Therapist Reacts to BEAUTY & THE BEAST (Animated)

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Tale as old as time... girl becomes prisoner of terrifying beast, makes friends with his dishes and furniture, wears fancy ball gowns, falls in love...
But is it Stockholm syndrome? Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright talk about what Stockholm syndrome is (and isn't) and whether Beauty and the Beast is an example of it. They also talk about Gaston's narcissism, Beast's redemption arc, and Belle's compassion. They also talk about the difference between love and possession, and the beautiful animation, art, music, and storytelling in this film.
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright & Alan Seawright
Edited by: Luke Mclean
Director of Photography: Bradley Olsen
English Transcription by: Anna Preis

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  • @Agfond1234
    @Agfond12342 жыл бұрын

    I do like how the witch turned them into how they saw each other. Like his servants saw the prince as a beast and the prince saw his servant as objects to serve him.

  • @tobehonest4833

    @tobehonest4833

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great observation!

  • @dootersnooter5343

    @dootersnooter5343

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh. I didn't even think about this.

  • @puppeiluv826

    @puppeiluv826

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @rosekopelowitz5069

    @rosekopelowitz5069

    2 жыл бұрын

    DANG

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Touche'

  • @qwmx
    @qwmx2 жыл бұрын

    Belle is forgiving to the sheep that ate part of the page of her book and is irritated by Gaston throwing her book into a mud puddle because she understands sheep eat anything, adults generally understand the concept of respecting people's properties.

  • @wendychavez5348

    @wendychavez5348

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a very good point! Besides, the sheep didn't bite into any words on the page, but Gaston's mud got all over everything.

  • @laryb.5136

    @laryb.5136

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jennifermathew1285 wow, you are strong, but I do hope you find a solution to this and not allow yourself to always get hurt like that :( is there a way to teach him not to do it? Maybe as he gets older? Or maybe give him space when he gets angry?

  • @taliw7736

    @taliw7736

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol yep

  • @plipplop1769

    @plipplop1769

    2 жыл бұрын

    I still agree that her reaction was muted though. I definitely don't love books nearly as much as Belle, but I'd be so down if a book I bought got ripped. I'm in perpetual annoyance after a book I have got a stain on it, I couldn't even imagine what it's like to Belle who has so few books. And if some asshole threw my book in mud YOU BEST BET HE WOULDN'T JUST GET A NASTY LOOK. I'm straight punching him and never talking to him again.

  • @Kaiser8513

    @Kaiser8513

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@plipplop1769 Honestly I kind of feel it is a little worse since it was likely another library book and not actually her property based off her response about repeatedly picking up the same book while returning others so anyone else who checks that book out will also see the torn pages. Also goes to show Gaston wasn't paying attention to the book as he flipped through the pages claiming no pictures were in it despite us just having witnessed the sheep bite a page with a photo on it but who knows if the other side of that page had anything important to the book's story that is now missing.

  • @joannap8769
    @joannap8769 Жыл бұрын

    And Belle didn’t directly “teach him how to love”. She is not going out of her way to “fix” him. She just held him accountable for his bad behavior and HE changed himself. She called him out, it changed his perspective, and he improved himself. Then and only then is when she started warming up to him. Thank you for pointing out that the nuance to this story.

  • @juliaschurmann358

    @juliaschurmann358

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a pride and prejudice feel to it for me in that way. They call each other out, consider the other person's perspective and work on themselves accordingly.

  • @soyaliovee

    @soyaliovee

    10 ай бұрын

    @@juliaschurmann358 I was surprised that I am surprised knowing this lol, I have always loved B&TB as a child and I was a Jane Austen fan because of P&P but it never occurred to me that way😂 thx for pointing that out!

  • @Rosefire

    @Rosefire

    9 ай бұрын

    @@juliaschurmann358 Belle also reminded me of Elizabeth Bennett. At the start of the book Lizzie doesn't state her ideal man, but the readers know she isn't interested in pompous cousin Mr. Collins or rude first-impressions Darcy. Belle starts the film avoiding Gaston, because she instinctively knows he isn't right for her because he doesn't respect her (or her father). Lizzie gradually sees Darcy through different eyes, as Belle learned to find the man within the Beast.

  • @babybug6462

    @babybug6462

    2 ай бұрын

    No and he gave her that freedom to choose what she wants he felt bad sending her father out so he gave her the mirror to help her find him

  • @patchie5044
    @patchie5044 Жыл бұрын

    I love the subtitles referring Gaston as “No-Belle prize winner” 🤣

  • @castlenovelist97BOOKS

    @castlenovelist97BOOKS

    Жыл бұрын

    I laughed more than I should've because I've studied this story for a long time and this story is very nostalgic.

  • @eunbitpark5251

    @eunbitpark5251

    Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!!! 😂😂

  • @cylvichan4489

    @cylvichan4489

    Жыл бұрын

    "No Belle? 🥺 "

  • @mareinachico8777

    @mareinachico8777

    Жыл бұрын

    “No-Belle Prize Winner” made me cackle so loud that I actually spooked my cat 😂😂😂

  • @devinreis5811

    @devinreis5811

    Жыл бұрын

    Love the play on words.

  • @bpsara
    @bpsara2 жыл бұрын

    You technically cannot buy love with a library, but you can show your love and appreciation to someone by giving them a deeply personal and meaningful gift. And a library to a bookworm is kind of an ultimate life goal (source: me, a bookworm)

  • @ShinoriDelfrim

    @ShinoriDelfrim

    2 жыл бұрын

    😱 Yes! Hello fellow bookworm 📚

  • @CubeyDexter

    @CubeyDexter

    2 жыл бұрын

    If anyone would appreciate my hobby just half as much as the beast belles love for books, I would die instantly of unconditional love! I swear (greetings a bookworm myself)

  • @ariellak4867

    @ariellak4867

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a fellow bookworm, this was my dream as a child. And also one of the reasons I could never get into e-readers. I am working on building my own personal library & being able to lend out/share books with people makes me very happy.

  • @GrandisSilva

    @GrandisSilva

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and the fact that he is so, so happy by her reaction. He's giving her something he knows she'll like, and she gets to experience his joy at doing a nice thing. So she sees him start to care about her and respect her, which shows her how much he's growing.

  • @HopeGardner3amed

    @HopeGardner3amed

    2 жыл бұрын

    Make sure it is cool in summer and warm in winter. (Had one that I never used because it was too hot/cold.)

  • @hannahbedington9980
    @hannahbedington99802 жыл бұрын

    "You cannot buy love with a library" DONT LISTEN TO HIM, GIVE US A LIBRARY

  • @thevrana

    @thevrana

    2 жыл бұрын

    So guys, you heard it here. Bring your Kindle to your next date.

  • @JP-pp2tn

    @JP-pp2tn

    2 жыл бұрын

    seriously you mean i didn't have to be single in high school, i just had to buy a girl i liked a library dam it and here i used my allowance to buy lunch when i could of bought a library to get a girl to like me LOL

  • @nira8289

    @nira8289

    2 жыл бұрын

    Period sister. Library= marriage

  • @selinesbeau

    @selinesbeau

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a bookworm girl with brown hair, Belle was my favourite princess.

  • @leaflet1686

    @leaflet1686

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would say yes imedieatlely... (How do I write that word, I'm German :D) When he has a library, he wanted it in the first place. Which means he likes to read and is probably a smarty, well read, lot's of imagination, big dreams, healthy mind. All good tropes in character. Then he actually has the money to do so! For someone like me a dream coming true. When he has the money to buy an entire library, he is stable in life. So yeah... Day 1 to ??? I will tackle the fantasy section.

  • @wardachrouaa7281
    @wardachrouaa7281 Жыл бұрын

    Gaston's behaviour when he enters her house is just absolutely dangerous. A man forcing himself in her house, following his prey around, trying to touch her and pin her down...that's just every woman's biggest nightmare. To me, this is the reason why she wants to flee the village at that moment. She never felt like she was in place there, but now she feels that she escaped a near rape, she has lost all feeling for safety. Nobody will defend her if Gaston does it, he is the hero of the village. Nobody will believe her. And Gaston will not doubt of telling her that. He's the Weinstein of the village. God knows how many victims there are. So when he has left, she stays inside and barrickades the door. A loooong time afterhe has left, she is brave enough to peek through the door. The emotions; humiliation, shame, anger, fear, unbelief...it is all clear as she talks to herself when going out. Then she takes a run to leave the village, but one thing keeps her from actually running away: her father. She would never want to leave her father behind. So she cannot force herself to run away, even choosing her father over her own safety, but at the same time reluctant to return to the house in which she doesn't feel safe anymore. As a woman I always felt sick to my stomach seeing this scene.

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    Belle always knew how bad he was though and was smart enough to not give into him.

  • @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    Жыл бұрын

    In fact, in the musical adaptation, Gaston himself even says that even after he plans to marry Belle, he's still going to be with the three busty triplets who fawn all over him from the very beginning (and no doubt, as the resident prostitutes of the village, probably carry all manner of sexually transmitted diseases), which would leave Belle stuck taking care of however many sons she unwillingly sires for Gaston before Gaston dies, leaving Belle to mourn for her lost dreams & stolen youth.

  • @asha_vere

    @asha_vere

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. I'm surprised they didn't actually analyze it from that perspective, but I guess he doesn't have knowledge of sexual assault to give a proper analysis

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TherealRNOwwfpooh And I'm not the least surprised to read that.

  • @IMayOrMayHaveNot

    @IMayOrMayHaveNot

    Жыл бұрын

    "Nobody will believe her" Knowing these people, I think they'd outright call her crazy for not wanting to have sex with him ....

  • @sarahcaitlyn88
    @sarahcaitlyn88 Жыл бұрын

    Belle is hands down the most positive Disney princess for a child to look up to. She is educated, doesn't care what people think even when it is positive like when they talk of her beauty. She rejects a handsome ass hole. She loves her father, defends him, and overtime falls for someone who isn't attractive when she gets to know him and bond with him. Gotta say though... Always thought the beast was more attractive before he was human 🤣and I'm not even a furry. Hahaha

  • @freetobree5323

    @freetobree5323

    Жыл бұрын

    Would you say she’s more positive than Tiana

  • @sarahcaitlyn88

    @sarahcaitlyn88

    Жыл бұрын

    @@freetobree5323 hmm... Yes. And I feel like she is more kind hearted. The only reason she was in her position was to save her father. A truly selfless act. Tiana is doing it for a reward to buy her restaurant and then to save herself from being a frog... not to save someone. She is very brave though

  • @laryneskridge-williams7200

    @laryneskridge-williams7200

    Жыл бұрын

    YESSS !! I was like, what's wrong with me for liking him more as a Beast 😈. Maybe I am a furry and didn't know it 😂

  • @doro5026

    @doro5026

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sarahcaitlyn88 They both follow the shared falling in love with someone over time when in a position of captivity which I think is neat. They just have different reasons as to why they ended up in the situation.

  • @godslittlegirl

    @godslittlegirl

    Жыл бұрын

    but beast after his transformation was 😍

  • @allieware8120
    @allieware81202 жыл бұрын

    Belle = everything Bella is not in Twilight. Beast orders him to come to dinner and she basically says she'd rather starve. I love the shot after the wolves where she's treating his wounds because he's litterally this massive, horrifying creature roar-screaming at her and she just sits, back straight, hair flying in his rage till he's done. I'd be terrified, but she just shoots back "serves you right." She has so much compassion, but she has such a healthy amount of self respect.

  • @katrinedda1107

    @katrinedda1107

    2 жыл бұрын

    Literally I strive to have the same amount of self confidence and bravery as her😭

  • @DomCOuano

    @DomCOuano

    2 жыл бұрын

    ya yo Belle was always a hero to me. first thing i saw her do was defend herself from the town loud mouth. i didn't understand that at the time but that was very important for me (and many other kids) to actually see. then she goes looking for her dad after he gets lost in the woods and pretty much frees her dad from a cage. then she becomes super buddies with the FURNITURE. they see her humanity and they sing to her and feed her. then she nurses the giant furry like you said. then the town loud mouth comes back and he goes for the giant furry... and WHO ENDS UP SAVING THE WHOLE CASTLE? (sorry for the spoilers)

  • @sexysadie2901

    @sexysadie2901

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a stupid thing to talk about Bella here. You are not the sharpest tool in the box.🤦

  • @Ari_Nekochan

    @Ari_Nekochan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sexysadie2901 what? Why?

  • @Socasmx

    @Socasmx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I loved these parts!

  • @stormromera240h6
    @stormromera240h62 жыл бұрын

    “Unlike Gaston who is a jerk because he loves himself too much, Beast is awful because he hates himself,” Damn, this statement hit me like a truck and I’m not even a minute in

  • @MumblesZombie

    @MumblesZombie

    Жыл бұрын

    Right? What do I do?. Just be like ".. eh. I'm alright"

  • @ShadowyFox_86

    @ShadowyFox_86

    Жыл бұрын

    He's SUCH a sad individual. When he faces off against Gaston (when he thinks Belle is gone for good), the sadness in his eyes is heartbreaking.

