It appears that the interface with the fender is pretty small. You might consider reshaping inward the fender a bit with a heat gun. Done over a few inches it would probably be nearly invisible.

You can glue a rubber bushings to the back of the steps above the fender skirt so it does not put pressure on the fender skirt.

Several subscribers offered quite reasonable sounding solutions JD. I'm betting, with y'all's ingenuity and skills, y'all could remanufacture a replacement top mount where the step lays over the threshold that would create that fraction of an inch of clearance is needed to clear the fender trim. Who knows? If y'all are able to pull this off, y'all could patent it, or at least get the kudos from the step manufacturer. Seems like a complicated procedure to accomplish the goal, but, it would make a good video. Giddy up.

Use a heat gun and make a permanent indention in the plastic...no need to notch it. Easy fix. I will be doing this upgrade at some point.

The video did not disappoint. The heat gun seems the best solution. You just have to live with the warping on the skirt.

I appreciate the time and the video equipment required to review things.

I added Glowstep Revolution to my travel trailer, after I watched the last video of yours. I love mine! I say KEEP THEM! Can you devise a “block” for the non-fender side? It could reduce the pressure on the skirting.

Fire up the heat gun and heat up the contact point and remold that area!!

Another honest review JD. I’m a skeptical person and if I have the slightest idea that someone is bought and paid for I unsubscribe instantly. You provide a service to your subscribers. The service is the truth. I trust your reviews and I’ve posted or sent links to your videos to groups I’m in and and to my friends. I’ve never thought that your reviews were skewed because you received a product for free. Nothing in life is ever free. I’ve watched you point out problems in many of the products you review. It’s obvious that everything you post requires a lot of work and thoughtful consideration. I don’t read all the comments but if I had to offer any advice I would tell you to stop reacting to the haters. You have a huge amount of subscribers and they obviously appreciate you as much as I do. Any negative person or comment does not define you or your channel. Your fans are your fans and they’ve become so because of you. No one else matters. I appreciate you. BTW I would modify the fender skirting because it’s basically plastic window dressing. The advantages of these steps outweighs the mods you will have to make. Take care and thanks.

Buy another fender skirt while they are still available and keep it so you can replace it later if it gets messed up from the step system rubbing on it. I don't think it will break the fender skirt.

Love your honesty when reviewing a product!! My 2017 Brookestone 395RL has the same skirting and I had to remove it to change my steps. Since it’s a seasonal camper not a big deal but when I do move it I have to put the skirting back on. Thanks again for you honest reviews

Looks like a cool concept...We should get Todd to walk up it for a stress test :-)

@tomm_d

3 жыл бұрын

Here to help.

@markegan1690

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Thank you for the transparency! That's a good way to explain that nothing you get is actually free

@United_Kangaroo1992

3 жыл бұрын

@@bookooc5605 i didn't say he doesn't get product that he doesn't pay for. I won't repeat the explanation he literally said in the video.

I originally installed the glow steps on my 2017 grand design reflection. When a upgraded to 2019 luckily they still fit. I love the steps and wouldn’t have anything else. They are really easy on my wife’s knees.

I have the same 4/5 step GlowStep Uprising on my Rockwood fifth wheel. Fortunately my fifth wheel doesn’t have the fender skirt under the entry door. I do love the GlowStep. I replaced an OEM MORryde with the Strut Assist.

The fender skirt is secured to the J wrap and it wont hurt the skirting at all. It touching is just minor details. its going to take a lot of force to move the j wrap and the fender skirt. Those fender skirts are functionally viable for any reason they are just there so you d9nt see the j wrap cuts around the wheel well.

I have the glowsteps on my Bighorn and they are awesome.

I just installed LCI Solid steps on my JayFlight 26BH (2 step model). I love them. For your application, I would notch the skirting and install a thin board or rubber "plate" below the door for the steps to rest against. It would look for more intentional than the notched skirt alone, and would prevent any potential marking or even damage on the side of the coach.

