This is scary last night I checked your channel for a PvP build and there wasn’t one but you’ve uploaded one this morning 🤣 love it keep it up man

@SeanoHere

2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate

Great guide Seano, been having a blast with the fire build in BGs

Damn great video, was doing research on mage PVP builds and this is exactly what I needed. I like you included a couple of builds and most importantly talk through what their core rotation is about. Also, what song is playing at the beginning of the video? Want to add it to my playlist :)

Thank you for the guide big man. Always great content and straight to the point.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Thank you mate, I really appreciate you! and thanks for always coming to the streams too you're the best :)

great!, I've seen a frostbolt mage with Icelance, you recommend it? also do you recommend freezing bands for rings?

What addon or weakaura is showing the Horde symbol when you kill someone? I love it!

Excellent video! Thank you

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Thanks

Gigachad video I would replace the living bomb with ice lance, it way more fun to play with. Do you know if frostfireball benefits from the redcuing cast time of frostball talent point?

hm, wouldnt be frostbuild better with Icelance to shatter? And in the healbuild you use Spellfrostbolt, but you had another rune in in ur guide. Just saying

Yes Seano great guide

Hi! What EPs you uses on this site? Do you use it?

Dude how are you pulling those spellfrost crits on your healing spec? Im at about half that.

How does the first build perform now with the nerf?

theres some forbidden knowledge you can do with 1 point into imp blizzard and using rank 1 frost bolt with brain freeze feet rune too, but 50% crit dmg is always insane so is the heal

HELL YEAH SEANO!

Nice guide! I tried the frost healer build since the damage nerf patch, it's basically unkillable. Played 3 WSGs so far, 0 deaths across the three games, won all three. I put 3 points into imp blizzard though, I just use rank1 as a nice aoe slow.

@alexisbusson

Ай бұрын

are you using as offensice spells arcane blast/arcane missile? frostbolt? or spellfrost bolt?

@_Foobar

Ай бұрын

@@alexisbusson I was using blast/missile, spellfrost could be good also. Mostly I was just healing though, very little temporal beacon, mostly chrono healing

great video, thank you

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching mate

I dont understand how do you survive at all without having frost barrier and ice block?

Id like to see a pyro + iceblock build here, also dont u think the balance between dmg and stamina is worth to use 3 pieces of raid tier set? It also provides stamina and the dmg is huge compared to r7 gear

@SeanoHere

2 ай бұрын

I do have the 3set personally but the gear gives an idea of what you should have to maximise stamina but you can swap & change stats to whatever suits you best

I am doing 34/7 - true fire w/ 4 into frostbolt for fast r1 slow - and the 2 into nova for deep freeze

@Whydyoudothis

2 ай бұрын

boots have 1% hit so you only need 1 hit talent pt

Whats better for pvp gear wise? The full r7 pvp set, or breaking the set for the other pieces?

@ghostAgent99

Ай бұрын

I had the same question at first. Full set feels better to me

what addonn for damage numbers on tooltips (actionbars), i know drdamage used to do this but havent found a working version last i checked.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Stat weights classic - www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/stat-weights-classic

@TrickshottinBills

Ай бұрын

@@SeanoHere thanks chief

What do you think of two Freezing Bands as part of the deep frost build??

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

500g on my server idk about you? 😀

@gbell9119

Ай бұрын

I dont think it is worth it. the amount of stamina on rings you cannot find on other pieces of gear. there are a lot easier places to pick up pure spell damage. like the cloak/offhand/wep, trinkets, neck all can give you similar or better spellpower gain for less stamina loss than swapping the STV ring or EW epic for a freezing band.

for heal mage frost talents, you will have icy veins 2 times if you swap out of mass regen, i would keep the normal regen

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Yeah you can def do that!

seconding the comments about displacement - it's amazing, I even *almost* beat a shaman in 1v1 by using it! :P

Shaman eat me up, any tips!?

Hear me out ok. Been testing out rank 1 blizzard to proc the rune on chest for 15% chance at free frostfire bolt. It procs a lot on groups during STV that you might be cancelling upon casting the blizzard. Not mama efficient but you can rank 1 blizzard have the instant stored do some come of cold ice lance fire blast then bang surprise instant frostfire bolt 😅 cheesy but fun if they don’t find you

@LewReviews

2 ай бұрын

I played this build it's funny but it's rng

@mikemcnair2026

Ай бұрын

Rank 1 blizzard when used correctly is a crusher. That’s why blizz nerfed it. It is incredibly wonky now about applying the chill debuff. Test it on the ramp to lumber mill, players will mostly ride right through it.

@LewReviews

Ай бұрын

@@mikemcnair2026 yeah I noticed you need to max rank for it to work thanks for clarifying it I wasn't sure

@mikemcnair2026

Ай бұрын

@@LewReviews I assume your 50 now, when your leveling again I would recommend running arcane surge and take advantage of using it for killing blow on mobs and drinking immediately after. 3 tics and your at 65 percent mana. Made my grind much easier.

@sasukeuchihaadultversion7387

Ай бұрын

@@mikemcnair2026 mate... idk but... r1 blizzard with slow is nothing compared to trap launcher hunter trap... NOTHING. the area effect of blizzard doesnt always apply correct for my eyes and u are vulverable casting it for ever... hunter just puts it there and its GG...

Hello where is the ST nightmare staff with 30 stamina??????

