Phone gaming is depressing. I used to install couple of games every time I upgraded my phone. Now I don't even do that. Phone gaming is just online casino wrapped in a game skin.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

Ай бұрын

The gacha games are out of control

@TonyJenn

Ай бұрын

Yeah. If you only pay attention to those types of games...

@ycyean8235

Ай бұрын

@@TonyJenn sadly there are some ports and emulation but that's it ...native android gaming is just bad

@christianviera8414

Ай бұрын

That's why I only play emulators, most native mobile phone games suck, but android emulation is at an all time peak (minus what happened to yuzu recently)

@vatinp

Ай бұрын

This is such a sad reality.

You can buy a base model S24 and a Switch for less money than buying a gaming phone. What a joke.

@ektasix

Ай бұрын

You can buy a whole PS5/Series X/Switch and a budget phone with a good camera for the same price too lol... Gaming phones dont make any sense at all.

@Valoric

20 күн бұрын

Next time I’m buying a phone it’s gonna be something budget and repairable. Save the money for a Switch 2 and a steam deck. Phone games haven’t been interesting in a decade. Blowing $2k every five years on phones that ALWAYS die or break in some unforeseen way. Like the SoC becomes useless. Or the touchscreen stops working properly. Why is glass on both sides? Use plastic on the back it’s lighter. I’m completely over form over function design.

@wasabisazikicurry6691

19 күн бұрын

Go search up redmagic 9pro and see for yourself if hes worth more then tue s24 design wise

@yatokuwastaken

18 күн бұрын

@@ektasix*display not included

@ektasix

18 күн бұрын

@@yatokuwastaken it still would be less than the latest rog phone lmao.

Gaming phones never made sense simply because they utilise the same SoC and GPU as any other flagship. Sure they have a better thermal management, but there's really not much value add that you cant get from a typical flagship. It was cool to see in the wild, but if the SoC and GPU is the same, it makes no sense.

@ChudDin

Ай бұрын

yup and especially when normal phones play the same games at a very similar performance level

@reyashvishwa

Ай бұрын

they never made sense 'cause you never had proper games to play.

@asandax6

Ай бұрын

They make as much sense as someone getting a minivan to daily commute alone to work. In other words if you aren't planning on using your phone for games then don't get a gaming phone. It's a tool for a specific job.

@gradient5319

Ай бұрын

​@@reyashvishwa?

@reyashvishwa

Ай бұрын

@@gradient5319 *used had instead of made. gaming is entertaining to most people when it comes to Triple A titles that aren't made available to mobile platforms.

They would make a lot more sense if they came bundled with a good controller

@ImperialBebek

Ай бұрын

Samsung did something like this with their S23 Ultra Gaming Bundle thing that came with Backbone controller

@kenbee1957

Ай бұрын

That completely defeats the purpose of a gaming phone. If you have to bring a controller along (or really even the cooler attachment stuff) then the whole portable on the go aspect goes out the window It does make sense maybe to justify the price of the things if you get one bundled in the box, I guess

@turntqble

Ай бұрын

only thing is that there barely any good games on mobile, so it makes 0 sense

@BortaMaga

Ай бұрын

ROG Phones have their own dedicated controllers, though I don't know any variant that has it bundled in.

@christbenitez8797

Ай бұрын

Rog phones also have that bundle it's kinda cool but that's far they can get. Since big AAA devs won't make a exclusive games from phones.

Never saw the point of a 1000$ phone. I'd rather buy a 400$ phone for necessity, a 500$ tablet for basic work and multimedia and a 100$ retro console. I mean those are what I use.

@666marq

Ай бұрын

I use $80 "retro" S20FE (got it used) and it can serve as mini tablet, retro console with emulators, decent camera that I always have on me. Feel no need to spend more as it does whatever I want it to do, but you know, people like splashing on gadgets and flexing with latest and greatest toys.

@BeaneChunz

Ай бұрын

I dislike seeing my phone being faster than my working computer, so $300 phone and $700 gaming laptop it is

@gokultn72

Ай бұрын

Yeah I've similar thought 1 iPhone for work, 1 Android tablet or smartphone for media + gaming, 1 gaming PC (laptop or desktop) for all rounder purpose gaming, work, entertainment, etc

@gokultn72

Ай бұрын

​@@BeaneChunznice choice

@gokultn72

Ай бұрын

iPhone will be my go out - take everywhere, daily driver phone, 2 gens older vannila variant will be a value for money I mostly play COD Mobile, some racing games like A8 A9, some strategy games like CoC on my phone, so yeah 400$ Android phone will be enough for playing these at home I'm a big fan of GTA & other AAA PC games so I won't go low budget on gaming PC, i will happily spend more on a future proof PC

Mobile gaming (outside emulation) largely makes zero sense

@gcforreal

Ай бұрын

Facts I have a telescoping controller but I only use it for emulators like PS2 , GameCube, snes and old school mame. Until android gets current triple a console releases like iOS is getting mobile gaming is nothing without emulation

@RemixedVoice

Ай бұрын

My S20 can run any emulator I throw at it flawlessly.

@tevii3514

Ай бұрын

Tell that to CODm & PUBG players

@sirLJson

Ай бұрын

The switch makes 100% sense. He added _largely_

@Unicornpirate

Ай бұрын

True but its the biggest market gaming wise. They make a lot of money with mtx and in app purchases. Not to mention the quick ease of use. Plenty of people in third world countries can't afford a PC or console use phones to play games like PUBG mobile. I myself have a Oneplus 8T and use it for phone activities and have a AYN Odin 2 for gaming...that too only Android games without ads/in app purchases and emulation.

Gaming phones are really like "Gaming headphones" or "Gaming chairs" at this point

@cameronb4099

Ай бұрын

I switched from Asus to Redmagic and don't regret it

@Dream-Eternal87

Ай бұрын

@@cameronb4099I switched from iPhone 15 to Galaxy s4. I don’t regret it.

@Everett...

