. The saw performed better than expected. I forgot it was cordless until I packed up for the night. The fence is rack and pinion which I love. It stays square. The bevel feature is smooth too. I made up some window trim and it worked out great. The only drawback is 600$.
Ridgid 4512. It's been pretty good to me in my woodworking shop. Powerful and precise enough for the affordable price used.
Bosch. table saw 4100 . or Bosch Reaxx GTS1041A .. 15 amp super strong I'm using for years
@Rezman55
5 жыл бұрын
I second the Bosch 4100, we have the gravity assist stand for it at work (carpenter for a GC) and it has all the power you will ever need. We rip Ipe deck boards (5/4) through it no problem, plus with the stand it literally stands up straight making it very compact to store. Can be a bit heavy with the stand, but I believe the latest model cut down on the weight substantially.
@cannabiskreations
5 жыл бұрын
@@Rezman55 lol deck boards are not solid maple. No jobsite table saw is going to cut that easily. This requires a cabinet saw at 5hp. Deck builders will never understand this.
Dude u need to run the 12.0 on the table saw. That’s way they sell it with the 12.0 NOT the 5.0 totally different cells
@dannydee9919
4 жыл бұрын
I love Milwaukee, however that table saw is junk, 5.0, 12.0 or whatever it runs on..
@shifty277
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!!! The Dewalt Flexvolt has 60v of power and probably 1400w through the battery continuously. The Milwaukee has 18v of power and probably 800w from that 5.0 battery. If he has put the high demand 9 or 12 amp battery that can do 1400w as well and it kept stalling then you can say fair enough!
@hypersniper23
4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that the DeWalt is a better designed saw then? Yeah, I'd agree with that.
@raunefare
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't change the watt the batteries can draw. The only thing smart about 54v is that you get lower Amps running Ind the motor= Smaller gauges wire and maybe less heat. Most test I have seen says that the Milwaukee I more powerful than the DeWalt. But the DeWalt is more efficient
@accountluca5959
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe dewalt is helped by dividing wedge, missing in milwaukee...
I just bought a Bosch 4000 w/ folding stand at a pawn shop, works good for me @ $250
Enjoy watching your videos. I live in Canada and I have a small shop with limited space too, so I purchased a Ridgid R4512 shop tablesaw with built-in wheels from home depot . Now I can move it out of the way when not in use and lots of power for ripping. AP
just switched to the new Skillsaw Worm Table Saw and that thing is a beast, highly recommend it
@carsongoodman5581
4 жыл бұрын
Josh Alonso it’s awesome. Never really need to rip a 4x4 but I did when I got it and dang. It’s unstoppable
@mr.klutchrednose2700
4 жыл бұрын
SO BOTH OF U FELLOWS LIKE THE SKILSAW TABLE SAW 🤔😑🤔😑.... ANY KONS ON IT THANK U 🙋🏿♂️🙋🏿♂️🙋🏿♂️🙋🏿♂️
A Makita 10 inch I have one it’s great it’s portable lots of power .
@ericmann1781
3 жыл бұрын
I love that one, the motor is super efficient too, amp spikes are much better than other brands.
Richard, hopefully you still monitor and respond to subs in your older videos! I just watched your joint video with Vince again. In the video I NOTICED something that’s consistent in both that video and this one concerning the Milwaukee Table Saw. You’re not using the riving knife, which not only is a safety concern, it makes the saw work harder as the wood pinches the blade. The only thing I can figure out is you may not have know where it’s located on the saw. Because just as the Flexvolt allows the different saw components to be stored underneath...so does the Milwaukee!! In addition and this is a big one...the Milwaukee saw has a one touch lever that allows the riving knife to be removed or inserted without removing the throat cover. This is huge, because on the Dewalt it’s a time consuming process, e.g. remove battery, remove throat cover, unscrew retention screw, then insert or remove riving knife, put throat cover back in place, replace battery. Knowing you from watching the majority of your videos and how much you like cool features and devices, if you knew about this new feature designed into the Milwaukee saw, you would’ve talked it up and been all over it! You definitely would’ve had the riving knife in place!!
