Many thanks for your advice.

4s 2200mah lipo 243grams all the way forward. Still had to add 1/2 oz of lead in the nose to cg ans. Velcro under the battery. 43 successful flights. Cheers mate 👍

@Bellairvideo

8 күн бұрын

Well done mate.

You should fly this plane on aileron and elevator only. Use the Rudder/ differential thrust only for special manoeuvres like flat spins. I had to add around 40g extra weight in the nose for correct CG. Now it`s a great flier.

Many thanks indeed for your great explanation. I do have velcro on all batteries. Appreciate your advice

What is your yaw gyro doing when you rotate the plane without throttle on? Could have the motor wires backwards for the yaw gyro which is making the jet roll. Also did you throttle calibrate the ESC’s

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Hi there, the gyro seems to work as i move it but not as severe as say a Spektrum safe AR630 type. I expected , after reading all the enclosed paperwork, that it was ready to fly with the suggested CG utilised. I was told by the seller RC Castle, after my concerns, that the gyro will be good. But not so. Once i checked the servos & motors were working ok i therefore did not look at the wiring… just trusted the model to fly…like all my other 40 aircraft. You can see that i did get it to fly for a short time.

This is one of the easiest wings to fly, you just have to set it up right. Going by your battery and placement, you didn't have CG set up correctly and I'm sure that would've caused you issues. I would also suggest flying it in Stabilise Mode, not Lock Mode. I also found it very "sensitive" when flying in Lock Mode, but nowhere near as difficult as it looked in this video. Just make sure the LED in the gyro is constantly on (not flashing) and the plane flies like a dream. As for CG, I added some nose weight and made sure it CG'd as per the manual. The result is a solid flying wing capable of 178kph, almost unlimited vertical and about 5min flight time from a 2200 4S (with mixed throttle use). The differential thrust is not to be used for steering the plane, it's purely made for stunt work and some tricks, and should be used when you are way up high. I actually dialled down the rudder rates to 50% and gave it about 30% expo. This allows me to do hammer head turns on the apex of vertical climbs and it's a lot of fun to do, you just have to careful when applying the rudder so as not to over do it. Cranking the rudder all the way will cause the wing to flip and roll all over the place, which is also fun to do, but you need a lot of height to allow it to recover. Lastly, I noticed you're mode 2 like me, so you should be throwing the wing over your head and with your left hand, not your right. This will allow you to have your right thumb over the ailerons and elevator as you launch, giving you full control of the aircraft as it leaves your hand. 😉 This wing is amazing and one of the easiest wings to fly I've come across. The gyro is awesome and keeps the wing locked in like it's on rails, regardless if it's calm or windy. Don't give up on it, get your CG right, dial in some rates and expo and you'll see just how good it is. 😎👍

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

What a fantastic effort in explaining your results & help. Appreciate it. I will give it another go with your guide. Thanks indeed 👍👏👏

Dang Noel! Sorry you had a bad time with it man. You're not going to believe this, but Banana Hobby contacted us asking if we wanted to review this. You have me both scared and curious as all get out at the same time! I was waiting to see your vid before I responded...now I HAVE to try it. If I figure it out you know I'll let you know. Hopefully just a set up issue.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

All i can say Adam is that… when I grow up, i want to be a good pilot just like you!!!👨‍✈️ I shall look forward to your flying expertise & just maybe learn something.

I flew mine this morning, man it's so sweet, easy to throw. It's so stable , flew mine with a 4s 3000Mah lipo and get 5min flights

@Bellairvideo

6 ай бұрын

Well done Mikey

I watched your video prior to receiving mine. I had a blast today flying mine with zero issues. It was a gust day but the plane flew well and I even took off from the ground on our asphalt runway. When I got home I ordered more batteries. From what I’ve observed with your video, your battery is not properly secured. Put a Velcro on the battery. Flying wings fly better slightly nose heavy. As soon as you launch your battery slides back and shifts your CG aft making it tail heavy. Put your battery as far forward as possible. Next I added more expo to the elevators. I found it a little sensitive to my liking. I have 50% expo and that made it much smoother to fly. I’ve attached a link to my video as proof that this plane is easy to fly. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4WVy7WweNXgido.htmlfeature=shared

When you throw it the battery moves back, put some velcro under it

@Bellairvideo

Ай бұрын

Many thanks for your suggestion Ruudy🇦🇺🪃🦘

This is one flying wing , I have not had any desire to buy, even before seeing your video Noel, I had a zaggie 2ing back 10 years ago and just don't want another edf one or not..sorry about your problems with it, if I had one it would be in the dustbin at this time , I wish you luck with it,

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Yoy mean, wish me a quick sale on enay Martyn👍😂many thanks for cheering me on!!

