These Duels Did These Characters Dirty Yu-Gi-Oh! Discussion vid

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I had a thought and now this video exists. Yu-Gi-Oh! characters being buried like pro-wrestlers is such a real concept that I am tackling in this video and possibly even more.
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  • @KentaroMiyamoto21
    @KentaroMiyamoto21Ай бұрын

    Yeah, the way Aoi was treated was why I applaud the Rush series for giving us better female duelist records with Romin and Yuamu, among others.

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    Kind of funny that Asaka, a Supporting Character from GO RUSH, not only has more Duels than Asana, a Main Character from SEVENS, but she also has almost the same amount of Duels as Zwijo, the Main Rival. I repeat: a Secondary Character has the same number of Duels as a Main Character and a Main Rival.

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    Ай бұрын

    @@brunosanto3488 Asana is too busy dating tractor-kun to get good.

  • @sagittariusseiya8310

    @sagittariusseiya8310

    Ай бұрын

    @@brunosanto3488 I'm glad they haven't treated Romin and Yuamu like trash.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Lmao acting like bastion Tristan sylvio etc were done any better

  • @revolverkyosuke7049
    @revolverkyosuke7049Ай бұрын

    Ah, Aoi vs Soulburner...fuck that Duel. You can't convince me writing Duels involving Soulburner is hard when you give him such BS cards. A card that is exclusively only really good against Trickstars and not anything else and a pseudo-Super Poly in an archetype that revolves around summoning its boss monsters using copies of themselves. Don't even get me started about Salamangreat Kernel.

  • @nicholasfarrell5981

    @nicholasfarrell5981

    Ай бұрын

    For context, the claim was that it was hard to write _interesting_ duels for Soulburner while he was playing a blowout machine like Salad. It's utter crap when you remember that Aoi would frequently just *STOP PLAYING WHEN SHE HAD CLEAR VICTORY* though, like you can just have him stop doing stuff even though he's a guy.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Haha

  • @luiplayscfv6857
    @luiplayscfv6857Ай бұрын

    They could have literally given Yusei speed-spell pot of avarice

  • @StarKaiser2
    @StarKaiser2Ай бұрын

    Aoi had so much character development and they treated her dirty time and again it was frustrating

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Ай бұрын

    Aoi had development that we couldn't see

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Eric6761oh I think we did 😂

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Always complmIaining. The entire vrains anime was rushed to the point where it didn't get a manga

  • @StarKaiser2

    @StarKaiser2

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diamondr11Blue yeah but I gotta say it's main arc villains at least showed off their skills more

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    @@StarKaiser2 Idc if she didn't win. Anybody who constantly uses constantly burn dmg to win deserved the L. DL odion..

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501Ай бұрын

    (starts off with Aoi) Unless Yuzu comes up, no coming close to that one.

  • @MerlinCross13

    @MerlinCross13

    Ай бұрын

    I mean most the female cast have records kinda like this

  • @christopherb501

    @christopherb501

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@MerlinCross13 Not THAT bad.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Oh stop. Sylvio and Bastian

  • @matthewriddle2698
    @matthewriddle2698Ай бұрын

    If anyone was done dirty in the Team duel of unicorn, it was Aki.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    No she wasn't. She was highly unexpired and didn't have many synchro. Andrew was gonna win anyway 😊

  • @qorv4973

    @qorv4973

    Ай бұрын

    I dont think Aki was done dirty. Team Unicorn had max speed counters, meaning they were at an overwhelming advantage

  • @gravethestampede3454
    @gravethestampede3454Ай бұрын

    Yuzu got the hands from Sergey so badly she became a ballistic missile, and then never had another duel.

  • @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    Ай бұрын

    Wait seriously?! I just finished the synchro arc of arc v, that sucks

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    Sergey was the literal definition of "I am going to end their whole career."

  • @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    Ай бұрын

    @ventusace9054 no kidding, especially as he's basically trying to kill her. I didn't expect 2 bs dueling tactics in this anime. Glad he got put down though and hard

  • @christopherb501

    @christopherb501

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ssjdarkdrakus5291 Trust me, don't bother continuing. The end result - maybe not even that far - WILL make you want to ki|| something in blind rage.

  • @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    @ssjdarkdrakus5291

    Ай бұрын

    @christopherb501 I mean the synchro arc with the city's system of justice and how people aren't doing anything to help already made me pissed off. I might as well continue.

  • @thatman666
    @thatman666Ай бұрын

    That duel was why Aoi is in my "Top 10 worst characters", she's the epitome of how Gallop often fumbles in writing female duelists.

  • @siphemanana2551

    @siphemanana2551

    Ай бұрын

    Mostly Shin Yoshida

  • @rayhayes7701

    @rayhayes7701

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah to both comments

  • @genyakozlov1316

    @genyakozlov1316

    Ай бұрын

    Nah to both comments. Akiza and Aoi may have gotten wasted as duellists but they still have more compelling character arcs than Romin from Sevens, in my opinion. Shin Yoshida wrote the best this series has to offer. From Kaiba vs Noah and Yugi vs Raphael to Z-one and Bohman. He helped with the third season of GX and was the main writer for Zexal. To see people celebrate the fact he isn't working on the show, especially when he had nothing to do with Arc-V, the series everyone likes to hate on most, is just baffling.

  • @thatman666

    @thatman666

    Ай бұрын

    I’m actually more forgiving to Arc-V on its mishaps.