Ай бұрын

Gaming headsets can be justified by almost zero latency, chairs on the other hand...

@apexheat6553

Ай бұрын

Biggest 🧢 I've seen ​@@Dream-Eternal87

@goat9295

Ай бұрын

@@Everett... to be honest, what wired headsets even have latency?

Gaming phone’s main problem is that there is no actual games for them to play. There are very limited high quality games for android, the most serious ones are probably switch emulation games.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

Those phones never made sense. Literally dumb to buy a phone for gaming.

@itssomeoneelse

Ай бұрын

"Those phones never made sense" okay. "dumb to buy a phone for gaming" that sound dumb. I bought a $80 used Android and played tons of games, with my Gamesir controller.

@_spineless

21 күн бұрын

If devs start utilizing the mobile platform to make legit game ports/versions, we could see a reason for such a thing. Phones already support controllers as well as display to external monitors, which means they’d work perfect for gaming casually. The mobile game scene needs to grow and there’s no doubt it will once the money-hungry companies’ products get snuffed out by actual quality. Imagine being able to play a AAA title, something like Zelda Totk, on your phone instead of having to buy an entire game console/PC! There is simply too much potential for it to not be utilized at some point.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

@@_spineless I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid. Like gaming companies can even make spin off exclusives for phones like what companies did for nitnento and PSP before.

@_spineless

19 күн бұрын

@@jmgonzales7701 The Xperia play came out at a time when phones were only just starting to become mainstream and Sony already had the PSP to sell at the time so it kinda makes sense they didn't push the concept further even though they probably could have. Sony could totally start a mobile gaming revolution right now if they made an effort to get their games on mobile devices along with consoles and PCs, since phones are much more prevalent now, but it would be a pretty big decision on their part for multiple reasons. I think that in order to get a true mobile gaming comeback we need SOME major company to push it, like Meta is doing with VR gaming. Sony could hire game studios specifically for developing mobile versions/ports of their titles (like they probably did with Resident Evil on IPhone) and i'm sure that would cause people to buy and play their games more if they did. However, I think it would be a rock and a hard place for Sony on the hardware side because the phones that people use already are not hyperfocused on performance like the game consoles/handhelds that Sony would want to make, thus forcing Sony to either not create a phone at all or to insert themselves into that part of the market at the same time by creating a very solid phone themselves which would be a whole other can of worms. They COULD also create an android-based handheld made to play the mobile versions of these games better than almost any phone on the market and that could appeal to people, but at that point it's not even phone gaming, it's handheld gaming and the phone hardware would catch up in a few years! It would truly be awesome to see Sony do something like this but i guess only time would tell. Their best option is probably creating a fairly compact handheld that can very comfortably play the "mobile" versions of their game ports at high resolutions and then be like "surprise! You can use your phone to play these games too, they just wont be as good on there compared to the Sony Handheld!" Either that happens, or some REALLY good game comes out on mobile that people are all wanting to play and causes more devs to want to make games on there too, kickstarting quality mobile gaming. I really want to see an indie dev team or even AAA studio create a truly console-level experience for everyone on mobile so something like this can happen.

Honestly that's what I think at 3am when I'm supposed to sleep, and this needs to be talked abt more

@otherssingpuree1779

Ай бұрын

For me, I do it at 7AM when I am supposed to go to work.

@anfrex3342

Ай бұрын

lol

@bimmer8602

16 күн бұрын

Insomnia gaming

It's like buying a gaming chair which is very awful to sit comfortablely

@User71956

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Fun fact: the Nintendo Switch is powered by an underclocked Tegra processor from 2017. Most midrange and high end mobile SoCs could probably beat the Switch by a wide margin in terms of graphical fidelity, but the business model of mobile games and the lack of a standard hardware configuration would make it hard to put a game with a console/PC like graphics in a phone.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

so u are telling me modern phones can run games like csgo and valorant and other PC gams

@soldier1stclass987

18 күн бұрын

​@@jmgonzales7701for quite sometime yes, even without proper port and rely only to emulation many pc games runs well on android. i currently playing ac revelations on winlator

@yoloyt8721

13 күн бұрын

​@@jmgonzales7701yes

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@jmgonzales7701Yes

@triadwarfare

10 күн бұрын

@@jmgonzales7701 if they're willing to port it then yes. But porting it from X86 to ARM takes considerable amount of work and testing.

Using touch controls saps the joy of gaming on a phone.

@GarseJanacek

Ай бұрын

It's only passable with certain types of games. Good for jRPGs and tactical games. Otherwise, you need a backbone style controller.

@basti.9022

6 күн бұрын

True af.

Gaming phone and mobile gaming is huge in South East Asia. Every country in this region has big communities focusing in mobile game tournaments.

@ronaldmcdonald6067

Ай бұрын

Mobile games are ass

@novacraft257

Ай бұрын

​​@@ronaldmcdonald6067yes that's true, but I think the reason it's popular around here because people rarely have their own pc or laptop, and obviously people will have phone so that's why it's more popular and probably most of player are teenager or kids

@bltzcstrnx

Ай бұрын

True, most of these tech channels are western oriented. They're oblivious to the other side of the world.

@aarspar

Ай бұрын

@@novacraft257 Yup. Southeast Asian here. PC games aren't that popular here. Sure there are people who play them, but so many more people play mobile games. It's much more affordable to buy a decent enough phone that can game once in a while than a decent enough PC/laptop.

@BortaMaga

Ай бұрын

Also these games are free to play, with mostly negligible microtransactions for casuals (and pros if it's purely cosmetic)

I bought an s22 last year because it had the snapdragon 8 gen 1, and was exited to be able to play games on the playstore but none grabbed my interest

@theantil7

Ай бұрын

It's all about emulation. You can play every console up to PS2 and even Switch technically. All in the palm of your hand. Crazy.

@Lazar-ox5bd

Ай бұрын

@@theantil7 psvita too

@ImperialBebek

Ай бұрын

Google needs to do something similar like how Apple did by reaching triple A developers to bring their games on iOS.