  • @indigoziona

    @indigoziona

    Жыл бұрын

    The moment where Gaston goes "Did you honestly think she would want you when she has SoMeOnE LiKe Me?!" And you know that punches Beast right in the inferiority complex even though we'd all prefer a gentlemanly if furry beast man to bloody Gaston the narcissist.

  • @jclyntoledo

    @jclyntoledo

    Жыл бұрын

    But wasn't that already obvious?!...

  • @jeffmuller1489

    @jeffmuller1489

    Жыл бұрын

    I got brainwashed into hating myself over my lifetime. My father, my X, my sister, then there are the legitimate failures and just being human backing all that up.. now I have a wife who loves my more than I ever thought possible and I am healing and believing that I am actually lovable. I'm still struggling with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and even my own acceptance, but I know the truth, and eventually the Truth will set me free. ❤️

  • @winsy5241
    @winsy5241 Жыл бұрын

    Can we talk about how 8:22 is straight out of an abusive relationship? No greeting, only talks about what he wants her to do, no respect for her possessions/house and the most important, no respect for her consent or boundaries. Like the walk up where he throws over a chair and pins her to the wall to kiss her is exactly how abusive relationships are portrayed. It’s played as a joke but that actually happens and it’s terrifying

  • @jbcatz5

    @jbcatz5

    Жыл бұрын

    He basically says he’s going to rape her. She will give him children, sons specifically, and she has no say in the matter. Gaston belongs on a list and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but his fixation on Belle may have saved other women in the village from this. Gaston is more beastly than an actual beast.

  • @jorgebersabe293

    @jorgebersabe293

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jbcatz5 He is also a disturbing depiction of a "nice guy": Gaston believes that Belle owes him sex just for paying attention to her and the moment she rejects him, he restorts to violence.

  • @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297

    @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297

    Жыл бұрын

    Go to the Manosphere and you'll see Gastons 😂

  • @daisyallen4954

    @daisyallen4954

    Жыл бұрын

    and what’s crazy is that i’ve never seen this movie so from your description i thought the beast did this, but it was actually gaston. the way this movie subverts preconceived notions is fantastic

  • @kant.68

    @kant.68

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jorgebersabe293 Wtf you talking about??

  • @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
    @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 Жыл бұрын

    What particularly disturbs me about the "Beauty and the Beast is StOcKhOlM sYnDrOmE" crowd is they NEVER, NEVER, NEVER make a single objection about Gaston's behavior. They waste all their breath calling the relationship between Beast and Belle as toxic, but turn a completely blind eye to how Gaston acts around Belle. I think it reveals more about them than it does the movie itself.

  • @gabriellagalli8564

    @gabriellagalli8564

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s because they’re so freaking many like Gaston so they think it’s a phase or something normal. “Boys will be boys” kind of thing

  • @brittybee6615

    @brittybee6615

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe they just think it should go without saying… No one actually believes Gaston’s behavior is ok. The only time I heard a defense of Gaston was from KZreadr John Doyle and that was tongue in cheek.

  • @yukirei528

    @yukirei528

    Жыл бұрын

    If I had to guess, I'd probably say that this is, because Gastons behaviour is never portrayed as something good in the movie. It's fun to poke at things the movie portays as good or romantic and turn them around. It gives space to debate. Stating Gastons behaviour as bad wouldn't be a turn or an "interesting new take". It would just be stating the obvious... At least, that's what I think might be the reason for these people not pointing that out.😅

  • @nebula1931

    @nebula1931

    Жыл бұрын

    Because Gaston's behavior isn't propped up like the relationship between the beast and belle is, that's not difficult to comprehend

  • @aikikaname6508

    @aikikaname6508

    Жыл бұрын

    Umm, that’s because Gaston is the VILLAIN and it’s universally accepted that his behaviour is awful. The movie portrays him as awful, there’s never a shadow of doubt so of course they don’t mention his behaviour. It doesn’t need to be said

  • @Blackjack1317
    @Blackjack13172 жыл бұрын

    Belle: "Dad, do you think I'm weird?" Dad: "No, darling, why would you think that?" Belle: "Well, the entire village just sang a song about it" Dad: "Oh yeah. I saw them rehearsing it, earlier today"

  • @breaksnakereel402

    @breaksnakereel402

    2 жыл бұрын

    Now that's a WEIRD ass village.

  • @junjunjamore7735

    @junjunjamore7735

    2 жыл бұрын

    But she sang too.

  • @JuMiKu

    @JuMiKu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@junjunjamore7735 Well yes. They wrote a song just for her. The least she could do was show up for rehearsal every week on Tuesday. Next week they will start on the song for that happy guy with the pig.

  • @HimynameisJermHicks

    @HimynameisJermHicks

    2 жыл бұрын

    That basically defines what it's like to live in a small town. I remember, the town I grew up in, Stevenson, Washington that only had 1,500 people.

  • @Nova7o9

    @Nova7o9

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol!! Thanks for the laugh 😂

  • @marielpare8290
    @marielpare82902 жыл бұрын

    The Stockholm Syndrome thing always bugged me because she didn’t start coming around to him until he genuinely stopped being a dick to her and started being nice. And when he releases her as his prisoner, she actually leaves. And she may not have come back if it weren’t for the impending danger. That’s not Stockholm Syndrome.

  • @MsDianation09

    @MsDianation09

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!!!

  • @adornapendragon8953

    @adornapendragon8953

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is so true!!!! 🤗 Although the Project Gutenberg version was one hell of a ride 🤣 it oozes Stockholm Syndrome at its finest 🤣

  • @summerrose8110

    @summerrose8110

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Whitney Avalon's Princess Rap Battles doesn't help at all, and those shitty memes annoy me.

  • @AngelJuliet

    @AngelJuliet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abusers can however start to act nice in order to further control them.

  • @TheSolitaryGrape

    @TheSolitaryGrape

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! And he doesn't just act nice in order to make her like him, he finally has some self-awareness and chooses to become a better person. He doesn't try and manipulate her, he just wants her to be happy. And she doesn't stick around, when she goes into the West Wing and he throws a tantrum, she's still technically bound by her word, but she says "fuck that" and bounces because she doesn't feel safe. Both times she returns, there is a reason, and she fully makes that choice. She has so much agency in this film, and it sucks when people try to oversimplify it just to try and dunk on it.

  • @carnivorouspiano2394
    @carnivorouspiano2394 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for restoring my faith in this romance. I loved this movie as a kid, so it made me sad when I learned about Stockholm syndrome and made the connection with the story. Now I can love it again without feeling guilty! 😭

  • @Just.Kidding

    @Just.Kidding

    Жыл бұрын

    You can feel even better because there's no such thing as Stockholm Syndrome. It's a totally fictional pop culture invention. There's never been a single confirmed case after the bank incident iirc, and the very idea of it has been thoroughly debunked for a very long time.

  • @loststar2375

    @loststar2375

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @DenDenSushi

    @DenDenSushi

    Жыл бұрын

    same feeling!

  • @CycloneFox

    @CycloneFox

    Жыл бұрын

    And that's why it's important to listen to your own heart, not some stranger on the internet or even reviews.

  • @devinreis5811

    @devinreis5811

    Жыл бұрын

    The Beast was like a child in a candy store when Belle was reading King Arthur.

  • @jotunfalls4026
    @jotunfalls4026 Жыл бұрын

    The library scene is AMAZING bc it's the first time someone acknowledges Belle's loves for books in a positive way. Beast isn't trying to buy her love, he's just giving this to her because he knows how much it means to her and because he wants her to feel happy.

  • @linkLoverAG

    @linkLoverAG

    9 ай бұрын

    And adding to this, how absolutely giddy he is to show her this and make her happy. The dude is on cloud 9 just by showing her the library. The facial animation on him, also considering they have to figure out how to make a beast face look THAT excited, is so impressive to me.

  • @ingridsuperfreak

    @ingridsuperfreak

    9 ай бұрын

    But no t only that , later in the movie (well in the added scene of "human again " ) Belle is reading Romeo and Juliet and Beast is next to her listening to her completely hipnotized😊. He loves her so much that not only he gives his library to her , but he also SHARES hee passion with her .

  • @annoyinglysarcastic9532

    @annoyinglysarcastic9532

    8 ай бұрын

    It's my biggest aspiration in life to own a library like that.

  • @teamaang7915
    @teamaang79152 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't so much the 'act of giving a library' that was special to Belle. It was because in spite of everyone making her feel like a freak for loving books so much it showed he was actively supporting her reading, making her feel truly heard and seen. Also because he knew she loved to read and had to give up books for the rest of her life to live with him and this broke his heart. making her 10x more valued than Gaston

  • @livik9582

    @livik9582

    2 жыл бұрын

    He saw something she loves and gave her something based on that. He took the time to care and my god, my heart

  • @tendigitnumber

    @tendigitnumber

    2 жыл бұрын

    I want to add that I don't think that gifting her with the library was a means of "I want this girl to fall in love with me, what does she like?" Instead, he says it's because he wants to do something NICE for her. Yeah, he is saying it because he's feeling something he's never felt before, but to me it always came off as wanting to show appreciation for Belle rather than I BRING YOU PRESENT PLS LOVE ME So yeah, it is effectively because he wants her to be happy. He starts doing a lot of things to try and make the castle and life there more comfortable for her too, putting in the effort simply because she's important to him. And that effort is there, Belle sees it, acknowledges it, and is receptive to it. That being receptive is what allows real love to start happening. Also, I love that they actually do sit down and read together. A shared love of literature is a thing they have in common and it's super cute that they spend that time just enjoying a good book by the fire.

  • @aaronpulley7528

    @aaronpulley7528

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gifts are one of the 5 love languages. Maybe it's not a good reason for Belle to fall in love with him, but it's a valid way for him to express his feelings. (Even if it's possibly a bit over-the-top.)

  • @Wuffskers

    @Wuffskers

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's similar to when someone gives a gift that's very specific to your interests, while yes it's something material technically it does show that they know and understand you, they pay attention and listen to you and care about what you are passionate about and they took the time to think about a gift or gesture catered specifically to you. Sometimes the implicit aspects of a gift speaks volumes about how they see you and care about you that can mean a lot more than the gift itself.

  • @finlayarts2686

    @finlayarts2686

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, in a deleted scene that makes it into the extra song "Human Again" in the extended animated version and has it's own segment in the Broadway play, Beast has a huge character building moment. Before we see him always forcing his will on others but for the first time he lowers his guard by admitting he'd never truly learned/ lost the ability to read after he gifts Belle the library to make her happy. Belle offers to teach him and soon they bond over their love of books. In the Broadway play Belle even falls asleep while Beast was reading to her but he's so invested in the story that it's not until he has a question that he realizes she'd been asleep propped against his shoulder. Instead of waking her to answer his question he gently moves her into a more comfortable position before returning to reading the book. It may seem small and insignificant but it really shows the huge breakthrough for both of them in the story.

  • @bigWazaa
    @bigWazaa2 жыл бұрын

    - Gaston: "There are no pictures" - Belle: "It has. A sheep has just eaten it"

  • @oneminuteofmyday

    @oneminuteofmyday

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the same thing at that part. lol

  • @BanniToki

    @BanniToki

    2 жыл бұрын

    The sheep eating a page scene is a total suspension of disbelief killer for me. I get upset over a slight dog-eared page or a wrinkle. lol

  • @_stupidbro

    @_stupidbro

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Hello_Gorgeous

    @Hello_Gorgeous

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg 😂❤

  • @Estarfigam

    @Estarfigam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he was looking for a centerfold....

  • @kelleyceccato7025
    @kelleyceccato7025 Жыл бұрын

    "It's yours -- because I don't know how to read." This is why I love the film with the cut scenes added in. We get to see Belle teaching Beast to read. One of the sweetest scenes in the movie failed to make it into the theatrical release.

  • @animeotaku307

    @animeotaku307

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish they kept it in. It would've been another way Beast and Gaston were different. While they're both illiterate, Beast is interested and wants to learn more while Gaston doesn't see it as worthwhile.

  • @devinreis5811

    @devinreis5811

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't mind hearing it over and over again.

  • @muchanadziko6378

    @muchanadziko6378

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a nice touch, but a „prince” in 18th or something Century not being able to read is just absurd

  • @wildfire9280

    @wildfire9280

    Жыл бұрын

    @@muchanadziko6378 True but monks would’ve prioritized this over nobility or royalty.

  • @sanv3275

    @sanv3275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@muchanadziko6378 thats because he is 11

  • @schmelzwah
    @schmelzwah Жыл бұрын

    One thing I always loved about the scene where Belle and Beast are arguing after the wolf attack is the way she responds to beast by comparison to the servants. The servants are afraid when he yells and run to hide, she doesn't even flinch and instead goes harder into his face. That shows even more her bravery and strong will.

