Sony does make compact primes. They have the line of f2.5 G lenses, i think they come in 24mm, 40mm, 50mm. And then sigma also have the I line which is their compact primes for FF emount.

Totally agree that Sony needs to roll out high-end f1.8 or f2 lenses. The 20mm sets the bar. Would love to see a 28mm f1.8 G, made as compact as possible. Would turn the a7c into a Q3. 35mm and 50mm f1.8 G would be great too, but 28 would be my vote.

@molybdnum

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The 28 f/2 is sensibly small but just meh with the proliferation of 1.8/1.4 primes from Sony and the newer Chinese companies. I gather that it's not a popular focal length for manufacture because 24 is pretty close and has more appeal as a standalone prime since many zooms cover 28 and 24 conveniently becomes 35 on APS-C.

@vandalton4948

9 ай бұрын

totally. As a street photography enthusiast I want affordable but small Sony systems.

@BenHowlandPhoto

9 ай бұрын

They already make fantastic slower primes in the 35/1.8, 55/1.8, 85/1.8.

@danielhuang2488

9 ай бұрын

35 is a must

@thehotdoglover

9 ай бұрын

@@BenHowlandPhoto yeah those are great lenses. would like to see them updated with the modern "G" design. Aperture rings, superior build quality, etc.

Great review man! I’ll be shopping for a Sony Camera real soon and this vid will help me decide. Thank you!

IMO your spot on about size. Personally I am looking for something compact that can also be versatile. One day I might want to be stealthy for street photography and the next have a long lens for portraits.

@theartofphotography I am in love with the idea of the A7CR for an amateur, do-it-all, high res camera. I actually recently pre-ordered it. I do have a question though! I am very interested in both travel photography, documentary/family, and nighttime landscapes. Do I lose anything (A7CR vs. A7RV) besides the beautiful LCD for nighttime / astro landscapes? I know people will say the CII and RIV will have better lowlight at the expense of mpg but it doesn't sound like that big of a compromise. The A7RV can be purchased new for just a couple hundred more than the A7CR from some vendors. Given the price difference is so narrow, should I be looking at the A7RV for my needs? I love the small size and really think it is a great 2-1 camera. Take the grip off, throw on a compact G prime and walk around with friends/family. Put a 24mm 1.4 or the new 16-35mm on it and it becomes a pro-level landscape camera. Appreciate any and all feedback!

Agree with this about small lenses...

Your comment about the A7C’s shutter noise, turns out there’s a speaker that adds noise. If you cover the speaker holes on the top logo side of the camera it’s way quieter and sounds much better.

I disagree about the modular EVF, I had them for several m4/3 cameras and ended up never using them. I would definitely appreciate an upgrade on the a7cii but I want it right where it is now. Additionally it would place it in the center of the camera, which would negate the form factor, I love the a7c precisely because it's a "rangefinder" style body. My right eye is super weak, and I don't like mashing my face into my thumb with a SLR style one. That's one upgrade I was really hoping for, so I'm a bit bummed it didn't arrive, but otherwise I am very excited about the step up the mark ii is over my a7c. As an aside it looks so good with that little voigtlander on there. Can't wait to do that with the silver version.

A good review. For the people using third party manual lenses. Still get meter readings & focus peaking in EVF/ rear screen? Thank you for any replies.

Thank you for pointing out the small details with the mechanical shutter and evf.

I thought they do have smaller lenses. Firstly you have the 35mm F1.8 (Which is an amazing lens), and then you have the G lenses (24mm, 40mm and 50mm). You also have the 50mm F1.8 and the 85mm F1.8 which are also pretty light. I am looking at these and thinking they are a great option as a backup/second body. I do wish they had the new tilt and flip screen though.

@samireivinen

9 ай бұрын

Those lenses could be smaller or faster.

@MikeMarrah

9 ай бұрын

​@@samireivinenthe 35 1.8, 55 1.8, and 85 1.8 are all already pretty small...