@theantil7

Ай бұрын

@@Lazar-ox5bd you have a good guide on how to emulate the Vita? I find it to be super finnicky

@Lazar-ox5bd

Ай бұрын

@@theantil7 mr.Sujano has one, though I stopped using it because my previous phone was a redmi note 10s (didn't work well) but now i got a note 13pro+

I bought a Red Magic 9 Pro mostly for its design (Snowfall) and uninterrupted display without camera notch. I was going to get the S24 Ultra but I saw way too many compromises that don't make sense on a 1500€ phone, namely the lack of aptX codecs in order for Samsung to sell you their galaxy buds, which I'm not into and I'd rather use my IEMs, and it is also unforgivable on such an expensive phone and nobody talks about it. The rather low capacity battery (the Red Magic has a 6500 mAh battery compared to 5000 mAh on the S24U) was also a factor in my decision, although not as bad as the exclusion of the aptX codec. Another nice thing about the Red Magic is passthrough charging which I don't think the common flagship has. For someone who does emulation which is my case, I find this feature quite nice since it allows you to connect the phone directly to a power bank for example, and not run out of battery and you can keep swapping power banks if they run out. Mobile gaming does suck, the native games that is, I find gaming phones the most useful for hard to run emulators such as PS2 and Switch. Yes a flagship such as the S24 Ultra could run it, but it will throttle after a couple of minutes and give you awful 1% lows in fps compared to a better passive cooling system which is usually found on gaming phones. I got this one for 900€ (16/512) instead of the 12/512 S24U which costs 1400-1500€ where I live, and yes while it is still expensive, I believe there's value in these phones still due to the features I mentioned. If cameras and nearly decade long updates are very important to you, then there's value on a flagship for sure, but I think these points are often overlooked when comparing performance and saying gaming phones do not offer anything new since they run on the same SoC. ...And yeah it has the headphone jack, which is a nice addition and something considered premium at this point apparently. My only gripe with this phone is the lack of SD Card slot (which basically no flagship offers at this point, other than the Xperia), and being unrootable for the foreseeable future.

@pillowgood1318

26 күн бұрын

This. Also if you're into Insta 360 cameras, on phone video editing is extremely resource heavy. Phones with dedicated cooling can handle it without thermal throttling. If you're sad about missing SD cards check out the 'Hagibis Magnetic M.2 2230 NVMe SSD Enclosure' for a cool alternative. It kinda matches the 9 Pro Snowfall coloring.

@AnonymousNobody-nn1el

20 күн бұрын

Do you know if red magic 9 accept MetroPCS

@Rhomagus

19 күн бұрын

Had a Redmagic 8pro. Returned it for a ROG 7. I do think the Redmagic 9pro beats the ROG 8 though. I'm probably going to get an Experia Mark VII if Sony still keeps the SD card slot when I'm done with my ROG 7. Though Redmagic might nab me if they advance enough in that timeframe. Unfortunately ASUS is moving backwards. The ROG 8 compromises too much.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@RhomagusHad my red magic 8 pro for a year now and it's excellent for me

@Rhomagus

12 күн бұрын

@@bristlesthistles I just really wish it had two USB-C ports. Otherwise it ticks all the boxes for me.

the main issue with releasing ever-increasing performance phones is the app ecosystem ended up trailing behind hardware breakthroughs far too long, causing people to frustrated when all the powerful hardware is for nothing gaming wise, genshin Impact is absolute monster of a game, yet many people still wanted gta-like titles in mobile.

@m.2383

29 күн бұрын

Genshin is okay (good if you place a single player, garbage if you want decent multiplayer). The problem that is that it's a gacha game, and it requires an internet connection. What people were expecting is games on part of the DS or the PSP, instead we got gambling disguised as a game. Sometimes the games are good (Genshin, Star Rail, from what I hear also punishing grey raven etc). But it's all just gacha shit. There are no good games in the traditional sense. That's why people will laugh at you if you say you're a gamer, but you only play on the phone. Because the quality of games is just garbage, except for ports, emulation and gacha. There's nothing wrong with expecting GTA, as long as people don't also expect GTA v graphics? (Don't arguably that could also be possible...). The PSP had Voice City Stories. Was a decade ago. Pretty sure we can do better than gambling and my micro transactions, companies just don't want to

@baoquoc3710

27 күн бұрын

@@m.2383 yeah, I was talking about genshin is unfortunately just another gacha-type of loot box gambling kind of game that only frustrates anyone willing to giving mobile gaming a go, especially with a cesspool of microtransactions that attack vulnerable young gamers as well.

This is only true in the western side of the world as in south asia mobile gaming is huge. For most out here a decent phone is the only sensible investment to make as PCs, consoles and specially handhelds are absurdly overpriced. It is what it is 😅

@arithmetic7105

Ай бұрын

Yeah only you Indians are into "mobile gaming" because you cannot afford a gaming PC

@voidninja9134

Ай бұрын

Indians are not south east Asian

@RithikaV

Ай бұрын

@@voidninja9134 South Asia* thanks

@karlos777x

Ай бұрын

So, if there's no gaming phones, and you get a cheap midrange and invest the money for a more powerful gaming experience... wouldn't that be better?

@RithikaV

Ай бұрын

@@karlos777x mid range phones are actually the most common but investing that kind of money just to game is only for a few lucky people. Sure you can get a pc, but to build a half decent one it can actually cost north of $2000 due to taxes. Plus all your friends play mobile games too so there isn’t a good reason to get a console which can only game.

Gaming phones were always irrelevant. All high end phones have basically the same performance outside of benchmarking tests. You can play high end mobile games just as well for hours between a ROG Phone, an S24 Ultra or an iPhone 15 PM. Zero difference. Well, the iPhones usually overheat and slow down to hell but well, you got the point. We are limited by the SoCs and high end phones all have the same SoC so whatever companies do it translates to 1-2 fps diffence AT BEST. And 99% of mobile games have low graphics on purpose so every phone can play them. The only reason for ultra high performance nowadays on phones is high end emulation or heavy video editing.