  • @rayhayes7701

    @rayhayes7701

    Ай бұрын

    Arc V is my least favorite by default. So you only think that because you don't like Sevens just like all the rest of the haters who want their Yu-Gi-Oh back

  • @AlexisStreams
    @AlexisStreamsАй бұрын

    Arc-v Made me hate people being turned into cards it was fun when it pegasus doing it But people in arc-v doing it it just felt unnessecary

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Ай бұрын

    In my opinion it's a weird concept because in one hand it can basically work to bring characters back or highen tension however that is basically censoring death

  • @NoirEmperor18
    @NoirEmperor18Ай бұрын

    Since you talked about Aoi vs Spectre first-off, I'll do the complete opposite and say that Spectre was also done dirty (if not more than Aoi). Spectre is the right hand of Revolver. Second top dog out there. In his first duel, he absolutely demolishes his opponent, with little to no effort. So you know this guy is strong. Then he duels Playmaker, where he played A LOT BETTER than when he dueled Aoi AND STILL LOST! Bro had: 1) target protection 2) quick play skill drain 3) Goyo guardian 4) any damage I take, YOU TAKE FUCKER! AND HE STILL LOST! HOW? But he dueled the protagonist to the "death", so it is kinda reasonable. Going forward now, season 2 comes and there he has his FINAL ON-SCREEN DUEL OF THE SERIES! So he duels Lightning. He is at a pinch at first, but quickly adapts and builds his board. He got Extra linked, so what did he do in return? Extra link the opponent back? Nope EXTRA LINK FULL MODE HIM + 3 ATTACKS THAT WERE GOING FOR GAME! AND HE STILL LOST! (because of Lightning's cheating, but anyway) He got it all. His perfect field, his signature monsters, he had a beautiful garden while the opponent had a barren field AND HE STILL LOST! And the best part is, THAT'S IT! He has 3 duels overall. He loses two IN A ROW, but he wins his first against FUCKING AOI FOR GOD'S SAKE! That's just miserable man.

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Ай бұрын

    My counterpoints: Spectre even though lost 2 times in a row he still won and was considered a menace both by the characters and story wise plus he performed better than Blood Shepherd against Lightning and even Revolver said: "Damn that's something I can't even do" now Aoi is a lost cause, she only won twice however she didn't won even against a main antagonist or someone of weight, she won against Prototype B (dare you even remember him without looking up) and Haru which Lightning said that he didn't stand a chance no matter what, which should indicate strength however this just makes her victory against Haru much worse because it's basically someone who didn't stand a chance fighting someone mediocre plus any duel post Haru was a defeat, she got trucidated by Bohman and Ai

  • @devildowndevildown6261

    @devildowndevildown6261

    Ай бұрын

    Well hes not a girl so people wont simp for him and say the anime did dirt to him, the YuGiOh comunity that are vocal love to embrace the argument that female characters are done dirty but forget that the majority of characters that get shafted in duels are usually male LMAO.

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Ай бұрын

    @@devildowndevildown6261 you forgot that blue angel had worse, like more than the guys and she was getting expectations then her character basically goes terrible, she got 2 arcs of self discovery we never saw, changed her persona 2 times where none of the changes were meaningful

  • @elin111
    @elin111Ай бұрын

    Yugioh writers pretty much openly admitted they suck at writing female characters and it shows

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    They suck at writing male ones too

  • @nebbynetwork2089
    @nebbynetwork2089Ай бұрын

    Even worse specter lost to lightning but won against blue angel I like specter but mam blue angel deserved redemption against him

  • @christopherb501

    @christopherb501

    Ай бұрын

    Doesn't help either that almost every time a woman suffers humiliatingly at the hands of a man, she almost NEVER gets her own comeuppance. When the only exception I can think of is Carly becoming a Dark Signer upon her death and then immediately take out the one who ki!!ed her, there MIGHT be something of a problem here.

  • @nebbynetwork2089

    @nebbynetwork2089

    Ай бұрын

    Well at least the sevens animie did its girls right ​@@christopherb501

  • @nebbynetwork2089

    @nebbynetwork2089

    Ай бұрын

    At least sevens did its girls right

  • @nightshroud9671

    @nightshroud9671

    Ай бұрын

    @@nebbynetwork2089 Sadly its Rush Duels stuff instead of the regular game stuff.

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501Ай бұрын

    6:29 I find it especially hypocritical as the main plot structure cribbed from GX so much, down to a Big Bad being a "Supreme King", yet they couldn't care LESS about the actual *characters* from that show. One that the Japanese audience favored more than the director's oh-so-precious 5D's, I might add.

  • @CoppermineTypeK
    @CoppermineTypeKАй бұрын

    I remember someone describing Aoi’s treatment in Vrains as “the apotheosis of sexism in yugioh” once and that really stuck with me

  • @rejeneracion027rejeneracio5
    @rejeneracion027rejeneracio5Ай бұрын

    Ah Aoi the yamcha of yugioh ... Doooh ):(

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501Ай бұрын

    7:00 In fairness, it's Crow; seeing him suffer is its own reward. Only thing _I_ take issue with is that he gets so much higher-quality animation than the more interesting reunion subplot happening concurrently. Oh, and of course the fact that unlike Asuka, _the ass°•○● gets to come back against Zarc, post-DEATH!!_

  • @danielramsey6141

    @danielramsey6141

    Ай бұрын

    YEah! That Doesn’t Make Any F**kin Sense! I seriously Don’t THAT EVEN HAPPENED!!!