I agree. I'm getting just because I prefer rangefinder over slr. As annoying as everyone claims the evf is, the one on the original a7c was preferable to the one on the A7iv to me. The form factor trumps everything, it's more comfortable to not have to smash my face into the camera body and also maintain environmental awareness by having my other eye open and looking around.

It’s great to see the Loxia lens in use on this. Really curious to know your experience with it on the CR. I’m with you in that this is the most intriguing of the two for my uses. Regarding other lenses I do think the Sony G-lenses, the 24mm, 40mm and 50mm would be a natural fit. I have owned the 50G and found it incredibly competent both in utility and resolution on the a7riii and a7riv. Maybe Sony will produce 28mm and 85mm versions of this family?! Like you the lack of EVF magnification really hurts for me personally - I wear glasses all of time, so that small and narrow EVF pushes my eye way back, and I just prefer to frame that way but can’t say it’s a complete dealbreaker. Thank you for the thoroughness and thoughtfulness as always!

have you tried the additional eye cup ? , it really makes a difference

Hi Ted, Thank you for a great review! I am in the market for a new camera and had zeroed in on A7III, but with these 2 new releases, I'll have to re-evaluate my thinking a bit. Any suggestions? Also, I cant help but notice your watch :) Can you share the make and brand. Thanks again

this seems to be one of the more honest and from an actual photographer that shoots a lot reviews

If you want tactile F2 primes, Sigma has some incredible lenses for sale. The challenge with an optional EVF instead of built-in is that it handicaps flash use.

You went right to the point, thanks!

Literally the one feature I use the most on the a7C original is moving the focal point, then dialing it in with the manual rings on my lens. A joystick for this work would be awesome. ngl, I'm kinda a fanboy of the form factor, so I hope to own both very soon. That being said, I think the II will be my first grab. Thanks for the info and your thoughts!

@JasonTaylor-po5xc

28 күн бұрын

LOL - I'm guessing that I'll eventually get both myself. Seems crazy to even consider. I have the original A7C too, so I may sell it to help with that. The original was less than magical - certainly felt the compromise from the A7III but the form factor is the kill app - especially as I age. I don't even want to bring my heavy good glass with me - preferring the travel-friendly "good enough" compact lenses.

Thank you for the first impressions. Still holding out for the RX1R mark ii.

@MrFL08

9 ай бұрын

You coulda had that in 2015… III?

@POVwithRC

9 ай бұрын

​@@MrFL08Calm down Capt. Correction

@18yearsoldnot

9 ай бұрын

You could be waiting a while because last we heard from zeiss (full frame lenses) was in 2018. The rx1r camera was always about the sonnar 35 f2. Just like the q3 around the summilux 1.7.

@radioactivecat

9 ай бұрын

I loved the rx1r ii- except that x battery was absolutely horrendous. I had to keep at least 3/4 of them with me if I wanted to do a modest days travel.

@donalone

9 ай бұрын

You mean RX1R3?

Thank you for your excellent video,.. I noticed at around ..7:50.. you were discussing “ the tiny EVF “ and it looked like to me you were using your left eye ? The reason I am commenting about this and bring it up,..is that I have a problem with my right eye of diminishing vision, and I use my left eye when focusing my A7r4 ,.. So I’m considering purchasing the A7CR and how this “ Range Finder “ style.. EVF…will work for me using my left eye ?

I'll have to actually handle the camera, mainly so I can see if the slight improvement in the EVF makes it a camera I can live with. I had the A7C and sold it after a few months because I just could not live with that EVF.

I also want that small but hi spec camera and small f2 lenses. That would be a killer combo. Maybe a1c?

Sony have the f/2.5 G series compact prime lenses which are pretty great. They would pair great with these new bodies. That 40mm f/2.5 G lens is one of my favorites lenses, even over my G Masters.

@Spartacus1975

9 ай бұрын

Yes, I love my Sony 40mm F 2.5 too, I use it often on my A7R III. In some way also my favourite lens and I also have several GM-lenses.