@GameOver-nm2us

29 күн бұрын

Even then, the "heavy video editing" can be made much better and smoother than any phone out there with a $700 PC (laptop or desktop it doesn't matter). As long as you know what you're looking for, a $400 phone and a $700 PC is all what people need, and for the same price as this pointless phone.

@dhanveercheetoo8868

16 күн бұрын

Not all gaming phones are irrelevant. Currently the best phones for gaming are Samsung and red magic because of Samsung Dex and red magic console mode. Other phones do not have similar functionalities. But, when ordinary phones will start bringing console modes, then gaming phones would make no sense.

@brightobesi5982

16 күн бұрын

Modern iPhones do pretty well with gaming, I play all the demanding titles on my iPhone with 90hz - 120hz and mid to high graphics without issues

IMO the Achilles' heel of gaming smartphones is actually software. Namely the fact that even though hardware started getting really good and you can pair a phone with sth like a Razer Kishi, devs simply don't port real games to Android (with too few exceptions). Hoping the Capcom+Apple collab will turn things around for smartphone gaming. It would be really cool to be able to use one portable device for all your needs including gaming. And that could even justify spending more money on it.

@signe_stilett

Ай бұрын

I could see the coming x64-86 to ARM translation layer being huge for phone gaming, as it would make phones capable of running desktop games similar to how Deck plays Windows games. I'd be down for that, I mostly play indies on Deck But yeah. Phones are still phones, they can't compete with a console for some time still, and are limited in performance and comfort

@wisdumcube

24 күн бұрын

​@@signe_stilett Yeah, a smartphone or tablet being able to run almost natively like an x64-86 gaming computer is the endgame. As soon as smartphones can run basically any modern PC game at good performance, portable PCs handhelds like the Steam Deck will become obsolete (and so will x64-86 gaming laptops, for that matter). Also, a lot of gaming smart phones in the past lacked a good built in cooling system. Phones like the Red Magic 8-9 solves this. Overall, this niche market is young, and the hardware and software are not quite there yet. So, basically Gaming phones are just starting to get good and are simply ahead of their time.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

maybe games like csgo and valorant can be run with modern phones

@kael070

15 күн бұрын

Let's not forget older Android games just dissapear from playstore like flies, and even with an apk and data you probably will have compatibility issues

@whyyoumadbro2370

2 күн бұрын

​@@kael070Android 14 has started refusing to let you download apks of games that existed Android 6 or below. The only way you can get them onto your device now is through ADB

I think they stopped making sense a good while ago 😮 Especially when they started removing features like the 3.5mm, SD cards, chargers and headphones

@martyechevarria6556

21 күн бұрын

The only saving grace for gaming phones are ports and headphone jacks would love if they add SD card but yeah good thing Red Magic is still considered true gaming phone since it has a fan inside full screen display, 3.5mm jack passthrough charging and other stuff..

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

The newer red magic phones are great and also half the price of the Asus Rog

just got an Odin 2 for emulation. it's like the size of the Switch Lite, runs Android, has the same chip as the Galaxy S23, and costs 300-400 euro/USD. it's killer for emulating old and less old consoles (even most switch titles), plus it can run any android game without breaking a sweat if that's your jam. sure, it's not as powerful or quite as versatiles as the steam deck, but it weighs half as much and the battery lasts 3x longer.

Idk why I never seen this channel until today. Your vids are super good quality.

I don’t understand the need for gaming phones the price of an RTX 4080. I don’t understand the need for iphone to runs Resident Evil 4. Games for phones should be simple like Plants vs Zombies 1 and 2, Temple Run, Angry Bird, Jetback Joyride. These games are simple mobile phone games but they can be addicting, and the way the game levels are staged means that disruptions mid game feels like nothing, you can always pause and return later. This is how mobile game should be.

@jacksuwanpradit6992

Ай бұрын

Depends on the audience. Sometimes a dad doesn't have hours to chill at home, but might be able to have a quick 45 mins of RE4 while waiting for his son's swimming lesson. It might not be for you now, but one day you might understand; keep an open mind ^_^

@LordOfChaos.x

Ай бұрын

There were good mobile games before. But gameloft gave up.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

for some they want the portability of the phone.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

They shouldn't be like that. Mobile gaming could be so much more but the current landscape is just greedy and over casualised generic games.

There was a hot minute where we really thought we could collapse all our computers into one device, so having a device that is made for all purposes could save money, but this is proven to not be the case. Growing up, Dad had work PC's, we had a home PC, family friends had PDA's and we had CD players, eventually iPods, and we had gameboys, eventually PSP's. Each item we had, had a character to it. That thing had a specific use, and it does help a bit with our monkey brains that each is basically a highly advanced tool for a specific, albeit complex, task. Then, after consolidating cellphones, music players, and primary internet interface into the smartphone, you can see the attempt to keep on going. Razer had an add-on for their phone in which you can just insert it into a very thin laptop, literally a keyboard and screen, and use that razer as a laptop. I have friends that basically work through their phone, so the big folding-screen devices do a lot in that space. I do wonder if the logical end of "true all-in-ones" are progressing into being niche rather than an ultimate goal for tech development. like, others' mileage will certainly vary, but i just couldn't play games on my phone. i used my phone for phone things, and swapping between an immersive game from the flitting around of phone use got really cumbersome, and that's just for what's on offer from phones. They really don't compete directly with Steam and Epic because they don't have to. Steam and Epic don't make cellphones that other brands must pay rent to exist on. Apple and Android do. and what would be the point if they did? why do we need everything on one device? if you're a kid, and all you got is one technology to exist on, then sure, it's a bigger problem, but when its your own money, i see the pull of having multiple devices made to do their specific tasks very well more and more appealing.

As a S21 FE user, it made me a fan of the FE since it is basically a "diet" flagship. I saved almost $400 for not getting the S21+.