  • @wormteeth1734
    @wormteeth17342 жыл бұрын

    Something I noticed when Gaston just invited himself into Belle’s house is that she was constantly trying to put distance between herself and him, and he was constantly trying to close the distance and corner her. She was putting furniture between them- chairs, desks- and ducking under his arm when he tried to corner her. Like, talk about a red flag- dude can’t take a hint, for one thing, and it’s a nonverbal way of establishing that Gaston will never care about her boundaries or comfort, imo.

  • @karma6574

    @karma6574

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't have opened the door. I always thought it was weird that _she_ did.

  • @ingridsuperfreak

    @ingridsuperfreak

    2 жыл бұрын

    And in the Dance scene , Belle put herself close to the Beast and he was surprised ...why ?, because she felt comfortable with him , knowing he wasn't going to hurt her or take advantage of her, unlike Gaston. The Beast respects her, so she then takes the initiative

  • @soulangela7154

    @soulangela7154

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup, and then when she put herself against a wall I just had that 'oh no, don't do that, you can't run from there' stressed feeling but then she opened the door and I was so relieved and happy.

  • @starlegends3092

    @starlegends3092

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya lol

  • @BatSnakegirl

    @BatSnakegirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ingridsuperfreak And then the Beast's confusion followed immediately by utter glee just rounds out the contrasting scenes.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq2 жыл бұрын

    I've never felt that Belle ever had Stockholm Syndrome. Emma Watson even agrees with this stance, pointing out that Belle kept her independence the whole time, and argued with the Beast, until he showed a softer side. He even freely allowed her to leave when she saw that Maurice was in trouble.

  • @Firegen1

    @Firegen1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lindsay Ellis did a whole thing on how lazy this interpretation was and how it came about through Buzzfeeding. It never made sense and as put by Jonathan and Lindsay. She breaks most of his stipulations immediately.

  • @koggoku

    @koggoku

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Firegen1 Lindsay Ellis did a good breakdown of Beauty and the Beast

  • @catd5307

    @catd5307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the captor fell in love with the captee. That’s the reverse of Stockholm syndrome

  • @thechainwarden

    @thechainwarden

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that the original story from the 1700s was about arranged marriage and an attempt to convince girls that even though it might seem bad it could end up well for them and that they could find love in it.

  • @UltimaAzN

    @UltimaAzN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@catd5307 aka Lima Syndrome

  • @tylerhill2202
    @tylerhill2202 Жыл бұрын

    Now that I'm older I can see that this film is actually pretty dark in certain areas. The main thing being that spell the Beast is under is not just physical but psychological as well. Its spell is slowing stripping away at his humanity and the longer he remains a beast the more beast-like he becomes. When he's first introduced, he walks on all fours like an animal, is more angry and territorial and wears only pants and a cloak for clothes but over the course of the movie he begins to regain his humanity thanks to the time he spends with Belle. The directors confirmed in an interview/commentary that if the Beast had never met Belle and the spell never broken then he would've stopped wearing clothes all together, would forget how to talk and would've run off to live in the woods like a wild animal. It's a pretty disturbing notion that the spell is turning him into a beast both on the outside and the inside.

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    And all of his servants would have become household objects for real.

  • @leonorapaust6369
    @leonorapaust6369 Жыл бұрын

    As you guys were talking about Belle being kind of distanced from the town, the realisation hit me like a brick - all the townpeople are dressed in warm tones, the coolest tones being green tones and creams. Belle is quite literally divorced from them with her stark white blouse and skirt as well as her prominently blue apron. She is visually othered, her gestures + body language others her and the fact that even though everyone talks about her, she barely says a word to anyone. In every possible way, she was set apart from them

  • @DN-rm2yi

    @DN-rm2yi

    Жыл бұрын

    U7gc

  • @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus, Gaston wears red, as does the Beast earlier on. But as Belle falls for the Beast, he starts to wear purple (his cape) and blue (his formal dress suit for the titular song).

  • @meridaskywalker7816

    @meridaskywalker7816

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TherealRNOwwfpooh Wow, true! I never noticed that!

  • @cindyhutchins9216
    @cindyhutchins92162 жыл бұрын

    I think Gaston wants belle for his wife because she's the one thing he can't have. That drives narcissists insane.

  • @koolkat2867

    @koolkat2867

    2 жыл бұрын

    Being saying that for years:)

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    And in general that is something many masculine energy filled people adore

  • @cindyhutchins9216

    @cindyhutchins9216

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@msk-qp6fn I am recovering from narcissist and psychopathic abuse. I knew I was in recovery when I watched Lucifer and all my friends were talking about how dreamy he was. I said " he's a narcissistic ass!" They said well, yeah? Girls are conditioned to fall for these guys.

  • @cindyhutchins9216

    @cindyhutchins9216

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stupid phone. I hate my spell check

  • @sandraswan9008

    @sandraswan9008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@msk-qp6fn huh?

  • @kathryng13
    @kathryng132 жыл бұрын

    I think the fact that Gaston is a prolific hunter and collector of “trophies” speaks to his character as well as his intentions towards Belle. We are introduced to him hunting, and when declares his interest in Bell he says “I’ve got my sights set on that one” while pointing his gun at her. Not very subtle. She’s the most beautiful girl in town, and so he needs to capture her, hunt her, trap her, etc. just like the animals he hunts, he doesn’t care about her for what she is, only for what she will do for the image he has cultivated for himself. The fact that she is uninterested in him doesn’t matter, and in fact I’d say that probably only makes him more interested because of the “challenge” she presents.

  • @sfleischer1336

    @sfleischer1336

    2 жыл бұрын

    EXACTLY!!!!

  • @isisbeatriz9110

    @isisbeatriz9110

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes, exactly

  • @bigpapamagoo8696

    @bigpapamagoo8696

    2 жыл бұрын

    The more she resists, the more into it he gets. He loves to hunt, even after people.

  • @snoopygonewilder

    @snoopygonewilder

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Since he thinks so highly of himself, he believes he deserves the best. To him the most beautiful girl in the village is the best, so he must own that, and I say "that" because to him Belle is not a person, she's a thing he must own.

  • @trypotherapy7478

    @trypotherapy7478

    2 жыл бұрын

    yep, an expert _"womanizer"_ like him needs to catch every trophy wife in town.

  • @BarbaraMarieLouise
    @BarbaraMarieLouise Жыл бұрын

    Well, what most don’t know is that this story is originally a French fairy tale based on an real love story. Katharina de Medici forced one of her court ladies to marry a wolf-man that they considered to be a beast. But he was actually a good hearted man and on the wedding night he didn’t force her to anything but was rather shy. So with the time they both fell in love and then had 4 kids together. So, in fact, the original story turned out to be a big love story.

  • @theanicolesallustio4377

    @theanicolesallustio4377

    Жыл бұрын

    As a girl from the same city of Caterina de Medici (I think it's the same person you wrote about?), I'm absolutely going to investigate this story

  • @BarbaraMarieLouise

    @BarbaraMarieLouise

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theanicolesallustio4377 Si! Vai a lo investigare!

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    A wolf-man? How can you be a wolf-man?

  • @BarbaraMarieLouise

    @BarbaraMarieLouise

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Furienna oh, That’s when you grow hair on your whole body, also the face etc. It’s called like this. It’s something genetical. But it’s not a chimera of human and wolf.

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BarbaraMarieLouise Ah, that is what I thought as well. But I wanted to make sure.

  • @ulvesparker
    @ulvesparker Жыл бұрын

    I just have to comment, the voice actor/singer for Gaston has an astounding baritone timbre and as in traditional opera casting, the bass baritone is often the "villain".

  • @AAA839

    @AAA839

    Жыл бұрын

    The Voice actor of Gaston is Richard White.also a boardway star.who had been playing Phantom. Beauty and the beast and tye little mermaid had persuade by Howard Ashman to use a boardway actor to do the Speaking and Singing voice.Not just cast the voice because of their frame.

  • @foxyjambread3826

    @foxyjambread3826

    11 ай бұрын

    My mother went to school with him.

  • @DecemberSfy
    @DecemberSfy2 жыл бұрын

    *“At first I was creeped out by the talking, singing monster-house, but then the dancing BEERS showed up!”* This is the BEST fictitious Yelp review to ever exist! 😂

  • @DecemberSfy

    @DecemberSfy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Holy cow, I just realized Disney’s “Beauty and the Beast” is somewhat similar to Jane Austen's “Pride and Prejudice”!

  • @elaineb7065

    @elaineb7065

    2 жыл бұрын

    It had me in stitches!!!

  • @DiscoTimelordASD

    @DiscoTimelordASD

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't breathe 😂

  • @Colopty

    @Colopty

    2 жыл бұрын

    I need more fictional Yelp reviews like that in my life.

  • @dirtywhitellama

    @dirtywhitellama

    2 жыл бұрын

    100%.

  • @moonbeamsun9066
    @moonbeamsun90662 жыл бұрын

    Gaston wants Belle because, as he says in his first lines “She’s the best. And don’t I deserve the best?”. He views her as just another trophy to keep in his house. That’s not love.

  • @ChristineTheHippie

    @ChristineTheHippie

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the fact that he says "I deserve the best", again making Belle his prize.

  • @gypsywoman9140

    @gypsywoman9140

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Dark That's one thing I liked better in the unnecessary live-action remake; Gaston explains that he's uninterested in the other girls because they throw themselves at him.

  • @dyvfsdgdrgkhgderx9282

    @dyvfsdgdrgkhgderx9282

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Dark Often times narcissist who are used to getting everything they want, get obsessive or angry when they don’t get what they want. I think the reason he wanted Belle so bad was because he felt like he couldn’t have her which offended him and offered a challenge. He felt like if he could complete that challenge and have her, the one thing out of his reach, that it would be proof that he really is the best. IMO

  • @phoebusapollo8365

    @phoebusapollo8365

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Dark I think you missed some very important byplay in the 1991 movie between Gaston and Lefou. He points out that she’s the most beautiful girl in town, making her the best, and therefore, he deserves her. This not only answers the question of “why is he interested in her if she’s so smart and well read and he’s no into that?” But also reveals how much stock and importance Gaston places in physical outward beauty and perfection, his own beauty and perfection, his own worth, and just how little he cares about things like personality and character. As he considers someone to be what he deserves from pure physical beauty ignoring other less beautiful suitors attracted to him as well as the massive incompatibility between his interests and that of the person he wishes to wed.

  • @snuggldungeon

    @snuggldungeon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Notice Gaston points his gun at her in that scene? It's about the hunt, power, control, achieving the unattainable. Powerful and subtle symbology is all throughout this film

  • @plusultra219
    @plusultra219 Жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised that you don’t think Belle is starting to catch feelings in the snowball scene. She also wants to dance with the Beast. She may not be in love with him yet, but she’s got to have some kind of butterflies, otherwise it wouldn’t surprise her so much (new and a bit alarming) and make her feel shy and hide behind the tree to try to sort out her feelings. Maybe I relate because I’m a girl.

  • @lorrainesekera4100

    @lorrainesekera4100

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree: there are definite allusions to her starting to catch feelings for him during the snowball fight scene.

  • @theMMAdhatter

    @theMMAdhatter

    Жыл бұрын

    Another agree. Just listen to the lyrics of the song: "There may be something there that wasn't there before." This CAN be taken to mean compassion and affection, but I think (especially considering the time period) it was very much intended to obliquely refer to romantic interest - and bringing up the concept of "Prince Charming" (even if it's only to say he's NOT) is another suggestion in that direction.

  • @soyaliovee

    @soyaliovee

    10 ай бұрын

    That could mean affection and not love tho, since they always say affection and love is dinner

  • @lizard3755
    @lizard375511 ай бұрын

    I love that Alan's parents didn't make him feel bad about crying at Beauty and the Beast. No one should have to feel bad about crying when they're moved by something regardless of gender, and his parents allowing him to express those feelings without guilt is so wonderful and unfortunately not always the case for boys as they're growing up.

  • @cherusiderea1330
    @cherusiderea13302 жыл бұрын

    "Belle could be burned with acid or something and be deformed and she would still be beautiful -- a lovely person." My face being deformed on one side, that hit really close to home, even more so because I didn't expect to hear something like this. Thank you

  • @carpelibrarium8522

    @carpelibrarium8522

    2 жыл бұрын

    "A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely." - Roald Dahl, The Twits

  • @cauhscrymdorn2132

    @cauhscrymdorn2132

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like Johnathan wife's quote. 'Beauty has little to do with how you look'

  • @meimeidelcastillo8819

    @meimeidelcastillo8819

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too ❤️

  • @chriskelly3481

    @chriskelly3481

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, she's loving & kind, selfless, smart, curious, brave, honest, faithful and funny. That's pretty much a sweep. She also happens to be THE "beauty" (as per the title)?!?! Rude. Greedy. 🤷🏼‍♂️😜👍

  • @GrizzneyGames

    @GrizzneyGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chriskelly3481 exactly. Belle in that movie could be the most outwardly hideous person you'd ever see but, I'd be fascinated with who she is. She's a "belle" regardless of whatever exterior standards are out there.