@rmrfboy

3 ай бұрын

i have the sony 50mm f2.5, its like the perfect match! my goodness, not sure if other people have this combo. so small. i usually don't need wide open as everything is just too soft and mushy for normal photos. f2.5 is actually the sweetspot! you can still get separation.

very honest and balanced review, thank you. I would love an interchangeable lens Q3 but its not going to happen😕

Re your desire for Sony to make smaller prime lenses to go with the 'C'ompact line - Is there something different you're looking for than the 3 prime lenses Sony released in early 2021 ? Those were the 24mm f2.8, and a 40mm & 50mm f2.5s - you did a video on them and really liked them. Just curious if I missed something...

While I agree with you in "the C series should also be top-range", I think at least some of the models should be more affordable than the full-sized-original and the full-featured-C models. Currently, I'm happy the C models are significantly cheaper than the full-sized ones they're derived from. And the sacrifices (EVF, single SD card, lack of 8k) aren't that big an issue - at least for me.

They have 3 compact lenses that released with the original A7C.

I wouldn't buy these cameras because of the lower price, but because of the form factor and the compact size. I currently use two Panasonic GX8 bodies. Same form factor, although they are actually somewhat larger. However, the GX8, in spite of being 7 years old, has a viewfinder with the same resolution as these new Sonys but higher magnification (0.77x vs. 0.7x). I do like the button layout of the Panasonic better, but could probably get used to the Sony in that area. But that viewfinder is a deal breaker for me. If I buy a new camera, I would expect the viewfinder to be better, not worse.

@careerdwithtomhannigan

8 ай бұрын

micro 4/3rds to full frame is a big jump

@mafianoodles

3 ай бұрын

not it isn't if you know how to use your camera@@careerdwithtomhannigan

Great review, thanks! Agree with the smaller footprint should not always equal smaller price point argument. The ACRII is such a compelling platform for hiking/landscape… BUT, like yourself, the EVF & LCD factor in greatly to my personal happy factor when using the A7iv. Coming from a Z6ii, I still enjoyed the user experience more because of how thinks looked while shooting (though I’d never trade the AF, glass, or customization :D). Thanks again!

@CopyRightOC

9 ай бұрын

Not related to the A7C line but to Z6 II and A7IV: So you liked the EVF and LCD on the Z6 II more but prefer AF, glass and customization of the Sony? Would love to hear from your experience with those two cameras!

@cohoonatube

9 ай бұрын

@@CopyRightOC Yes… I originally bought the Z6ii because it ticked off enough boxes and the screen/experience of the A7III at that time was miserable. I rented the A7iii, EOS RP, and a couple others, in the end I loved the image quality and user interface of the Z6ii better. After using the Z6ii for a year, though the CAF/Eye AF got quite a bit better (FW 2.0), the reliability was still not where I needed it and I was having a hard time finding the glass I wanted at a cost-effective price for me personally. We have 6 kids that all do photography so I need a more affordable eco-system than others.. came down to Canon RF bodies and EF Glass, or Sony. When the A7iv dropped I still was not overly impressed with the LCD/EVF resolutions but they were better than the A7iii and good enough, though not amazing like the Z6ii (which isn’t close to the X-H2, A1, etc.). The Tamron/Sigma glass for the E-Mount has been fantastic. The Sony ergonomics are still not my favorite, but there is little the A7iv has not been able to do for me… just a great all-rounder with exceptionally reliable AF, customization, and lens eco-system. Hope that helps some! The A7iv colors are also very close now to a blend of Canon/Nikon. Nikon and Fuji still produce my favorite colors and I’m seriously looking into the Fuji Eco-System as well… it’s just their ISO / Low-light performance that keeps me Sony at the moment. Edit: Concerning Customization, there is almost zero barriers to customizing the A7IV’s buttons/dials etc. I love the unmarked dial on top (normally exp comp), I have it slaved to Aperature… I almost never need to look at the menus. Speaking of which, the menu structure is now every bit as refined as Nikon… I still prefer Canons, but Sony is 2nd. With the My Menus (6 pages) you can store every setting you quickly want to find in any order, it’s a great and very user-friendly eco-system now (even if the verbiage is still a bit head-scratching). The camera ergs are not as good as Nikon or Canon… just doesn’t feel as “right” in the hand, but it gets better every day with muscle memory.