  • @gyppygirl2021

    @gyppygirl2021

    Ай бұрын

    There is a certain other Dark Winged Beast specialist that should have taken that spot. Absolutely should have. Imagine losing every time you summon a rank 10.

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    @@gyppygirl2021Who are you referring too?

  • @nicholasfarrell5981

    @nicholasfarrell5981

    Ай бұрын

    ​@Alzilla09 the Raidraptor dude.

  • @gyppygirl2021

    @gyppygirl2021

    Ай бұрын

    @Alzilla09 For a long time, Ultimate Falcon was the most competitively viable card in the deck, and one of the few worth actually using (to the point where it saw use outside of its archetype). You wouldn't know this from the show, because every time it's summoned, he ends up losing the duel. It's stupid.

  • @3slicessenpai
    @3slicessenpaiАй бұрын

    I really liked VRAINS, but it had the worst protagonist plot armor I've seen since Duelist Kingdom in Original Yugioh. Playmaker lost NO duels, he only tied once against Revolver, because every duel he was in was about him having the out to break his opponent's board, especially in Speed Duels with his Skill. Go and Aoi are introduced to be the supporting cast and while Go wins his duel against the Hanoi Knight he was paired against, he goes through the most embarrassing arc in Season 2 and 3 JUST because he was jealous of Playmaker being the hero. And Aoi goes through two revamps, showing how "though" she's gotten but loses on her only duels in Season 2 and 3. Meanwhile, other characters like Ghost Girl can't catch a break even when using meta, out-of-archetype cards. But Soulburner? I like my boi Soulburner, but he was JUST introduced to be a Playmaker 2.0. Everything Playmaker did Soulburner had to copy. He got a piece of the protagonist pie but the supporting cast that had been there for longer couldn't get a crumb.

  • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    Ай бұрын

    "Playmaker lost NO duels, he only tied once against Revolver, because every duel he was in was about him having the out to break his opponent's board, especially in Speed Duels with his Skill. " The worst thing is that all duels that ended in a draw, were because the enemy forced them so they don't lose against PM (so basically they are aditional honorable wins for PM) "e goes through the most embarrassing arc in Season 2 and 3 JUST because he was jealous of Playmaker being the hero." I mean he showed that obsesion with being the focus of attention since his first duel. If anything I don't like that his arc is about him reforming because he loves the orphan children twice and also exploding because of jelously for not being the focus of attention twice. They should have commited to him being a bad person or a good one but not making him change again and again. "But Soulburner? I like my boi Soulburner, but he was JUST introduced to be a Playmaker 2.0. Everything Playmaker did Soulburner had to copy" Well, honestly I would prefer SB as protagonist instead of PM. It felt like PM has no purpose on the show in S2 to the point they made Lightning and Bohman kidnap Jin's mind (for whatever reason) so PM has a purpose to duel again and go to Vrains again.

  • @genyakozlov1316

    @genyakozlov1316

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uuHow would season 3 work if Playmaker wasn't the main character? Especially since we know season 3 being about Ai was planned from the beginning.

  • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    Ай бұрын

    @@genyakozlov1316 Well they could make PM Soulburner's support in S2. SB and Flame could be the main character in that season and bring PM and Ai into the mix since they need their help. Then in S3 the focus goes back to PM, well it's a short season, if I recall correctly PM only had one full duel or two.

  • @brunosanto3488
    @brunosanto3488Ай бұрын

    About the Characters that appeared in the video, at least most of them were playing the Duel fairly in general. There will be some strange tricks, but the Duelists did their best. Team Unicorn? This Team had already won the Duel, but the group leader (Jean) let himself be fooled by Yusei's comments/provocations and abandoned the Team's strategy, falling into Yusei's Trap Card. Wild to say the least. It would be like saying all the times that Yuga had Dark Revelation on his field and started provoking his Opponents to attack him (luckily, many of Yuga's Opponents are smarter than him in Duels and end up destroying Dark Revelation or have cards that prevent their Monsters from being destroyed by Dark Revelation)

  • @DespianGrimmPaldea

    @DespianGrimmPaldea

    Ай бұрын

    Or they simply stopped the activation of Trap cards when attacking (Ensembullfighter the Music Fiend, for example.).

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMaliteАй бұрын

    Vrains had conflicting interests: Developing its side characters and making the protags/villains look good. Aoi and Gore both went through multiple transformations only to wind up in the same place they started, and characters like Ghost Gal become much less impressive as time goes on. Gore goes through a whole arc, and his only W in all this is waking up from a coma after his 4th or 5th consecutive loss. He felt more like a Team Rocket villain, which is not at all what they were going for.

  • @Eric6761
    @Eric6761Ай бұрын

    I've known this channel only now and I loved this video, btw i have some opinions Most of wasted characters in yugioh are basically in that position because either the stakes are way too high or the protagonist has way too many duels, for example: Jaden from Gx has so many duels and wins that they could go to basically anyone else and it wouldn't even steal his feats and accomplishments and in the other spectrum the stakes makes yugioh way too tough to write characters that lose because many duels are so tied to "Death, Coma or Brainwash" that hardly you have main characters losing because it would be game over and plus yugioh has so many opportunities to basically lower the stakes and make it more side character friendly

  • @flackenstien
    @flackenstienАй бұрын

    Duels where characters get done dirty are usually more interesting. Nobody would talk about that Aoi duel if she won against Specter.