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Yeah get it mate

i'm sorry but for deep frost you defffff need 5points into improved frostbolt for r1 fb slow

@seanyewest

2 ай бұрын

Also with 3% hit from gear (trinket / PVP set / a few belt options) you don't need any in elemental precision. Much rather have 5 points in there than frost warding for a marginal amount more armor. Build claps most phys damage dealers as is, and 1s frost bolts >>> slightly more armor in the matchups anyway

@SeanoHere

2 ай бұрын

R1 frostbolt is great for control but the idea of this build was fighting at 41 yard range, you could easily spec into that though

@seanyewest

2 ай бұрын

@@SeanoHere not at all trying to say the build is bad my man, in fact I made it my dual spec already 👍 just prefer the faster R1 fb for sticky situations to the bit of extra armor that we (hopefully) won't need or the hit that I don't need bc of gear

@seanyewest

2 ай бұрын

I didn't think my opponents will be as happy with the idea of fighting at 41 yard range

@Rebbyrag

2 ай бұрын

@@SeanoHereit also fishes for FoF procs, I was doing basically the same as build 1 but with burnout

POG

Why is the extra crit dmg on boots better than Brain freeze?

@lighthouseministries7

Ай бұрын

It's guaranteed as opposed to a chance. Also I prefer the heal myself.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Big crit damage rather than random proc, all are viable though but if you want the juicy 2k+ crits the spell power is essential

What about 0/20/21 shatter deep freeze hot streak pyro, sorch spam

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Big frozen pyro crits, I like your thinking ;) would be glass cannon though!

How much Hit does Mages need for PVP in Phase 3?

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

3% so you’re fine to move things around if you want things like faster frostbolt for r1 frostbolts

for the healing build you're running spellfrost in the video, but running missiles on the guide but man, I dunno about spellpower instead chrono even for the dps builds, it's been rough pvping without it for me personally.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the clips in the video i was testing it out but tbh Missles is better with R1 frost bolts. Yeah you can also run Chrono depending on the situation. Tbh with those builds the idea is you stay at 41 yard range at the back and smash damage, to do the juicy 2k+ crits we need spell power but take chrono if you want mate thats fine

level 50 mage is such fun pvp. feels like there are so many viable builds.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Defo

For build 1, find a talent to throw into improved blizzard. Easiest way to trigger fingers of frost in pvp with rank 1 bliz into 2 massive frostfire crits. Rinse and repeat

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

True that’s huge, thanks!

Nightmare Focus Staff has entered the chat

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

100%

I cant stand how shit frost nova and deep freeze feels, when frost nova has its own gcd.

@mikemcnair2026

Ай бұрын

It’ll feel better when you realize the new shatter combo is now two fold=nova:hardcast:deep freeze:hardcast:instant.

Um…… isnt frost/ fire build the best out of all??? its crazy good

@ryandodds1018

2 ай бұрын

Def the best 1v1 build. Arcane aoe for stv and id say fire is better for battleground aoe

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Yeah they all have their pro's and con's. If you're on the fence I'd try out the frost build though. Also thank you for your support, I'm aware you're one of my top viewers so I really appreciate you!!

@terrodar19

Ай бұрын

@@SeanoHere u got good content! Im a sucker for arcane, so i might go arcane because of improved cs which is brutal vs other casters

I want displacement so bad, I can never find anyone to help

fire is just a joke in p3, the pyro deals 800 crit while the frostfire bolt deals 2k damages...

frostfire bolt spec in pvp is ass if you wanna make a difference. still liking arcane missles spec. waaaay better.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s ass, they’re two different play styles but FFB is incredibly strong if played right

@no0bbbb

Ай бұрын

@@SeanoHere I changed my mind, ffb just takes so long to cast...bomb is good damage but damn I miss ice lance lol

Fingers of frost doesn't rly do anything as it only procs when frostbite procs aswell. It's bugged.

@martin32074

Ай бұрын

Fingers of frost and frostbite proc off each other. Not just frostbite proc.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

I was getting procs and helped to do huge FFB’s from 41 yards but I do feel like I don’t get many procs 😄

@TryToBe

Ай бұрын

Yeah but you only have 15% for either both to proc at once or none. Which is a bit annoying if you ask me :)

this new 50% damage nerf is asssss

Frost dunks on people 1v1, only hunters are problem.

I dont enjoy any mage spec at all. healer is kinda only spam 1 button. fire is like spam living bomb and wait for procc. frost is like hardcast 3 second for... nothing. as fire you go oom before you die, as frost you die before you go oom. as Frost I have 13% crit hardcast for 800 FFB while hunter pets do me 900 crits. 1on1 vs owl? I CS starfire, he brrrs me down with wrath spam. any other specs just dot me to death... idk... all this hardcasts suck so bad... i duel a warlock? he is meta. dot me. death coil me. GG counter to that? every 5min.

0:35 say that u dont have an understanding of mage pvp without saying that u dont have an understanding of mage pvp. overcapping on spellhit in pvp, no reduced fb casttime for r1 fb, no 5/5ignite for maximum ffb dmg….

@SeanoHere

2 ай бұрын

3% hit is cap, as I said it’s an experimental build, we’re not going for r1 fb because the range is too short. At least watch the video before commenting rubbish. Thanks

Just dont be alliance as a mage, not fun not being able to slow down 90% off the alliance team due to them being shams :P

@martin32074

Ай бұрын

same thing for pally's freedom.

@SeanoHere

Ай бұрын

Yeah but paladins are also awful to fight 😅

not good specs shown here, there are better