  • @vulcanhumor
    @vulcanhumor2 жыл бұрын

    The other thing about the wolf fight is that afterward, *Belle almost leaves.* She isn't just immediately like "Oh he saved me, I should take care of him now." She almost gets on the horse to leave him in the snow. She's still upset about the confrontation in the West Wing, but she CHOOSES to go back and help him anyway. It doesn't feel like Beast "bought" her sympathy or that she only did it because she owed him. He put himself at risk for her, and she decides that despite everything, that means he's deserving of compassion.

  • @daniellemusella1594

    @daniellemusella1594

    2 жыл бұрын

    @vulcanhumor Yeah. Totally. It's clear in her facial expression: "I could -- no. No. I'm better than that. Papa raised me better than that. I have to help him." (10/13/2021)

  • @nkbujvytcygvujno6006

    @nkbujvytcygvujno6006

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, the reason she makes that choice is definitely more of her remembering her personal sense of morality than her being cowed or coerced into it somehow.

  • @glorialiedtke8931

    @glorialiedtke8931

    2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it manipulation 101 to appeal to the victim's compassion and conscience

  • @GerdiHono

    @GerdiHono

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glorialiedtke8931 but at some point don't people have to decide as well when to use their own kindness and compassion? Like I get what you mean but at some point we need to exercise these things of our own free will as well.

  • @summerrose8110

    @summerrose8110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glorialiedtke8931 Adam didn't manipulate her AT ALL. He LITERALLY CHANGED HIS ATTITUDE AND RESPECTS BELLE. STOP VILLAINIZING HIM WITH BULLSHIT.

  • @kiikat
    @kiikat Жыл бұрын

    "He's kind and gentle, he's my friend" 🥰. Thank you for simply, logically explaining what a beautiful movie / relationship this is!

  • @WeirdSnakeGal
    @WeirdSnakeGal Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad someone finally defended this movie. It was my favourite Disney princess when I was a kid and I still love it today. I never felt that it was Stockholm syndrome. I actually think people seeing evil in everything is getting old. It's just annoying and you can't expect something made 20+ years ago to hold to current societal standards.

  • @wildfire9280

    @wildfire9280

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought the point being made is that it *does* hold up to standards? If it didn’t that _wouldn’t_ be good?

  • @victorsamsung2921

    @victorsamsung2921

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wildfire9280 Beauty And The Beast always has lived up to standards and always will. It's a timeless beauty, like Titanic.

  • @woodcider

    @woodcider

    Жыл бұрын

    “Political correctness” was around 20 years ago though.

  • @brittybee6615

    @brittybee6615

    Жыл бұрын

    People think cynicism is clever. It’s destructive.

  • @robbiewalker2831

    @robbiewalker2831

    10 ай бұрын

    @@brittybee6615 which is why I did not support “Teen Titans Go to the Movies”, “Space Jam: A New Legacy” and “Barbie”; they weren’t presenting stories with a good heart, they were making stories that are too toxic to learn anything.

  • @StoryGirl83
    @StoryGirl832 жыл бұрын

    “You can’t buy love with a library.” Well, no, but with that library, you sure can buy a lot of goodwill.

  • @megroy6396

    @megroy6396

    2 жыл бұрын

    True...but that's not why he gave it to her. It was purely to make her happy, and to see that look on her face. It was that she "received" it, not that he gave it.

  • @irreliventable

    @irreliventable

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can buy a lot of acres of the friend zone

  • @StoryGirl83

    @StoryGirl83

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@megroy6396 This is true. There was no evidence that he was trying to buy her love. And that library was amazing.

  • @mckenzie.latham91

    @mckenzie.latham91

    2 жыл бұрын

    the best part was that the beast wasn’t trying to even get her love, he just wanted to do something for her that she would appreciate.

  • @franceschew2028

    @franceschew2028

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love it especially if you let me fill it up with books I love!

  • @chelnahtheegghead
    @chelnahtheegghead2 жыл бұрын

    The thing that made me appreciate the animated movie’s curse upon the castle staff was realizing: “Oh. It’s a metaphor. The beast sees them as _objects_ so they turn into… objects. Neat.” (Edited “seems” to “sees”.)

  • @anib8863

    @anib8863

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god, how did I not catch that?

  • @chelnahtheegghead

    @chelnahtheegghead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@anib8863 I didn’t get it either until I watched/listened to the director’s commentary a while back. 😂 I would highly recommend it!

  • @Alice-sj9or

    @Alice-sj9or

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why do you explain why you edited your own post?

  • @chelnahtheegghead

    @chelnahtheegghead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Alice-sj9or Because, sometimes, people see that my comment was edited & never know what it was previously. I like saying what I edited (usually for grammatical things). 🤷‍♀️

  • @Alice-sj9or

    @Alice-sj9or

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chelnahtheegghead hmmm, interesting, thanks for your reply! I personally often edit my posts because I always find small typos here and there after I post them, and I don't really care what others may think... 🙃 I've been working on my people pleasing issues for years - glad to see some patters (like explaining my own actions to other people) finally dissolved.

  • @kayleeruiz
    @kayleeruiz Жыл бұрын

    I NEVER fell for the whole “stockholm syndrome” buzzfeed talking point/hot take… she was never really imprisoned or locked away besides the first 30 mins. She even describes it as “a promise she made”. She could leave at any point (which she literally DOES halfway through) but she goes back because she’s a good person and wants to save the Beast. Before he officially gave her his blessing to leave, no one was really going to stop her from leaving before that. Both the Beast, Belle, and the enchanted staff knew that.

  • @mortariana

    @mortariana

    11 ай бұрын

    It's sad when there's one dumb ass article with strong enough presentation based on someone's assumption from watching 10 seconds of the film and people buy it and don't bother forming their own opinion on the matter.

  • @madelinegarber7860

    @madelinegarber7860

    6 ай бұрын

    Totally agreed. I never knew that was even a perspective people had until now.

  • @stephanginther9051
    @stephanginther9051 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact. While most of the Disney versions of the Grim fairy tails were made less dark by a long shot than the original, Beauty And The Beast's original story is only a little darker than the Disney movie. It is a LOT more complicated though. For one thing there were two fairies a good one and a bad one. Also Adam was a nice guy from the get-go, he wasn't cursed for being mean to an old lady, he was cursed BY an old lady (the bad fairy) for refusing to marry her. OH and she was his former nurse. She took care of him as a baby then decided he was hot once he hit his late teens and got ideas. (Herbert is that you?)

  • @niag.3332

    @niag.3332

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow, that's pretty interesting, didn't know that. The danger with the Disney productions is that we tend to forget how the real stories were told. Muss ich wohl doch mal wieder meine Grimmsche Märchensammlung rauskramen 😁.

  • @soyaliovee

    @soyaliovee

    10 ай бұрын

    They changed it for the morals and I like their version better

  • @meridaskywalker7816

    @meridaskywalker7816

    7 ай бұрын

    The original wasn't a Grimm fairytale, it was written by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve.

  • @tariqthomas9090
    @tariqthomas90902 жыл бұрын

    “The *nuance* is actually where Beauty and The Beast is a lovely story.” I cannot thank you enough for saying this. ❤️

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Precisely, the entire story is a lot more nuanced than we'd expect, and both Belle and the Beast grow to love each other in time.

  • @ember1794

    @ember1794

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here!!

  • @tiananesbitt7156

    @tiananesbitt7156

    2 жыл бұрын

    There was another film I needed them to do!

  • @ekenny3425

    @ekenny3425

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hear, hear! ❤️

  • @nitzeart

    @nitzeart

    2 жыл бұрын

    And this is also why the remake is so dang awful 😭

  • @mjosesintilde
    @mjosesintilde2 жыл бұрын

    YESSSS FINALLY someone actually proffesional to clarify that this movie is NOT about Stockholm Syndrome. I love you guys

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, as a licensed therapist, Jonathan knows what he's talking about, and would definitely know the signs of real Stockholm Syndrome if he saw them.

  • @catd5307

    @catd5307

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s also another professional (a therapist I think?) who did reaction on Disney princessses. It wasn’t that person’s personal channel but rather she was invited.

  • @lottietalkie3142

    @lottietalkie3142

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lindsay Ellis did one too, I think. It also really bugs me when people say that, because it's such a lazy analysis.

  • @catd5307

    @catd5307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think it’s a bit of both Stockholm syndrome and the syndrome that’s the opposite of it cause in the end, Belle did technically fall in love with her captor too. She just fell in love later than him.

  • @gabslovestay

    @gabslovestay

    2 жыл бұрын

    I swear I am so happy right now. I remember another video circulating tumblr that also said that it wasn't, but people just don't seem to understand basic facts, even from a professional.

  • @anunaskedforopinion
    @anunaskedforopinion Жыл бұрын

    I also love how Belle is not intimidated by Beast's anger. She sees his character weakness, so his aggression seems toothless to her.

  • @justcallmebon2684
    @justcallmebon2684 Жыл бұрын

    I believe that we don’t get close ups of Belle in the Belle song because it’s about how the town sees her, not how she is. The town doesn’t get a closer, more intimate look at Belle so neither does the audience.

  • @sallyjrwjrw6766

    @sallyjrwjrw6766

    7 ай бұрын

    This is a good point. I liked how in the animated version the town thought she was pretty but weird, versus the live action version where they just didn't like her.

  • @kiapet286
    @kiapet2862 жыл бұрын

    The other thing about the scene with Belle treating the Beast's arm is that she straight up doesn't take any of his crap. He's blustering and yelling and getting in her face and she doesn't let herself get intimidated but instead just yells right back. And he ends up actually realizing she's right about some things and backing off, and then answers her sincerely when she thanks him for saving her life. It's the first time he sees her as a person rather than a prisoner, and it completely changes how he behaves towards her from that point on.

  • @JonDoe-rq2lf

    @JonDoe-rq2lf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, that's wreck it Ralph in a nutshell

  • @kate2create738

    @kate2create738

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is likely the first time (besides being cursed) Beast was ever scolded by anyone. Think about it, he is only surrounded by scared servants and not many know how to approach difficult subjects without acting like they are walking on eggshells, so while those that knew how to talk to him, he didn't take as seriously. There's no family or other relatives to balance his behavior, so he was so used to having things go his way, including going on full rage when pissed, and with that argument he had to start to learn to humble himself. With Belle's side of the argument, he had to consider that certain traits, such as his temper, have got to go if he wants Belle to at least stay. This was a big step for someone with a lot of pride and bitterness to acknowledge, but it was an important step to his character development as well learning to compromise which is essential in a health relationship. It also (along with saving her) gave Belle a reason to be patient with Beast because he considered her issues that transpired previously and he adjusted to fix those issues, she then started to see Beast had a tender side he was not used to presenting.

  • @keylster6765

    @keylster6765

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yet she was a child and he was a grown adult

  • @lelole9360

    @lelole9360

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@keylster6765 Not necessarily, the Beast is 20 turning 21 and Bell is apparently 17, probably to be 18 and she has more worldly experience than Beast, who's been a hermit since he was 11.

  • @keylster6765

    @keylster6765

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lelole9360 no, she isn't... She is around 17 could be younger but she is still a minor, and beast is 21, not 20 he is still an adult and she is a minor doesn't changethat fact even if he was 20.

  • @missyureiii
    @missyureiii2 жыл бұрын

    I think one of the reasons why this cannot be considered as an unhealthy relationship (falling in love with a “monster”) is because Beast’s behavior and attitude towards Belle improves. He was a jerk in the beginning, but then after he saves her from the wolves, he doesn’t fall back to controlling or selfish behavior. He doesn’t hurt her, he lets her go and respects her freedom and her dreams and her choices. Edward and Christian Grey keep falling into possessive and creepy behavior, thus its unhealthy.

  • @rosasutubechannel

    @rosasutubechannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just improving dose not mean it's healthy though, because whenever there is stress in your life the worst parts of you always poke out thier ugly heads. So people should be careful about ignoring red flags just because the have improved. Marriage is going to give you the most stressful and vulnerable moments. Letting someone that close to your heart, it's basically impossible that our faults wont "hurt" our partner at some point, and vice versa.

  • @user-wn3wv5bx5e

    @user-wn3wv5bx5e

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rosasutubechannel That's not the case here though, Beast understanding that Belle needs to leave and cater to her father, and actually letting her go is proof that it _is_ a healthy relationship, since he knows how to give boundaries and let go of her, even if there's the possibility that he'll never see her again. Actually, the moment Belle finds out that her father is in danger, the possibility to lose Belle forever, should be stress-inducing enough to show someone's true character. And he didn't even panic over it, he just let her go, since he knew that Belle would be better off and happier this way.