If I am only interested filming video, and I want the AI features, does the A7CR have any significant advantages over the A7C II?

Goodness you have alot of comments. but as a beginner. I am looking at the a7c II. I Was wondering if you were beginning and had to choose between the a7cii or the a6700, would would you?

Hi Sir compare between the two camera A7Cll and A7CR overall which I the best choice. Tks

Great unbiased review as I am looking for a travel camera in a rangefinder style body. Unfortunately, I agree with the comment that Sony has missed the mark on the most glaring flaw of the A7c which is the viewfinder on both these camera bodies. Now let's see what Fujifilm releases at their next A-Summit on September 12th in Stockholm (X-Pro 4 ? ).

Great review as always. I wear glasses so the EVF's of any camera would make me jump for joy. I got the A7cr to be a little brother to my A7r5. So i know it doesn't have all the bell and whistles of it's big brother but the thing they share are amazing. Thing like, flawless auto focusing, the 60 mp sensor, pixel shifting to give you 240 mp. I love the A7cr, it live upto what it was made for.

Hi Ted, how do you like that Voigtlander lens on your Sony?

Great review.

How would you compare A7CR with say 24mm lens to Leica Q3. I am looking for a camera that is light and small enough that I will take to places, but with as few compromises as possible. What is you take on this?

I saw that you mounted the loxia on the a7c R. Were you able to focus properly? I have used 21 in the past, on both a7r3 and a7r4. And sometimes, on the first one I had trouble focusing accurately. Only with the 5.6 Mdots of a7r4, I solved the problem completely. As a result, I'm wondering how one can get this right with just 2.

Very good review. I’d love to see a Panasonic GX8 sized tiltable EVF with around 5 megapixel screen on the R.

Thanks for the review. I find the evf on the CR to be a decent improvement over the original A7C, which I sold because it was really unusable. The compactness of the CR compensates for the lower quality vf in my opinion. I love using it with my 50mm f/1.4 lens for street shooting. Also, I didn’t feel the shutter was too loud, but I’m usually shooting in noisy environments.

Ted, would it be possible for Sony to offer a 1.4x VF magnifier like Leica does on its M series cameras? Seems like that could be the ticket with this EVF :-)

No one ever mentions the drawbacks of the flash sync speed and that hss is basically unusable due to the lack of a fully mechanical front curtain. The a7c has a max sync speed of 160 😢 I wish it would hit at least 250 like the a7iv. I am a wedding photographer and I use the a7c ii as my family/personal camera but I do like to play with flash for some nice family portraits. Wish I had a higher sync speed but hey, other than that the image quality is exceptional and the button layout is very well designed. The camera is almost perfect for me…

totally love the tried and tested sonnar 55/1.8 for exactly what you describe: a high quality lens, reasonably fast, in a small and light package.

Thank you for an unbiased review . I would have bought the A7CR without hesitation IF the viewfinder was better . This kills it for me as a glasses user. I totally agree with you that these cameras or at least the A7CR should be more “pro” with an outstanding viewfinder

@bradsmith3123

9 ай бұрын

*All* reviews are biased. It is unavoidable.

@Jonathantuba

9 ай бұрын

The EVF is in actual fact considerably better than the previous A7C so I would suggest you check out the camera in person before deciding to write off because of the viewfinder

@kenandcamera

4 ай бұрын

I purchased the A7CR, and I was so excited about its size and capabilities...BUT...the EVF was HORRIBLE, horrible, horrible. I just could not stand it, and ended up selling it. There's no excuse in 2023/2024 that Sony couldn't have put in a better EVF.

