What changes to classic mode would you guys like to see?

@maddestmike5791

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like this change to both Sora and Kazuya's Classic Modes, for them to not exist in the first place.

@雪者

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be fine with the Sora and Kazuya changes

@TAYBR00K

2 жыл бұрын

We need a lot less Master Hand!

@sonidash216

2 жыл бұрын

I would change Sonic's Classic Route to be Let's Brawl where he would fight characters that debut in Super Smash Bros Brawl. 1st Battle: Pit, Meta Knight & King DeDeDe on Green Hill 2nd Battle: Rob, Pokemon Trainer & Lucario on Mushroomy Kingdom 3rd Battle: Diddy Kong, Lucas & Ike on New Pork City 4th Battle: Snake, Toon Link & Wolf on Pirate Ship 5th Battle: Little Mac (Assist Trophy turned Fighter in SSB4) & Ridley (Boss Battle turned Fighter in SSBU) with the Waluigi Assist Trophy turned on Boss Battle: Galeum with Wario & Olimar as allies

@BowserMovies1989

2 жыл бұрын

I would change Mewtwo’s Classic mode (keep the stages and music): Battle 1: vs x2 Lucas (1 with regular colors and 1 with Claus’s colors) Battle 2: (with Lucas) vs Cloud Battle 3: (with Cloud) vs Ryu and Ken Battle 4: (replace Ken with Ryu due to Evil Ryu) vs Richter Battle 5: (with Richter) vs Palutena and Pit Battle 6: (replace Pit with Palutena (due to her mind control in “Uprising” and Mewtwo’s control over Nurse Joy in “Pokémon the First Movie” and it’s CGI remake)) vs Pokémon Trainer, Pikachu, and Lucario (referencing Ash Ketchum who faced Mewtwo in “Pokémon the First Movie,” it’s CGI remake, “Mewtwo Returns,” and “Pokémon Journeys”) Final Boss: (with Pikachu) vs Ganondorf/Ganon (referencing Giovanni, then Giovanni being corrupted by the Reveal Glass in "Pokémon Black and White: Rival Destinies") with Mii Brawlers (1 male with purple hair and 1 female with red hair with Team Rocket outfits (referencing Jessie and James) and 1 with cat suit (referencing Meowth)) (replacing Master and Crazy Hand)

Love that Byleth's route is just them attacking children.

@IcyDiamond

2 жыл бұрын

I like it better than his original classic route

@Aaronitmar

2 жыл бұрын

Shoulda gone to class

@erhanjpg1467

2 жыл бұрын

Child Abuse

@TAYBR00K

2 жыл бұрын

That should be my Dad's route as well. Get it? Domestic abuse jokes are always funny and never misfire.

@Jaxv3r

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason, I felt that Byleth is Anakin Skywalker

Imagine if they had Pikachu in his wizard hat as Sora’s partner in classic mode to represent Mickey Mouse

@雪者

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness, clever

@anonymousdream9502

2 жыл бұрын

That... Yes. Just, yes.

@IcyDiamond

2 жыл бұрын

@Cliven Soewarna Good idea :)

@binho61717

Жыл бұрын

Good Idea, I Just Think It Would Be A Little Bit Too Much To Ask For

In Rosalina's route, Starfy is the only Assist Trophy that shows up. So yeah, it's possible in theory, then again I don't know a lot about modding. Good video btw!

@chamtheman551

2 жыл бұрын

Also Young Link's route has only Assist Trophies from the Legend of Zelda series. So it's definitely possible only idk how to mod and it probably requires something more technical through the item spawning.

@Aaronitmar

2 жыл бұрын

I dove into the files and based on what strictly determines each battle I couldn’t find a way to mirror how Rosalina/Young Link’s route handles assists :/ I suspect there is separate data elsewhere that would allow it to work

@chamtheman551

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaronitmar maybe it works similar to the item probability ruleset (how likely an item is to spawn) and how you summon a specific Assist Trophy character in Training Mode. For example, the only items that spawn in Rosa's route are star-like items and the Assist Trophy. The Assist Trophy itself has only Starfy active and everyone else deactivated. Meanwhile, Young Link's route has Minda, the Moon, Skullkid, and Ghirahim as activated and every other Assist Trophy deactivated. This problem works similar to how you can't summon some Assist Trophies in certain stages (like Alucard in the Wii Fit stage because of the mirrors, or the Moon on Great Bay because it's already in the background)

@s_cabbage2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aaronitmar Ok, I see. Like I said I don't know about modding. Thanks for replying!

@Aaronitmar

2 жыл бұрын

@@chamtheman551 The funny thing is in the file that handles the items, all of what you said is true. Rosalina specifically has the star items enabled, for example. But it only turns on the general item Assist Trophy, so it doesn't specify *just* Starfy, it's very strange, and I've yet to find anywhere that handles it.

I think an interesting change could be made to Sonic’s, in which there are 6 stages in Sonic 1 (Green Hill, Marble, Spring Yard, Labyrinth, Starlight and Scrap Brain), and of course 6 fights before the final one in Classic mode, so each arena could reference each stage, with Green Hill being obviously easiest to add. Not sure what the fights themselves could be, but maybe him fighting robotic characters in each stage, with animal characters working as partners, as a nod to him saving animals. I also think it could end with a giant Roy Koopa, as a nice reference to Eggman. Just a quick head canon there

@WS.Whisper

2 жыл бұрын

Or make Galleom as the final round instead

@CaptBlock

2 жыл бұрын

I love the idea. The fights could reference villains throughout the series on STH1's stages. Fight 1: Mii Brawler (Knuckles outfit) on Green Hill Zone: Knuckles started out as a villain. Fight 2: Metal Sonic on Arena Ferox: Metal Sonic obviously references Metal Sonic. Arena Ferox has some marble pillars. Fight 3: Cyan Inkling on Mushroom Kingdom: Chaos from Adventure. Mushroom Kingdom at sunrise would have some very similar aesthetics to Spring Yard. Fight 4: Black Sonic on Great Bay: Y'know I had to put Shadow in here. Great Bay has lots of water like Labyrinth. Fight 5: Green Falco, Pink Falcon, & yellow bike Wario on Spear Pillar: The Babylon Rogues. Spear Pillar is kinda green and it's night and sometimes tilts. Fight 6: Red Incin, green ZSS, & whatever 4 others are good on Midgar: The deadly six. Midgar is a clear choice for Scrap Brain. Final Fight: Giant Roy Koopa on Shadow Moses Island: It's Dr Eggman in Final Zone You could also have an ally in each fight: 1] yellow Fox (Tails) 2] purple Daisy (Amy helping with Metal makes too much sense), 3] Knuckles Mii (he became good) 4] white Sonic (Silver also fought Shadow), 5] pink Robin (I had to put Blaze in here), 6] Roy Koopa (Eggman helped fight the Zeti), Final] yellow Fox and Knuckles Mii (this doesn't need explanation)

@Pepperknight341

2 жыл бұрын

I think it should be about Sonic's History. 1. Sonic 1 - Sonic vs. Dr. Robotnik(Ludwig) on Green Hill 2. Sonic CD - Sonic vs. Metal Sonic(Sonic with a Metal Box) on Stardust Speedway(Big Blue) 3. Sonic 2 - Sonic and Mii(Tails costume) vs. Robotnik(Ludwig) and Mecha Sonic(Sonic with a Metal Box) on the Death Egg(Shadow Moses Island) 4. Sonic 3 & Knuckles - Sonic and Mii(Tails costume) vs. Robotnik(Ludwig) and Knuckles(Assist Trophy) on Hidden Palace(The Great Cave Offensive) 5. Sonic Adventure 2 - Sonic vs. Shadow(Black Sonic) with Shadow's Assist trophy on the Space Colony Ark(Lylat Cruiser) 6. Sonic Lost World - Sonic vs. The Deadly Six(Red Bowser, Yellow K. Rool, Pink Greninja, Blue Kirby, Green Beyonetta, and Purple Toon Link) on Windy Hill Boss. Forces - Sonic, Blue Sonic, and Red Wolf(Buddy(Wolf Avatar)) vs. Invisable Squirtle(Chaos 0), Red Bowser(Zavok), Black Sonic(Shadow with his Assist Tophy), Metal Sonic(Giant Sonic with Metal Box), Big Grey Lucario(Infinite), and Giant Ludwig with HP and Super Armor(Death Egg Robot Phase 3) on Null Space(Final Destination)

@Xxblade17

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@amesstarline5482

2 жыл бұрын

Or! To keep the Sonic vs his Rivals.. Green Hill with Ludwig, Eggman/Robotnik. Big Blue with Metal box Sonic. Etc etc, but also including Blaze, represented by a fire-using Lucina, on a Space Stage.