  • @rosasutubechannel

    @rosasutubechannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-wn3wv5bx5e So sorry, that was an unfinished draft I did not realize posted, Lol. I actually LOVE B&B and similar stories and completely agree with you! But I do worry for woman and men who can get convinced to stay in toxic relationships because "thier partner is trying/improving" especially because marriage has a way of bring out the best and worst in everyone. Those "worse" parts need to be ones we can accept.

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I never liked Disney's Beauty and the Beast or its original tale but I never understood why people saw it as unhealthy. I do understand why some adults are concerned you know with the i can help a bad boy type of thing but the beast and belle's dynamic isn't bad quite on the healthy side if anything

  • @lelelew2735

    @lelelew2735

    2 жыл бұрын

    One of the reasons beast likes belle so much is that she points out his faults im sure being a prince no one ever did this which is why he was cursed in the first place. He wasnt like gaston he wanted to be a better person just didnt know how because he was so spoiled..also it helps that he didnt seek out and kidnap her she made an agreement to trade places giving her control from the start.

  • @dog4lifetraining936
    @dog4lifetraining936 Жыл бұрын

    To me, after watching this video… the power of the story is that Belle started and continued through the story with a solid foundation of her own BOUNDARIES.

  • @lorrainesekera4100

    @lorrainesekera4100

    Жыл бұрын

    YES!

  • @nevermind1904
    @nevermind1904 Жыл бұрын

    As a kid, I used to say that Belle was my favourite Disney princess because she didn't fall in love at first sight for no reason like some other princess

  • @jackwhitbread4583

    @jackwhitbread4583

    3 ай бұрын

    Same for me,Belle was the first princess I saw that was strong, intelligent and not depending on a man to save her. I related to Belle deeply through our shared love for literature as well. She will forever be my favourite Disney princess and I think she is horribly underrated.

  • @GeeklingNo1
    @GeeklingNo12 жыл бұрын

    I want y'all to do cinderella. People think she's a passive character that's just waiting for a prince to save her but I'm reality she's an abuse victim that does what she can with what little she's given and it's a really good image of feminine strength

  • @noxiouschocolate9644

    @noxiouschocolate9644

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s also the fact that she didn’t want to find true love or anything she just wanted to dress nice and go to a party

  • @victoriafinlay23hda

    @victoriafinlay23hda

    2 жыл бұрын

    This...exactly this 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @justmyedits6596

    @justmyedits6596

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noxiouschocolate9644 Truee. Home girl just wanted to go to the ball because it's the ball, the first one in a long while. Even a someone uninterested in the royal family but wants to see something new would be interested for the experience. I'd even want to go for the foods made by the royal chefs lmao

  • @sophiatalksmusic3588

    @sophiatalksmusic3588

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Take has a great video on Cinderella! People seem to forget a lot of the time that she was never even interested in the prince at the beginning; she just wanted a day off from work. Yes, she meets the prince at the ball, but she doesn't go there to meet him; she goes for herself.

  • @plipplop1769

    @plipplop1769

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Cinderella as a character is good, I just don't think the movie as a whole should be used as ultimate role model material for kids. It should be treated as dumb fun like most fairytales imo, further than that and it can be harmful. Because ultimately, what is presented as the reward is romance. It gives the idea that as long as you keep persevering, some prince will just swoop you off your feet and that's kind of the only way things'll get better, to depend on someone else.

  • @Bleuryder
    @Bleuryder2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people gloss over the tiny scene that happens before the library scene. The one where he's with the staff thinking about what he could do/gift her that would make her happy. He's brainstorming about it, but he says he just wants to do something nice for her. He's not out to SUPER impress her, unlike Gaston or anything of the like. He just wants to do something nice and he settles on giving her this library because she adores books. During the library scene, he gets excited at HER reaction, you can even see his 'I did it!" face for a second. He's happy because SHE'S happy, and its basically here that both of them start to see the beast as human. It's this scene where he basically decides he's going to live as his best self.

  • @amiraebrahim1008

    @amiraebrahim1008

    2 жыл бұрын

    YES! the way he phrases it is vital "i've never felt this way about anyone. i want to do something for her". Not, I want to get her to like me or I want to win her over- he just wants to make her feel as happy as she makes him. he's not even thinking about the curse at this point. he's just thinking about her.

  • @MsKitcloudkicker

    @MsKitcloudkicker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said!!!

  • @jayjaybee

    @jayjaybee

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you so much for saying this! I hate how modern cynical interpretations make this movie out to be something it's not.

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    True the Beast's gift was for Belle to be happy not impressed by his possessions

  • @sandshew4158
    @sandshew4158 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that suttley shows Beast becoming more human is when he starts wearing more cloths. His starting outfit was a tattered cap, and ripped pants. In the end its a clean well kept cap, none ripped pants and a clean white shirt.

  • @rissa7059
    @rissa7059 Жыл бұрын

    I have also been turned around; I loved Belle as a kid because she was a girl that loved books as much as I did, but as I got older, I got that same idea that she was just a victim of Stockholm syndrome. You guys gave me back my love for Belle 😊

  • @Thepopcornator
    @Thepopcornator2 жыл бұрын

    I've always loved how Belle's just thoroughly unimpressed with Beast's shouting and complaining when she's tending Beast's wound.

  • @korie4198

    @korie4198

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which is also true of any woman in that situation lol

  • @cosmicwitchclarith

    @cosmicwitchclarith

    2 жыл бұрын

    It allways cracks me up tbh

  • @McCammalot

    @McCammalot

    2 жыл бұрын

    THIS. And this is why anyone alleging "Stockholm Syndrome" utterly fails to convince me. She was completing *a vow for her father* in *medieval-ish times* . Basically filial piety.

  • @sarhahillsburg5142

    @sarhahillsburg5142

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@McCammalot yeah everyone seems forget that despite his appearance he us still just a young man and not been around anyone new in AGES. So after years doing whatever he wants her yelling probs a big shock 😂 it like when kid comes home from college an wanna act like forgot house rules. So funny watch tbh cause he really had no idea how handle being told "no" and someone not rushing do as he says. Thankfully unlike Gaston [who would take that an mean he must get his way by force] Beast uses his head an finds another way an takes a different an kinder approach.

  • @McCammalot

    @McCammalot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sarhahillsburg5142 it's almost a parallel, isn't it? Gaston and Beast are both spoiled, but the Beast grows beyond it (possibly because of lack of human contact and, at the end of the day, not taking it for granted? Whereas Gaston expected to be worshipped.) My theory has a bit of a problem, though, as I don't like to think of the enchanted staff as "not human" contact. I'll have to work on that 😁

  • @darklyo3784
    @darklyo37842 жыл бұрын

    I like the fact that in the animated version everybody else got curse for no reason because I feel like that illustrates a very important lesson ... your bad decisions have consequences, and sometimes those consequences can spill onto other people

  • @MercurialMoon

    @MercurialMoon

    Жыл бұрын

    I get what you mean but I think it'll make more sense if the consequence was natural and inevitable. The witch (or whatever) literally decided to curse everyone when she could have just... chosen not to.

  • @ShadowyFox_86

    @ShadowyFox_86

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MercurialMoon I've always thought that the witch should've been a fairy. That's what happens with fairies in stories. If you scorn them as a royal, they take it out on you and everyone connected to you.

  • @Beacuzz

    @Beacuzz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShadowyFox_86 i always read her as a fae. I know her proper title is enchantress and that and her actions always made me feel more fae then witch. But i read a lot of fairy tales as a kid so maybe just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @ashd.3055

    @ashd.3055

    Жыл бұрын

    I like this concept. It falls in line with one my my dad's gripes about the Little Mermaid was as a result of her running away, the whole kingdom for days on end looked for her and her father was nearly worried to death.

  • @nancy6746

    @nancy6746

    Жыл бұрын

    That is an amazing point

  • @Raztiana
    @Raztiana Жыл бұрын

    Beauty and the Beast has always been one of my favourite Disney movies. Belle is the first intelligent Disney princess and I loved it. She's nerdy and people judge her for that. They can't appreciate her mind, because they are only able to see what's on the outside. Beast was the first Disney prince with a great beard and he teaches us, that this comes with a price. If you find a man with a great beard, he usually has a hairy back ;)

  • @HouseMDaddict
    @HouseMDaddict Жыл бұрын

    13:15 ish, Beast being genuinely surprised that Belle wants to take her father's place. The incredulous tone is one of the many reasons why this film is beautiful. Beast thinks everyone is a horrible person and horrible to each other, and then theres Belle starting to rewrite his perceptions even then. Then throughout the film she continues to be accepting and courageous and fearlessly herself, which is SO unlike the people in her town who wouldnt dare do anything that would be perceived as "unacceptable" or "different". Belle's personality alone is the reason why she was able to look beyond Beast's fear tactics and bad attitude to eventually encourage him to start thinking differently about life and people and himself also.

  • @TynieTyner
    @TynieTyner2 жыл бұрын

    "He's just awful because he hates himself" best words I've ever heard

  • @lunanina20

    @lunanina20

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like myself lol

  • @alexie832

    @alexie832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh.....now that I think about it....that's just depressing.

  • @TraceguyRune

    @TraceguyRune

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well it's flat out wrong. This guy never watched it. Beast is awful for being cruel and selfish. Did you ever watch the movie? If so, remind me, why was he cursed? And why was his curse broken?

  • @TraceguyRune

    @TraceguyRune

    2 жыл бұрын

    Since you're probably too lazy, here it is: Reason for curse: Being selfish to others Reason for broken curse: Loving others, and getting their love back

  • @TynieTyner

    @TynieTyner

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TraceguyRune true

  • @FlyingDutchmanXXX
    @FlyingDutchmanXXX2 жыл бұрын

    The symbolism of the books are so important too. Through out the movie you see her love for books because to her she’s living the adventures in the books she reads. You see Gaston constantly abuse her books which essentially symbolizes Belle herself, but Beast saw her love for books and wanted to give her adventure and more stories. Beast himself knows he has nothing to offer her and in his wildest dreams at this point in the movie where he gives her the library, he couldn’t even picture her loving him. She treats him with kindness and he is learning for the first time since the curse that beauty exists inside people not the outside. Truly love the theme of the books though-out!!

  • @karlalovato1715

    @karlalovato1715

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow😭😭😭

  • @leighmartin9187

    @leighmartin9187

    Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love the line in the play. Beast tells Belle that he didn't realize or forgot that books can take him far away from his situation and make him forget what he has become. Belle understands and tells him that in the village she is considered odd. it is such a powerful scene. It really sparks that connection for the two of them. they realize they have more in common than they realize. They are surrounded by people but felt lonely for so long. I love that they developed a deep friendship.

  • @CyclingM1867

    @CyclingM1867

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow!! This is so incredibly insightful and very well said. Thanks for sharing it.

  • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme

    @itsgonnabeanaurfromme

    Жыл бұрын

    People really call obvious things, symbolism now?

  • @cardinalcardinaltomczyk325

    @cardinalcardinaltomczyk325

    Жыл бұрын

    @@itsgonnabeanaurfromme symbolism and coding are just literary terms... so maybe write your own analysis rather than being condescending over some one else's?

  • @jamiejones6163
    @jamiejones6163 Жыл бұрын

    The bank heist in Sweden didn’t even happen in Stockholm, it was in Oslo. And the hostages of the bank refused to testify against the robbers because the police had made such a sh*tshow out of the negotiations that the hostages had lost faith in the police, where the robbers had actually done more to make sure that the hostages were comfortable than law enforcement did. And some ‘specialist therapist’ or something in Stockholm *heard* about this encounter and came up with this idea based off reports, without even meeting the victims.

  • @cmm5542

    @cmm5542

    Жыл бұрын

    I know; it's crazy that people use such a realistic reaction to make up this entire category of 'dark romance' where people are 'irresistibly drawn' to their abusers for NO REASON. I have NEVER heard of a real-life instance of that happening. In abusive relationships I have actually heard of, the victim believed initially that their abuser was a good person; they were tricked and manipulated into falling in love with a false illusion, not the 'dark reality.' Once they learn the truth, they don't leave because they are afraid of the consequences of angering their abuser, simple as. And maybe natural human embarrassment to accept that they were deceived in the first place. It's a tough situation to 'just leave.' But nobody falls in love with abuse for the sake of being abused. It's just not reality. Edit: Just realized that I didn't clearly indicate that I don't think Beauty and the Beast is in any way representative of this fake 'romantic' Stockholm Syndrome at all, anyway!

  • @hunnykun101
    @hunnykun101 Жыл бұрын

    I personally think Beast giving Belle the library is not going only giving her interests (Her love of books and reading) but a place for her *her own place with the Palace besides her bedroom* and more welcoming her as her home

  • @ezrea9313
    @ezrea93132 жыл бұрын

    If you look at it closely, you'll see the Beast is physically everything Gaston loves about himself, taken to the extreme. What separates man from beast in this story is compassion and love, which is why those are what the Beast must learn and earn to become human again. This can only be accomplished through the hard work and dedication of someone who's never cared about outwardly appearance before, but rather the compassion and love in people's hearts: Belle

  • @GrizzneyGames

    @GrizzneyGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute....You're so right! The Gaston song describes the way the beast looks so well! How did I not notice this?