I used a dryer vent hose and just ran it to a large trash can. Tried an old shop vac hose too. Put a contractor bag in the can, cut a hole in the lid so the hose would fit loosely and BAM! All the shavings go into a bag ready to be used or disposed of. Don't run the hose too great a distance. Using old trash can and bought the hose...cheap and it works!
5 hp powermatic 230 single phase w/ long rails... we have one at work that tips ~40 hrs a week... been running for 30 years according to boss man
I'm not sure if the Dewalt tablesaw can use a cord in lieu of the batteries out of the box, but there's an adapter that costs about $50 that you can use to plug into a wall socket.
@scotland2256
5 жыл бұрын
Cant believe I never heard of this, do you know if it works with circular saw as well ?
@tanman102
4 жыл бұрын
Dewalt makes a corded adapter for the 120volt Flexvolt tools, so that the equipment can run on either the pair of 60V flexvolt batteries or the corded adapter. As of 2019 there is not an official adapter for the 60V tool lineup.
Thanks for another great video man. I found an awesome table saw. Its an old ryobi from the 90s. Big power, excellent fence system, router mount, and a stand type base so it's easily transported to a job if necessary. It has a unique adjustable table as well. Eats hard woods fine and true. Gotta love Craigslist.
I have a 3hp Sawstop with a 36” rip fence. It wasn’t too big until I added the sliding table. 69” without the sliding table. So not to terrible. The bigger question is are you planning on milling. Because that does take more room. May want to check out some of the shop layouts on KZread. Some big things come out of some small spaces. Have a good one. 😊
delta makes a good one for 600$. Grizzly makes some good table saws for a good price too
@MJCPeters
5 жыл бұрын
I am happy with the delta. It is the best I found at that price range.
@jimkramer
5 жыл бұрын
Love my Delta - Lowes has it. Awesome saw. You can run it 240v, or 120v. Torque is a little better when @ 240v IMO.
@blake102989
5 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about getting the delta but have seen some reviews that say the fence sucks on it. How is it for you or how accurate and sturdy is it
@MJCPeters
5 жыл бұрын
blake102989 I can only compare it to my old saw, which had a terrible (unsafe) fence. The fence is great on the Delta! If you are a perfectionist it can be fine tuned, but mine was near perfect out of the box. Unless you go up a lot in price you will not find a better saw. Trust me I spent over a year deliberating. The only two things to beware of are: 1. Spend time assembling it to get each step near perfect before moving on to the next step. Most complaints I've heard could be resolved by following the proper setup (not that hard if you search KZread for tutorials) 2. Some complained of getting bad motors in the past. In that case it is a pain to return this for an exchange. I was lucky mine is working fine.
@blake102989
5 жыл бұрын
@@MJCPeters I was thinking it was idiots that didnt know how to put something together right but I wasnt sure. I have the cheap kobalt portable one right now and the fence on it sucks forsure lol. I'll have to get rid of it and get the delta then. Thanks bud.
I love my corded DeWalt jobsite saw. Maybe combine with a track saw for full functionality.
@jessewestlund5159
5 жыл бұрын
I second this. I have the 10" Rigid job site corded table saw and a clamp on track for my cordless circle saw and it's an unstoppable set up.
I use the Rigid 10". It sits on a good quality stand that folds up. It has a GREAT fence and plenty of power, also comes with removable riving knife. It's well built and a great jobsite table saw. It's a bit bulky. If you can get it on site, I know you'll be very happy with it. It's in the neighborhood of 500.00. Well worth it, definitely! David per Wood N Nails. 34 yrs carpenter.
That was the best video I've seen on the cordless table saws. It was what I always suspected but had never seen on any video. Thank you.
