a lab page with an interactive graph where users can chose which devices are compared would be really really nice!

@shahrul5110

Жыл бұрын

should follow crinacle if you love the nerds stuff about headphone or earphones

@quimerinha

Жыл бұрын

at this point it's really hard to compete with crinacle's database

@PaveMentman

Жыл бұрын

--- That has been already planned to happen: It was mentioned in one the "WAN-Show"-sessions that they'd need to first get the automation done for the report creation and publishling. ---

I like seeing more graphs to show the capabilities of these earbuds. I'm already seeing LTT labs taking shape!

Glad to see the graphs from labs. Wondering if there can be testing at lower than 74 db. Maybe that will come by once their good Test chamber is setup (To help with signal to noise ratio with lower volumes)

That noise cancellation comparison histogram is awesome. I want to see a bunch of headphones compared. It would also be smart to compare the areas under each curve and then you could give relative performance percentages

@Khaled-bs7zc

Жыл бұрын

I wanna see the WF-xm4

@RKBock

Жыл бұрын

not a histogram...

@IzzatZaki

Жыл бұрын

not a histogram...

@halomika4973

Жыл бұрын

@@IzzatZaki Then correct them, people.

@Lodinn

Жыл бұрын

At least the difference between two curves would be easier to interpret when comparing.

Awesome to see the noise cancellation data from the labs! One suggestion no review site has yet tested to my knowledge: Test the noise isolation for single sharp or blunt noises (doors slamming, cutlery clinking, etc.). I have noticed big differences in my (many) ANC products there. Cheers!

@AtrisMakesMusic

Жыл бұрын

Some i had tended to overcompensate which sounds like a heavy bass. Bunch of cutlery hitting a drawer insert is a great test - at least a great test at home^^

Would have liked to see some more ANC comparisons like to the Pixel Buds Pro or the Sony XM4 earbuds

@kodylagreca

Жыл бұрын

The Bose QC2s have superior noise cancellation compared to the WF-1000XM4s in my opinion.

@johnjoe769

Жыл бұрын

@@kodylagreca agreed!

Love that you guys finally explained what all these new graphes mean! All the ones from the last time were just "nice lines" without much explanation what they actually mean.

I'm really looking forward to more of these types of reviews in the future. This is so in depth, and I love it.

I love seeing objective data on things that most times are up to a reviewers preferences. These graphs are super helpful and well made. The explanation along with them was perfect as well. Good job labs!

I love all these graphs on SC. I believe this is the first video where we directly see the contribution of Labs and it's A-MA-ZING. Keep it up guys!

The graphs and explanations are much appreciated you guys 🙏. Great work!

Awesome review and a fantastic explanation of the tests and graphs! Well done team!

Liked the showcase, LOVED the Labs lesson from James! Very interesting!

I love the labs graphs and your explanation of them was pretty good too 👍

The graph explanations were great! I’m guessing this was a product of the lab, which has me really excited!!

I LOVE this video! is there a video that compares more models together at once with the ANC graphs? those are awesome, always in search of the best anc to block out voices and crying babies on flights

I think that the options to "relax" and "focus" are just there to show the users that they can make custom profiles. Given the pencil icon I think thats where they want to steer you

super dope to see the lab data starting to do its thing! one aspect im particularly interested in is comparing sections of the noise cancellation graphs for different headphones/iems as it translates to the perceived volume of different sounds - i.e headphone A measurably has better cancellation in the low end than headphone B, making it better for travel and eliminating the sound of bus/plane engines, but headphone B is greater for the mids and makes the chatter of a crowd more muted, so it'd be the better buy for people who study in cafes or things like that. there was a hint of it here, and i think if given more attention in future videos it would be really useful for people to know what anc gear is better for their use case

James trying to explain a lot of this, and make it sensible to us laymen, was taking every muscle in his body + pure skill, and I appreciate him putting in the work! 😂 ❤

Wonderful explanation of the graphs by James. I finally understood some things i didnt quiet grasp before

Like all other earbuds, the Airpods wouldn't stay in my ear and they really hurt. Bose was a clear winner just for being able to even stay put. They also happen to be comfy, although a little less than the last generation, and they have amazing sound quality. I am so happy with the smaller case and noise cancellation. I tested the sound blockage out today while at a completely holiday packed grocery store and it was like I was the only person there with Pandora playing. Without music, it was like being in a crowd with a few people whispering.

Very nice job describing the graphs! Totally understood how they were explained.