  • @Yuuto_Katsuki
    @Yuuto_KatsukiАй бұрын

    Fubuki (Asuka's brother) was done extremely dirty as well...especially in the 4th season of GX

  • @Cardlimits
    @CardlimitsАй бұрын

    imagine having two high tier competitive decks in the series and all you do is nearly die each time

  • @cp49100
    @cp491006 күн бұрын

    I love 5ds but rewatching that duel my feelings are always the same, "Just end your turn, Jean!"

  • @caswellweird
    @caswellweirdАй бұрын

    Yugo vs Serena and Playmaker vs Blue Angel always make me mad because not only is their plot convenience to make the MC lose, but the characters are made to misplay really hard to avoid winning.

  • @philliprosewood7049
    @philliprosewood7049Ай бұрын

    Omg Ventus everything about the team Unicorn thing still pisses me off almost 20 years later what was the point of that like the writers just couldn't give team 5ds a lose like seriously

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Jack wiped out horrifically in arc v and 5ds. Akiza got classed by a pro and crow tied with broder

  • @crh1985
    @crh1985Ай бұрын

    I think most females in yugioh that duel are treated like this, or are don’t know how to play making them look incompetent

  • @LuminousSteel
    @LuminousSteelАй бұрын

    writers confirmed Yusei was going to win no matter what against Team Unicorn so it really didn't matter tbh. Yusei had a card in his graveyard that returns itself to the top of the deck at the endphase so it was impossible to deck out yusei.

  • @nightshroud9671

    @nightshroud9671

    Ай бұрын

    What card was it?

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    If Team Unicorn was supposed to lose then at least have them lose with Dignity! Instead of going out like a bunch of chumps!

  • @brunosanto3488
    @brunosanto3488Ай бұрын

    Now I need the opposite video: These Duels Redeemed These Characters Yu-Gi-Oh! Discussion vid. I am sure that, among all the Yu-Gi-Oh series, these types of Duels exist. Duels that helped redeem Characters that: - The Character was not very loved, but Duel helped correct his/her reputation. - The Character won many Duels, but it was a specific Duel that defined the Character (or helped his/her image improve in front of the public) - The Character had a bad streak of wins/losses, but a single Duel (usually a win) was enough to redeem the Character (think Taizo Kiyokura from Cardfight!! Vanguard: he was the Jobber of the series, but he only needed to win one Battle to regain the love and respect of people) Amusingly, Luke from SEVENS could be one of this list: the Character was not well liked and always won his Duels. However, one Duel in particular helped improve his image.

  • @tazzreviews1578
    @tazzreviews1578Ай бұрын

    A bit off topic, but am I the only one who feels that playmaker is a borderline Nothingburger of a character?

  • @RenegadeStriker7

    @RenegadeStriker7

    Ай бұрын

    Yes he is

  • @danielramsey6141

    @danielramsey6141

    Ай бұрын

    You’re not the only one. And it’s pretty damn sad that the Majority of his Duels became as Deus Ex Machina as Yugi Muto’s from DM era! But Playmaker has a Damn Near spotless record due to how Often he Cheats using that Card Data Stream Creation Power to Cheese his way to Victory!

  • @fadeleaf845

    @fadeleaf845

    Ай бұрын

    @@danielramsey6141 The only duels he didn't win were Speed Duels that ended in a tie and in both cases, this was just preamble to have the next duel between them as a master duel.

  • @thatman666

    @thatman666

    Ай бұрын

    Playmaker's problems were that his character had interesting concept but bad execution. Also Ai and Soulburner were more engaging.

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately he kind of is, which would not have been incredibly terrible if the writers actually wrote the other characters to compliment and make up for his personality. His character has a lot of potential, but they didn't know how to nail the character type they were going for.

  • @elemomnialpha
    @elemomnialphaАй бұрын

    I still think the Soulburner loss was worse, after attempting to improve it amounted to literally nothing because she still lost to the thing she was trying to fix losing to a beatstick in a duel she had literally no narrative reason to lose against a newbie who came out of nowhere while she was being hyped as the second best ranked duelist in the Vrains And probably Bowman too since she could have won if they didn't change her deck as he had no counter to LIGHT or DARK monsters at that point they had to make her worse to get countered and lose as she should have easily beat him with Trickstars Specter was at least the second in command to the arc's big bad, he should be strong, the only real issue would be her landing on her head there's no excusing that happening to her 8:12 to be fair Rovian doesn't really have that great a record going forward and probably would have lost to either twin if it wasn't a 2 v 1 because that gave the twins more cards so they took more damage from her burn strategy, her deck was twice as effective as it would normally be in that one duel

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    To detail, it is a Canon fact in GO RUSH that the Ohdo twins do not work well in Tag-Duels: both of their Tag-Duels that they have had have been losses. I maintain that I would have put Manabu vs Zwijo over Yudias vs Rovian. That Duel Manabu had ruined his character in quite a few ways (even if he showed himself to be an invincible competent Duelist)

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think the twins are bad as a team but definitely have pretty terrible match ups. They never clash or anything they just didn't win together and I would highly argue against putting Manabu vs Zwijo instead of Rovian and Yudias. Manabu has always been shown to be competent and a loss to one of the best in the series in a fair duel didn't destroy his character by any means. It was also important to show that one can't just rely on the power of a maximum for victory which is what Manabu was doing, just letting his maximum try to carry him to victory so this was a good lesson for him and to the others as well especially Yudias who remembered this to beat Tromelo didn't rely on the full power of a maximum summoned monster to win but tribute summon.