@Marley20
5 жыл бұрын
david lebold reason why I don’t trust battery powered equipment other than screw drivers
Metabo hpt. Makes one. Its hard to find. Its like the dewalt flexvolt system. But its corded and cordless
The Milwaukee saw is not designed to use a 5.0amp battery. You need to put the 12.0amp High Output battery in it and it will cut great, I use mine all the time, in fact I usually use it over my 10" corded Ridgid Table Saw because I like the features and fit and finish better and I also like the soft start and the fact that its much quieter!
@cannabiskreations
5 жыл бұрын
He knows. Hes been told before. I dont know why he did but apparently vince at vcg telling him this in person wasn't good enough.
If you are looking for a table saw to keep in the garage, spend the money and get a cabinet saw. You will never regret it ! And don't get a direct drive one either. Get one that has 2 or 3 belts from the motor to the blade. I have an old 12 inch General that sits on a Shopfox base that lets me move it around and it has NEVER stalled on me cutting boards. Just my opinion. Keep up the great videos !
Hey man how’s it going. I’m in the same boat as you. I’ve done my research on about 8 different table saws and the one I have set on my mind is the Dewalt DEW7491RS. It’s not cordless but that thing is a beast. And I heard you say you don’t have a lot of room. It folds up and has a very sturdy roll-cage. $599 at Lowe’s and Home Depot. I would definitely look into this one! 🍻 happy Woodworking! That design came out really good.
Skilsaw tablesaw with the worm drive is a beast and under $400ish dollars. Definitely more powerful than the two battery powered ones you are using now
@adramirez7743
5 жыл бұрын
I have the spt99-12 and I love it. Lots of power and it folds up.building a removable out feed table for it.
I've got a skilsaw jobsite saw (wormdrive and crazy power) in a rousseau saw stand and that for me is the sauce
I always put an 90 degree ABS elbow on the exhaust and then a large garbage can directly beneath it.....reduces the shrapnel by about 80-90%.
I am on my second dewalt job site saw...and I love it!..I won't use another table saw...the fence adjustment is perfect...and if you knock it off line, you can set it up so easy!!!...I can't think of anything I don't like about the dewalt jobsite table saw..except the price!!..LOL.
I love my dewalt contractor saw. Electric plus folds up great
@MrBrianDuga
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is what I have. It's great. That roll away stand is worth it's weight in gold.
I absolutely love my Dewalt Jobsite with rolling stand!
@keto4life197
3 жыл бұрын
Also the best choice in the cheapest end
I use a 10” Mikita for job sight work that is a plug in saw. Had it for twenty years and it still kicks ass. The battery saw can’t handle the constant use. Works great with a 10” Mikita blade. For my shop I use 10” Delta cabinet saw, which is great.
I use a lot of cordless saws and drills in my line of work doing custom woodwork and cabinetry , but one thing I won't do is give up my Bosch electric jobsite table saw, there is no substitute for that power with a new 60 tooth carbide blade. I use both electric Glide mitre saw and cordless Dewalt 12" compound saw.
Just fyi 12.0 is meant for that Milwaukee. saw to work because of the HIGH OUTPUT feature.
@jps101574
5 жыл бұрын
I wish people would do their research before doing tool reviews. This guy clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. You are using the wrong battery! It's not the saw, it's you! You can't use a 5.0 battery in a Milwaukee table saw and expect good results. Even a 9.0 Milwaukee battery is under powered for that saw. Milwaukee 12.0 batteries can put out MORE power than a plug-in outlet on a 15 Amp circuit. Milwaukee battery capacities: (5.0 - 40 Amps) (9.0 - 60 Amps) (6.0 and 8.0 - 70 Amps) (12.0 - 105 Amps). Use the right battery then you can give an honest review.
@FAMILIAxMICHOACANA
5 жыл бұрын
@@jps101574 Thats what I was about to comment
@MUFFDIVER4U
5 жыл бұрын
@@jps101574 Thanks bro. I just read your comment. It definitely helped me select my table saw.