These are an improvement over the 1st gen buds. kzread.infoUgkxK5mc3yw4xA7Mf2j6k6n1Uqv_KUgrKdeM Pros: The fit is fantastic. This is the biggest plus. They stay in my ears when running and become unnoticeable. They are tight but comfortable. The sound quality is about the same as the 1st gen buds. They pair more easily with my LG G8 ThinQ and immediately reconnect when removed from the case. The sound balance is excellent, good but not overpowering base and clean mid tones and highs.Cons: The noise cancellation is good but perhaps a little less effective than the Bose ANC on the 1st gen buds. Passthrough mode as not as good as the 1st gen buds making it a little more difficult to hear conversations when in passthrough.

Nice to see labs info at last.

The lab stuff is awesome! Good job explaining it James.

I know this is a couple months late to the show but honestly James killed it on this video. His explanations and breakdowns were bang on for this one.

This is very interesting James. Good to see the labs at work.

Just got these coming for 1st gen AirPods and they’re amazing. I have also tried the first gen air pod pros and these blow them out of the water

Nice to see labs' work in the show. Can we get some recordings of audio on these? I have reference headphones but very few people post sound quality samples from different headphones or earbuds especially.

So are we gonna get that database for all the earbuds headphones LTT Labs tested with that model head?

I for one am fine with the channel being more so of a review/unboxing one specifically moving forward. LTT is great in its own right, but I think ShortCircuit being those two would help keep focus and give the LTT audience more options as to what kind of content they'd rather subscribe to (or just both, of course). Either way, I'm enjoying both!

It's certainly no short circuit anymore but it was very interesting & I'd like more videos like this. No fanboy bashing of X vs Y. Just some facts, easy to follow explanations and two great products. Well done! Thank you!

I really like the graphs keep doing it super informative.

Wow labs is definitely a huge resource for consumers nice job ltt team!

Sony wf 1000mx with Final Audio Type E eartips are amazing if anyone is looking for a great alternative. ANC to Ambient mode is all you need of ambient mode is good enough imo. I toggled between the three on my Sony's and ended up just removing the off mode in the settings.

@corey7219

Жыл бұрын

So these are silicone eartips? I'm fed up with all my foam eartips falling apart on me

@iicalcipheriim

Жыл бұрын

Why are those tips better than the stock ones?

@freakazoid9889

Жыл бұрын

@@iicalcipheriim the battery life is great on the wf1000 mx4 and I found for my ears that the foam would fatigue my ears. The tips I recommended, for many ears will likely be less fatiguing. Also I was unable to notice a loss in audio quality or seal. It's possible the foam tips would be fine in your ears, but for me I had to find something else. The one I mentioned are comfortable and comes in a kit with a lot of sizes so you out can find a great fit.

@freakazoid9889

Жыл бұрын

@@corey7219 yeah silicon for me is far more comfortable for extended listening periods.

Love the graphs! Keep up the great work!

I had the Sportbuds up until recently, and they were really good, minus a few things I didn't like. But glad to see these rate so well.

Great overview. I bought the AAP2 and don't have an iPhone. Works well for what I want. The Bose I heard were a little noisy in the passthru but..... My wife may take these AP and I may just get the Bose if I'm looking to burn 300 bucks.. hmm...

Labs is doing a great job. I love the graphs.

I don't usually comment on videos but this was so awesome with all the additional info that I had to say thank you.

Surprised that you didn't mention the lack of wireless charging and multipoint pairing, which is a big deal on $300 earbuds. I like the Labs graphs for some objectivity in the review, but I like when you spend more time talking about features and your impressions (comfort, usability of touch controls, ...)

@sogron007

Жыл бұрын

I don't care about that; I have them. My three biggest area of concerns are: one sound quality, secure fit, during workouts, and noise cancellation, because I use them in a noisy gym environment. Bose covers everything hands down. Hands down the best for me.

@azuremain

Жыл бұрын

I don't dish out 599 bucks for wireless charging that can be had on cheapo walmart earphones. It's the ANC that people pay for and in that category the Bose QC Earbuds 2 are the new King for both human voice and plane cabin noise cancellation. ShortCircuit got it wrong with their frequency interpretations. Now, multipoint is indeed a feature it should have, but it's still not a deal breaker. The ANC, Comfort and well-rounded sound stage are just too good.

@costasge4

Жыл бұрын

Multipoint is handy jumping from mobile to tablet to laptop. Qc earbuds v. 1 have the Multipoint, switching from the single button on the case and it is really handy. Also the ability of each bud to work independently would be nice.

@niko1even

Жыл бұрын

wireless charging sadly probably won't be available anytime soon, but multipoint will likely be added with a later firmware update.