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    @@ventusace9054 Well, as I mentioned in my comment, I would put Manabu vs Zwijo as those Duels that made Characters dirty since it was that Duel that ruined Manabu's character for the entire Season 2 (as I mentioned, Manabu had absolute dominance in that Duel with his Maximum) In fact, it can be said that Manabu was the worst treated character in Season 2 (which many people believe is Yuamu) and that his Duel against Yuna at the beginning of Season 2 was well received and helped strengthen the personalities of both Characters. At least...future video in defense of Manabu?

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    @brunosanto3488 I wouldn't be able to make such a vid for Manabu because I don't think he was treated terribly. He lost to arguably the strongest duelist in the main cast who beat Yuhi, Yuamu and Yudias technically three times. Honestly Manabu only had one duel prior to his duel against Zwijo in season 2 so it is not like he was on this hot streak that was ruined and I never saw anyone say he was ruined because he lost using his maximum. I mean that is the case with all maximum users, they dominate the duel until they win or are defeated because the overpowering nature of Maximus, but that doesn't mean they should be unbeatable. I don't think there are any points to knock off the guy because he lost with a powerful monster. He still has a great record and even won all his Duels in Season 3. Sorry but I think he has been treated pretty fairly and not done dirty and I especially dont think so because he lost using his maximum to the strongest main cast character in a fair duel that was also meaningful to the narrative that Maximums can be beaten and don't need to be relied on.

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    @@ventusace9054 Well, my point is that, for many people, Manabu's character (his personality) was ruined in Season 2 and it was the Duel against Zwijo that started that downward spiral for the Character (which has been slightly fixed in Season 3) It doesn't help that Manabu in Season 1 was quite respected as a Character (not as a Duelist), but Season 2 had several personality changes or questionable decisions that ruined the Character's reputation. And well.... I think everyone agrees that his W/L's history is not one of the Character's problems: it is his lack of direction.

  • @Alzilla09
    @Alzilla09Ай бұрын

    I definitely agree with Aoi, she had so much potential and the writers wasted it! I really wanted her to have a rematch with Specter just so she could get payback. Sadly, it didn’t happen. Especially her duel against Soulburner was horrible as well. Poor Aoi, I blame mostly on the writing and direction for this. I honestly don’t care about Crow. Sorry I don’t like him that much. I found him unbearable in both 5Ds and Arc-V. Especially since the director of both series liked him so much that they had to push him to be one of the main cast. I actually like his manga counterpart better because he is more of a side character as he should have been without taking anyone’s spotlight. The Team Unicorn duel was BS! One of the reasons why I don’t like the second half of 5Ds that much despite the inconsistencies is how Team 5Ds don’t do enough growing as a team and just win all the time. Plus heavily relying on Yusei all the time to pull a victory. And it got annoying as it went on. Even Aki got treated horribly because this was the last time she ever got to turbo dueled! She should have taken out Andre and Breo, then have Yusei deal with Jean. Not only that but Team 5Ds should have lost that duel so that way they could learn more about being a team and come back for a rematch against them. Great job on this video.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Blackwings gotcha tongue I see. That's alright. He winnin

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    One more thing, did you you think some random girI was gonna outshine their brother? U wild for that cuh

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diamondr11Blue Screw off

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alzilla09 haha 😄

  • @aaronvillanueva3592
    @aaronvillanueva3592Ай бұрын

    Honestly surprised you didnt mention how Emma/Ghost Girl also got shafted lol

  • @azfarabdullah9638

    @azfarabdullah9638

    Ай бұрын

    Well she never got humiliated in any duel and lost to top tier opponents so not really done dirty.

  • @user-vw5sg8ti7j
    @user-vw5sg8ti7jАй бұрын

    Then what about Luka. That girl has litteraly no deck. Everyone of 5ds cast got extenders but her, not only her dragon was ban for a long time, she didn’t even get a evolution like the others ( because she has no deck ) and she was one of the main cast. That girl deserve justice, they should have gave her a control/stun type of deck at least not some random cards put together like she’s an amateur.

  • @anthonythomas305
    @anthonythomas305Ай бұрын

    Yeah, they really messed up with Aoi's duels in VRAINS, even though she had great character development

  • @rafaelbrites3607
    @rafaelbrites3607Ай бұрын

    For go rush, i would change epoch and yuamu vs the gigant woman and her sister because epoch won by cheating, and it's the worst example that you can give. On the others series, they make the others cheaters to lose, but here nobody tried to correct her behavior.

  • @mikai4738

    @mikai4738

    Ай бұрын

    True, Mitsuko (and Tamako) deserved the win there. Heck, Yuamu just being chill with the cheating despite SHE definitely should know better (Yudias too but people love to excuse him with "he's just naive" when he was ready to punish Yuhi in their first duel when he thought Yuhi was cheating...) still doesn't sit right with me.

  • @MegaMachiOnline
    @MegaMachiOnlineАй бұрын

    Didn’t even expect Go Rush on the list

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    My surprise is not seeing anything from GX here or any mention to Ghost Girl (although that would fall into the category of Duels stolen by Jaden)

  • @SerenitySpiderMonkey
    @SerenitySpiderMonkeyАй бұрын

    Kaiba vs Joey (both times) and Blue Angel vs Spectre are the equivalent to Hell In A Cell 2019 Rollins vs Fiend imo

  • @leonfontius5300
    @leonfontius5300Ай бұрын

    You forgot Revolver vs Playmaker they're first match Revolver could have beaten Playmaker there and then but the writers forced him to have a pointless draw.