I really think you should have put galleom into Rob's classic route since gallium is a brawl boss

@alikaisdead

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

@@alikaisdead Not to mention they're both robots.

@Chainsmoker69420

2 жыл бұрын

And is still the finale in the R.O.B route

The unfortunate flaw with a lot of these route ideas is that DLC fighters are used as opponents, which you may notice no routes use at all. Only base game fighters are used as opponents in Classic Mode.

@ChromaLuke

2 жыл бұрын

With the exception of Terry facing off against himself, Ryu, and Ken at the end of his route, yeah... literally none of the DLC characters fight other DLC characters.

@ClawsAndTeeth

2 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate, but it makes sense. What if you got one DLC fighter, but not another? There has to be flexibility in those areas.

@real_abender

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClawsAndTeeth Exactly.

@kurisusenpai5728

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if you haven't purchased them. With every update, they were added to your game, so other players that have purchased them can use them against you. The only difference is that they don't appear in the selection screen, so YOU can not use them. (The same with their stages, music, etc.)

@MrMariosonicman

2 жыл бұрын

I like to imagine these routes as a "what if ultimate got a deluxe edition where DLC fighters and stages are part of the base game?"

A better version of Mario’s route would have him fighting third parties instead of Nintendo characters Round 1: Snake and Simon (Konami) Round 2: Sonic, Bayonetta, and Joker (Sega) Round 3: Mega Man and Ryu (Capcom) Round 4: PAC-MAN and Kazuya (Bandai) Round 5: Cloud, Hero, and Sora (Square Enix) Round 6: Banjo and Steve (Microsoft) Boss: Giga Bowser (Yes I know he’s Nintendo but Mario needs to fight him)

@toumabyakuya

2 жыл бұрын

Umm, Round 6 cannot work because they are DLC. If you lack the DLC, what would you fight?.

@SailAloy

2 жыл бұрын

So round 2,4, and 5 won't work either since they also use dlc Edit: wait i realized what you meant

@hiilikepizza3197

2 жыл бұрын

@@toumabyakuya a lot of the classic routes should have dlc characters anyways, and if dlc doesn’t count just put in ken and richter

@toumabyakuya

2 жыл бұрын

​@@hiilikepizza3197 The thing is that if they had DLC characters then the players that lack said DLC wouldn't be able to do said routes. Also, Ken and Richter wouldn't be able to fix anything because both Capcom and Konami have their own round.

@hiilikepizza3197

2 жыл бұрын

🤓

I really like the idea of Sephiroth’s final battle being against the four main party members

@Compucles

2 жыл бұрын

But isn't Aerith dead by then?

@tetertoterbadgame6194

2 жыл бұрын

Nah it was delayed because of the pandemic

My idea for Sora would have not only a Duck Hunt ally, but an additional hero from any given series teamed up against their respective villains. Mario joins the party against Bowser, Link joins against Ganondorf, etc. This would mimic the structure of Sora, Donald, and Goofy traveling to different worlds, joining with their protagonists, and beating up their villains with them. Maybe you could have a heartless horde in one of the battles, with various shadow-skinned characters.

@ClawsAndTeeth

2 жыл бұрын

I love that idea!

@zylderam2

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with this :)

@MrMariosonicman

2 жыл бұрын

it kinda has the same feel as Diddy kongs quest no? where he joins up to be the side-kick of the group?

I like Byleth's route, especially for the final boss part, because it also references how you can recruit students from other houses to join you to fight in the war, which in this case means you beat them up so they can join you fighting two giant hands

My biggest issue with smash ultimate’s classic mode is how short each route is and the lack of some variety could be an issue for some as it’s the same route each time with one character with no variation (and I mean if you choose the same character then it’s the same route) Plus lack of mini game variety is also a big issue as it’s the same running one each time

@kirbyofthestarsfan

2 жыл бұрын

I wish so badly there was a randomized Classic Mode so you weren't stuck with the same matchups if you only pick your main, even Smash Wii U was better at that

@OscarSanchez-vo9dx

2 жыл бұрын

This was one of my biggest issues with ults classic mode and tbh it along with a lot of other things really just brings the game down for me

@Buglin_Burger7878

Жыл бұрын

Not just the lack of variety in fights but even difficulty. People who enjoy difficulties over 5.0 have to sit through joke fights. People who can't play above 5.0 have to start at 1.0 to enjoy the mode. Not to mention difficulty is also based on match ups, some characters get harder fights then others. It is arguably the worst classic mode just from how it alienates everyone.

@asaeltorres7340

Жыл бұрын

Also there is no Classic All Star Mode

@asaeltorres7340

Жыл бұрын

@@Buglin_Burger7878 Also No Classic All Star Mode!

I personally would like to see Joker’s classic mode to be more in line with the story of Vanilla Persona 5 rather then reference P3, 4 and 5 all at once. Yes, I know the Incineroar fight is meant to reference Shido. If I were doing the Classic Mode route, I’d also have Joker have allies to fight against giant versions of regular fighters. Below is how I would’ve done things. The six initial fights reference six of the seven palaces, while I moved the Incineroar fight to be at the end. Here’s how I would have it play out: *Also… Vanilla P5 Spoilers* - *Fight 1:* Based on the Castle of Lust, the allies would be Pikachu Libre, Black Alt Captain Falcon and Red Alt Zero Suit Samus *(referencing Morgana, Ryuji and Ann)* against a giant red male Wii Fit Trainer to reference Kamoshida on Castle Siege. - *Fight 2:* Based on the Museum of Vanity, the ally would be Black Alt Chrom to reference Yusuke and the fight is against a giant gold King Dedede to reference Madarame on Suzaku Castle. - *Fight 3:* Based on the Bank of Gluttony, the ally would be Black Alt Shiek to reference Makoto and the fight is against two enemies this time: A normal sized green Wario to reference Kaneshiro and a giant metal gray Kirby to reference the giant piggy bank vault thing on Dracula’s Castle. - *Fight 4:* Based on the Pyramid of Wrath, the ally would be an Orange Inkling to reference Futaba and the fight is against a giant Bayonetta to reference Cognitive Wakaba on Mushroomy Kingdom’s battlefield variant. I would also have the Willy Capsule assist here to reference Futaba’s Persona, Necronomicon. - *Fight 5:* Based on the Spaceport of Greed, the ally would be a pink Villager to reference Haru and the fight is a horde battle against a various tiny ROBs and the final fighter is a normal sized Black Alt Samus to reference Okumura on Omega Midgar. - *Fight 6:* Based on the Casino of Envy, the ally would be a Joker in his Crow Alt as an obvious reference to Akechi and the fight is against a giant brown Alt Dark Samus with a Killing Edge equipped to reference Shadow Sae on Omega Fourside. - *Fight 7 and Final Fight:* Based on the Cruiser of Pride and it’s against the aforementioned Incineroar referencing Shido. However, before that you would have to fight the Crow alt Joker referencing Akechi’s boss fight and then the Incineroar spawns. There are two allies and they reference Personas, the turquoise Fierce Deity Link referencing Yoshitsune can stay but I would also include a blue Peach to reference Alice. Both of these Personas reference the Personas Joker used against Shido in the anime adaption. The stage itself would be Final Destination. *How would you change things? Feel free to let me know*

@MetaDHedge28

2 жыл бұрын

That's super clever. One suggestion tho during the Sae fight maybe before the Dark Samus comes out you can fight a black alt Zero Suit Samus to reference Shadow Sae's form before the robotic monstrosity she becomes

@alonsociampi

5 ай бұрын

​@@MetaDHedge28😮

*Minor spoilers for Fire Emblem Three Houses* I love the Byleth one, however the final boss could have Rathalos as a stand in for the final boss in Crimson Flower and Silver Snow with the Apex of the World playing in the background. Aside from that, it’s pretty accurate since it could also represent Byleth aggressively recruiting students from other houses. Edit: Also why is Marth the only Fire Emblem character to fight Rathalos? It’s practically a meme that the final boss on almost every Fire Emblem game is a dragon.