I've been saying how much I would love an external EVF option for the ZV-E1, I love my A1 but at times, I prefer the ZV-E1, yes... even for photography, that thing is amazing in low light! But NOT having an EVF makes it hard to use at times, so yeah... external EVF for selected bodies would be great!

The left side viewfinder is a tad problematic for left-eye shooters.

I agree. I would like to see the a6700 features in a 40 megapixel sensor low light camera for around 3 grand

From what I have heard so far, the view find has a bit higher magnification in the A7c. It sounds like it is a "modest" improvement which you would only notice if you tested it together with some of the other similar bodies (old A7c and a6600 and a6700), but it seems they are listening. Then again, they _are_ making more money on some of their other bodies, so . . . . :-)

you mentioned heat for 8K, but can it handle heat for medium to long hand held 4K shooting?

The perfect lenses for these a7c's are the a Sigma i- series primes which are Small but very high quality and at lower coat. I think the EVF is very important especially when shooting street in bright sunlight. I use my EVF to check images after shoot when the back of the LCD gets washed out. EVF is key. Sad they didn't make it better than the a6xxx line but less than the full sized a7 line so as to not hurt sales of the bigger full frame cameras. Work out a deal with the evf mfg to get a better price. Don't skimp on the stuff that is used all the time. Yes you can use the lid like a phone but if you just want an lcd experience then you'll just use a cell phone not a real camera to take pix. If you paid $ to take pix with a real camera then an evf is a vital important thing for sure.

I think it'd be nifty if more camera makers made not just these lower profile grip extensions (I know canon has one for the RP/R8, not sure if anyone else does), but a sort of "extended" battery that made use of the extra 1.5 centimeters of height that's otherwise wasted with these existing grips

Great points. I wish manufacturers would make more models without the center EVF placement, but with great quality EVFs. I've about had it with smashing my nose against my cameras with my head at an odd tilt and angle, as if the lens needed a direct path through some vestigial prism.

An excellent thought-provoking video about the Sony A7C II. Sony seem to be somewhat conflicted about what the compact range of the A7 series is supposed to be about. Is it a budget variant of the A7 range or is it a distinct and smaller range finder style full frame camera from Sony. It’s clear that this camera in its second generation is not a budget camera and it seems churlish to force in some relatively inferior elements in order to give the impression that it is, when they could as you stated look to actually make this more premium. I have been strongly considering the C range of cameras, But recently invested in a third party eyecup to attach to the EVF of my A7R3 and I’ve started using the EVF for photography again with great results and a far more immersive experience. The low resolution and small EVF in the compact range is diminishing the appeal of the compact range of cameras. If Sony could address this then the compact form of the A7C would once again be an highly attractive proposition to me in the future. If Sony want to release a budget version of the ordinary A7 range of camera then they can do that by significantly stripping down features in the standard A7 in order to allow a lower price point and call it an A700 range (or whatever they want to call it.) In its current form the A7C range neither appeals to budget buyers nor professionals nor luxury buyers. There is some food for thought for Sony about what direction they should elect to take with the version three of this camera and your thoughts are exactly what Sony should be listening to and thinking about. Excellent video. 👍🏾👍🏾

Disagree about the EVF. If you want a big center mount EVF go with the A7RV. Add on EVF would essentially be the same... I do like your take on the smaller f2 lenses... Intrested on your take on the 35/2 Loxia. Thanks again!

I understand your perspective but as I own an a7rv, I want a second full frame less expensive travel camera. The a7cii fits the bill but at that price I need a better evf. I think it should’ve been leas than 2k. It’s too close to the a7iv in price. We forget the a7iv was 22-2399 when it first came out.

Thank you for your review! I got my Sony A7c for two years ago and use on a daily basis. Using Voigtländer Nokton classic 35 mm for stills, done exhibitions with it. Done a few documentaries using Sony lenses, a great camera for being unnoticed. I really have it´s place in my workflow. Have been looking forward for an upgrade!