  • @fadeleaf845
    @fadeleaf845Ай бұрын

    The 5Ds duel isn't just a character assassination, it firmly establishes that an individual badass is far more worth than relying on your useless teammates. And Yusei is the one doing it - the guy constantly spouting about bonds, making friends etc Just blatant hypocrisy on his part - already disliked how he's originally established as the scrappy technician with bad cards who finds ways to win with his worse deck by having his cards together, signified by Junk Warrior being stronger when he has the little guys with him. And they instead focused on ever stronger boss monsters that don't need anyone else to help them

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    It’s not Yusei’s fault though. If anything blame it on the writers and director for ruining his character. I love Yusei but they really messed him up by making him this unbeatable prodigy. At least his manga counterpart is better written than his anime counterpart.

  • @gyppygirl2021

    @gyppygirl2021

    Ай бұрын

    I hate the second half of 5D's deeply. Not just because it ruined the established lore and completely changed the focus, but also because it turned Yusei into the exact opposite of what he was supposed to be. Accel Synchro should never have been a thing.

  • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu

    Ай бұрын

    I mean in that duel Yusei lend Aki his monster so he trusted Aki, so he is both things. Still a problem from the writters who wanted Yusei to defeat a 3 vs 1 instead of giving Aki at least one win and stablish that because of that the Team Unicorn plan began to fall apart

  • @gyppygirl2021

    @gyppygirl2021

    Ай бұрын

    @@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu Yeah, they had an idea, but it was horribly handled. lol

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    @@gyppygirl2021I feel you, I’m not a fan of the second half either. Not just because of the inconsistencies and forgotten plot lines. But the whole thing with the Meklords especially the time travel just made absolutely no sense! Not to mention characters who show up like they’re going to play an important role only for them to not be THAT important. The WRGP arc was a drag and the Arc Cradle was mid at best despite some fun duels with questionable payoffs. Honestly I feel 5Ds should get some sort of reboot just to fix the mess of the second half.

  • @ThatOneRedDitto
    @ThatOneRedDittoАй бұрын

    I love Spectre. And I also love Aoi. And while I personally thought their duel was good...Aoi still should've gotten her revenge on him at some point. But unfortunately, the writers just forgot about her, so we never saw it.

  • @ZoroarkLover98
    @ZoroarkLover98Ай бұрын

    Nice video! But you forgot the OG... Joey losing to Marik because he died.

  • @Camelotsmoon
    @CamelotsmoonАй бұрын

    They really did take a shit all over blue angels character. I don't see why playmaker needed to be the one to beat spectre... Hell, it would've made for a more tense moment when her brother is held hostage, and he sacrifices himself so that blue angel could go all out against spectre and win. Like she won a single duel against Bowman's brother when it mattered, and then she instantly loses against Bowman and is irrelevant. Her and gor were so unfortunately forgettable in Vrains, but blue angel got it even worse than gor somehow... Like, I like Vrains more than arc5, but Vrains is still my second least favorite of everything up until Vrains; I feel like the series needed more time to cook, though arc5 had twice as many episodes and was somehow written worse. Literally... Soulburner comes in halfway through the series, has less time to develop as a character and is somehow more interesting and more of a person than blue angel or gor... How? Lol.

  • @genyakozlov1316

    @genyakozlov1316

    Ай бұрын

    Go is still my favourite character in the series. Winning is not necessary to be a good character.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@genyakozlov1316exactly. Way too many ppl ovesswd w rin rate

  • @Camelotsmoon

    @Camelotsmoon

    Ай бұрын

    @@genyakozlov1316 Gor was alright. My main gripe with him was it seemed like his character finished its progression halfway through the series when him, blue angel and playmaker were trying to stop the knights from bringing down all of societies technology with whatever that giant virus was.. then once the second half starts, all of a sudden he's a mercenary and did a 180 on what he learned, and he goes through learning what's important to him again. Blue angel and gor were just a bit disappointing to me on how they were written. Gor pulled a Goku (progressed his character, and then just 180s for the sake of the story), and blue angel should've had a couple more wins than she actually got and wasn't treated that well. Tbf though, a lot of things in Vrains were also written weird. Like where did the chess piece council go from the first handful of episodes that zyzen had to answer to? I get that the queen or whatever shows up later, but it felt like they were envisioned to play a bigger role, but in the end they just disappeared from relevance. I dunno, I don't question it too much.