  • @Maxisamo1

    @Maxisamo1

    2 жыл бұрын

    - Strong - Large - Hairy - Could probably eat more than 5 Dozen Eggs

  • @nah3609

    @nah3609

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except the teeth tho

  • @ashnelson5562

    @ashnelson5562

    2 жыл бұрын

    wAIT I SEE IT YOU'RE SO RIGHT

  • @shadowbrain4814

    @shadowbrain4814

    2 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of a writing prompt I saw awhile ago, which basically said "what if instead of the Beast's curse just lifting and disappearing, it transferred to Gaston instead of his death."

  • @nikkiesweet7939
    @nikkiesweet79392 жыл бұрын

    The captions calling Gaston a "No-Belle Prize Winner" was the cherry on top for me. I love this video.

  • @TheDeceacedGod

    @TheDeceacedGod

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also another note I read 10:28 as established titties

  • @rachelthompson7487

    @rachelthompson7487

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg 🤣

  • @rachelthompson7487

    @rachelthompson7487

    2 жыл бұрын

    What part was that?

  • @isabellaaragao9747

    @isabellaaragao9747

    2 жыл бұрын

    NOOOOO LMAO this is amazing

  • @VioletEmerald

    @VioletEmerald

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had only noticed the "Book thief" nickname and felt so amused

  • @QueenieEileenie
    @QueenieEileenie Жыл бұрын

    Belle was always my favorite Disney princess because of her depth, intelligence, and strength. This movie is misunderstood. It’s a beautiful message and Belle is a great role model. I ran this VHS ragged as a kid lol.

  • @sallyjrwjrw6766

    @sallyjrwjrw6766

    7 ай бұрын

    Same. Belle is my role model: kind, intelligent, and confident.

  • @nancy6746
    @nancy6746 Жыл бұрын

    See I hate that people say that this story is just Stockholm syndrome, it’s so much more than that. It’s seeing people for who they truly are, not for what they look like or how they present themselves to people they don’t trust or know. It’s a beautiful story of a girl giving everything for her father and a beast trying his best to make it comfortable for her and being influenced for the better by her kindness and her true heart. It’s him learning that putting those whose who you love needs before your own. Yes, he started by being selfish but her influence helps him grow and learn the lessons he needed to know; he is better for simply knowing her and her genuine self.

  • @cmm5542

    @cmm5542

    Жыл бұрын

    Beautifully put.

  • @mars_mayday
    @mars_mayday2 жыл бұрын

    The thing I love about Belle's relationship with her father is that he is equally willing to sacrifice his life for her as she is for him. He was willing to die as a captive so she wouldn't take her place, and she didn't care how old he was - she wasn't going to let that happen. I imagine she learned what love really means because of the example he set for her. For me, this movie is just as much about the legacy of love as it is about redemption.

  • @GrizzneyGames

    @GrizzneyGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is a fantastic point! All my life, I had never thought about that before.

  • @rimjhimdhusiya699

    @rimjhimdhusiya699

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think she also learned how to be her authentic self from her father as well since her father is also considered a freak for doing things not the town's way but his way and he too never changes too despite everybody mocking him :)

  • @hellopumpkin86

    @hellopumpkin86

    2 жыл бұрын

    Such an incredible point! It’s sad how many people overlook this beautiful quality about Belle. It set her apart from so many of the more modern princesses and heroines for me!

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    "Gaston is a guy in his 30s, and he's still acting like a high school boy" the sad part is, there are lots of people like Gaston around :(

  • @ArtificialPerson

    @ArtificialPerson

    2 жыл бұрын

    But irl they're not even that good looking 😆 jk

  • @AllyInReality

    @AllyInReality

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you hear older people talking with each other, you'll realize that most pf them felt like they're still a high schooler. And here I thought, I'll grew more mature as time goes by.

  • @queerlibtardhippie9357

    @queerlibtardhippie9357

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AllyInReality That's where you went wrong. You think being mature has any correlation with age.

  • @AllyInReality

    @AllyInReality

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@queerlibtardhippie9357 why do people look down on younger ones then?

  • @ravena.3762

    @ravena.3762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AllyInReality Since they have less experience, people assume they don't have any maturity.

  • @elizabethweigle6146
    @elizabethweigle6146 Жыл бұрын

    I am absolutely OBSESSED with Belle’s hair animation when she’s tending to the Beast’s wounds. I keep rewatching it

  • @katygarner1528
    @katygarner1528 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: “Beauty and the Beast” lost the academy award for best picture to “Silence of the Lambs,” because without a specifically animated category of course it did. A few years later, when the show went to Broadway, Anthony Hopkins co-hosted the Tony Awards, so he narrated and introduced the “Beauty and the Beast” performance of the Broadway cast. That’s one of my favorite instances of entertainment worlds colliding.

  • @WarriorDan
    @WarriorDan2 жыл бұрын

    "Gaston is a guy in his 30s, and he's still acting like a high school boy". This basically sums up Gaston's entire character arc, or lack thereof, in a nutshell.

  • @chloeevans5938

    @chloeevans5938

    2 жыл бұрын

    literally Edward from Twilight lol

  • @_stupidbro

    @_stupidbro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chloeevans5938 😂

  • @bigsistahtips

    @bigsistahtips

    2 жыл бұрын

    The truth of most people out there

  • @amiecrowsong

    @amiecrowsong

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigsistahtips indeed, there are way too many Gastons irl, and that is terrifying

  • @abigailc6873

    @abigailc6873

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@amiecrowsong since that would be the case for most people...I PEFER to stay single🙂

  • @dash2869
    @dash28692 жыл бұрын

    During the song "Belle", there are so few close-ups of her because the song is about how everyone else perceives her: a pretty girl with her nose in a book. The rest of the movie is about revealing who Belle really is, her compassion and bravery and intelligence, which the Beast is the first to really see. This is important because the whole reason for his curse is that he was a shallow prince that turned away an old woman in need of help because she was ugly. He starts to see past the shallow surface of Belle as a pretty girl with her nose in a book to fall in love with the person she really is underneath.

  • @Vael221

    @Vael221

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps a sad bit of irony that for a movie about seeing past a shallow perception of people, the most common impression people spread is a shallow reading of the story.

  • @isisbeatriz9110

    @isisbeatriz9110

    2 жыл бұрын

    amazing interpretation

  • @bethany9296

    @bethany9296

    2 жыл бұрын

    Belle is more about the town and the ways everyone interacts with her, belle reprise is belle herself speaking and actually her own person showing 💙 i love it

  • @joygernautm6641

    @joygernautm6641

    2 жыл бұрын

    But the real question is, with the beast have given belle a “chance” if she was ugly looking like he is??? This movie plays into the male female double standard very very heavily

  • @McCammalot

    @McCammalot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joygernautm6641 I think at least in the Disney version he wouldn't have much of a choice as there was a wilting rose waiting to kill him. Somebody (somebody marriageable) needed to love him in a matter of *days* , he was not in any position to be picky. The fairy tale version varies. A lot of it is based more on her unselfishness-her sisters aren't ugly, they're greedy. And in the *real* original tale, Cupid and Psyche, from Roman times, her mortal beauty is immaterial; she is kept in the dark, and later punished for her curiosity in trying to see Cupid's face instead of having faith (and letting her family convince her that he must be monstrous or why would he keep everything dark?), in addition to actual god Cupid being hotter than her. (C.S. Lewis of Narnia fame wrote a version of Cupid and Psyche based on even earlier Estuscan lore where Psyche was outright unattractive but smart and sensible, which was why Cupid chose her, if I remember correctly. "Till We Have Faces" )

  • @howlingarmadillo
    @howlingarmadillo Жыл бұрын

    Honestly my only real issue with this film is that I've always liked how Adam looks better when he's a beast than when he 's a person. His design was so friggin cool!

  • @Raztiana

    @Raztiana

    Жыл бұрын

    You're not alone. He's so beautiful as the Beast, and there's just something about those horns....

  • @Karyn1408

    @Karyn1408

    Жыл бұрын

    And to think that Glen Keane got his inspiration from Michelangelo's David to make the prince's design. As a second detail, Gary Trousdale confirmed that he hates the name Adam and that he never had a name.

  • @justahuman9273

    @justahuman9273

    Жыл бұрын

    I am in the minority that thinks he looks beautiful as a human xD

  • @lidia_gomez

    @lidia_gomez

    Жыл бұрын

    I curiously thought this too, LOL...all this fuss about the last petal...to this? 🤨🤣🤣🤣

  • @PS-dm1dq

    @PS-dm1dq

    Жыл бұрын

    His name's not Adam.

  • @WiscoKnight0806
    @WiscoKnight0806 Жыл бұрын

    The scene where Belle and the Beast are dancing, that swooping shot across the ceiling and back down, is my absolute favorite scene. When you think about what it took to animate something like that, is incredible and awe inspiring.

  • @genevieva_b
    @genevieva_b2 жыл бұрын

    finally! i'm so tired of ppl just writing the whole story off as completely toxic and a total "Stockholm syndrome" thing. i've always thought of it as the first Disney princess movie to actually show the characters gradually grow to love each other, instead of the whole "love at first sight" stuff. i also disagree with the idea of Belle trying to "cure him with her love". that's just not what happened. she only started warming up to the Beast after a positive change in his behaviour.

  • @Magnulus76

    @Magnulus76

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course it has to be more realistic, the original story is a morality tale of premodern French expectations of marriage, when most marriages were arranged.

  • @sharlebrooks7406

    @sharlebrooks7406

    Жыл бұрын

    He did kidnap her, though lol.

  • @genevieva_b

    @genevieva_b

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sharlebrooks7406 she did still have a lot of agency in this though. she offered herself in exchange for her father's freedom (yes, under the pressure of the situation, but no one demanded it from her), she had the means to escape, she could have left after the wolf fight instead of bringing the Beast back to the castle.

  • @Unownshipper

    @Unownshipper

    Жыл бұрын

    The worst thing about the people who cry "Stockholm Syndrome" is that they have no idea what the condition actually is. As these guys established, it is *not* "hostage falls in romantic love with their captor." Yet every asshole thinks they're suddenly a licensed therapist and qualified to describe this despite doing zero research. It's the worst type of misappropriated and misunderstood pop psychology right up there with dream therapy and ink blot tests.

  • @sharlebrooks7406

    @sharlebrooks7406

    Жыл бұрын

    @@genevieva_b that does not negate the fact that he captured her father and then took her captive lol.

  • @MissesSisters
    @MissesSisters2 жыл бұрын

    A point that was kinda glossed over in this video is that Belle tells him that he shouldlearn to control his temper and in the end when she arrives and sees Gaston attaching the beast, there is also the realization that he finally is in control of his temper.

  • @yabserabetsuan5124

    @yabserabetsuan5124

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also something I noticed is that after that scene where Belle helps clean up his wound, Beast never yells again. At anyone, even Gaston. He sternly but quietly tells him "get out" instead of screaming at him the way he did Belle earlier

  • @daniellemusella1594

    @daniellemusella1594

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yabserabetsuan5124 Wow. I can't believe I didn't pick up on that before. Nice catch. (7/25/2022)

  • @missamieholly2313

    @missamieholly2313

    Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU

  • @sameerakhan7455

    @sameerakhan7455

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daniellemusella1594 I didn't as well. I'm surprised as this is one of my most watched Disney movies (though I haven't watched any lately besides Encanto) It's interesting how you wrote the date of when you replied to them. May I ask why you wrote the date?

  • @daniellemusella1594

    @daniellemusella1594

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sameerakhan7455 To remember when it happened. I like to think back to what, if anything, about my life was different then. (9/15/2022)

  • @bat7696
    @bat7696 Жыл бұрын

    Say what you want about the "problematic" theme in beauty and the beast of Belle's imprisonment, there's something compelling about a story of falling for someone who doesn't feel like they deserve love, because the world tells them they're a monster. And them learning from the example of that person's kindness, how to be kind in turn. With no expectation of anything in return, because they're finally realising they aren't the horrible the thing they were made to feel like. I think it's a story that, when told right, can be so relatable and - in a sense - revolutionary for typical film love stories.

  • @skippymagrue
    @skippymagrue Жыл бұрын

    The animated version is so much better than the live version. Timing is everything.

  • @gabriellagalli8564

    @gabriellagalli8564

    5 ай бұрын

    The song Evermore is still a catchy af though.

  • @SaraLovelace1
    @SaraLovelace12 жыл бұрын

    As to the "why 'wife' and not just 'conquest'?" question: Gaston's a hunter. An apex predator. It's literally the very first thing established about him. He doesn't just want a notch on his bedpost, he wants a permanent trophy that he can take possession of. There's also the subversion of the Disney Prince trope in this movie. In any other Disney movie, Gaston would be the love interest; good looking, has the respect and adoration of the townspeople, protects them from wild beasts, and "loves" the protagonist. In any other Disney movie, he would marry the princess. And Gaston's entitlement comes from that genre savvy viewpoint just as much as his narcissism. He doesn't understand, genuinely, what Belle's issue with him is. He's the Hero. The Hero gets the girl. The Prince marries the Princess etc.