I've had a similar idea for Pokémon trainer, but limited it to the Pokémon league instead of randomly stopping by each gym that can be adapted. Fight 1: a horde of pokémon on the great cave offensive, referencing Victory Road. Has the appropriate music to help make it more obvious. Fight 2: Zero Suit Samus and the Ice climbers to reference Lorelei and her ice types. Fight 3: Ryu and Lucario to reference Bruno and his fighting types. Fight 4: There's no old lady on the roster, so I chose Zelda using her white-haired alt, along with Kirby using his black alt to reference Agatha and her Ghost Types (specifically Gastly) Fight 5: Marth and ridley to reference Lance and his Dragon Types. Fight 6: opposite gender Pokémon trainer to serve as the champion. and then the boss stays the same, mewtwo followed by Master Hand, referencing the battle which is unlocked after the league. Also, since I have a vendetta against uneven fights in classic modes, Pikachu will be your ally for the whole route. I guess fight 6 can also add a Pichu to properly mirror your team.

@Aaronitmar

2 жыл бұрын

Love this!

@NinjaPickle

2 жыл бұрын

Love this, but swap Marth with Roy, the red hair matches better. Everything else, great!

@DjoingDalton

2 жыл бұрын

@@NinjaPickle totally fair.

@vanessasandoval96

Жыл бұрын

@@Aaronitmar what if you make the DLC bosses in each of your future episodes Inkling classic mode is Octavio Greninja classic mode boss Rayquaza and arceus Ness and Lucas classic mode porky statue Incineroar classic mode boss Necrozma Hyness will be in DeDeDe classic mode as bosss

I love the change to the end of Sephiroth's route. I feel like the boss rush idea just screams "I'm OP and I know it."

The only thing I would change that you did is the final fight with Sephiroth against Cloud and the FF7 Miis. Specifically, I would make it so Cloud is the last fighter, because Cloud is also the last person Sephiroth fights in FF7, AND it feels a bit anticlimactic to end the fight on a Mii of all things.

@Aaronitmar

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah in retrospect that is a better ending, I realized it too while editing but it was a little too late to go back and change everything

@vanessasandoval96

Жыл бұрын

@@Aaronitmar what if Sakurai makes a DLC story mode when the subspace emmisary returns to smash ultimate Mario link with inkling boy and girl Simon and richter with pichu and Luigi

Not a bad selection. For me I would change Lucina's classic mode to include smashers that traveled through time (Link and young link) and kept Byleth's route the same. I totally agree with Greninja's route on having Piranha plant be with Ivysaur. While I thought of something else for ROB, your idea worked great (the only change I'd make is make ganondorf the sole final boss) Your idea for Sora is great. As for the pokemon trainer, I went with the squad strike matchup with non-fighting characters. (But your plan works too) For Sephiroth I would only have Cloud as the final opponent. Really good job overall!

Some tweaks I could see: -instead of bowser jr. and young link, have Byleth fight all of Bowser's kids as a horde. -Since he's a subspace boss, maybe use Galleom for ROB's final battle? -Have PKMN trainer's subspace focus on the elite four, with fights based around each member and the journey there. Those would be: 1. A battle in a cave stage with a horde of miis, for Victory Road. Give them more animal-themed costumes. 2. A battle on pokemon stadium 2's ice transformation, against ice climbers and greninja. Referencing Lorelei. 3. Boxing ring, against little mac and Ryu. Put in grey k. Rool too to reference Bruno's onix. 4. Luigi's Mansion, against dark samus, simon and bayonetta, for Agatha. Not a lot of "ghostly" characters in smash, but I did what I could. 5. Same Dragon idea from the video, maybe minus the Dragonborn 6. To reference the champion fight, Battle an opposing pokemon trainer, alongside falco, zelda and k.rool to reference his pidgeot, alakazam and rhydon respectively. This can be on main pokemon stadium. 7. Final Boss is still mewtwo, as you can only access mewtwo once you become champion

Well, in the case of Bowser Jr., it makes even more sense when you remember one of his lines in Mario + Rabbids says that he finished most of his homework.

Another way you could approach a Pokemon route would be to pair each enemy pokemon with a similar non-Pokemon fighter, as if they're its trainer. Like, Ken with Incineroar, Ryu with Lucario, Sheik with Greninja, Ness/Snake with Mewtwo, etc.

An additional thing in Byleth’s route, have them parter with Robin, prioritizing tomes, against pit

Falco's should be vs sidekicks/2nd Bananas/Henchmen 1 Daisy-common character in secondary/sports games 2 Isabelle-assistant to Tom Nook in ACNH 3 Meta Knight/Dedede-partner characters in some Kirby games like Return to Dream Land 4 Diddy Kong-DK's partner in DKC games 5 Bowser Jr-Bowser's lackey 6 Luigi-OG Player 2

Here’s an idea: Change Marth’s Classic Mode to be like this Stage 1: Pikachu Stage 2: Captain Falcon Stage 3: Ice Climbers Stage 4: Peach Stage 5: Falco Stage 6: Puff Final: Fox Only these stages (Order doesn’t matter): Battlefield, Final Destination, Yoshi’s Story, Dream Land, Fountain, Pokemon Stadium. Title: Something like ‘Melee’s Top Tiers’

@thebenwilbert

2 жыл бұрын

@Cliven Soewarna I mean either one of them can have it, but ONLY one of them

I had a different way of fixing Byleth's classic route that still works with a similar theme Instead of fighting against all Fire Emblem characters, you fight alongside all Fire Emblem characters. ...I must admit to not having the opponents thought out all that well, but you can mostly just reference their classic routes. dragons for Marth, knights using their black alt for Ike, a few swordsmen for roy, etc. This doesn't work too well with Chrom and Lucina though...

@toumabyakuya

2 жыл бұрын

- For Chrom: A Reddish Bowser (in representation of Kamuz [from The Legend of Valkyrie]), Bayonetta (in representation of Saya) and a Black Sheik wearing a Bunny Hood (in representation of Sheath) as a reference to Project XZone 2 (another crossover game they were part of). - For Lucina: Two Robins (a Male and a Female) and a Ridley (in representation of Grima). You also have an ally Chrom.

I have an idea for Fox: We only change the 6th fight. It’s against Wolf, but I was thinking about something… Why we wouldn’t add the characters that represent Fox’s teammates and the ones of Wolf in Star Fox 64? In the original game, when Star Wolf comes, Fox fights the team with his friends. Why only the leaders are fighting?! Adding Greninja (Slippy), King Dedede (Peppy), Falco, Yoshi (Leon), Wario (Pigma) and Diddy Kong (Andrew) would be amazing! (+ Fox would still end up being alone against the Hands (Andross), as a reference to how Fox fights Andross alone to protect Falco, Slippy and Peppy.)

This is how I would recreate Falco's classic route: "Melee sized adventure" (name pending) Round 1: vs. Peach and Mario in Peach's Castle. Round 2: vs. Zelda and Sheik in Temple. Round 3: vs. A team of Kirbys in Green Greens. Round 4: vs. A team of Pikachus, Pichus and Jigglypuffs in Pokemon Stadium (the only item for this round are Poke Balls). Round 5: vs. 3 Ness in Onett. Round 6: vs. Metal Mario and Metal Luigi in the Battlefield form of Final Destination. Boss: Giga Bowser.

For my Classic Mode Change, I'd overhaul Sora's. I do think what it is now is fits perfectly, but I feel it could better represent Kingdom Hearts, so here's my idea: The title is "My Friends are my Power", and it has Sora and Duck Hunt (Donald and Goofy) team up with various heroes to face off against the villains of their franchise, with each villain being powered up in someway (as if they were corrupted by Darkness). Not only does this reference the Disney worlds, the villains getting corrupted by darkness, and how you often get party members in each one, it also references Ultimate's theme itself of "Heroes and Villains", tying up the final DLC with a cute lil bow. Fight 1 teams you up with Fox to fight Wolf. Fight 2, you're with Samus to fight Ridley or Dark Samus. Fight 3, you're teamed up with Kirby (and King Dedede?) to fight Marx. Fight 4, you team up with Link and Zelda to fight a stronger Ganon. Fight 5 teams up with Mario and Luigi to fight a stronger Giga Bowser. Fight 6, it ends with you teaming up with Cloud to fight Sephiroth, but Duck Hunt is gone for this fight. The final battle, you fight a Suped-Up Master Hand and Crazy Hand while teamed up with Duck Hunt, Mario, Link, and Kirby.