Hey Bellairvideo. My son and I got our eagle's this week. They fly like a dream when set up right.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Well done indeed… Father & Son, you are much better pilots than i could ever be

@rcrotorfreak

7 ай бұрын

What you setup to fly like a dream?

What receiver did you go with?

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

A 606 / 6ch spektrum copy

CG is critical. Cancel the differential thrust for now. Did you set radio as standard airplane as mixing is done in gyro. Take the gyro out or turn off, it was difficult to see if it was operating correctly. Good luck. A friend of mine has just received his, will see how that goes before I buy one.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Many thanks Jake. I appreciate it. Let me know how your friend goes. Captain Drone channel did not like this model either. He posted a review.

Took me a few flights to get mine dialed in. I keep my battery all the way up towards the nose for cg. I fly with a spektrum radio and receiver and my rates are Ailerons: high rate 100 mid rate 75 Low rate 55 Elevator: High rate 100 Mid rate 70 Low rate 50 I mainly use ail. - mid 75 and ele. - low 50 I also turned down both gains on the gyro about a 1/16 of a turn and it got rid of the fludder at full speed. Hope this helps you. Good luck.

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Hi mate, really appreciate your help & advice. Well done & a big thank you!✔️🇦🇺

I suspect pitch instability is not your only problem. Your differential thrust looks orders of magnitude too differential, to put it that way. The further off-center your motors are, the less difference you want. I run between 3 and 10 percent differential on conventional twins, and the Eagle should need a lot less out at the wingtips, but it seems to be close to 100 percent when you test it. That can't be good ...

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Hi Henning, it certainly wasn’t a nice flying experience for me. But then i have plenty of regular aircraft & the absolute best wing to fly is the Ultrix 600 from Eflight… straight out of the box!

@Videolinquency

7 ай бұрын

The Ultrix 600 is a great design that would have been perfect for a certain use case that I have, but I fly nothing but waypoint FPV, and find it too fiddly to cut off those UMX type servo connectors and direct solder hair thin wires to a flight controller. However, you recently made me aware of a perfect alternative for that particular use case: Based on your reviews, I ordered a Twin Nova 850, which seems to come with regular connectors. Thanks for that, and happy flying!

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Yes Henning, i love both the 850 & 1.4m nova’s kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWmNzc5sp8SqoaQ.htmlsi=CvUbR-Y0wXDT5QTf You will enjoy the 850

Not recommended to take off and land in that gyro mode. If it senses any yaw the plane will fire left or right motor only. Cause incredible instability at slower speeds. This mode is for crazy 3d aerobatics up high. You can tell if it’s in this mode by holding wing flat and twisting plane left or right like your spinning a bottle. If the motors fire left or right switch off or to another mode. Launch will be much better this way.

@Bellairvideo

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Ted. I will try on the next flight

sorry you had so much trouble, I flew mine three times today (first flight et. al) and with the model CG precisely on the factory position she launches easily and flies great in rate gyro mode. it is IMPOSSIBLE to fly with the gyro off and in angle mode it's not quite tuned by the factory. I love this thing! I did however have to add 2.5oz of weight to the nose as the only 4 cell batteries I had were the long flat 2700-2880mah variety.

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

Many thanks for your advice Tom. I will try with some weigh in the nose. Great you have it ‘tamed’👍🦘🇦🇺

I was having the same issues, it would launch good and then barrel roll in so I ended up disconnecting the thrust vectoring and by passing the gyro. It flies like a dream now. I reduced the elevon throws to about 40% and put in about 50% expo. A plane that flies this fast does not need a lot of elevon movement.....

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

Well done & well worked out. Will try. Thanks indeed

gyro may be reveresed, make no turn until the plane is up to speed

@Bellairvideo

4 ай бұрын

Many thanks Phillip

It’s a dud! Was there any suggestion in the manual, of a launch mode? I only ask because I have a hand launch EDF wing, and the manual strongly recommends a launch mode, (slight elevator up on a switch). I prefer to fly the propeller driven wing that I bought as a trainer, to get familiar with throwing, how a wing behaves, and flying at speed. With the propeller at the front it flies well as soon as it leaves your hand, and doesn’t suck the battery power like a EDF.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Yes you are so right mate. A forward twin prop like the one i posted a few days ago is an excellent flyer… ah, i live & learn!