@harsimranbhatti

Жыл бұрын

I've heard rumors that multipoint is to be added in a new update, as is lossless audio capabilities

Idk man, I got my pixel buds pro and I've been very happy with them. Great sound, easy to use, consistent, good battery life, good case, and good noise cancelling.

You can adjust the AirPod pros in the sound and haptics under headphone safety. You can max it out at 100db if ya want👍🏼

The noise canceling doesn't update while sound is playing. For example, while listening to an audiobook through Audible, the noise cancellation will only adjust while paused.

nice to see labs is finally setup and provide graphs for objective review

Great. Now I've got Mojo Pin playing in my head. Gonna have to play the album now. Thanks, man! ;)

I'd love to see those graphs for QC 35s and sony's noise canceling headphones

you guys finally started measuring! Nice

I work construction and can confirm that the 5k point in the noose cancellation mode does cut thru some what. It’s a high pitched noise but it’s dulled down so it’s not harmful.

I have these. I had issues using them with my Pixel 4a. During a work meeting on Meet, it'd work fine, but if my phone received a call during the work meeting, the earbuds would get kicked off as an audio device and after I finished rejecting the call, the work meeting audio would come out the phone speaker instead of the Bluetooth like when I started the meeting.

@ahmadaamer6

Жыл бұрын

That's no good. Hopefully that's fixed in a software update. Sucks when the buds are expensive.

@4203105

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like a problem with the phone.

@WillyJunior

Жыл бұрын

That's an issue with the phone. Probably something Google "doesn't want" to fix because it's an older phone.

@Masterrunescapeer

Жыл бұрын

That's a phone / BT handoff issue, since if call comes in the phone will treat the buds as a call device.

the labs results are really nice, though having someone do the linus test of comfort by lying down and seeing if you could sleep with them in would be really helpful too I think

You forgot the Sony WF-1000XM4! Seriously, how could you forget the best noise cancelling buds around.

The only in-ear buds that would remain in my ear were Bose QC 1st Gen. I had AirPods and then AirPods Pro, but they wouldn’t stay in my ear so I had to change to something else.

great to see the various spectrum graphs

Love the data, but is there any way to make the graphs more readable? And I agree that they make a video more than just unboxing, but it also makes the video more valuable.

Those graphs are incredible. Really neat to see the fruit from Labs

Really hope to see some graphs of the Sony mx4 I've been looking at buying them for a while and it'd be great to see some hard facts on how they perform compared to others like these bose ones

I got the Bose GC eaarbuds. Love them! Might look into these when its time to upgrade :)

Is there any way to test the pass through.. I wear a set of buds at work instead of earplugs for noise suppression, but the pass through is useless so I need to remove them to talk to anybody.

For in ear devices it has always been about the fit. At this time I have found something that works for me. Even with using other Bose devices when I would in a professional sound recording studio out of college, I would not roll the dice and purchase these now. Apple EarPods, and AirPods have never stayed in my ears without a third party device (earhook). This is why I moved to the Ultimate Ears Fit. If I did not own these I might now purchase the Ultimate Ears Drops for even better fit. Thing is down the road might give the Apple AirPods 2, or maybe the Bose a try.

Thank You, Your video is both informative and entertaining.

James did a really soothing presentation pleasant to hear

Ooo I love the noise canceling graph. Please make a few Techquickie episodes so that these explanations are easier to find and share with people

I like the rubber band which isn’t on the airpods, if you find it hard for the airpods to stay in your ears then the rubber bands may help with that because they hold on to the exterior part of the ear and you can adjust the size

Cool video, these plots were excellent.

I am admittedly a big bose fan, always have been, and their headphones/earphones have never disappointed me. Not only that, but their customer service has always been nothing short of phenomenal. I currently have the 700's and they're exceptional in sound quality and the noise cancelation is among, if not the best I've ever used.

I have the QC Gen 1 and the shark fin ear tips are amazingly secure. I can run while wearing them without any fear of them falling out. The complete opposite of the Sony XM4, B&W Pi7 and AirPods. The QC Gen 1 also sound better than AirPods Pro Gen 1. I hate that Bose chose this new design to make them have a slimmer profile to match Apple.

I’ve had problem with my unit. When running I felt a pop in my ears, kind of similar to pushing and releasing them while they are in ears. That is not that annoying as similar thing while driving in public transport on uneven road, the same happens but way more often, which becomes painful. I had to give them back to service, so they can check if this is my unit problem, but I think it’s software. It’s trying to cancel all of the vibrations from uneven road which it can’t do. Although when you’re not moving sound quality is great and anc too. Case is annoyingly big tho, switching from Apple. And there is a problem of switching source and connection on iPhone. Had somebody have this problem?

I love this but I wish there was an audio test for the microphones, for phone calls.