  • @zenonking2840
    @zenonking2840Ай бұрын

    Ngl revolver losing to soulburner was the worst plot point in the series

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981Ай бұрын

    Mai. In her anime duel against Marik, she has game on board but randomly decides to style on Marik with his boss monster for no reason and ends up losing to Egyptian voodoo nonsense. At least in the manga she's not clowning on Marik before trying to play Ra. Similarly Odion, he loses his only duel because Marik wants to keep up his cover and ends up handing Joey a win he did not earn. Kaiba versus . . . well, any non-Yugi Millennium duelist. Pegasus cheats on every level, Ishizu somehow gets _Kaiba_ branded as the cheater in their duel despite openly admitting that he'd have ROFLstomped her into the dust if she couldn't read the future with the Millennium Necklace, and Bakura just somehow randomly outplays him to a non-finish on a level that feels completely unearned by the fact Bakura loses to any other important character because his decks are "random gimmicky BS go!". The puppet chess duelist from the Yu-Gi-Oh R manga (can't remember her name) that has Joey dead to rights in their duel (as in, she mills him out and just has to end her turn to win). Joey decides to convince her that she won't feel like she "earned" it (interesting choice of words from the guy who passed the first round of Battle City because of a literal TKO) unless she beats him with a monster, then does some bogus Quick-Play fusion and a timing-breaking attack to OTK her with cards he'd set beforehand. This one's kinda unique, since Tristan points out just how bad Joey was for scumming the win.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    You talkin boit the guy who said he was gonna jump if he lost to yugi lol?

  • @velvetc2249
    @velvetc2249Ай бұрын

    Ok now let’s talk abt zuzu vs yuri where they didn’t even bother to show us the duel they just show her losing horribly 😭

  • @brunosanto3488

    @brunosanto3488

    Ай бұрын

    Not even Yuzu lost with dignity in that Duel. Simply put, Yuzu got pretty scared and turned into a damsel asking Yuya to save her from Yuri.

  • @elin111

    @elin111

    Ай бұрын

    @@brunosanto3488 Arc-V writing 101

  • @moonshadow0078

    @moonshadow0078

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@brunosanto3488Its fuckin Yuri though? Who wouldn't be scared

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Ай бұрын

    ​Bro could be Falcon punched into another dimension

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@elin111there are plenty ty of other duelists who were done wrong. Sylvio had potential but was made into a joke at times.

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville24 күн бұрын

    Arc V couldn't stop sucking off 5Ds and treating non-5D characters like trash. I agree with pretty much your entire list. I would also add the Joey vs Sigfried on the list. Not because Joey lost but how Joey played, his deck and mindset. It is one of the worst displays and treatment after the peak character moments Joey had even in the previous filler arc with Oricalcos stuff. It is so bad, even LittleKuriboh addressed how awful it was in Yugioh Abridged. Btw, have you considered making a list of duels that are strategically well written or interesting? I think there are a lot of underrated duels like that (obviously it depends on the matter of the time). Most of them are duels with Rebecca Hopkins, one of everyone's least favorite characters because of her personality. But I feel Rebecca is using a lot of meta strats like abusing Cannon Soldier and letting Sangan get killed to fetch cards, or chaining Scape Goats to Imperial Order etc. Similary I think Weevil vs Atem in the Oricalcos Arc was pretty good in that perspective.

  • @javarrmalutei5740
    @javarrmalutei5740Ай бұрын

    Let's be honest, Yugioh loves to do female duelists dirty at one point or another. Either in duels or taking them and just turning them into a damsel in distress. Sure, I get it that Yugioh is more aimed at a male demographic, but still! Like old school Mai, set up as a Pro Duelist, one of the best of the best, and she just keeps getting slapped around over and over Or Aki from 5Ds, total powerhouse with her psychic abilities and eventually just devolves into this damsel and apparently just forgot how to duel. So silly.

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    Luckily this has changed a lot in Rush Era Yu-Gi-Oh with most females having it very, very good and not even just by comparison to master rule series Yu-Gi-Oh. They have tons of duels, wins and don't fall into the same tropes of being the damsel in distress or slapped around. Rovian was literally the only one so far in two series that had a duel that made her look bad. But in general it is like night and day comparing Rush era female characters and Master Rule females. It is a shame it took them this long to finally write Females competently next a lot of good female characters like Aki, Yuzu and Aoi got screwed over badly.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Yap yap. They do it to anyone who's not the mc

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diamondr11Blue Nobody asked for your opinion

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alzilla09 it's a public comment section cry about it

  • @jorgecarrillo1044
    @jorgecarrillo1044Ай бұрын

    Long comment coming up. I would agree with everything. Especially with the Team Unicorn. Like bro, you didn’t mention how that was Aki last one v one duel and she didn’t even defeat one of them, which I found to be the hardest to believe. Even when compared that final turn, Christ was that bad. But that’s a whole other topic. What I want to bring up is Shun whole character being done dirty in Arc V. That boy life is nothing but pain. Let’s ignore the whole dimensional war nonsense and maybe even the fact that his best friend and sister are no more. And focus on his duels. Shun started off strong with his defeating of the three LDS students at once. And with his second on screen duel between him and Sora, which was undoubtedly the best duel in Arc V. ……and ”It’s all downhill from here”- Super Kami Guru. Yes he does get a few more duels after, with even an incredible rematch with Dennis in the Synchro Dimension. But he takes nothing but L for the rest of the show. After his duel with Dennis, he loses to Crow and Kaito (for some reason. And don’t give them “gotta show legacy character love bs”. Especially when he and every other legacy characters get hoed down.) His final win comes from Ruri, and that was handed to him due to Ruri fighting against the brainwashing temporarily. And then loses to Zarc (where that whole duel was just a mess) and finally Yuya. But by far his worst loss, that I didn’t mention, took place in his second duel with Sora. A duel that I wouldn’t be surprised if most, if not all, straight up forgot about. And this duel was a showcase of Shun eventual downfall. Not only did Shun lose to Sora, despite already defeating him at his best. And despite the duel somehow lasting overnight, it ends around turn five at most (the whole event is confusing to explain). But they make it seem that Shun did not stand a chance against Sora anymore and just losses. Shun as a duelist and character were done so dirty in Arc V. Frankly, if they didn’t gave the legacy characters such a crap performance. Than Shun would had been described as Arc V most tragic character and talked about way more. And keep in mind, I actually dislike Shun. Yeah I found him quite bratty and a huge edge lord at the start, which I did not like. I get it, but his character is just not it for me. But even then, I think his treatment was horrible.