  • @seraphim108

    @seraphim108

    Жыл бұрын

    dang, that last paragraph. I didn't realize just how much Gaston truly fits into the "handsome hero" trope that's usually set out there. How the story could've easily fit the whole "sLigHtLy arrogant/cocky hero/prince does xyz impressive thing, maybe/maybe not changes a little, and wins the girl that initially rejected him" type thing even if he's kinda a shit person and the girl should've dropped him. really makes me appreciate the movie even more, I wonder how surprising this would've been at the time considering quite a bit of movies would've had a Gaston type charecter as the love interest.

  • @emilyd1643

    @emilyd1643

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seraphim108 exactly! That is why for the most part I do not enjoy watching movies such as sleeping beauty or the little mermaid or Cinderella because it just shows a relationship that does not have a strong base and all of these characters fall in love either at first sight or within a couple conversations / days. Sadly, most romance movies are like this but I find that these disney movies especially tend to follow the narrative of the prince saves the helpless princess. Contrastly, I love the movies The Princess and The Frog, Mulan, Moana, and Frozen (even though anna annoyed me a lot in the first movie lol) because it shows that you do not have to wait around for someone to save you and instead can be independent and happy while accomplishing great things :D Edit: typo

  • @annastevens1526

    @annastevens1526

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a control thing, too. In the era and country where this tale is set, marriage essentially gives the husband total legal OWNERSHIP of a wife. He can beat her, take her kids away, use all her money, whatever. So Gaston is aiming to completely control Belle's life - almost to an even worse degree than what the Beast is doing at the start of their interactions.

  • @jorgebersabe293

    @jorgebersabe293

    Жыл бұрын

    In other words: Gaston looks like the stereotypical Disney Hero, but his personality is far from being heroic.

  • @jorgebersabe293

    @jorgebersabe293

    Жыл бұрын

    @@annastevens1526 As the movie emphasizes a lot, Gaston is what The Beast could have become if the Enchantress never cursed him. Before his curse, the Beast was exactly like Gaston: Arrogant, spoiled, selfish and unkind, without any love in his heart. The Beast looks like a monster, but is heroic, kind, protective and daring. Gaston looks like a man, but is ruthless, brutish, selfish and psychopathic.

  • @RuSa_Frantic
    @RuSa_Frantic2 жыл бұрын

    Unrelated but I love how Alan is geeking over the movie details. It's so fascinating to listen to passionate people like Alan and Jonathan, and it's one of the reasons why I genuinely love this channel. Besides crying with Alan, of course. 😂

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too, since Alan is a professional filmmaker, it makes sense that he'd be more attuned to spotting easily missed details!

  • @MiguelHernandez-yq4sl

    @MiguelHernandez-yq4sl

    2 жыл бұрын

    #cryingwithAlan absolutely the best section ever

  • @marianamora4203

    @marianamora4203

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's really nice to have someone who knows about film who isn't an animator actually deeply appreciate animation as a medium equal to live action filmmaking. I had a homeroom teacher in high school who who also taught film who did not watch anything animated because he didn't see there was any worthwhile in doing so. I lost all respect for that teacher that day.

  • @_stupidbro

    @_stupidbro

    2 жыл бұрын

    #cryingwithAlan

  • @ilovelittlemix4034

    @ilovelittlemix4034

    2 жыл бұрын

    #cryingwithalan

  • @aarspi
    @aarspi Жыл бұрын

    What I like about the scene where Beast gives Belle the library is that it’s not on him wanting to try and gain love points, he gave it to her because he was grateful. And he wouldn’t know it’d be such a major gesture because he grew up in privilege and wouldn’t know a small gift.

  • @ashleyn.4114
    @ashleyn.4114 Жыл бұрын

    I love how kind you were to this movie. Belle was always one of my favorite princesses, and it is sad to see how much hate this movie gets. Thank you for pointing the beautiful and meaningful parts of the movie!

  • @owl7072
    @owl70722 жыл бұрын

    I kinda like how Belle goes about the place while reading because it shows that she's _not kidding_ when she says "every morning's just the same" in the town, it's to a point she can maneuver her way through it without once looking up from her book that she's completely absorbed in. Edit: I'm sorry but the way Beast runs in the movie sometimes is _sending_ me

  • @agatarak6075

    @agatarak6075

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a neat observation, it's really true!

  • @MissCaraMint

    @MissCaraMint

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I got that too.

  • @rhaenyralikesyoutube6289

    @rhaenyralikesyoutube6289

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nine Inch Nail's Everyday Is Exactly The Same plays in my head from this comment. 🤣🤣

  • @manasa908

    @manasa908

    2 жыл бұрын

    the way he runs during the snowball fight 😭😭

  • @owl7072

    @owl7072

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manasa908 that's the _exact_ scene I was watching when I made the edit lmao

  • @hiraphane
    @hiraphane2 жыл бұрын

    8:26 something I didn't bat an eye at as a child that now as an adult makes me deeply uncomfortable... the way Gaston just let's himself into Belle's home and then continuously encroaches in on her personal space even when she makes it very clear (see: taking multiple steps back for every one step forwards Gaston takes towards her- and later even taking care to place pieces of furniture between the two of them, like the table and the rocking chair) that she isn't comfortable with him being so close to her. Nevermind that he then quite literally *pins her* into the corner, and then pins her *again* even after she dodges him the first time. It's an animated children's movie, so I know nothing bad is going to happen, but imagining being in Belle's position in a reality that isn't bound by those rules is absolutely terrifying.

  • @qwmx

    @qwmx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I cringed when I was a 9 yr old (first time seeing this movie). I understood personal space and could see Belle was uncomfortable back then. I think it was instinctive because everything he did was wrong like how he entered the house and was clearly invading Belle's personal space, something which I know people generally don't do to each other and Belle didn't look comfortable.

  • @hiraphane

    @hiraphane

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@qwmx As a kid I was definitely thinking "Wow rude - personal space, man, could you not?" but I wasn't thinking about how actually threatening that would be from the standpoint of Belle knowing that she wouldn't be able to physically overpower Gaston in order to get away from him if it came down to it. Now that I'm older and know what it feels like to have a man that size coming on to you so strongly, and how small and helpless that can make you feel... it's a whole different brand of discomfort.

  • @sarahk5412

    @sarahk5412

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was in that situation once and looking back I realize I handled it the way Belle did, which is to say poorly - trying to stay nice and not set him off in any way, instead of saying screw it and getting out.

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gaston was part of the reason I couldn't stand the animated movie even as a kid actually 😅 i never finished until i was much older

  • @qwmx

    @qwmx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hiraphane I wondered why she didn't act a bit more aggressive and assertive. Even at the age of 9, I knew how to set and maintain my boundaries. I was also aware that if you let potentially dangerous things get too close to you, you are less likely to escape it (e.g. dogs), so I was cautious of a lot of things. Now that I'm older I guess she didn't want to exacerbate the situation or the potential danger her position poses to her did not immediately register to her, so she was going along with it while keeping herself safe. If I were her I would have told him to fuck off, but this was a different time and you're forced to get along with people back then.

  • @_grumpytoad
    @_grumpytoad Жыл бұрын

    This has long been my favorite Disney movie. As an adult, when everyone fell into the "yeah, but it stockholm syndrome" perspective, I never knew how to counter that. Until now! So thank you for giving me ammunition with which to defend my favorite Disney film! 😁

  • @RocketJo86
    @RocketJo86 Жыл бұрын

    I always saw Belle as the most positive of the classical disney princesses in every way - but yet the most underrated as well, probably because she is just not "girly" enough, but actually challenges a lot of notions about "being a good female". What I never realized before are two things. 1) The human beast doesn't look pretty, as compared to his beast form. I always found this frustrating as a kid - I mean, shouldn't she be rewarded with a handsome guy? But now I realized that there is some meaning in it as well. Even after his resurrection it is still about the character, not the looks. They actually made a good point on that. 2) Belle really stands out in the opening song. The whole village is muddy and brown and yellow-ish. Even Gaston, who is wearing bright colors, falls with his red and black into the over-all color theme. But Belle in her blue and white dress really shines in between the villagers. Like literally. She is easy to spot in every wide shot, underlining her relationship with the town. And her dress doesn't get sullied when she is wiping the mud from the book cover. Like she doesn't let Gaston influence her at all. I don't even know if this is on purpose or not, but if then it is peak symbolism.

  • @zvezdoblyat

    @zvezdoblyat

    9 ай бұрын

    Human beast was bloody hideous, I was so disgusted as a kid, lol. Maybe that's why I prefer the book to the film

  • @whosahassa

    @whosahassa

    9 ай бұрын

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; I think the Beast's human form is quite attractive. 😉

  • @sallyjrwjrw6766

    @sallyjrwjrw6766

    7 ай бұрын

    There's a KZread video called Why the prince looks so weird" and it's mostly because his eyes are too far apart. Also, the shadows weren't right and he's breaking the fourth wall. The rough draft of the prince looks so much better.

  • @banditsspies6759
    @banditsspies67592 жыл бұрын

    Cursing an entire castle for the sake of one person is an accurate representation of the hardship that having a person like beast can have on a family or community who is invested in them. Their struggles are yours and yiu go through their humbling together.

  • @emilysragz

    @emilysragz

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is an interesting point. The beast does seem narcissistic at first, though the problem with redemption stories in pop-culture is when a narcissist goes through a redemption it gives survivors of narcissistic abuse hope that their narcissist will change too. Most narcissistic people won't change because most narcissists don't think there is anything wrong with them. It gets confusing because deep down narcissistic people carry a lot of shame and at their core they are very insecure but it's like their coping mechanism is to lie to themselves and others that they are the best. Those narcissists that go to therapy usually go to please someone who is threatening to leave them (a.k.a. taking away "narcissistic supply") and sometimes they go and try to learn how to be more empathic from a therapist so they can manipulate people further. It's a great film until you realize that not everyone is capable of change. Gaston never changes making him a true narcissist and his death is basically like the beast killing his old self. The major problem I have with this movie is not about "Stockholm Syndrome" but about the redemption story that is constantly used in the media to make it seem like narcissists can easily change. Sure some people are capable of change but they usually aren't narcissistic people. It's a hard pill to swallow for most people which is why most victims of narcissistic abuse have difficulty leaving or moving on. Most people want to see good in people and hope everyone is capable of change. I like to surround myself with people who are not only empathic but seem to embrace change and are willing to grow.

  • @amypieterse4127

    @amypieterse4127

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting insight. Never thought of that.

  • @user-hv1lv9tl7c

    @user-hv1lv9tl7c

    2 жыл бұрын

    i like to think about it like it represents Beasts selfish personality. Everybody in his life is just a property and furniture and tools for him

  • @NalaS

    @NalaS

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow never thought of it that way

  • @pinkcupcake4717

    @pinkcupcake4717

    2 жыл бұрын

    One member of the family, especially one so harmful, brings the entire house down with them.

  • @saphirarose5866
    @saphirarose58662 жыл бұрын

    I love that Gaston's title is "No-Belle prize winner" in the captions 🤣

  • @asvpreis

    @asvpreis

    2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't resist! XD

  • @theakaneko

    @theakaneko

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also "book thief"... I had to send to my besties like "omg you guys! 1. Great vid. 2. Watch with cc... it makes it better!"

  • @asvpreis

    @asvpreis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theakaneko Thank you so much for sharing the video. It means a lot to us!

  • @KristenRowenPliske

    @KristenRowenPliske

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO I didn’t see that!

  • @marallenrondez2606

    @marallenrondez2606

    2 жыл бұрын

    I noticed "Gastoff" and "Gastnever" too

  • @desyxd4400
    @desyxd4400 Жыл бұрын

    I used to do the read n’ walk from the library in kindergarten. A kid got in trouble for not looking where he was going, and walking into someone. When the teacher scolded him, he complained, “But Destiny’s doing it!” The teacher responded with, “Well she can do it while keeping up, and doesn’t run into anyone.” 😂😂😂

  • @indigoziona
    @indigoziona Жыл бұрын

    This inspired me to rewatch the film as it was one of my favourites as a child - thank you! I forgot how delightful the animation is and the acting and character design are just wonderful. A few things I noticed on the re-watch: Beast does a surprised look when Belle thanks him for saving her life... like he's suddenly thinking, "I did what? ...Did I do something good?" The "he's my friend" moment also feels really significant, because we know Belle didn't have any friends in the village (beyond that nice old bookseller, what a lovely man :) ). She really wants "to have someone understand" and she really feels Beast understands her in a way that the people from the village haven't - there's a couple of nice shots of them reading together, which suggests she's been able to share her love of books and stories with him. I think there's always a delicate line when a story could be interpreted as problematic 'but it's ok cause she likes it'... You know, there's a dark brooding hero, but the heroine is into him so it's ok? I like how Belle *doesn't* tolerate Beast's intimidating behaviour - I think she sees that she's genuinely upset him in the West Wing but while she apologises for her overstepping, she refuses to stay to be roared at, and later reminds him to control his temper. She becomes happy at the castle when he takes the time to show a softer and gentler side to her... and even then, as much as it's a lovely adventure, she misses her father. There's a heart-rending moment when Beast realises he needs to let her go because it seems like the moment he's finally achieved the goal of learning to love he realises that when you love someone, you value their happiness above your own self-interest, and no sooner does he realise this than he has to put it into action. And in general I love how tenderly and gently he treats Belle after the wolf incident and wound scene. I feel like when rewatching it's obvious that there is a vulnerable side to him even early on, but when he dares to let Belle see this side of him, everything gets better.