@Twilight17Petkoton

Жыл бұрын

Not really Sora face Sephiroth alone in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 without any help so no Cloud in his fight.

@DavrenHelsmere

Жыл бұрын

@@Twilight17Petkoton But then it takes away from the whole theme of this classic mode, working alongside friends. Is it more accurate to have Sora fight Sephiroth alone? Absolutely, but it goes against the theme of the rest of the classic mode, plus I wasn't trying to recreate the games' scenarios, just the theme.

i love the changes you did for these routes, not only they're an improvement over the originals but also better thought out than the previous video. Love them! (also yeah is odd that they didn't retrofit the Routes, they did for certain Spirits) yeah the lack of DLC BossRush was such a missed opportunity.

Here’s a new one for Captain Falcon “Race to the Finish” This classic mode would be based on characters from other racing games. 1. Mario & Luigi - Figure 8 Circuit - Referencing the Mario Kart series. 2. Kirby, Dedede & Meta Knight - Saffron City - Referencing Kirby Air Ride and the City Trial mode of that game. 3. Diddy Kong & Banjo - Kongo Falls - Referencing Diddy Kong Racing 4. Cloud & Falco - Northern Crater - Referencing Cloud’s appearance in the Chocobo Racing series with Falco acting as a stand-in for Chocobo. 5. Link, Isabelle, Inkling - Mario Kart Circuit - References how all 3 of them were guest characters in Mario Kart 8. 6. Sonic - Green Hill Zone - Referencing the MANY racing games Sonic has been in over the years. Also him being the fastest character in the cast. Boss: Galleom - Can turn into a car that shoots off super fast.

I looooooove the concept of Byleth's route. Not only it takes into account he's a teacher, but also includes the "Recruit" mechanic that Fire Emblem is known for. I know the og route could've gone for that too, but here is more noticiable and not just a team up to defeat a greater boss.

Pirana plant's classic mode could be changed to be "The Top Minions" where he would take on fighters that represent famous Mario enemies,like for exemple a mii with a shy guy hat on subcon(mushroom Kingdom II) or a Giant jiglipuff on brinstar (represeting the bully)and ending with a lot of caracteres represeting some of the most famous mainline Mario bosses (a metal Pac-Man represeting king-bob omb,a Giant grey kirby representing King boo,Wario...and more!

Sephiroth's final round was the best. What a great twist to end a boss rush!! You are the final boss!!

6:29 I love how you say "I know he's DLC and all" here when you straight up put Byleth against a character who at the time of his/her release wasn't even announced.

wouldve been nice if sephiroths final boss was galeem (even if thats unrealistic), wouldve been a fantastic callback to his reveal trailer

I love the callback to Subspace for R.O.B. I would have loved a teamup of DDD, Luigi and Ness somewhere in there though.

@Superemie401

2 жыл бұрын

Yea! They saved the whole casting (Expect some characters, like Sonic.) with the help of Kirby! Luigi would use the moves he shares with Mario, referring how Luigi was Mario’s semi-clone in Brawl.

@vanessasandoval96

Жыл бұрын

What if Sakurai makes a DLC story mode called subspace emmisary returns to smash ultimate and add bosses DJ Octavio, Rayquaza, Duon, porky Statue, Ultra Necrozma, Hyness instead of Marx and queen Metroid

falco's classic mode was pretty lame. it was "soar above the darkness", and he fights dark characters. not only does it have nothing to do with falco as a character, but it was already done by other characters. instead, his classic mode should have been called "personally, I prefer the air", referencing his line in brawl, which it's self is a reference to star fox 64. in this route, all of falco's opponents would have wings and all the stages would take place high in the sky. he could fight pit and dark pit in skyworld, metaknight on the halberd, charizard on pokemon stadium 2's flight variant, duck hunt on pilot wings, ridley on corneria, then team up with fox and fight wolf on venom as a reference to star fox 64. and then the boss is rathalos, because rathalos has wings.

@theherohartmut

2 жыл бұрын

Bayonetta's route already covers the winged characters theme.

I always had the hope that as a extra special bonus, once all the DLC was out they would add an update where you can choose to do any route with any character, provided you first cleared the original route And for Byleth's route I don't know, I think after Inklings the concept becomes kind of a stretch, since their main thing is their different weapons I would've gone with fighters who have a diverse arsenal of tools/equipment: The Links, Snake, Inkling, Villager & Isabelle, K.Rool, Bowser Jr, The Pits etc. Even Shulk, he only has the monado but it can "transform" like Byleth's weapon treasure things (I dunno, I only played the GBA fire emblem and got bored)

Here are my ideas on fixed final battles or additional bosses: *Fox/Falco:* Marx (to represent Andross and also another Space-themed battle) *Ness:* Giant Mewtwo on Onett omega form (replicating Giygas' 1st form) *Peach:* Giga Bowser on Peache's Castle omega form (removing Bowser from one of the battles before) *Dr. Mario:* One red, blue, and yellow Bowser (to represent each color of the viruses from Dr. Mario) *Pichu:* Marx (he technically is the lightest boss of all bosses excluding Galeem) *Roy:* Ganon (because he's the only boss with swords) *Wario:* Giga Bowser *Sonic:* Roy Koopa or Galleom (To reference Dr. Eggman) *Ike:* Giant Black Knight Mii Swordfighter on Castle Siege omega form *Villager:* Marx (due to his innocent appearance before his transformation) *Shulk:* Galleom (to reference the robot-like enemies in Xenoblade) *Greninja:* Incineroar right before Dracula (to represent Dark Type) *Palutena:* Ganon (alongside some tiny Pits and Dark Pits on your side to represent the Centurions from Kid Icarus) *Richter:* Crazy Hand on the Castlevania omega stage regarding difficulty level (Crazy Hand is basically the Echo of Master Hand) *Banjo + Kazooie:* Bayonetta right before Master + Crazy Hand (to reference Gruntilda) Let me know if there are any other ideas for unique bosses👍

@emoji3266

2 жыл бұрын

Did you take information from Odyssey Central? It kind of reminds me of that.

@chamtheman551

2 жыл бұрын

@@emoji3266 some of it. He's got some fire ideas ngl

Snakes classic mode could be changed into the actual boss fights from MGS1, starting with Fox as Revolver Ocelot (like in World of Light), Sheik as the Cyborg Ninja, Mewtwo obviously Psycho Mantis, Rosalina as Sniper Wolf, maybe Ganondorf or another heavy fighter as Vulcan Raven, and here's where we twist things a little, a fight against the other Snakes, Tiger Stripe Snake as Big Boss (MGS3), Wolf as Solidus Snake (MGS2) and Ken as Liquid Snake (MGS1), then the Galleom fight of course, but with male Corrin as an assistant to represent Raiden (from MGS2)

Bowser Junior New Route: When I'm Older... Fights against child and adolescent characters, each battle increasing in age. Battle 1: Pichu, called a "Baby Pokémon". On Pokemon Stadium. Battle 2: Young Link, age 9. On Great Bay. Battle 3: Lucas and Ness, age 12 and 13, respectively, on Onett. Battle 4: Roy, age 15, on Castle Siege. Battle 5: Little Mac, age 17, on Boxing Ring Battle 6: Shulk, age 18, on the battlefield form of Gaur Plain Boss: Mario on Delfino Plaza, references the full line the title of the route is based on; "...when I'm older, I wanna fight that Mario, again!". To compensate for a plain 1v1 being the boss of this route, Mario much more difficult than normal, regardless of a chosen difficulty.

I would've loved to see a mii classic mode where you can create your own route for each Mii you make.