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    Trust me I have a whole other video planned for Shun, who probably has one of the most tragic existences in the entire franchise.

  • @yumatsukumo3053

    @yumatsukumo3053

    Ай бұрын

    I'll just say this Shun could have been the second one if not the one I liked the most to beat Yuya the most the dude lost everything and this win would redeem his emotions on yuya now imagine raidraptor rank 13 being there boi it would have been over. First will be Reiji.

  • @gyppygirl2021

    @gyppygirl2021

    Ай бұрын

    I love the bird boy personally, and yes, he got treated absolutely miserably. He was mishandled several times - the words "Ultimate Falcon" should give you an idea of how I feel about that.

  • @Alzilla09

    @Alzilla09

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I love Shun he was one of my favorite characters in Arc-V. It sucks how he got the sort end of the stick!

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Speaking of shay, declan was also done like this. Built up to be strong yet last synchro we barely see him!

  • @AlexisStreams
    @AlexisStreamsАй бұрын

    I didn't know you were a wrestling fan? if you are there is an old PS2 Game you may enjoy but never heard of WWE Crush Hour, it combines Twisted metal and Wrestling into one spicy recipe as for the topic Blue angel was done soooo dirty through vrains

  • @ventusace9054

    @ventusace9054

    Ай бұрын

    I am a huge wrestling fan even thinking of starting a channel based on wrestling with live watches of weekly shows and PPV events. I never heard of the game but might check it out. Wrestling+ Twisted Metal sounds good to me.

  • @AlexisStreams

    @AlexisStreams

    Ай бұрын

    @@ventusace9054 nice...whose your favorite wrestler? Also i found out one more person who was done dirty...Mai Valentine, She was a very powerful duelist but after Duelist Kingdom she was done very dirty...First off they promised a rematch between yugi and mai which never happened, she was toyed with Dartz and then she was sorta forgotten about not even a participant in the KC Grand Championship WWE Crush Hour is very interesting

  • @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
    @FranciscoRamirez-nb4uuАй бұрын

    Aoi VS Specter: Honestly I never cared about Aoi, I think she shouldn't be in the show at all, at least with the background story they gave her. Characters from the Lost Incident would be much interesting. I'm okay with Specter defeating her considering at that point none of the Knights of Hanoi had a win, even their leader already lost to Playmaker, they needed that win. That being said I think Revolver was done dirty since they made him duel the protagonist early in the season twice, and lost once and they still expects you to believe PM could be defeated in the Tower arc. Serena VS Yugo: Serena was done dirty, but really this duel didn't make me think that. Alexis VS Yuri: Alexis was done dirty but she wasn't a character I cared about at all even in GX so I just watched the duel and liked it. Not a favourite duel, but better than some of the end of the show. Edo and Kaito: One disappointment I had with legacy characters was that they only dueled Arc V characters, we didn't got Edo VS Kaito but we got them teaming up against Hugo and Joeri. Aster got the worse part, and Kaito had a quest to save his family just for his family to never appear. Team 5D's VS Team Unicorn: when I first watched that duel I didn't mind that T5D's won because from what I recall TU tricked them before the duel as part of their plan which showed poor sportsmanship in my eyes even if it was strategic. Nowadays it's clear that duel writting can be improved in a lot of ways.

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    Ragnarok shouodve won

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormalАй бұрын

    So a video about girl duelists in general?

  • @Diamondr11Blue

    @Diamondr11Blue

    Ай бұрын

    You mean side characters

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diamondr11Blue Both.

  • @rayhayes7701
    @rayhayes7701Ай бұрын

    You know what most of these instances in this video have in common? All except for one (Go Rush) had Shin Yoshida involved because he was the head writer. While I might question Rovian cheated with Yudias yeah still not cool. Plus did it matter that Team 5Ds lost in the first round of the WTGPrix? No because team Team Unicorn was still able to move on after the fact but heaven forbid Yusei loses I guess.

  • @fadeleaf845

    @fadeleaf845

    Ай бұрын

    What makes it especially pathetic looking with Yusei is the one time he absolutely, legitimately lost (vs Kalin) everyone tried to explain away that it doesn't actually count. At least with Yugi the loss against Raphael was completely accepted as such.

  • @rayhayes7701

    @rayhayes7701

    Ай бұрын

    @@fadeleaf845 even I count that as a loss. I ain't no super obsessed Yusei fan boy

  • @mikai4738

    @mikai4738

    Ай бұрын

    Funnily enough, Yoshida wasn't the one writing those horrible Aoi episodes. That was another guy.

  • @rayhayes7701

    @rayhayes7701

    Ай бұрын

    @@mikai4738 Should boo or super boo at that?

  • @christopherb501

    @christopherb501

    Ай бұрын

    He didn't do the Arc-V ones; only thing he had to do with Arc-V was the manga, a completely separate entity.

  • @Emperorwolf999
    @Emperorwolf999Ай бұрын

    ZEXAL NOT ZEEL xD

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