Looks to me there is not enough contact to hurt anything. It is not optimum but seems like just letting it ride is the best answer.

I have the “standard” version of these in my trailer (the version that folds inside the normal receptacle underneath the door). It’s way better than any other kind of stair I ever had in an RV, solid and easy to use.

When my son lifted his truck and put bigger tires on it, the bushwhackers were rubbing . They are made out of thermo-formed plastic, which is probably the same as your fender skirts. If you take a butane torch, and carefully heat the plastic up until it becomes flexible, you can put the stairs down on it, let it cool, and fender will be re-mold around where the stair is hitting. If you want a little more clearance, just heat it up again and use a 2x4 or other piece of wood to push it in a bit more. That way, it won't wear out, still maintain the original look, and you won't have to replace the fender. Just don't over-heat the plastic to the point it starts bubbling (don't ask me how I know that... :) ).

I could really use those glowsteps JD! Love your channel & all your reviews! So good!

I purchased these steps for my fifth wheel after watching your video. Love the product. I have the same issue with getting into my RV when in storage. Perhaps Torklift can modify the design?

In my opinion the half step at the top of those accordion style steps is more of a trip hazard then a benefit. I am sure its not a deal breaker, as you would adjust to it over time, but if it was me, I would be keeping those solid steps, as I love mine. I have a cabinet right inside my door to the left, so those glow steps would not work in my application anyway. Keep up the great videos.

I like the steps. My travel trailer is in storage, and I have to park on the far left side of my space to deploy my steps (Solid Entry, Strut Assist Fold Out Entry Steps) and keep them within the "lines" of my space. However, I do not have a unit parked next to me on the right side. If I did, I am not sure if I could deploy my steps. However, these would be a great option if I ever got a "neighbor". In your case, I would not use them if they were contacting my fender skirt. But if a little material could be removed via grinding, without sacrificing any structural integrity, then I would do it.

I say don’t worry about the fender skirting. Function over form in this scenario.

They don't look as sturdy or as nice as your other one. I sure wouldn't cut anything out from my RV to accommodate the operation of them. Thank you for the video👍🏼😃

@mikeh4245

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto. I prefer the Morryde steps as well.

Contact the manufacturer and tell them your issue. They may have a larger top mount that will solve your issue. Of course there is always the heat gun option.

You gave us something to think about we hadnt before: getting in and out if we needed to while its in storage.

Very well done video. Thanks for sharing this information.

I actually like these steps more than the solid state ones, the functionality seems to me , would be better when in a tighter spot or curb area etc.id notch out fender personally, fill in with foam or some other material and paint it.

I'd replace the fender with a 1/2" thick black UHMW PE, aluminum or other material cut to fit and painted to match. I'd even put a lip at the rear to match the fender on the slide when closed. I might even cut the offending half and only replace that portion with a flat panel. I'm sure the tire would clear but check first obviously. .

Looks like it would turn into a tripping hazard as much as it sticks out in the stairwell.

Whew, they sure are proud of those steps! I didn't think they'd be cheap, but had a little sticker shock! Maybe JD can send me the set that etrailer sent him!! 🤣

Glow steps came with our solitude .We LOVE them

Hey JD, as long as I’ve watched your channel and your intuitive match making approach to all things RV related, this should be no big hurdle for you to design a fit. As an observation I see the new step concept as a pro regarding entry flexibility. Appears whatever side clearance deployment space you have to utilize, these scissor steps will work versus the previous straight steps. Additionally I see the new torklift steps as less bulky in the doorway, less weight to deploy, and an easier option for your family. I look forward to your design that overcomes the fender skirt ‘oh crap’. There have been and will continue to be RVers that learn how to adapt on the fly as you have…. Cheers, Hoss

Could you suggest the manufacturer modify the landing 1 inch further ? I would cut and add 1 inch flatbar to the top plate to create clearance, it steel so fairly easy to modify. Good luck with the project and keep up the entertaining videos !