@lovicios

9 ай бұрын

Hi @mikaelsilkeberg9734, I too use manual Voigltänder lenses on Sony, and I have been wondering about these c series, but have been sceptical both because of supposedly subpar EVF (particularly relevant for manual focus, in my view) and because of lack of fully mechanical shutter (and artefacts related to electronic ones). I currently use 7siii for both video and photography, doing documentary work, and love both EVF and shutter of that camera; but always wonder whether I would be just fine with a7c (or a7cii now) to leave the very expensive a7siii home when around in the field. Have you ever felt limited by the EFC shutter in your a7c? If I may ask, thanks.

@mikaelsilkeberg9734

9 ай бұрын

Hi@@lovicios, I have to say I feel the opposite. The camera get zero attention and have all the features I need, great battery life. I have never experience any artifacts with the mechanical shutter shooting stills. Its a little bit load shooting wedding in church. A7c has 8 bit in clog and for better grading A7c2 have 10 bit and some more features for video. The problem I had in the past with Sony is that they can take the daily use. The get wrecked. The Sony A7c on the other hand still looks great after using hard for two years.

great helpful review the A7CR would be a great second body for me as well as a travel and walk around camera but $3K damn back on the fence for now

My biggest gripes are :no tilting rear panel (not a video guy), no joystick, the materials could be better as touch points, and the EVF…. I like the concept of this line, but Sony neglects their photo customers by not going all out with the ergo ice and aesthetics of the more photo centric bodies. If you’re a video guy they put more effort in. I just feel that with the prospect of more people migrating from film bodies, they could’ve capitalized by not making this just a leftover parts bin line, but something made with intention. They make amazing featured cameras, but they don’t approach camera design with the user in mind first. This really shouldn’t be a “budget” option. It should just be a different form factor.

Re compact lenses; what's wrong with the lenses that were designed for this system; the 24mm, 40mm, 50mm G lenses? We have the 40mm F2.5G lens and its great.

That’s a neat watch! Would you mind sharing which it is?

@christ6874

4 ай бұрын

Horage Lensman 2

I really like the grip. First you make a compact version of the camera and then you make a grip so the camera is less compact 😅

Does the first person shutter work well with a flash?

Maybe one day we'll see full feature a1c or a9c with good evf, better screen, dual card slots and one of this awesome sensor - professional, small and beautiful (chrome) body.

I might swap my A7C for an A7C ll, looks very good.

I already own an A1 and A7rV, I preordered the A7CR as a possible replacement for my RX1RII, I was hopping the viewfinder was at least better than that camera, still on the fence as to see when it comes in or cancel.

@dopevernacular2925

Ай бұрын

@bobdamico1099 how did the A7cr fare as an RX1 replacement? Which lens are you using as a replacement for the Zeiss on the RX?

I think they should make that EVF larger. But they probably don't want to compete with Leica's Q3, (another of their big customer of sensors), creating something with big EVF and with interchangeable lens will beat that $6k product.. and could also reduce sales for A7R V.

Coming from the RX1RMk2 to the A7C, I had not the biggest issue with the viewfinder. everything a tad better than in the original A7C will do for me :) I think its time to say goodbye to my A7C and my Sigma FPL with all Lenses to get the A7Cr. Will be. a great companion to my Q3 I guess :)

@dopevernacular2925

Ай бұрын

@arminhirmer how was the move from RX1 to A7c? Did you find any lenses that gave you results close enough to the Zeiss Sonnar on the RX?

@ArminHirmer

Ай бұрын

Tough one :) I used many different lenses, often the 40 2.5 which is great but also Voigtländer 35 and 50. But Sigma 65 f2 is outstanding

Hi ,I want to upgrade my a6400, I am getting almost the same price for a7c and a6700 which one should I get

Yep I completely agree, if the EVF was just a little bigger and we had a joystick on this body, It would be my next purchase. And would probably replace my X-Pro2. It's so close to being the perfect FF rangefinder style camera.