@ronaldmcdonald6067

Ай бұрын

Honestly not a fan of the FE series since some of the budget cuts are pretty bad, like the S23FE is bad.

@pedroalbuquerquebs

Ай бұрын

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067 The S23 FE is the worst FE yet since it uses the previous year Exynos 2200 or the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 chip that were used in the S22 instead of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 that was used globally in the S23. However the S21 FE (which is the one I own) uses the Snapdragon 888, which was the same chip as the rest of the S21. In fact, in the EU they used the Exynos 2100 for the S21 lineup but for the S21 FE we got the Snapdragon 888 which was a bit better. So, in that regard the S21 FE was actually a slight upgrade over the S21/S21+/S21 Ultra. The S20 FE (the first of its kind) also followed this formula. The only really bad thing about the S21 FE was the fact that it was released a bit too late compared to the S20 FE.

@LordOfChaos.x

Ай бұрын

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067s20 fe and s21 fe were good. Also had better screen to body ratio than s23 fe. You couldnt tell the difference with the fe and the normal ones. But nowdays is clear as day.

@BaIlincat43

25 күн бұрын

The FE series is great, but the s23 FE is dogshit.

@Emma_madison

19 күн бұрын

Got a galaxy S10 plus for $250 Can play every mobile game and emulation out there

one of the things that was keeping me loyal to the ROG Phone series was that it was the only phone without a notch. Looks like they changed it up this gen as an attempt to streamline their production with the more mainstream Zenfones. They also abandoned their Kunai gamepad. Looks like I'm done with gaming phones for now.

@nintendonarutofan

8 күн бұрын

Abandoning their Kunai controller was such a stupid decision.

I have a gaming phone now because my deal breaker is punch holes and notches. I rather have phones bring back chins than deal with a phone that have a black spot anywhere in it. 🤷🏿‍♂️ I don't understand why this is the standard. 🤦🏿‍♂️

What is the name of the car game with the little red car drivning in 2d?

@AbdulKaderZilany1

Ай бұрын

do you mean Hill Climb 2?

@samuelsspel

Ай бұрын

@@AbdulKaderZilany1 thank you!

@MR_stone69

21 күн бұрын

​@@samuelsspelwelcome

I'm not into gaming, but this was an excellently presented video on what's going on in the smartphone gaming arena. Kudos!

Yes, there are still RGB on the back. You can change the UI to Zen UI if you prefer stock android. It priced really well on my region (~$750).

I've always thought gaming phones look so damn cool. However, other than the looks, nothing else doesn't make any sense about those phones. Mobile gaming doesn't need dedicated gaming phones. You can do it decently on pretty much all modern smartphones.

@beatspopo

Ай бұрын

the fact that they ruined the cameras and the software longevity is what makes gaming phones look dumb and stupid

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

They have their place it's just a niche market

Communication with smartphone, listening to music with dap and playing games with console.

I think companies need to make phone with a slide out controller similar to Sony Xperia Play launched 12 years ago. Make it compact maybe 6" screen but make it thicker like foldable phone with a decent size battery.

I still remember when I had to choose between an Xperia Play or save the money and get a hand me down Galaxy Q and a PSP instead and in hindsight i’m glad I chose to keep them separate cause I still play on my PSP from time to time

Based off the gameplay footage you showed, obviously you don't get the appeal for mobile gaming. Playing arcade games I used to play back in 2012... its all about emulation. Gamecube, PSP, PS2, hundreds of games in the palm of your hand. Recording Jetpack Man over here and saying mobile gaming is overrated 🙄

@jackkraken3888

Ай бұрын

Lol that's true I'm sure you can run jetpack joyride on a potato.

@broskibrobro1278

Ай бұрын

Emulation? A normal flagship phone, even an older one would be able to do emulation

@theantil7

Ай бұрын

@@broskibrobro1278 Yeah but higher end emulators like PS2, Switch and Gamecube and Wii are harder to run on older/normal phones.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

Been saying this for a while now, you already get world class performance from new iPhones and androids, your paying a premium for something only the smallest people could see and the gamer features you won’t use, get a new iPhone or android instead and you will still get that performance, and a better overall phone by far

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

As a person who bought a newer red magic phone the gaming features are absolutely useful for mobile gaming in games like codm. And I didn't pay a premium because the red magic is half the price of the Asus Rog phone

I'm still all for gaming phones. I've always just bought flagship devices so the chips typically were always good enough for the latest games, but the biggest thing is just heat management. Using my Sony Xperia I III gets hot after like 30 minutes of high settings on an action game like Aether Gazer. Don't really want to run an external cooler either

It's because it's all-in-one device. Surely it doesn't make any sense to game 3-6 hours when you're home or at work, cause you always can bring Steamdeck with you, but sometimes you get caught up in a queue for 19-30 minutes and your phone saves you right there.

Mate, I just bought a Red Magic 9 Pro for USD 907.50 (incl tax) with 16gb ram, 512gb storage and a 6500mah battery. So I'm not sure what you're on about. You can't get a comparable Samsung for anywhere near that money.

@ronaldmcdonald6067

Ай бұрын

Imagine paying that much for a chinese gaming phone when 99% of the mobile games out there are pure ass... could have bought a decent gaming laptop and play real games instead of your redmagic bullshit lmao! And how about comparing the camera quality of your shitmagic to a Samsung or an iPhone? Phone cameras are important if you want to capture memories, but your phone is just good at being useless!

@ronaldmcdonald6067

Ай бұрын

And also let's talk about how many software updates your phone is getting. I bet it's gonna be outdated in two years 😂

@polarbear1713

Ай бұрын

That looks like a good deal and 512 gb is a good size, overall. I have been considering only phones with an SD card slot but I may have to give Red Magic another look. The guy above is right that they only do 2 years of updates, though, and I plan on having it longer than that so that is definetly a con. I am just wondering how much of a con that really is.

@bltzcstrnx

Ай бұрын

​@@ronaldmcdonald6067gaming laptop is really heavy. Also, carrying both gaming handheld and a phone is pretty complicated when you city public transit are crammed like sardine can. You'll see that mobile gaming are big particularly in Asia.

