There’s Nothing C.J. Can Do | The West Wing
“Imagine our shock.”
Season 3 Episode 8: The Indians in the Lobby
WATCH NOW: MAX
www.max.com/shows/west-wing/3...
Subscribe now:
/ @thewestwing
This is the official “THE WEST WING” channel! Stay up to date on President Jed Bartlet and his White House staff’s most inspiring, unforgettable moments.
#TheWestWing #VoteBartlet #Drama #JedBartlet #AaronSorkin #MartinSheen
Пікірлер: 114
I liked C.J a lot here because she wanted to help, but this problem was so big she could only tackle one bit at a time.
I’ll say it for the tenth time, if network TV wants to have some sort of relevance again, they would do whatever it takes to bring back this show with Sam either running for, or already in office as President, and have the rest of the cast appearing occasionally. It would be a ratings smash. Hell, I’d even watch TV again if it came back!
@joe2lank
15 күн бұрын
The problem is if they did that, the people would then demand political leaders who were actually competent. The media seems to thrive on incompetent leaders because those are the only leaders getting any recognition.
@FlameKoRn
15 күн бұрын
without sorkin writing it doesnt matter who is the actor
@Bum_Hip
15 күн бұрын
@@FlameKoRn wht can’t he be involved?
The word Stoicism comes to mind when I see this clip....and this is coming from a knucklehead who firmly believed MAD Magazine was Pulitzer Prize Reading Material! Cheers Everyone👋
@simonhadley8829
16 күн бұрын
Believed? My son, have you lost faith in our lord and savior, Alfred E. Neuman?
@TheStuport
15 күн бұрын
@@simonhadley8829 🤣🤣🤣
@DanStrayer
15 күн бұрын
Now that is the personification of “know thyself.” 👏
Native tribes fought against the theft of their land and destruction of their culture.
@marvinthemartian9584
16 күн бұрын
Against other tribes that tried to steal their land and destroy their culture. If you're going to tell this story, tell the whole story instead of just the parts you like.
@cameltanker1286
16 күн бұрын
And they lost. Get over it!
@stephenmason9527
16 күн бұрын
@@Kate-ui5kc native tribes committed atrocities and war crimes against settler civilians and waged war against the United States government and military personnel
@sabrewolf4129
15 күн бұрын
@@marvinthemartian9584 So it's OK to do so because others have done it in the past. Nice lack of reasoning there. You must be a female Demonrat.
@sagnikdebnath321
15 күн бұрын
@@cameltanker1286yea what if I steal your home and tell you to fuck off ?
the alternative is to let the corrupt government continue to screw tha native american indians so as many wise men and women have said - never give up the fight
Hello.
June 2023 Solem V Bartlett (no "relationship" to the character in The West Wing) THANKFULLY held up the Act. For Now. Another "drama show from the late 90's early 2000's including The Newsroom, vs reality"
@daveburns3886
14 күн бұрын
This show was so great, and CJ is tremendous..
Isn't this episode 7 and not 8?
@scotthunt2479
16 күн бұрын
Season 3 Episode 7
@zoefschildpad
15 күн бұрын
It's 8 on IMDB, but it depends on how you count. You can count Isaac and Ishmael as 1 or not, or you can count the two-parter Manchester as one episode. Either of those will make this one 7 instead.
Indians: "The government promised." Government: "And you believed us? Heh. We lie to our own people, why would you be any different."
How on Earth are they calling them "Indians"?
@stephenmason9527
16 күн бұрын
@@finnishline because they are American Indians. There are no people native to the Americas.
@finnishline
16 күн бұрын
@@stephenmason9527 Columbus thought he had landed in India. He had not.
@Raziel21
16 күн бұрын
@@finnishline Actually, that's a popular misnomer. In 1492 India was called "Hindustan". Columbus called them "Una gente Indios" because he was Italian and his Spanish was terrible. So "A people in God' became Indios which became Indians.
@forrestalvarez6156
16 күн бұрын
Many indigenous tribes to north America (idk about the south) refer to themselves as Indian. It is how their mother and grandmother said it. White Americans got embarrassed about it and started using other terms, it didn't come from them. Individual experiences and experiences of particular tribes will varry but that's my understanding.
@Dontlicktheballoons
16 күн бұрын
I'm Chippewa, and we call ourselves indians. There's much bigger problems to tackle.
I love all things about the West Wing, but the way the show handled this smacked of rank tokenism. It’s a huge issue, but was the B or C storyline in the Thanksgiving episode, with no reference or follow up in any other episode, as if to redeem the show. Was it written in as an afterthought?
I'm Maggie Morningstar Charles and this is Travel Counsel Jack LoneFeather. Enraging isn't it. The United States. I'm fine here Too, Data sharing. I am fine here. Jean Luc Picts Hard. "I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade Into my own parade Cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it" - Bob Dylan. Presidents Of Heritage Foundations..never mind. I was ready to go anywhere and even ready to fade into my own parade.. I was willing to stand anywhere and exhale but oh no. Cannot be done.
And now the same thing is happening in Gaza.
@stars9084
16 күн бұрын
It really isn't. Regardless of which side, you're dealing with a different issue
@DJ-fl4gn
16 күн бұрын
No... no it isn't. Even if you assume Israel wants any Gazan land, which it doesn't, the Jews were living in that region literally thousands of years before the Arabs (there's no such thing as a "Palestinian"; they're just Arabs).