What happened to your follow up review of the Hasselblad X2D? Don't get me wrong, I use Sony and Nikon as well, but this Sony camera is incremental but not really cutting edge for modern photographers.

How do i switch the orange Sony Mount Ring to a Blue one and where do i get those?

What you are asking is present in the A7R line up. If you want the same in a smaller form factor, you'll canibalize the A7R's. To the contrary, I wish they would go the opposite side and drop down the prices, by that I mean drop the video completely and simplify the AF and the menus, but as you said give a true viewfinder and a fuji XT-5 style ergonomic and back screen .

Could anyone explain why this couldn't be used to shoot sports photography? 1/4000 of a sec seems plenty fast considering most sports is generally shoot with 1/1000 ish. Forgive my lack of knowledge in the mirrorless era. Thank you kindly

To your point, why doesn’t Sony refresh the Zeiss ZM lenses and offer an FE mount.

Well today on Amazon the a7cII is 2199 and the a7iv is 2299. I think I would go with the a7iv at this price point over the other.

Also Sony made a near perfect compact full frame camera in the RX1RII which is my favorite camera. They very easily could’ve expounded on that design and built a proper rival to the Leica M for users that want the flexibility and predictability of an EVF and af lenses, but the smaller form factor and interchangeable lenses. This feels like a half measure that I’m sure they’re banking on people getting over its faults. I just don’t see this being a camera made with photographers in mind. It feels more like a crumb trail from the ZV and A6000 line to their A7 line. I don’t hate this line up, I just feel like they keep coming up short and not paying attention to what’s missing in their lineup. The CR body easily could’ve had a much better feature set to distinguish it more from the CII.

my gripes: lack of joystick should shoot 1/8000 instead of 1/4000 flash sync should be 1/250 not 1/160 should shoot 4k 60 without crop better evf

@kenandcamera

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct on all gripes.

Despite its high-tech features, why are the Sony alpha 7C ii images I see online less focused? And the photos taken are not as good as a7 iv.

First, let say that I've ordered an A7CR. But, I have the same concerns as you. Particularly the evf. But, if Sony included all of the features found in the A7R5 in the smaller lighter cheaper A7CR, why buy the A7R5?

Hi Ted, you are right: I like the small form factor and the rangefinder style of the 7c mark II, but I would prefer a better EVF and also a better display. Even if this would cause a higher price point. Thanks for your video and your honest opinion. Kind regards, Sven

1/4000 max shutter speed is a big letdown. Also, I hate that these cameras don’t have a joystick for focusing. I love the form factor and had the A7C, but got rid of it because of these two issues.

Thank you! Does the CR do Focus Stacking?

@markkuautio7831

8 ай бұрын

Yes! It’s have same than A7RV.

That evf accessory is much needed for fx3

Very good thoughts Ted. I concur...perhaps they could create an a7C-Pro that incorporates the articulated screen of the a7RV, a quieter shutter, the joy stick, better thermals, and the EVF of the a7RV. I would not like to see them add an external EVF unless it could be cross purposed for the FX3/FX30....Solid review Ted.

@mrmonday42

9 ай бұрын

You're not going to fit that magnification EVF into this body

@paulgero

9 ай бұрын

@@mrmonday42 a guy can dream right! 😉

@costagf

9 ай бұрын

Everything you said except for me the viewfinder is fine in maintaining the compact size of the C Series, the LCD backscreen though doesn't make sense it isn't at the level (resolution) of the A7RV having such a Highres sensor and a poor viewfinder (a acceptable tradeof for some because of bodysize) in a $3000usd camera. ++ ADD THE JOYSTICK or a even better clickable mini one (A7CRII)

What is the aesthetic value of 61mp? Is it a different look? I think this is a burning question among a lot of people. Thank you.

You want some nice f/2.0 lenses? Sigma's I-series lenses fill that niche very nicely.