@beatspopo

Ай бұрын

16gb of ram and 512gb is useless when you'll only get 2 major updates with it 💀 the only good thing about red magic is the screen the rest of it, kinda mid ngl and mobile gaming doesn't need that much ram to run as minimum as 6gb is considered as flawless... what matters is the processor

Sometimes it's just more convenient to whip out your phone to play games for a quick minute than carrying around a handheld. Until handhelds become ultra compact like a GBA SP then phones will always have a spot in mobile gaming.

@Unicornpirate

Ай бұрын

Handhelds are more compact than phones. A lot of them have smaller screens. My Retroid Pocket 2S is a lot smaller than my Oneplus 8T.

Hey I don't know if your going to reply to this comment. But Can I know your settings for your OnePlus 12? Because Mine feels like the battery life isn't what I thought it would be, or atleast what I've seen from reviewers.

There are so many ARM SOC handhelds now for much cheaper too. You can get snapdragon 8 gen 2 in the Odin 2 for $300 with much better performance and ergonomics because of cooling/grips.

I totally agree with you however I'm one of the minority here that still values the headphone jack. I bought ROG 8 pro for that. Flagship Smartphones should have all the features including basic one. We all know that company (apple) greed is the main reason for the removal of the headphone jack. I'll be utilizing this phone more on its basic function and not gaming. I agree with you that modern handhelds might kill the gaming phones in the future.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic 9 pro has a headphone jack while being half the price of the rog 8

@SudeSudo

7 күн бұрын

@@bristlesthistles Yes you are right however Red Magic has a shi*t* camera which I also value. As I've said I'll be using this as a regular phone and not for gaming.

Most mobile games outside from Console & PC emulation are shite anyways.

@vatinp

Ай бұрын

Sad reality

@bltzcstrnx

Ай бұрын

East Asia has different opinions.

@beatspopo

Ай бұрын

not everyone has the time to sit on a desk and play all day long

@IceBlueLugia

Ай бұрын

@@beatspopoThen don’t? I have 4 portable game systems and they’re all great

@PinotNoir_

Ай бұрын

​@@beatspopo portable pc or console like deck or switch exist you know. Better value than any gaming phone, and you can use it literally anywhere.

Yes it doesn't make any sense for most people in Europe and NA, but at least in Asia mobile gaming is very popular, so it still makes sense to buy a dedicated "gaming phone"

3 years ago my top tier Galaxy and the Razer Kishi was my go-to handheld gaming. Definitely my Steamdeck.

Title of the Video should be Asus ROG phone 8 review.

Can't play cod mobile with steam deck tho

@asandax6

Ай бұрын

You can.. Just emulate it. Also soon Playstore Games will be available for Linux and Windows (it's already in beta).

@oo--7714

Ай бұрын

@@asandax6only windows has play games. Though you can use an emulator you will be banned.

@IMPRESSIONplay1

Ай бұрын

Try waydroid

@broskibrobro1278

Ай бұрын

Why would you play cod mobile when there’s better games out there

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@broskibrobro1278Cod mobile is arguably the best cod game multiplayer wise in the past 5 years, it's for sure better than MW3

My current phone is a "gaming phone" I bought brand new for under $600 a couple years ago but only because it was the only thing available in my market that ticked most of my boxes which included 1) a notification LED, 2) extra programmable buttons that can function as a quick mute switch, and 3) non-shitty OS. I'm not doing any gaming with it but it's been pretty great so far!

Gaming phones are like off-road pogo sticks: It's just the wrong type of device for the job.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

They are useful for competitive gamers like cod mobile

Gaming phones rarely have great cameras, because it's assumed that buyers aren't really interested in the camera aspect of the device.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I don't care about my camera that much

It will make sense in the next few years because high end phones can now emulate PC Games by using emulator s like GTa V, Resident Evil 6, Star Wars Fallen, Order, Need for Speed, Tekken 7, Assassin's Creed and a lot more... so it does make sense now

@luluthecat1570

Ай бұрын

Still you're only getting half the frame rate + your battery will drain insanely fast if you push both CPU and GPU at the same time like emulators do

@dotgg7243

Ай бұрын

@@luluthecat1570 i said in the "next few years" of course it's an early development it will never be perfect. If you are knowledgeable enough about tech industry, big tech companies like Nvidia , AMD , and Apple are now investing in ARM technology as it is getting more powerful that can rival x86 in the future.

@SanGraphic

Ай бұрын

I disagree, you can still get a proper flagship phone with proper cooling system, attach a $10 AliExpress vc cooler and you got yourself a proper phone with proper specs and proper gaming performance.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@SanGraphicRed magic 9 pro is half the price as the Asus Rog while being just as good and has built in cooling fan which would work better than an AliExpress external cooler

I'm glad someone made a video like this. I've always wondered why but there's always going to be someone buying them.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

As someone who's bought a newer red magic phone, I can tell you they are useful and have a niche for gaming in situations like cod mobile. It also helps that the red magic is half the price of the Asus Rog

found the rog 8 to be very very very cool, but never saw it with this perspective. Amazing video!

First world problem. For most of the world, their phone is their only computer/gadget. They onlu have their phone to play with.