@murrethmedia
16 күн бұрын
@@stars9084 And heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere come the Zionist apologists!
@DiasBenes
16 күн бұрын
Agreed, The west evicted Palestinians who have lived there for 2000 years and expect the Palestinians to except the injustices that they have to take. I don't care what Jews say about their previous claims. The Romans smashed the Jews in 3 separate wars when they rebelled and the last one Emperor Trajan evicted them from Judea to finally end their uprising. The Palestinians have lived there as long as the Jews have in the past. Remember the Egyptians were the ones that resettled the Jews to that area after the migration of the Sea People invasions in the Bronze Age. Whether you want to side with the Jews or the Palestinians. The Palestinians do have rights to Palestine and you can't simply evict them from their lands and ignore their right to live there.
@DJ-fl4gn
16 күн бұрын
@@DiasBenes Apparently it was fine for the Romans to evict the Jews, but not for the Jews to evict the Arabs? And no, they haven't been there for as long as the Jews have. Stop spreading bullshit.
Great Show... but this plot line was one of the dumbest of the series. At the end of the day history teaches us that Land ONLY belongs to the person that can hold it. The Indians didn't have the land stolen from them... it was conquered. Why? Because the Indians were 1000 years behind the Europeans in technology.
@biosaari
15 күн бұрын
No, the 1st nation peoples weren't, that's a lie. And it was taken bcz #smallpoxblankets.
@brandonrains5602
15 күн бұрын
@@biosaari Weren't what? technologically behind? They lacked sailing, guns, advance metallurgy, written languages, advanced agricultural techniques. Also, disease certainly played a role in defeating the Native tribes... but that was through the natural spread of illness and a lack of natural immunities. Your small pox blanket claim is an overblown myth. There is only ONE example of blankets being confirmed as used and that was in 1763 at the Battle of Fort Pitt. Despite what Native Americans want to claim now, for political purposes... they are still governed by the same rules that have governed ALL of humanity throughout time; If you want to hold the land, don't lose the war.
@patrickrowan6001
15 күн бұрын
Your country broke treaties with people groups it had pledged to protect. This might-makes-right unthinking nihilism is incompatible with the values your nation claims it was founded on. “History teaches us that land only belongs to the person that can hold it” sounds like something you’d see translated from Russian
Only in America can a bunch of people who have never known oppression, complain about how oppressed they are.
@goconnor0304
16 күн бұрын
I agree with your sentiment. BUT this kind of thing is everywhere, not just in America.
@Bariom_dome
16 күн бұрын
Yeah, but I don't see them...
@keithduvall812
16 күн бұрын
As a country as a whole you are correct. As America we are a melting pot of people and cultures. There are plenty of people and their ancestry that has been oppressed. Our founding ancestors oppressed by Great Britain, Jewish population, African population, Chinese, Indian ect.
Are they from one of the tribes that repeatedly attacked settlers, committed acts of terrorism, and declared war against the US government? And then lost that war? Because wow, does that part of history go untold.
@Tleilaxu0
16 күн бұрын
No. Although, considering what the US government had planned for them, I can't say I would have blamed them if they were.
@Bariom_dome
16 күн бұрын
It ain't told because school is for facts, not political fantasy for settlers😅
@jaycorbin
16 күн бұрын
How would you feel if you were kicked out of your house at gunpoint and herded to Oklahoma?
@stephenmason9527
16 күн бұрын
@@Tleilaxu0 so you sympathize with people who commit acts of terror and conduct warfare against the US trying to kill American citizens?
@stephenmason9527
16 күн бұрын
@@Bariom_dome are you trying to claim that American Indian tribes weren't violent toward settlers or US military personnel? Are you trying to claim that several major tribes didn't declare and conduct war against the United States? These tribes had more in common with the Confederacy than makes people like you comfortable to admit.
It's insane that these people think they're entitled to anything. Nothing bad happened to them, it was their great grand parents. Nobody is responsible for the sins of their ancestors.
@charliewion8925
16 күн бұрын
It’s not about bad things happening to them, it’s about their property being taken. It’s different if you’re talking about reparations for the descendants of enslaved people, but this is entirely and completely different.
@andyt2k
16 күн бұрын
We found the Trump supporter
@Khichuri_n_gosht
16 күн бұрын
Their culture is being wiped out. As noted, in two generations, this entire ethnic group of Native Americans will be wiped out. Generations of people who were entitled to healthcare, education and sovereignty were cheated out of the agreements made between them and the country for which many of their men fought to liberate. Grandfather to father, father to son, these people have been bullied out of their homes, languages and freedoms. How, on God’s green earth, does that not hurt living children of this ethnic group?
@Mik3Easter
16 күн бұрын
"These people" are the original Americans that the US has not stopped fucking over since our country was created. Bad things are still actively happening to them because of the sins of your ancestors. We should do anything to help them.
@franciscoojeda8986
16 күн бұрын
It is insane to believe that people cannot feel at least an apology is warranted when something happened to their ancestors. Believing that others cannot have their or their ancestor's grievances heard is actual entitlement. And yes, people are responsible for their ancestors when they are transgressed and responsible for when their ancestors cause a sin. That is called "family honor", which few people have no problem dismissing to remove themselves from responsibility because they are cowards. Those who dismiss sins committed upon others, whether theirs or by their family, are practicing entitlement.