  • @virginiasultana3654
    @virginiasultana36542 жыл бұрын

    People, if you watch this without captions, you are missing out. The captioner has so many different nicknames for Gaston it is hilarious! Gastoff, Gastno, Gastnever, and the best is No-Belle Prize Winner!

  • @monabohamad2242

    @monabohamad2242

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol the last one 😂

  • @watchingvideosnow

    @watchingvideosnow

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for pointing out! Didn't know this :)

  • @insertianameia2224

    @insertianameia2224

    2 жыл бұрын

    This show always has great closed captions.

  • @mackhiggins4731

    @mackhiggins4731

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also Gastout. 🤣 Thanks~

  • @afrarunduml1170

    @afrarunduml1170

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! The Captions on the Twilight Saga were hilarious! Sparklyboy, Wolfy...

  • @catherinelempke8451
    @catherinelempke84512 жыл бұрын

    I like how, in the library scene, Beasts' eyes are all for Belle - he doesn't look around the library, he just wants to see her happiness, because it makes him happy.

  • @ShadowyFox_86

    @ShadowyFox_86

    Жыл бұрын

    I love that he's not giving her something in exchange for her liking him. He's giving her something just because she likes that thing.

  • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme

    @itsgonnabeanaurfromme

    Жыл бұрын

    It's his library, why would he look at it? I think he's seen it before.

  • @chantekiddo2293

    @chantekiddo2293

    Жыл бұрын

    Also the big smile on his face when doing so, since like you said it's something that will make her happy and he's happy for her happiness

  • @HeidiLynOVeran

    @HeidiLynOVeran

    Жыл бұрын

    True

  • @loststar2375

    @loststar2375

    Жыл бұрын

    Man, the details in the movie are SO GOOD

  • @Zazabazaa
    @Zazabazaa Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I've been so sick and tired of people saying that Belle just has Stolkholm Syndrome, COMPLETELY ignoring what the character growth ACTUALLY was!! I even took someone through the definition of what Stolkholm Syndrome is and then went over how Belle doesn't fall into those categories even if it looks like she does, and they STILL insisted that I was the one who didn't understand! Of course, this is going by the definition that people normally use, not the one that you later gave. Which I do agree with, cuz by the logic of "I don't see my captor as a one dimensional bad guy but instead as a multifaceted human for whom I can have empathy for" then yea, she has that... but I just hate how people assume that her relationship is her just being manipulated

  • @jkb9211

    @jkb9211

    Жыл бұрын

    The whole idea of Stockholm Syndrome (at least it's origin) is bull anyway. A couple of bank robbers ended up with 4 hostages in a bank vault and the cops did increasingly dumb things (see: randomly firing shots, sending in an associate of the first robber and thus gaining a second robber, attempting to send in an alleged suspects brother to talk him down (spoiler: not his brother because they had the wrong suspect identification), locking them in a vault with their hostages) to end the standoff, to the point that the hostages felt more threatened by the cops than the dudes holding them hostage. And because it's obviously absurd to trust your captor more than the police, the police psychologist decides that they must be crazy.

  • @anunaskedforopinion
    @anunaskedforopinion Жыл бұрын

    8:24 I love this little animation moment here. Some animated movies are so lazy and only give their characters the most basic expressions needed to get the point across. But the nose wrinkles they draw for Belle in this scene are so real and I love them.

  • @lindsaymorrison7519
    @lindsaymorrison75192 жыл бұрын

    It is also possible that the objects that cannot speak were all animals. We know the ottoman was a dog, so maybe the 9,000 plates and forks are all ants or something. When the curse lifts, they're going to need pest control.

  • @always_rio

    @always_rio

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @Charlotte8591

    @Charlotte8591

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought they were the servants and cleaners of the kitchen.

  • @rahbeeuh

    @rahbeeuh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Charlotte8591 Mrs. Potts was a cook/servant so that doesn't stick

  • @user-bx4ti6ig3i

    @user-bx4ti6ig3i

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even the roaches were cursed. 🤣

  • @caitbarry9617

    @caitbarry9617

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always figured that, not only did the curse turn the servants into objects but it also bought the objects to life. So when the people turn back into people, the forks just turn back into forks.

  • @LeilaAMMartin
    @LeilaAMMartin2 жыл бұрын

    I think Gaston wanting a wife specifically is about ownership and control. Especially in this medieval-France situation, "wife" infers a degree of ownership that "girlfriend" or "conquest" don't. And he's so full of himself that he doesn't even care what she wants. It's totally fine if my wife finds me repugnant, as long as I own her and can tell her what to do. As long as she's MINE.

  • @melanief4115

    @melanief4115

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not medieval but yes

  • @sarahk5412

    @sarahk5412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @petal drops actually in the stage musical he's actively pursuing them as side pieces, even after declaring his intentions to marry Belle.

  • @msk-qp6fn

    @msk-qp6fn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent point!!

  • @skyhideaway
    @skyhideaway Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! It always bugged me so much that people labelled this relationship as "problematic" and "toxic" (but then, the internet throws around the word "toxic" way too much). If Belle started blushing or showing signs of romantic love when the Beast was being a jerk and verbally abusive then yes, that's toxic. But Belle had no qualms about setting her boundaries or escaping an unhealthy situation. I've even seen people claim that Gaston, the narcissistic misogynistic incel, was a better suitor for Belle than the Beast. Like, how could you watch the entire movie and still go "yeah, Gaston is so nice"? The Beast was an awful person at first but the whole point of the movie is to show how he redeems himself. Gaston and the Beast are foils to each other - while they both start off as selfish and aggressive, the Beast learns to show compassion, to love Belle and in turn, love himself; while Gaston digs himself deeper and deeper into the hole where he thinks he's right about everything and he deserves to snatch whatever he wants with no regards to people around him, which ultimately ends in his downfall (pun intended). People really just want to act as if older Disney movies were lame because the female characters were kind and empathetic (and hence, "not strong and independent" because we all know that strength = physical power), or because the story had a nice romance in it. Also the way books in this movie was treated took away half of my lifespan lmao

  • @foolslayer9416
    @foolslayer9416 Жыл бұрын

    14:07 This is actually interesting. I don't know why, but I often find myself empathizing for characters that hate themselves.

  • @PCGaijin80
    @PCGaijin802 жыл бұрын

    On this weird starting points for animated relationships topic, Howl's Moving Castle would be so interesting to look at. Would love to see what you guys think :)

  • @mayakane9978

    @mayakane9978

    2 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE THIS!

  • @BibbleRp

    @BibbleRp

    2 жыл бұрын

    YESSSS

  • @sreekutty_rajesh1324

    @sreekutty_rajesh1324

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course! I would love that.

  • @carmenks6974

    @carmenks6974

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boost!

  • @katrinedda1107

    @katrinedda1107

    2 жыл бұрын

    YES OMG

  • @TheIntimateAvenger
    @TheIntimateAvenger2 жыл бұрын

    The beast did not deserve to be cursed, at least not in this version of the story. He was eleven when he was cursed. They never stated his age but some simple math reveals it. “The rose will bloom until his twenty first year” and “For ten years we’ve been rusting”. I think an eleven year old kid should refuse to let a scary stranger into his home.

  • @courtneysheffield6336

    @courtneysheffield6336

    2 жыл бұрын

    True but Prince Adam could have been polite and let the woman stay for a night or two kindness goes a long way Prince Adam was rude spoiled and unkind prince that deserved punishment and she is an enchantress

  • @ChaosRocket

    @ChaosRocket

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@courtneysheffield6336 So if a random stranger knocked on your door you'd really let them stay in your house for a night or two?

  • @courtneysheffield6336

    @courtneysheffield6336

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaosRocket yes I would because there is nothing wrong with being kind and helpful

  • @MirrimBlackfox

    @MirrimBlackfox

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaosRocket You are making a false equivalence, the prince was in no danger from the old beggar woman (he had guards and such) and it would be expected that a traveler asking for shelter, actually offering a token payment, would be at least be given a meal, someplace to wash up, and a place to sleep (usually, in a hay loft, with the servants, or some other warm out of the way place) as part of the obligations of being a Noble/Royal. The Prince was a landed Prince, it would be expected that he would shelter travelers.

  • @SpicyGrape7

    @SpicyGrape7

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel the curse was a bit extreme for a child, but the time period was a bit brutal. He doesn’t have much in the way of a role model from what we see as none of the servants stand up to him (understandably so) and he’s been isolated from anyone other than the servants. He’s bitter and feeling hopeless, so it’s interesting how his humanity doesn’t fully leave, but is sort of shut out of his mentality until he gets to know Belle and realizes being stuck as he says “a monster” is worth it to release any obligation from Belle because she herself has done nothing to warrant it.

  • @catherinegilbert5951
    @catherinegilbert5951 Жыл бұрын

    Is no one going to address the fact the the sorceress cursed an 11 year old boy for not letting her into his home? Logistically a prince wouldn't be answering the door himself but for real she cursed the entire castle over a boy being an entitled brat? Also something that is never addressed in either version is what happened to the beast's father the king? I believe (while not stated in the movie but shown in the credits) his name is Prince Adam because even if he was dead regardless of age Beast/Adam should be King even with a regency until he's of age and if he's alive where is he and why wasn't he cursed with a worse fate than his son?

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    That was indeed never addressed at all. But my guess is that Adam's father never was a king, but he was the head of a local principality.

  • @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Furienna Doesn't matter. In the era which the story takes place, lords & ladies were expected to grant food & lodging to the needy. Sacred hospitality & all of that.

  • @Furienna

    @Furienna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TherealRNOwwfpooh Right, but that's not what I was talking about. I was only explaining what I think is the right title for Adam's father.

  • @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    @TherealRNOwwfpooh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Furienna Well, I doubt he was the King of overall France, since he would've been much more well-known and there would've been multiple search parties looking for him if that were the case, so I agree with your assessment that The Beast's father was still a high-ranking nobleman and acting ruler of whatever principality he ruled over, but he was no king. The _Enchanted Christmas_ holiday midquel & the 2017 live-action remake both fill in this missing backstory plot point by outright stating that Prince Adam's parents were dead. Yet, Adam's not a king, because he was only a 11 year old bratty child when he was cursed in the animated film canon (as confirmed by lines in "The Prologue", "Be Our Guest", and "Human Again", as well as reinforced in the _Enchanted Christmas_ holiday midquel courtesy of a flashback), whereas he was seemingly a fairly young adult in the 2017 live-action remake when Agatha cursed him, yet there was still the concept of time passing, so that puts his live-action counterpart's specific age into question, since he should've been crowned King Adam once he came of age if he were an adult.

  • @ellerymerrilycelery

    @ellerymerrilycelery

    Жыл бұрын

    Mate, it's a fairy tale. Yes, it's stupid, but it's _not the point of the movie._ The live-action remake tried to address and fix these criticisms, and ruined everything as a result.

  • @margaretschaufele6502
    @margaretschaufele6502 Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you showed one of my favorite scenes in its entirety: when Beast gifts Belle the library. I love this scene because he looks so excited just to do something that he hopes she will like. And I don't think it has ulterior motives. Yes he is hoping that she might be able to break the curse, but its shown that his hopes on this are not terribly high. But in the previous scene, he's watching her interact with her horse and playing with the dog/foot rest, he touches the bandage she's put on his injured arm and declares that he wants to do something for her. I always thought that he wanted to repay her kindness for tending to his injury. He simply says "I wanna do something for her! But what?" and he gets advice. Thankfully Lumiere remembered how interested Belle was in their library. I always thought that before the reveal, Beast went with the servants to clean up the library so it would show at its best. Then he acts like a kid on Christmas morning, but it's a present for her! I also liked that when they're interacting to feed the birds, he's probably with her because he wants to spend time with her, but it's not faked interest. He actually starts trying to feed the birds himself and when unsuccessful, Belle helps him with a little encouragement and he's so happy when the birds actually start to trust him rather than fear him. Unrelated but the whole segment of the servants fighting off the angry mob of villagers is the best! Also, every time I see the transformation scene, his hand reminds me of Renaissance art, like the sculpture of the David.

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