@MasterMCGS

Ай бұрын

most people cant afford an expensive gaming phone anyways dummy

@NiceDayToDieJL

Ай бұрын

In that case, "most of the world" would not buy a gaming phone. They're even more expensive outside first world. For example: RedMagic 9 Pro in Colombia cost around 1050$ meanwhile in the US is 650$

@dogwithoutw

27 күн бұрын

The point still stands. What the video is saying is "gaming phones" are not justified anymore. You are either hard core or casual portable gamer. And in either situation, A gaming phone is of no use no more.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@NiceDayToDieJLRed magic 9 pro is £570 in the UK

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@dogwithoutwI can assure you gaming phones are still useful. I speak from experience as a competitive codm player

Gaming phones are master of one features and jack of others. At least they used to that way and at a premium price.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic 9 pro is half the price of the Asus Rog 8

I bought a Gaming Phone back on 2020 because Genshin Impact. I used to play it a lot on my PC and now I was able to play it on the go. But I haven't touched the game since one year and a half now and I didn't even played that much on my phone honestly. And if wanted to play on my bed well.. now I have the SteamDeck which is way more comfortable than a touch screen. I still have "emergency entertainment" (for cases like I'm at my airplane and the SteamDeck is out of battery and I cannot charge it) but since I tend to keep those low spec so they don't eat my phones battery every phone could do exactly that. I still appreciate the triggers but that's the only thing. I'm stuck with android 11 cause that's what my Red Magic 6s pro supports, I've had it for 3 years now. I kinda regret it but I'm still ok with my phone. Still functions pretty well.

I'm glad you used the OnePlus 12 as a reference too, most people ignore ut, it's actually such an amazing device, easily able to play every game available at the highest settings easily while managing heat really well, recently got that as it has the perfect balance of performance, smoothness, OS support, cameras, battery and so on

@TRUEFISTICUFF

13 күн бұрын

Sadly the oneplus 12 price went up 😢

Were gaming phones EVER better than a flagship samsung at any point in time? Serious question.

@afthabon9417

Ай бұрын

yes when gaming phones were half the cost of a flagship and samsung had shitty software and exynos to back it up.

@RiqMoran

Ай бұрын

@@afthabon9417 so like before the galaxy S7? I didnt even have a phone back then.

@afthabon9417

Ай бұрын

@@RiqMoran nah the era of samsung s8-s20

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic 9 pro still has unmatched performance to price ratio. Flagship specs for only half the price of the S24Ultra or Asus Rog 8, only downside is camera

0:17 I know this is a little bit of a stretch but Anybody remember Nokia’s attempt with the N Gage?

still using my rog 6 and i gotta say even with little post launch support it can oretty much run everything i throw at it and thermal throttling isnt much of an issue when using peltier coolers

Mobile gaming is a myth. It died about 8 years ago with all of this garbage in play marker and apple store. If you want to play real games just buy PC or steam deck if you want mobility, or even switch, but not phone

@Unicornpirate

Ай бұрын

Lol I am all about PC gaming but get real...mobile gaming dominates the market.

@Just_want_to_be_happy

Ай бұрын

@@Unicornpirate that's true. But even millions flies can't convince me that sh*t is delicious

@beatspopo

Ай бұрын

​@@Just_want_to_be_happyit is delicious to that company and it's a fact still, they're making more money with mobile games than most consoles/pc games combined because of MTX it's like an easy money generator because it is a continuous support, no yearly releases, no struggle for the team to make a new game every year as a franchise

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@Just_want_to_be_happyThere are some good mobile games, I play codm competitively for example. But yeah 99% are garbage microtransactions casual slop

gaming phones do not need cameras.

i use my asus primarily for emulation, those shoulder buttons helps a lot

My dream gaming phone would be something like the PSPgo but shaped more like a traditional phone. I would not mind if it was slightly thicker than most phone that had integrated controller

The manufacturing industry bruh, if they decide not to concentrate too much on photography but on gaming, we'll currently be having slim gaming phone with the capability of a steam deck but mfs are only about Instagram and Snapchat clout chasing and so they're making these professional lvl equal cameras and we get little to no improvements for gaming phones

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

red magic 9 pro is really good and half the price of the rog phone 8

I have thought about this so much, I completely agree with what has been said on this video. I only wish there were better games on Android, since at this moment there is not so much justification to take any gaming phone over a high end Samsung or iPhone

$500 for steamdeck? yeah I wish, it's about $1350 in Australia :(

I’m still mad apple got rid of 3D Touch. I used 3D Touch aim in CoD mobile all the time.. I actually thinking the decision to get rid of 3D Touch ultimately stopped me from enjoying the game all around and I havent really played since I got my 12 pro..

Only reason why I want a phone for gaming is that I will always carry it around with me wherever I go, but a gaming handheld is too big to lug around everywhere I go, and it will ONLY be used for gaming, but still be the same price (over here in Australia an ROG ally or other handheld gaming PCs are the same price or atleast very similar price).

Silly question but what game are you playing when you show steam deck in 8:14

@ShubhsGamingHub

Ай бұрын

I think it is mudrunner or may be the new one expedition.

Can you share the watchface you are using??

Great video and great topic. I was all for gaming phones. I still have my Sony PlayStation Phone. I don't use it anymore because of the fact it is an old phone that is no longer works as a phone. Software support is huge as well as support from your mobile phone provider. I now look for phones that are available with discount from my mobile phone provider and if a gamer phone is not there it is not considered. The value for money especially in this economy is just not there for gamer phones.

@jmgonzales7701

19 күн бұрын

I never understood why Sony didnt take advantage of the xperia play concept. Like if they wanted to compete in the handheld market again its one way for them being unique, making a phone and PSP like hybrid.

@malcolmar

19 күн бұрын

@@jmgonzales7701 Agree.

I think so too, unless it has an effective cooling solution then it really doesn't make any sense

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic has fan cooling

It was aimed for mobile game esports, very big in Asia, because usually phone gaming use less data than pc game, easier to connect with just mobile data unlike pc where it need a good wifi to play decently.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I play competitive codm on a new red magic phone

One big thing you haven't taken into consideration is that value in other markets. Here in Australia the iPhone 15 goes for $1800 and the Asus rog 8 $1500 and the Red magic 9 $1100-1400 and the Galaxy s24 $1300-1600, so they are far more comparable and even can be cheaper than the flagship. Simply if you want a phone that can game a more mainstream phone probably is better but if you want to a gaming device that can also be a phone then get a gaming phone.