Snake Classic Mode that mimics the Shadow Moses Incident 1. Mii Gunner - Revolver Ocelot 2. Metal Greninja - Gray Fox 3. Mewtwo - Psycho Mantis 4. ZSS - Sniper Wolf 5. Giant Falco - Vulcan Raven 6. Giant Rob - Metal Gear Rex 7. Snake - Liquid Snake

Here's my idea for Ken. I saw the last video and while I respect the idea, I think this one would fit a bit better: Go Home and be a Family Man (a quote from Guile from SF2 and the fact that Ken is father to his son Mel). Ken would fight every character on the roster that is cannonically a dad in game. (so no Fox as he only becomes a dad during one ending of Star Fox Command, a game we still want to purge from our minds). 1. Chrom (Father of Lucina) 2. Male Robin (Father of Morgan) 3. Terry (Adopted Father of Rock Howard) 4. Male Corrin (Father of Kana) 5. Kazuya (Father of Jin Kazama) 6. Bowser (Father of Bowser Jr.) 7. (Boss) Dracula (Father of Alucard)

Here was my idea for Byleth's Route. I like the idea of recruiting your children to fight at the end tho. Byleth’s Classic Mode Route is now Post-Timeskip. In this route, Byleth awakens after a long slumber, discovering WOT some Fighters have been up to since their respective timeskips. Round 1 - Vs. Ike, in reference to Radiant Dawn. Stage - Castle Siege. Round 2 - Vs. Link, in reference to BTOW Stage - Great Plateau Tower. Round 3 - Vs. Young Link, in reference to Ocarina of Time. Stage - Hyrule Castle. Round 4 - Vs. Pit, in reference to the Three Year time skip in Kid Icarus Uprising. Stage - Reset Bomb Forest. Round 5 - Vs. Sonic, in reference to the Bad Futute in Sonic CD. Stage - Midgar. Round 6 - Vs. Villager, in referecing to the time skipping exploit in Animal Crossing games. Stage - Smashville. BOSS: Vs. Ganon

Idea for a reworked Bowser's classic mode: "Showtime!" This classic mode features fighters that represent bosses that Bowser fights in Bowser's Inside Story Stages 1-6 play Tough Guy Alert! Stage 1: Donkey Kong (Color 8) on Spiral Mountain to represent Midbus Stage 2: Giant Duck Hunt (Color 7) on Tortimer Island to represent Broggy Stage 3: Min Min (Color 6) on Garden of Hope to represent Wiggler Stage 4: ROB (Color 2) on Omega Golden Plains to represent Tower of Yikk Stage 5: Ridley (Color 2) om Omega Spear Pillar to represent Super Peach's Castle Stage 6: Meta Knight (Color 5) on Dracula's Castle to represent Dark Fawful Boss Stage: Either Bowser (Color 8) on Prism Tower at the very top of the tower or Giga Bowser with The Grand Finale playing in the background. Thoughts?

I've had an idea for richter's route It's called "belmont legacy" or "vampire hunters" It's a route where richter takes on anyone who wielded the vampire killer in any of the castlevania games before and after the events of symphony of the night 1: richter (white alt) (leon belmont) 2: simon (black alt) (trevor belmont) palutena or zelda (blue alt) (sypha belnades) sheik ( red alt) (grant dynasty) 3: richter (red alt) (christopher belmont) 4: simon (red alt) (juste belmont) richter (green alt) (Nathan graves) 5: richter (yellow alt) (john morris) simon ( red alt) (johnathan morris) 6: richter (red alt) (julius belmont) simon (red alt) (gabriel belmont) richter(black alt) (victor Belmont) Final boss: dracula or simon belmont I know it's just the 2 belmonts, i will look for other characters for representation

That "Ancient Minister" route is nuts! so much Subspace Emissary nostalgia

i think that richter classic mode could use some change. The theme could be "The Wip's memory", and it would see Richter against all of the mainline belmonts/castlevania protagonists in stamina battles. For the first one, a battle against a richter with Leon's alt (the white and red one) with "Lament of innocence" as the song amd castle siege as the stage. Next a battle against a simon with his yellow alt, a Zelda with the blue alt and a red shiek (and alucard as an assist if it works) to reference Trevor's party in Castlevania III with beginning in the background and dracula's castle as the stage. After that, a battle against Simon Belmont with "Simon Belmont theme" from super Castlevania IV with reset bomb as the stage, then a battle against a richter with the red alt and a yellow alt Chrom to reference Juste Belmont and Maxim with awake in the background (to reference another gba castlevania game) and kalos league as the stage. After that a battle against a mii sword fighter with a black pirate suite and blonde long hairs to match Alcuard's appereance and a green alt palutena to reference Maria, and the tragic prince as a music and unova league as the stage. After that a battle against a red alt Richter and a blue alt zelda in spear pillar with "ripped silence" as the music, to reference the battle against richter you need to take in order to use the vampire killer in Portrait of ruin. After that a battle against a richter with the yellow alt to reference Julius belmon, with "heart of fire" as background music and bridge of eldin as the stage. Lastly, replacing Dracula, a battle against a Richter with the dark blue alt, in dracula's castle and with divine bloodlines as the background song, to reference his battle in Symphony of the night, with alucard's assist trophy and smash balls as the only item spawning to make it more accurate. Hope you'll like my idea and sorry for my bad english

Meta Knightmare - Meta Knight Ally is a Green Marth in all fights, referencing Blade Knight - Big Pirahna Plant and King Dedede in the Boxing Ring, referencing Whispy Woods and King Dedede - Big red Falco and four small yellow Falcos on Skyloft, referencing Dynablade and her children - Two Big brown Kirbys in the omega form of Great Cave Offensive, referencing Wham Bam Rock - R.O.B, a blue Robin, Meta Knight and a red Charizard in hazardless Magicant, referencing Computer Virus - Multiple coloured Yoshis in Northern Cave, referencing Chamelo Arm - Meta Knight with the Galacta Knight alt in Final Destination

Something I noticed in the menu of Smash Ultimate, is that the picture they use for the tips menu feels outdated now that Byleth is in the game. It shows Robin teaching a group of kids, which worked well enough for the time, but it feels wrong now that there is someone in the game whose job is teaching children. I guess it still KIND OF works, because Robin is a tactician, but still, Byleth fits there so much better.

I'd like to see a Game and Watch classic mode that focuses entirely on handheld history rather than general gaming. We have Pac-Man for that and Game and Watch is important to handheld gaming in particular.

Man that new ROB route is awesome! I loved Subspace in all it's insanity and I really think a route like this would be right up Sakurai's alley! Great work!

Made a new route theme for Sephiroth titled "I Will Never be a Memory" where he fights against characters who have undergone serious trauma in their past or are mentally scarred. Your idea for the final battle still stands but here's the new round 1-6 I made with the help of a friend: -Lucas on New Pork City -Link on Find Mii -Snake on Shadow Moses Island -Mewtwo on Frigate Orpheon -Shulk on Palutena's Temple -Hero on Bridge of Eldin

My Sonic's classic mode rework:The name of the mode is:The classical throwback. And in this classic mode Sonic will go through his past games. Round 1: Battle against Roy the coopaling on Green hill Zone, representing the first boss in Sonic the hedgehog 1 Round 2:Boss fight against Galleom with the Fox(or Mii gunner Tails costume) Ally, This represents Death egg robot from Sonic 2, and Fox represents Tails The Fox Round 3:Battle against Red Capitan Falcon on Windy Hill Battlefield form, with Angel island music playing in the background, this represents Knuckles the Echidna, and Windy hill represents Angel Island zone Round 3: Fight against Metall form of Sonic on the Omega New Pork city, This represents Metall Sonic, and stage represents Stardust Speedway bad Future from Sonic Cd, where You fight metall sonic in the original Round 4:Fight against Blue inkling on the Forcide stage with Open your Heart music, this represents Sonic Adventure and the Chaos Fight from that game Round 5:Fight against Giant King K Rool on some space stage (idk wich one to chose) with the Shadow the hedgehog Assist Trophy apearing in the beginning of the Round, and Live And learn music, This represents Bio Lizard from Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow assisting is a referens to the original where Shadow assisting in this fight Final Round:Team battle with Fox(or mii gunner Tails) And Red Little Mac against Dr. Mario Red variant and Metall Sonic on the Meta Knight ship(forget the stage name sorry) with Sonic heroes music playing in the background, This referensing Sonic Heroes, the stage referensing Final Fortress, Dr. Mario-Dr. Eggman Metall Sonic - Neo Metall Sonic, then fighting a Giant Meta Ridley representing Metall Madness/Overlord from Sonic Heroes Phew..... That was long Please like this comment so Aaronitmar Will see it!

The Byleth one was pretty clever.

"Hey, Hands, Leave these kids alone!" said Byleth, commanding their students to fight.

I think that instead of pkmn trainers gym type route It would be more interesting to have somewhat of a trainer battle going on Name: head on battle! Fight one: would be a pikachu (any alt) and younglink (alt 6) Fight two: pichu(can be changed) with wario (alt 8) referencing the hikers Fight three: pichu with isabelle (any alt) referencing the fan girl Fight four: jigglypuff with peach (third alt, red) referancing the breeders Fight five: lucario and lucina (4th alt) or min min (7th alt) this one is tough. this references meylene's fight (gym leader) from gen four Fight Six: mewtwo with palutena (alt 3) referancing the physic trainers Final fight: Master hand (their really isnt anything else that fits) Hope people see this, I put a good chunk of time lmao. Their is definatly things that can change but I like the idea of pokemon fighting with their trainers similar to how legends arceus showed it.