Is it possible to make where its hitting on the fender skirt and remover possibly use heat and to maybe remold the fender a little bit since not hitting by much just a thought

I store mine at my house and love how stable the lci steps are. The only thing i dislike about them is having to fully set them down to get in the camper, with my previous camper that had the steps that pull out from under the camper, i could just open the door and hop in or set something down inside. Still like the lci good enough to keep them. Just have to have a couple compromises.

I want the original style you have. I could pull them off and store them when at my seasonal site and put them back on for travel.

Could the Glowstep frame be notched out to go along with the shape of the skirting without compromising the integrity of the frame? Just a thought. Otherwise I’d reinstall the LCI steps.

Just add a rubber bumper to the back of the steps on the unsupported side and a foam padding on the fender side so it won't mar the fender... Nothing needs to be changed on the exterior that way and the steps will be fully supported.

It looks like the fender has plenty of flex, so maybe a bit of rubber/silicon or padding of some kind between the Glowstep and the fender. I do love the flexibility of that Glowstep.

In your specific case, i would keep the LCI steps. Is that not one of the many reasons you now rent 2 spots? I cant see any other situation where you would not have the space to deploy the LCI steps, being on the road, at another site, etc

I put the Morryde solid steps on my Jayflight recently, I left the the original steps in place as I do park in a storage lot and the swing out issue is real. I have to remove them using the pin the same as the LCI you have/had. I do love the Morryde but I only remove them and place them on the floor, it is an annoyance but worth it to me. These are something I also considered but I am happy with my choice.

Can you shim the right side with something on the frame or back of the steps -- either permanent (e.g. welded) or semi-permanent (perhaps bolted)? The goal would be to either match the height of the fender or even shim so that the fender is not contacted by the step.

Just a suggestion, what about a cut pool noodle to ace behind both pieces so it does not make contact, just a thought

Could you warm up the fender and reshape the small area for the steps?

Can’t you put a hard rubber stop type material on the Rv to keep the pressure off your fender skirt

I store my new RV beside my house and there is a small retaining wall. The Solid fold in steps act like a baby gate so we can’t get in. The old RV had the normal outside steps so no issue we could just open the door and walk in. I am wondering how easy they are to remove. When you set them into the bracket it appeared that they just set into the notches in the bracket. Do they come out the same way or is there hardware that attaches them that you didn’t show?

I would remove the skirt, reinforce the back side. It would prevent a lot of the deflection and reduce the marring .

Good vid. If you do use them, you might think about a strap to keep them tight to the door frame and some bumpers on the exterior pressure points. About the first part of the vid, I do sometimes get a bit jealous of all the cool things reviewers get. Not personal, but more like... man I wish I could afford that. That being said, I do like the steps. I have a door well inside the rig as well as a catalytic heater directly right of the entrance that prevents the use of the other steps. I love my heater for boondocking, so these would work. (Just not a priority)

Good vid!

when these stairs are in the "stowed" position and the door is closed, are they secure or did they wiggle around? basically, im wondering if they can be used in a truck camper that spends much of its time on bumpy, off-road trails. Thanks!

That product name is a mouth full... lol. One thing to consider... instead of notching out the fender skirt.... alter or notch that small section of the bacskirting on the step itself.... just another possibility to make it fit so that it doesn't rub the fender skirt...lol

How about putting a piece of felt like you put on the feet of chairs so they slide on the floor, put the felt pad on the back side of the steps at the contact point to limit, minimize the rubbing at the contact point. Nice honest boots on the ground evaluation. 😎👍👍👍

I'd just cut a notch, or since the fender skirt is plastic and just decorative, use a heat gun and lower when it's hot, the fender will then fit to the step edge. I still prefer the step-above, it makes it nice inside so the rig isn't rocking every time someone walks up.

I'd build a pad/rubber plate that is fitted to the bumper skirting to transfer the pressure to the right side, and take as much pressure as possible off the fender. Also, if possible replace the fender with the flatter option if available, as you mentioned. I think those two things would mitigate the problem.