I was seriously considering a ROG phone until I stumbled on handheld consoles, and I now have the AYN Odin 2

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic is a great alternative to the Rog because it's half the price and just as good

The video makes valid points and i agree with most of them. But what i found weird was he played jetpack joyride and hill climb racing which are not very demanding at all. In europe and in north america, gaming phones probably dont have much use cases currently but in asia its different. People in india dont buy ROG phone because its expensive and there are cheaper performance centric options. If in any time in the future, the red magic is launched in india with aggressive pricing then its going to sell like hot cakes.

Nice setup with the steam deck + pixel phone. No need to carry overloaded items.

Man I've gone the exact different direction. I sold my Steam Deck when I got my One Plus 12 and put a Backbone controller on it. I thought wow this screen is almost as big as my Steam Deck and has a higher refresh rate and is brighter.

Finally a video about this

I wonder how the ROG phone 9 looks like next year the 8 look ok but the power button not repairable need to change next year on the ROG phone 9

I gotta' be honest here, between how predatory most mobile gaming is, and the influx of better handheld systems, I don't even play games on my phone anymore. I've wiped off all but the few that I keep as time wasters for when I have to wait somewhere and I don't have my Steam Deck with me.

@User71956

Ай бұрын

Depending on what time of day it is, the line at weed dispensary can be long and slow, so solitaire and or taxi missions in GTA VC is where mobile gaming shines for me lol Outside of that it’s my steam deck

Right now I am gaming PSP emulator games, but I've got problem with ps1 and PS2 emulators games which require Bios image ,anyone can help ?

@polarbear1713

Ай бұрын

It is a simple search online to find them. Play! is a PS2 emulator that does not require a bios but not a whole lot of games play well on it yet. It is still being developed though.

@jondr

Ай бұрын

Just do a Google search for the bios and put it in the correct folder

Couple of figures on a “gaming phone” or $30 controller attachment for the phone I already own, and both are playing the same games (possibly even more optimized if we’re talking iphone, but that excludes emulation a bit) hmm.

If we can get native windows support like a coustom mobile version of windows 11 it would be so good cuz the Rog is a really good phone and if the reduce its price a bit then we can justify a gaming phone

I don't understand it at all. They have so much potential. Imagine a modern sleek Xperia Play. Slide out Gamepad, marketed for emulators out of the box, big battery, cheaper than a flagship phone, stock android and they would sell like hot buns.

@ektasix

16 күн бұрын

No one wants to invest in a business that is worse than the PC/Console market. I'm pretty sure the majority of people that "game" on their phones, wouldn't want to pay 69$ for a new AAA title. Most people are already too used to free stuff or extremely cheap stuff. Also, do you really think people would prefer spending that much money to game on something that has a small display, touch controls, heating problems, etc...

@ModeSieben

16 күн бұрын

@@ektasix I mean the market is there. That's why they keep releasing gaming phones like the Asus rog phones for example. Something has to stick else they wouldn't be releasing model after model. I originally intended to say: make a gaming phone and just slap a thin slide out keyboard on it. That would be very neat.

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

​@@ektasixThere is absolutely a market for mobile gaming and the potential is there it just gets ruined by greedy trash mobile games. Also phones like the red magic are half the price of the Asus Rog while being arguably better and they have built in cooling fans so they don't overheat. Touch controls are actually better for some games than controllers such as shooter games.

Not to mention that the same Asus launched the Zenfone 11, that is pretty much a ROG 8 without air triggers and the second usb c for 200$ less...

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Red magic 9 pro is very similar to the Asus Rog 8 while being half the price

A normal phone with flagship soc will deagrade it's performance and battery cover time due to heating. And sometimes u can't enjoy gaming at highest settings or higher charging speed sometimes because of overheating. And some phones have low durability which fail bend tests. Red magic solves all those problems with A effective cooling fan built it in.

FINALLY THANK YOU SOO MUCH BRO I remember talking about these when Windows released the first Windows phones and wonder why they wouldn't use a existent Windows platform with LTE, VOICE, MSM integrated.. instead they create a new system that had zero compatibility with any Android apps! Same thing with the new gaming phones with up to 12 GB of ram! And snapdragon slowly catching up against Nvidia and AMD so... Why not create an actual Windows phone?? Luckily there so me indie developers working on a Linux phone so let's hope that one works in less than a year

My LG V60 does everything i need . Gaming , awesome Audio and 256gb with a strong battery i paid R1300 or about $110 in. South Africa

Red Magic still going strong though with the Price to Performace ratio! 👌👌

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I own a new one myself and it's arguably better than the newer Rog phones while being half the price

No way your from bodmin. I thought I recognized that accent. 😂 cheers from fowey!

RedMagic phones are pretty impressive tho for the money for just £579 you literally get cutting edge specs so as long as you dont mind cutting down on cameras/ip rating ur getting a blast of a phone

@bristlesthistles

12 күн бұрын

Yep red magic is great

my fold 5 is the gaming phone is wanted (and got). got the large screen, paired with controller I have an emulation beast, which is all I want from a portable really

I was thinking about this after reading a comment on my video, why can't there be basically a Steam Deck but a phone? The steam deck isn't even $500 new and cheaper used (CAD), so to make something with similar power and better phone properties like cameras should be doable at the $1000+ price points. I think the biggest thing holding gaming phones back is the software, because these phones should be playing PC/Console games.

well , for the first time decided to not throw 6 -800e on a phone anymore and go for repair myself, Zenfone 9 glas display cracked but display worked, bought a battery frame and a full display plus frame for 141e , everything went well and now i have my old (1.5year ) phone in a new clothes 😂, had the white version now i have black with red, battery also ordered however i will change it in half or a year because i charge properly and the oem it's very good even after 1.5 years thanks to stable and limit charge from asus , because nobody makes tiny phones today who knows how many years i will keep it, this phone it's like a toy for me 😂 unbelievable small but with a big battery compared to s23,s24 series

I use my phone for steam link and remote play I guess for many high end phones are still a great option

To me the only ‘Gaming Phone’ that made sense to me was the Sony Xperia Play because of its PSP-like slide out controls. I loved that thing