Byleth Classic Mode: Axes or Tails Round 1 - VS Simon Belmont Round 2 - VS King K. Rool/Bowser Jr. (Ludwig Costume) Round 3 - VS Ritcher Belmont/Steve/Alex (Tennis Costume) Round 4 - VS ARMS Horde Battle: Min Min/Mii Brawlers (Spring Man/Ribbon Girl/Ninjara Costumes) Round 5 - VS Zombie/Mii Gunner (Tails Costume) Round 6 - VS Tails and Axes Horde Battle: Koopalings (All Costumes except Ludwig)/Mr. Game and Watch/Robin (Male)/Corrin (Female) Final Round - All Fire Emblem Characters VS Ganon

Ironically, Disney was very open to having their characters appear in Smash. It was Sakurai who didn’t want non-video game elements in the game, which I really respect. Really committing to that stance despite the money he could have made

9:00 I 100% agree that there should’ve been a whole boss rush mode using the mechanics of Sephiroth’s classic mode. And as a bonus, include Galeem and Dharkon as well.

One main change I would add across the board is add in more assist trophies act as Bosses. Considering there are spirit matches where taking fighting a specific assist trophy is an objective, it should be within the teams tools to do this if they thought of it. Considering Smash Ultimate is the first game where Assist trophies can be knocked out it would feel pretty cool to have specific dedicated rounds to fight some of them. Adding the Black Knight & Mother Brain Assist Trophies in particular feels like they can really spice up some routes.

1:41 Pit: I never learned how to READ!!! Byleth: Read N!&&@, Read!

Idea: Change marios to " reclaiming the throne " and have it be a retelling of Mario Land 2, and have it end with a wario (with his land skin) that uses mega mushrooms bc wario was taller back then

For Ridley: Orphan Maker He’d fight characters with a parent-child relationship, but he would only need to kill the character that represents the parent. Chrom and Lucina, Pikachu and Pichu, Dr. Mario (representing Dr. Light) and Megaman, Heihachi (Mii fighter) and Kazuya, Rosalina and Luma, and Giga Bowser and Bowser Jr. The final battle would, of course, be against Samus with the Metroid assist trophy.

- Byleth: I personally would've made Joker's stage not be Mementos, and instead be one of the ones based on city-like environments such as Saffron City or Fourside, as Mementos is a cognitive space and so it clashes with the school idea a bit. (The Phantom Thieves thing is pretty much done on their free time, again contrasting with the idea that Byleth's route focuses on the school aspect. Other than that, it's pretty solid) - Greninja: a bit disappointed because I didn't think Plant would be the best idea for accompanying Ivysaur as a trainer stand-in as it's almost like a Pokemon itself, but that might just be my bias since I would've put Daisy there since she's a flower expert (it's in the name lol. Effects as well). Even funnier would be a case of having both. XD (Ultimately I do understand it, though, especially given Charizard in another round is accompanied by freaking Bowser and not, y'know, Mario or Roy or Ken, humans who just so happen to have fire powers) - ROB: a great idea, though I would argue that in Subspace, ROB didn't exactly take orders from Wario or even Bowser, really just Ganondorf as far as we know, so while everything else is amazing, I would've made the final round be against a giant red Ganondorf (and maybe a bunch of easy-to-launch mooks?) on Frigate Orpheon omega, referencing his hologram in the ROB reveal cutscene (with the mooks representing the impending mob fight afterwards) - Pokemon Trainer: same as with Greninja, though I'd argue Daisy would help make the Eirika parallel even stronger (both in default and green alts) by giving it a more physical ressemblance. Everything else is great however. - Sephiroth: to be fair, having a fight or two be the exception to the general theme is not really a big offender, several routes do it especially for the sake of reference. If anything, it adds some meat to the route, and I actually really like this idea (though it is a shame about the Miis's looks. '^^).

Absolutely love these ideas!

Lucas' route should be a reference to chapter 7 of Mother 3, The Seven Needles Round 1: Giant Pink Yoshi on Luigi's Mansion, reference to Oh-So-Snake and Osohe Castle, the first needle's location Round 2: Bowser (or Ridley) on Distant Planet, reference to Ultimate Chimera and Murasaki Forest, the second needle's location Round 3: White Donkey Kong on Summit, reference to Steel Mechorilla and Snowcap Mountain, the third needle's location Round 4: Wario on Brinstar Depths, reference to New Fassad and Fire Mountain, the fourth needle's location Round 5: Three Robs on Spiral Mountain, reference to Barrier Trio and Tanetane Island, the fifth needle's location Round 6: Three Mii Gunners and Mega Man on Gerudo Valley, reference to Pigmasks, Masked Man and Argilla Pass, sixth needle's location Final Round: Against Mega Man, then Lucas with alternative costume similar to Claus on Northern Cave, reference to final fight against Masked Man and Cave of the Future, the last needle's location

The use of the pictochat stage in Byleths route is a clear reference to children using pictochat in school instead of learning.

We need a Classic Mode+ someday. Even though it might never happen, but I can still imagine.

“Everyone who wears glasses loves school.” Me (Who still has PTSD from his days in public school.): Welp time to get LASIK.

Sonic should fight Galleom (however it’s spelled). The hand thing kind of makes sense since he’s fought Eldritch horrors before, but Sonic’s main big bad is eggman. There are far more instances of him taking down big mechanical robots. It would also be cool to see a Snake route either based on the game MGS1 or just a highlight of iconic fights throughout the series (The Boss, Liquid, Ocelot in MGS4, etc). Snake’s classic mode theme was a lot of fun, but I think it would be cool to see this too. His original classic mode final boss can remain the same or serve as a penultimate depending

I totally agree on what you said for the sephiroth final battle rework, however I also thought sephiroth could have as a full route of fighting off lab rats/abominations (Mewtwo, dark samus, meta ridley + a fight with a bunch of doctor Mario's as to make it seem like a science development team) and make it be called "Project JS training sim". That is my idea for the sephiroth rework route

About the assist trophy thing with byleth, it is possible, as in ness' classic mode, only jeff and starman will appear

In terms of changes I'd implement, I'd make Wario's final fight a Dr. Mario 64 reference where he fights Dr. Mario who becomes Metal Dr. Mario upon being KO'd and the same goes for Dr. Mario where he fights Wario who soon transitions into a fight against Dracula, referencing Vampire Wario. For Sonic, I'd make his final fight against Galleom since it's the closest to a mech Eggman would use against him and perhaps the Assist Trophies can be Knuckles & Shadow as well. Finally, if I could change Fox's final battle, I'd make it a Giant Green Charizard as a reference to his Subspace fight against Rayquaza or a 2 on 2 where he and Falco fight against Bowser and Giant Diddy Kong.

Your ideas are pretty cool, I wish those could be in the game

For Shulk's Classic Mode Route, I would replace Mega Man with Galleom or Meta Ridley to represent Metal Face. Part of me wishes Metal Face was an actual boss.

Congrats on 250k

Fun fact: Disney didn't have any shenanigans at all, it was Nomura and Sakurai himself the ones who limited the Disney part of Sora

He's an alternate for Corrin's rather lame Classic Route. Instead of making it about black vs white, make it all about family. Mario and Luigi, Bowser and Bowser Jr. , Chrom and Lucina (and maybe Female Robin), Pikachu and Pichu Kazuya and the Heihachi Mii (free-for-all) Simon and Richter, There's probably better choices that I'm forgetting.

@theherohartmut

2 жыл бұрын

Rosalina has the whole 'mother of the Lumas' thing going for her, so she could fit that as well.

@cloudycloud7666

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That's Great Idea!

One change I would make to Roy’s classic mode is make the route’s boss Ganon. Roy’s classic is titled *A Journey of Swords* so it would have been perfect for him to fight Ganon who uses two swords.

One fix I would like to see to Classic Mode is the 3 2 1 Go opening countdown from VS mode. That's how 1P mode was in Smash 64 and I hate how so much was changed for the worse since Melee.

@TheKitKatThe

2 жыл бұрын

not a fix just old

@victorromero8010

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKitKatThe Well I want the old for consistency's sake!