Do these still have the same master/slave functionality where there is only one piece with mic and the other one can’t be used with a call if the other one runs out of battery?

As someone who loves looking at audio curves for fun, I am beyond happy with all the data! Please please do this for every audio review.

@girlsdrinkfeck

Жыл бұрын

i dont get the point of a EQ app for earphones when every phone has a EQ anyway

@ntm_aka_badluck

Жыл бұрын

@@girlsdrinkfeck the bose buds save the EQ settings on the buds, when done with the App - so when you connect them to anything, that does not have an EQ (Nintendo Switch, your TV, etc.) the buds still sound like configured in the app.

@girlsdrinkfeck

Жыл бұрын

@@ntm_aka_badluck cool but... No one ever changes eq settings for a kids console lmao

@AlLiberali

Жыл бұрын

@@girlsdrinkfeck True but you can also let others have the option and don't use it yourself

@eclipsemantis

Жыл бұрын

@@girlsdrinkfeck Pixels don't have an eq, and windows 10 doesn't either.

You actually can change the transparency mode to normal or to adaptive transparency in your settings of your Airpods Pro.

What kind of noise do you use for the ANC graph? Because as I understand these don’t cancel the noise in real time, they have to predict what the noise will be like in the next few milliseconds, and getting that right is both difficult and affects the real world performance a lot.

Please also start mentioning the used protocols for Bluetooth. Especially AptX Adaptive would be interesting for Low Latency.

i love the new curves and sheets!

i use air pod pros on my android device and honestly im not missing out on much from when i had an iphone, i can still access noise cancelling and transparent mode which is all i care about.

@parkerfilm2114

Жыл бұрын

What app do you use on android to enable/change these features?

I'm pretty sure the noise cancelling modes are not doing anything different from each other, they're just presets of how much ANC to apply based on the slider. So Relax by default might be in the middle of the ANC scale and you can edit to let's say make it the lowest level of ANC, but then it's not really relax mode anymore, even though that's the name of the setting

I love these ear buds. Wore them on a flight

One of the most important things to know for me is. What about phone conversations? can they filter out the noise around me, so it only focuses on my voice? or will the person on the other end hear everything around me aswell ?

i love all that data, this is (finally) a serious headphone review. great work lmg!

You should test the NuraTrue Pro earbuds, first buds to have lossless audio over bluetooth, interested to see what you guys think

Is the noise cancellation BETTER than the older version which I have now?

What about the repairability of the Bose ear buds? Can one change the batteries without destroying them?

love the science and the concise explanations

One major thing I want to know is if I can use both earbuds independently. That way I can use my left earbud till it dies then switch to the right earbud. The previous model did not allow for that and was the reason why I bought the sony XM4 (which I love)

6:22 you can delete for example the "Relax" mode, the delete button can be seen at 5:05

I'd love for you guys to check out the One+ Buds Z2. I got some several months ago, and they seem to punch well above their $80 price tag (apparently only $50 for black friday when I just googled to double check I had the price right).

So like I heard you can’t have just one of them in ur ear to work like you need to use both at the same time is that still true?

very nicely done. thanks

I would to see a comparison between those and the Sony WR's

Bose QuietComfort Earbuds II I bought these would like to only use the left earphone because I'm left-handed and work only the proplem either they are off right away or they play a few songs when I close the socket. or can I only use it for two or just the right one alone?

Only considering ANC, are these the new best ANC earbuds available now or are Sony xm4 still the best? (For android so airpods pro excluded)

I really like the new format.

What about the mic's? I haven't seen any earbuds coming close to te AirPods performance in that area (unfortunately)

I am already in love with the lab.

Can you please review the Xiaomi buds 3 pro I think they are good for their price point and I would love to see a video about them

well written script! you guys naild it!

IS there going to be a video about galaxy buds 2 pro's?

I'd like to know how they compare to my Sony WF-1000XM4s...im not happy with the foam tips but the last gen bose were to huge for me...

I actually prefer the noise canceling to focus on the lows and highs rather than mids as it makes it is more likely to cancel the machinery, which is what my goal is 90% of the time. I also work on a dock with a lot of machinery though so that noise is all around me. I am also not sure how I feel about the inability to actually turn off the ANC.

@NiSE_Rafter

Жыл бұрын

Agreed it's nice to have the choice to have everything off for better battery life

@azuremain

Жыл бұрын

You won't be disappointed by the Bose QC Earbuds 2 in that department for cancelling out machinery noise. In the graph you can see that it's exactly these frequency ranges on the left and right side that the Bose are better than the Airpods, while the Airpods are only better in the mids which is neither human voice nor machinery noise.