How is the A7C R priced at 3k with 61 megapixels full frame sensor and excellent auto focus a low price point customer centric camera? I do like the suggestion for a modular EVF though instead of compromising the user experience by putting in a sloppy EVF. The EVF is not a big deal for me as I mainly use it for night photography and long exposure stuff. Even for other occasional use cases, I only bother with the EVF if its super bright. But I defnitely, 100% would have a loved a better quality LCD display at the back. They should not have compromised on that! But I love this camera for the price and the image quality, the 2 things which are the most critical. And it looks pretty modern too!

Is this channel going to turn into an advertising channel for camera companies. If i print a picture will i actually notice an improvement. How much resolution can i actually get on a print, how close can ink drops be placed together.

I could not agree more. What astonishes me is that Sony provides the technology required for not just most of the DSLR market but also most medium format cameras and yet they could dominate this market if they so wished - but instead produce humdrm middle of the road cameras which are not built terribly well.

I don’t know what 7 step IBIS is, did you mean 7 stop?

Looking to upgrade my smartphone and as a hobbyist, I can’t justify these price points. Used Panasonic g9 still on my radar.

I completely agree. A compact camera makes the most sense, if you can use matching compact (fast) lenses. For budget reasons, I'm using a Panasonic Lumix GX8, and I'm not about to change that, because the micro 4/3 lens lineup, I have access to, is both compact, fast and simply too good for the money to get rid of. If Panasonic ever came out with a GX9 II, I'd upgrade to that - unless it turned out to be dud, but for me the Sony A7C series of cameras will remain a camera lineup to watch KZread videos about, but not own myself.

@molybdnum

9 ай бұрын

They actually have come out with a GX-9, also called a GX7mk3 in Japan market... but their product line is a bit confusing, I think the GX-9 is more like a GX850 followup than a GX8 followup. For me ... I want to love the GX8/9 but it can't compete with the full frame sensor in the same form factor. It was a night and day difference stepping up to A7C from my m43 bodies (G85, EM5ii, GF2, Air A01)

@molybdnum

9 ай бұрын

Oops - I missed that you actually said GX-9 "ii". I think a hypothetical GX9mk2 would have to be very affordable or come with a massive pixel density increase for me to consider it.

No full mechanical shutter means banding when using high speed sync flash.

You are the only person throughout the KZread reviews of this camera that has complained about the “new” evf

I am not in the market for this camera, but I like its size. Especially, because I already own 2 Zeiss Batis lenses. That said, I do want Nikon to really deliver with their coming Zf. I want something really retro, with F3 build quality and durability. That is what I want and would buy.

@renessda5519

9 ай бұрын

Me to. ZF is rumored to have 1/8000s mechanical shutter, 3,96mln dots EVF with 0.80x magn.!, better and bigger LCD, probably 1/250s flash, high res mode, WR, and it will be cheaper... the only question is sensor - 24mp or 45mp? there are some reports ZF is are tested in these two versions...

@---us7qf

9 ай бұрын

@@renessda5519 Let's hope Renessda, let us hope.

@timothysteenwyk2978

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, especially since E mount lenses could be adapted to Z with very little trade off

Agree, if only the eVF of my Sony RX1R can be used on ZV-E1, I'd pick it up so fast.

Agree with the optional evf option. I wish sony would offer that instead of the dinky little evf on these. I had the detachable evf for canon m6 camera and it was awesome, I could have a tiny discreet camera, and if I needed to see better I could pop it on and it only got slightly larger. Do it sony!!!!

@donalone

9 ай бұрын

The EVF on the 2 new models have been improved from 0.59x to 0.70x same as the a6700. But yes if you think it’s still not big enough no external option now.

I agree. If SONY ever came out with a compact premium line, it would be an instant success. That said, the 'new' sub-standard EVF and LCD at the current price point in 2023/24 is inexcusable.

@costagf

9 ай бұрын

half way there, they got the PREMIUM $3000usd price tag on A7CR ;)

I'd love to see this camera with a slightly smaller screen with no tilt option and a full fledged viewfinder. It would be almost perfect then.