@TheKitKatThe

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorromero8010 things change it's pretty simple

I could see Bayonetta be remade where it's called "A Witch with No Memories" Round 1: Pit hoard on Umbran Clock Tower with the red and white bayo skin as an ally Round 2: Giant White DK on Reset Bomb Factory representing the Beloved enemies Round 3: Giant White Charizard on Norfair since Fortitudo can control lava Round 4: Gold Meta Knight on Umbran Clock Tower with the timer item spawning Round 5: Red and White Bayo on Fourside representing the final Jeanne Fight Round 6: Black suit Kazuya representing Rodin. If there's no DLC then white Bayo to rep Loptr Round 7: Same Giant Palutena

While I do like Greninja’s classic route, it would have worked for any Pokemon fighter, really. I’m a little shocked we didn’t get a simple, water-themed route for it, considering the number of stages and characters that involve water in some way. I would have Steel Divers spawn in all fights at a low rate, since they’re submarines. 1. King K. Rool, an aquatic crocodilian, on Kongo Falls. BGM: “King K. Rool/Ship Deck 2” 2. A full Turf War team of four Inklings, two dark blue and two light blue, on just the water transformation of Pokemon Stadium. They don’t fight with water, but the characters of Splatoon are all based on aquatic life. BGM: “Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.)” 3. Toon Link, in his blue costume to reference the Zora Tunic, on Pirate Ship. BGM: “Great Sea/Menu Select” 4. Mario and Bowser Jr. on Delfino Plaza. There’s only one water attack between the two, but this represents the oceanic setting of Super Mario Sunshine. BGM: “Ricco Harbor” 5. Corrin, the water dragon, on Great Bay. BGM: “Filled With Hope” 6. And of course, Greninja and Squirtle as Smash's resident Water-types, on the Flood Chamber transformation of Kalos Pokemon League. Greninja wears the green Politoed outifit, but switches to the default skin if the player is green. BGM: “Battle! (Dialga/Palkia) / Spear Pillar,” since Palkia is itself a Water-type Pokemon. 7. Bonus Stage 8. Unfortunately, none of the bosses feature water in their attacks or backgrounds. Master Hand is the best option, since its paint ball attack at least ties it in the with the Inkling battle earlier. BGM: “The Keeper of the Lake,” music from an underwater boss fight in Hey! Pikmin.

@doctorlit

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Came up with another: I thought of a fun idea for Sheik, since her classic mode is pretty similar to R.O.B.’s. Since Sheik teaches Link what songs to play in Ocarina of Time, we could theme her classic mode around the stages that have special music interactions! Classic Mode: A ˅ ˄ A ˅ ˄ 1. Ice Climbers on Summit, with “Ice Climber (Brawl) as the BGM. This song syncs with the stage’s animation; they both loop at the same time, and the tone changes between the stage being at the top of the glacier and when it drifts through the sea. 2. Wario and Mr. Game & Watch on Gamer, with “Gamer” as the BGM. When “Gamer” plays on this stage, it cuts in and out to facilitate the jump scares and fake-outs in the stage’s background. 3. Ryu on Suzaku Castle, with “Ryu Stage Type B” as the BGM. When the tracks that are direct rips from Street Fighter titles play on this stage, the song switches to a “critical version” when one player or team is nearing defeat, or when time is running out. 4. Kirby and King Dedede on Dream Land Game Boy, with “Kirby’s Dream Land Retro Medley” as the BGM. As the stage transitions between different locations, the medley changes to match. Oh, and let’s put Kirby and Dedede in their retro, greyscale costumes to match the stage! 5. Captain Falcon on Port Town Aero Dive, with “Port Town” as the BGM. When the SNES rips from F-Zero play on this stage, the music is delayed until after the announcer says “Go,” mimicking the point when the music starts during races in F-Zero games. 6. Bonus Stage 7. A horde battle on New Donk City hall, featuring all the Super Mario Odyssey characters who appear in Smash: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, and a Mii Brawler in the Toad costume. BGM: “Jump Up, Super Star!” On this stage, the individual musical elements have to be added by fighters touching the musicians during gameplay. 8. Giga Bowser on Super Mario Maker Ω form, with “Style Switch: Ground Theme” as the BGM. This song switches between the ground themes of different Mario games to match the stage as it changes between graphics. Giga Bowser does appear on Ω form stages in some real Classic Modes, so I’m pretty sure this would work.

9:40, yes it does, this is the fight to determine the fate of the world (this is the case in like 70% of jrpgs) so it will be the final fight for both, ignoring post game of corse.

Luigi Needs To have GHOST THEMED CHARACTERS!!! His Should Be Called ``Exploring The Mansion``

For Meta Knight: Meta Knightmare Ultimate! Fighting characters that didn't debut in Kirby, but still have connections to Kirby, like Mario and Peach in Boxing Ring to reference Spring Breeze, Samus and ROB from Dream Land 3, Ness in Dream Land like in SSB64, and etc. The boss would be Master Hand and Crazy Hand, referencing their fight in Amazing Mirror. Dedede's would be called The Great King, referencing Bandee's nickname for him. He'd fight baddies like Bowser, Ganondorf, and Ridley, with their respective heroes fighting alongside Dedede. Lucina's could center around time travel, facing duos whose lives were greatly distanced, like Ness and Lucas or Richter and Simon, and characters with Sequel alts, like Cloud and Bayonetta.

Can I suggest a Luigi's Mansion based route: of course we can start with Kirbys rappresenting the Boos, then we can have a rappresentato for the ghost Boss (we could even go for the main bosses) from each game, like... A giant Ness for Chauncey, a giant purple Game and Watch for Boogmire, Robin for the Poltergeist, 5... I dunno... White Bayonettas for the Possessors, Ludwig for Amadeus Wolfgeist (get it, both named after musicians?), Wario rappresenting Ug, Piranha Plant as Fishook and a giant Kirby as King Boo.

I really like the video, one change will be on Byleth, the final boss will fit more as Rathalos, because is the most identical boss to simulate a Demonic Beast or even the Inmaculate One And if I can change a route, will be Robin, less than fire and thunder, more a Awakening in a Nutshell: - Horde of Miis, (Risen) - Lucina ("Marth") - Shiek (Gangrel) with killing edge This battles with Chrom as an ally - Ike (Walhart) - Zelda (Aversa) - Ganondorf (Validar) This battles with Lucina as ally The last battle will be agains Rathalos (again I know but I really like the battle), but in Ganon's boss stage, with Chrom and Lucina both as allies with Id Purpose as music. The name will be "Invisible Ties"

I think I would change Wolf's classic mode, if DLC characters can be included. Fitting his theme of being a mercenary. Wolf: Guns for hire 1st fight - Samus: Considering that she's employed as a bounty hunter, we can argue that she's done some mercenary work in the past. 2nd fight - Captain Falcon: Like Samus, he too is a bounty hunter. 3rd fight - Cloud: technically counts since he only worked for AVALANCHE in the beginning just to get a paycheck. Nothing else. If it wasn't for Tifa basically asking him to do the next mission to blow up the next mako reactor, he would've just left. 4th fight - Snake (in a Snake Eater themed alt): While Solid Snake himself isn't a mercenary, his 'father' Big Boss is, in one form or another, considering he would form mercenary organizations like Militares Sans Frontieres (probably misspelt that one), aided in forming Diamond Dogs, and created Outer Heaven (which is supposedly a warrior's paradise). The alt look just makes Snake look more like Big Boss. 5th fight - Ike and Byleth: considering Ike is a member, and would later become tge leader of Greil's Mercenaries, this one is obvious. Byleth is also a member of Jeralt's Mercenaries, before becoming a professor of the Officer's Academy at Garreg Mach Monestary. Funny how these two are in their respective dad's mercenary group. 6th fight (rivals) - Team Star Fox: while Fox and Falco are mercenaries, they're more noble in what jobs they do. Whereas it doesn't matter what job Wolf gets, so long as it pays him. This represents the clashing ideologies of these mercenaries. Though, I'm not sure what would fit as the final battle for this theme, I just wanted to my general ideas on how something like this would go.

“We’re gonna make blyth a teacher so -“ I think I like this guy already. His simple

I think your Byleth idea is a step in the right direction, but instead of just “fighters who look like they could be in school”, they should be fighters who can reference the students in Three Houses. Like a yellow Donkey Kong to represent Raphael, pink Villager or even Corrin could represent Hilda, green Robin could represent Lindhardt, stuff like that.