I wonder if the company would have a suggestion. It might be worth it to contact them about it. Looks like a really good product otherwise.

I say add a thin piece of rubber so the step doesn't scratch the plastic fender, the fender will give a little.

What do you thank about Jay Flight SLX- 264BH Travel Trailer

What is the load capacity of these new step?

Probably the reason why the old Moryde steps have the design they do is because of the fenders like that being in the way. A redesign from Glowstep to have it bump out a little bit is what I would recommend to them. That way they could fit more trailers and only have 1 product to fit more trailers. Few variations keeps costs down for them and hopefully the end user. For me personally, I have an ankle that doesn't have full movement so the bigger/wider the step the better for me personally. I would rather have the Moryde steps since they are wider/bigger. Love the reviews as always.

Did you ever check if the door closed with the new steps in place?

Let it ride! Next upgrade should be AC-530L Locking Commercial Rail By stromberg carlson. Keyed alike locking rail.

Is that fender skirt plastic? I would use a heat gun. Slowly heat the plastic, then lower stairs. It might mold itself to fit. Is that a dumb idea?

Heat gun and massage the fender i would make them work even if they pressed or rubbed the fender the little bit that they did

A possible solution may be to use a heat gun and melt the plastic just enough for the step to clear.

Take the rubber bump stop off on left side. Thought

Pity about your fender design. They look great and if you're happy they're not flimsy I'd say they'd be a great space / weight saving option for smaller 5ths and trailers. peace.

I would move the bump stop to hit the true trailer side

Take a heat gun and heat spot that is touching and push in a little and you will be fine .👍👍😊✌

What is the weight limit on they steps?

@carls2210

3 жыл бұрын

The link he provided says 325lbs.

I think you should have kept the glowstep, way more functionality, and ya just need a little time to figure a way to deal with the fender.

Send it!

"...more decorative than functional..." I'm sure I'll get made fun of for asking this, but what function does that wheel skirting actually perform?

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

Keeps you from getting cut on the sharp edge it covers

@Brigand231

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigTruckBigRV Huh, ok. Thanks! I'd not realized the edges of wheel wells were so dangerous.

As a 300+ pound man i would just deal with the solid steps. I dont trust these new ones . But if your avg size or skinny they could work well.

These stairs look dangerous. Like a ticking timebomb trip to the E.R.

Great steps, but they will screw up your skirt. I would stay with the original.

Ahh yes! I am more likely to order these steps now that I don't have to cut into my lower skirt. I still have to measure my rv to be sure they would work. I really don't like the solid steps.

Stick to the LCI steps you had installed to start with.

You should go ahead and send me your old stems then. 🤣

Do they make steps like that for vans?

Nice steps but the pricing is a little too expensive imo

Notch

I cant see damaging the trailer for a step

What is the RISE of the steps?

Keep the steps that came with your camper.

I'm less concerned about the wheel well skirt, as I am about stubbing my toe on the bracket at the bottom of the stairs. Maybe it doesn't stick into the doorway as much as it looked to me on video.

I personally would NOT notch out my fender. But that's just me, also your original steps look better in my opinion.

They don’t look nearly as sturdy as the other one IMHO. Bigger issue for me is I wouldn’t notch my fender and long term don’t want pressure on fender when using

Put a strip of rubber on the step

A heat gun and form the skirt with a 2x4...problem solved.

I do not like the solid step for the same reason. I many times get in the RV or place stuff in the RV without folding out my steps. I also don’t like putting potentially dirty or wet steps in my RV. A lot of manufacturers are going to these which makes me wonder if they are a cheaper choice when building it. I won’t be buying one with the solidstep.

Real world test, Real world results, you probably saved someone the same troubles. So they'll know. Thanks.

Looks like a death trap. Trip and fall and you will be impaled by the adjustable legs.

Notch out the metal where it's hitting

Have you ever thought about using a different lens? This one gets me dizzy 🥴.

I am concerned about the legs at the bottom creating a tripping hazard.

I would remove them