@jps101574
5 жыл бұрын
@@MUFFDIVER4U Let me know how you like it.
@MUFFDIVER4U
5 жыл бұрын
@@jps101574 Will do bud.
I have the Ridgid jobsite saw work's real nice for me. Was thinking of getting the Milwaukee battery jobsite saw but maybe Not.
@Palpac
5 жыл бұрын
Nick Persenaire after seeing this I think I will stay with a corded table saw
@jonellwanger7258
4 жыл бұрын
Well, if you use a sharp blade, and the proper batteries, bet that Milwaukee would fair a lot better
I use a sawstop jobsite pro. It is mobile and 15amp corded. Doesnt take up a lot of space when folded down on the cart.
I’ve been working with pine and I use the Milwaukee table saw with only 12 amp batteries and I’ve had no issues so far. I actually had a corded dewalt but it kept having issues when ripping down pine so I returned it and got the Milwaukee table saw
The M18 Fuel table saw won't perform in any acceptable fashion without a High Output battery. When cutting anything substantial that is. The HP battery comes in a 12ah, 8ah, 6ah, and now the new 3ah. Even the 3ah HP will outperform even a standard 9ah battery in that saw, which seems crazy to say. the new High Output tools need more current to perform how they were designed to. The 18650 based batteries just can not feed enough current, even if they are a high capacity (I.e. a 9ah). It needs 21700 cells to get the power you were hoping for... I enjoyed the video, hope you can get out on the water soon and set some hooks!
@areabum
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I bought the flexvolt before the M18 was available, and wanted to switch. Most of my tools are milwaukee and it's a pain to drag around an extra charger and battery just for the table saw.
@82camino96
5 жыл бұрын
Sergey Pober hahahaha I hear ya brother. It would definitely be nice if we could actually have all the tools we want from a single brand. At this point I’m into almost every platform and it can definitely be overwhelming when I pack for jobs. But, there’s also nothing better than being able to choose from any brand when I need a tool instead of settling for what one brand offers. They all excel in different areas I’ve learned. Although, 75% of my batteries and tools are Milwaukee and Makita. Between the two, most of my needs are covered and I think they go well together... Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about the table saw you bought. I know that the Dewalt is an excellent tool, and it was a cutting edge breakthrough in innovation. Many people in fact actually prefer the Dewalt for certain reasons and I’d bet there are aspects of the Dewalt that you’d prefer over the Milwaukee and vice versa... I bought the Milwaukee last summer, as I wasn’t in the Dewalt platform yet at the time and I had many many M18 batteries. But I definitely considered the Flexvolt. I think it’s probably a win whichever way you go with these table saws.
@areabum
5 жыл бұрын
@@82camino96 Agree with you there. I have tools from about every brand as well. But lately I've just been finding myself only really using the M18's. With the 6 port charger it's really easy to just have plenty of batteries ready to go and not need to bring separate chargers for makita and dewalt. I work on hotels now and the less stuff I have to haul up 5 flights of stairs the better. haha
@highroyale
5 жыл бұрын
Should of started with the 12ah battery first this is why Milwaukee didn't sell the tools in tool only form so people didn't get confused and try whatever battery on them.
I use $5 laundry bag from Walmart to collect dust
It’s probably too late but I’ve been loving my Delta 36-725, since it’s cast iron and maneuverable and cheap. Its biggest downside is dust collection, but that was fixed by adding a shark guard vacuum port to the riving knife , plugging all of the cavities, removing the dust port in the back and adding a dust collection bag on the bottom of the unit. Also make sure you have a dedicated breaker for it or wire it to 240V. It suffers without sufficient power (that goes with any saw). If I had the money, I would go with a sawstop, not for the safety, but for its dust collection since it requires no modifications.
I burned up a Hitachi job sight saw after 1 year of heavy use. Bought a DeWalt jobsaw, it lasted about a year and a half. Bought a Bosch job saw with collapsible base, it is still going strong 12 years later!