Alright I had an idea for Kirby but it’s quite long and has a lot of explaining so here goes The name of this route is “Super star brawl” and each of the battles represents one of the main sub-games from Kirby super star. I felt it fitting given how much smash references superstar and how important of a game it is in general to the Kirby series. -Starting with dedede in boxing ring representing spring breeze as he’s the final battle in it (his theme will obviously be playing) -Next round is the gourmet race battle but since I already used dedede before it, the battle references his old classic mode route by having Kirby fight 2 other big eaters that may compete in a gourmet race (Yoshi and wario respectively). Only food items will spawn and you’ll start out the battle a little damaged like in the old classic mode. Stage is dreamland 64 with gourmet race 64 playing -Next you fight a giant red falco to reference dybablade, with falco being the dynablade stand in. The fight is on gerudo valley (or any other mountain like place) with the Kirby boss medley playing -After that is the great cave battle in a free for all where you fight opponents that represent each of the great cave bosses (blue K Rool for fatty whale, rob for CV, green greninja for chamelleo arm and dk for wham bam). Don’t worry, the fight is on battle field great cave with obviously the great cave song playing -Next is revenge of meta knight. I don’t think I need to explain what the battle is here. Only other thing of note is that sword items will spawn and it’s on halberd with the appropriate song -Lastly, the round before the boss references the arena mode. More specifically you fight a hoard(?) of fighters in order, each spawning in once you defeat the previous one like in Terry’s classic mode referencing how they appear in their respective battle in the arena mode. The fighters are stand ins for the midbosses from super star (or atleast only the ones who have a spirit battle). The order being blue Yink for poppy bros Sr-> iceys for Mr.Frosty-> Pac-Man for chef Kawasaki-> Ridley for Bugzzy-> and Purple DK for bonkers. You will be paired up with a blue ryu as a knuckle Joe stand in referencing the helpers you can spawn in. The battle is on the colosseum stage since it looks like the stage you fight the midbosses in during the arena and the song is a battle of friends and bonds -And with this new classic mode theme, Marx as the boss is now an even more perfect fit, as he’s the boss of the final important sub game Milky Way wishes and of superstar as a whole, doesn’t get more perfect than this

Dark Samus' Classic Route Should be: Dark vs Light Round 1: Dark Samus vs Sora Round 2: Dark Samus vs Link Round 3: Dark Samus vs Young Link Round 4: Dark Samus vs Zelda Round 5: Dark Samus vs Palutena Round 6: Dark Samus vs Rosalina and Luna Bonus Game Final Round: Dark Samus and Ridley vs Master Hand and Crazy Hand

While Sonic’s is… Fine. I’d like to reference Sonic the Fighter’s arcade mode since it serves as the inspiration for his moveset. Round 1: Versus Little Mac (Knuckles mii) and Fox (Tails mii) on Omega Green Hill Zone Round 2: Versus Incineroar on omega Summit Round 3: Versus Greninja on omega Garden of Hope Round 4: Versus Diddy Kong on omega Fourside Round 5: Versus Toon Link on Wrecking Crew Round 6: Versus Sonic on Omega Halberd Boss: Galleom

I have a concept for little Mac, i call "never run away of a fight, Mac" this phrase may not reference anything in punch out but for me it seems something that doc Louis would say to Mac. Anyway, the main theme of this route is to fight the slowest characters in the game, that's what the title means. All fights except the last one would be on the boxing ring stage, so i won't mention it every time. Fight 1: incineroar Fight 2: robin Fight 3: Jigglypuff Fight 4: ganondorf Fight 5: Mii Gunner Fight 6: villager (or Pyra if you are able to not make her switch) Boss: giga bowser

I feel like you could've used Ganondorf's last alt to represent his Twilight Princess appearance, but other than that, these Classic Mode routes are pretty good.

Aaronitmar: Everyone who wears glasses likes school, right? Me who wears glasses irl: *walks up to his window and opens it* NO!!!!! *close it back and walk away*

This is full of great ideas!! But the Subspace fight against Pit and Mario should 100% be on Skyworld considering their level in Brawl was literally Skyworld.

Joker's being "Shadows" is fitting enough and it has at least one really cool reference in it, but this concept is done by other characters and I think there's a more unique idea available. In Persona 5, each of the game's eight dungeons is based on one of the seven deadly sins, including the no-longer-used sin of Vanity. Basing the fights off of these sins, in the order they show up in Persona 5, I think would fit really well. Some spoilers for Persona 5 ahead: Stage 1: Snake in Dracula's Castle to represent lust, in reference to various easter eggs in the Metal Gear series as well as his Samus codec in Brawl. Dracula's Castle represents Kamoshida's Castle from Persona 5, the dungeon representing lust. Snake uses his Big Boss alt, as Metal Gear Solid 3 involves Big Boss staring at Eva a lot. Wake Up Get Up Get Out There plays during this battle. Stage 2: A two-part battle in which one fighter appears after the first is defeated against Bayonetta and King Dedede on Hazardless WarioWare to represent vanity and gluttony. This should be self-explanatory, as Bayonetta shows vanity in just about every pose she makes, and Dedede is so gluttonous he stole all the food in Dreamland. The stage represents the bosses of both the Museum of Vanity and the Bank of Gluttony, as the former boss is a collection of paintings (represented by how the stage's background appears to be drawn on) and the latter boss involves a giant pig robot (represented by the pig drawing). Bayonetta uses her Gold color, as Shadow Madarame's robes are also gold. Dedede uses his black-and-white skin, as it is the closest to making him look like a fly- Which Shadow Kaneshiro transforms into. Last Surprise plays during this battle. Stage 3: Ganondorf on Mushroomy Kingdom to represent Wrath. Ganondorf is motivated primarily by his Wrath, as he has a desire not only to have power but to display it (which usually involves a near-apocalyptic world). He's motivated by anger towards the King of Hyrule, forcing the Gerudo to live in the desert. The stage represents the Pyramid of Wrath from Persona 5, as both are desert-themed (with an emphasis more on an Egyptian style, as opposed to the more Arabic style you see in Gerudo Valley). Ganondorf uses his blue skin, as it represents his more bestial form. I'll Face Myself plays during this battle. Stage 4: Wario on Lylat Cruise to represent Greed. Wario is obviously the most greedy character on the roster, and is also similar to the actual boss representing Greed, Okumura. Both Wario and Okumura are rich CEO's. The stage represents the space station dungeon where Okumura is fought. Wario uses his default WarioWare skin, as it best represents him as a CEO. Mass Destruction plays during this battle. Stage 5: Luigi on New Pork City to represent Envy. Luigi himself is often portrayed as being in the shadow of his brother, making him a perfect candidate for Envy. New Pork City is there to represent the Casino of Envy, as both are big, flashy, artificial, locations. Items are on high for this match to represent the random nature of a casino. Luigi uses his Red skin, as it best encapsulates the idea that he's jealous of Mario. Wake Up Get Up Get Out There plays during this battle, though really it should be Life Will Change. Stage 6: A three-part battle on Mementos in a fight representing Pride. The first fight is against a Metal Incineroar, representing the golden lion that Shadow Shido rides on. Incineroar, being a pro wrestler that taunts after every move, also represents pride. After defeating him, Kazuya spawns in his black suit alt. Kazuya himself represents pride due to his status as a martial artist and his desire to overtake his father, being a bit of a narcissist that won't accept anything but being on the top. He also acts as a stand-in for Shadow Shido, as both are extremely buff. Once you beat Kazuya in his suit, another Kazuya spawns. This one uses the default colors and is Giant, implying that Kazuya ripped his suit off to reveal just how big his muscles are in the same way that Shadow Shido does. This one takes place on Mementos simply to be a climactic fight, as this is one of Joker's most important battles. Rivers in the Desert plays during this battle. Stage 7: For the boss, Joker fights Galeem. This might not be possible, but Galeem perfectly represents Persona 5's final boss Yaldabaoth: A law-aligned god that wishes to bring the world to ruin. When Galeem is low on health, Mii Fighter AI partners spawn to help Joker. These Mii Fighters represent ordinary people- The citizens of Japan who overcome their slothfulness to support Joker. Each starts with 100% damage (representing the 100% support meter at the end of P5 in addition to balancing them). While their AI is at a low level and they die quickly, a new one spawns whenever one dies. Our Beginning plays during this fight.