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Hi KT, i removed the old Christmas video to make a couple of changes. Thanks for watching today. I have sold some of the planes featured. Have a great Christmas mate

Hi, I hoped this Video had a good ending, when YT recommended it to me. :( I ran around 15 Lipos on this plane till now and it doesn't behave like yours. Its kind of the opposit, it flies realy well. You just need a lot of space to land, but I would say its a good characteristic if a plane glides well. What I spotted in your video, that there is a lot of elevator up before you throw it. I'm not sure if its still present when you launch it and if its done by you or the gyro? As you mentioned in the video, I just give it a little toss and than I let it glide for some time. There is no need to give any new commands if its setup correctly. I know it took some success to get comfortable with a plane. But the main problem I would assume, is the way your battery is fixed, because it isn't. It can move around easily. And eventually that is what happened when you climb. It goes to the back and the weight is at the worst point. (in the back) Your packs width is to small for the way of mounting so the strap can't keep it at its position. Just put some Velcro below the Lipo and the bottom. And than put the Lipo in the front as far as you can and check CG. Hopefully you are able to repair it, because its an exciting plane, but in a good way. :)

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Many thanks for your kind reply & help. I did have velcro on the battery as with all my batteries & the set up was as per the instructions. At the same time i also received the Twin Nova 850mm…. See post. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWmNzc5sp8SqoaQ.htmlsi=ODYiGpKGcPyELSJr as i love and fly 35 other jets, Gliders & prop aircraft both huge & small, so i think i will stick to d we hat i am used to for now as each one is very predictable, with the exception of the Eagle. Quite a few gave had problems with this model & i think xfly are trying to get the sales under l. I think it will be a reduced price soon. Dome are putting their own gyro in it to make it more stable. Have fun, so good it is working for you

Have you tried turning just with elevons not the motors.

@Bellairvideo

3 ай бұрын

Have not tried that or flown it since

Noel - sorry to spam you, but thinking about this it is a real shame as XFLY have produced some fantastic flying models, I know you have quite a few yourself, I cannot think How or why they thought this would be a good selling idea !!!...

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Indeed their models are some of the best out there Martyn and i suppose once in a while companies want you to try something different & innovative… and can be a lemon! I will put the ‘squeeze’ on this one though. @US$100 it may be reduced on sale soon.

Hello, You have so many things set up wrong no wonder you can't fly it. First off you have the rudders reversed. Second you have no Velcro to hold the battery in place the strap still let's the battery move and throw off the CG. Next you look like you only have the gyro on a two positions setting the gyro has three positions and you may have to adjust the trim pots on the gyro. Hope this helps you out.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Many thanks. I appreciate your comments. There have been a few videos on this model but not too many positive even from pro flyers ( i am clearly not one) so i will go fly my other 34 models.

@bigbolloxs36

8 ай бұрын

Cheers was just about to fly mine and the rudder wrong way too cheers for the save

Buy a gyro from Motion Rc like Eagle A3 Super 4 Airplane Gyro Standard Edition and she'll fly

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

I thought of ripping the included gyro from X-Fly & pitting in an AR 630 from Spektrum

Flew straight out of the box, bloody brilliant, ordered the other colour

@Bellairvideo

6 ай бұрын

Well done Steve!

@ltdoolittle

6 ай бұрын

@@BellairvideoThanks for the reply Truth is I love it but I have been flying for 50 years😮 so do have a bit of experience. Make sure it’s set up correctly if you can’t, find help, also make sure you start of with reduced control surface movements. C of G to far forward flys badly to far back flys once.

@Bellairvideo

6 ай бұрын

Many thanks Steve. My first flights were with fuel motors in 1964 but have only started again with foam electric around 10 years ago. Regards🇦🇺🦘

I have done… way back

Sorry to see that failed maiden Noel, hope you can sort out the problem and have a better flight...jeff.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Hi there Jeff, many thanks for joining me. I have given up & selling it. Ah well , you have to try these eh

Lol I haven’t seen this fly well yet. Good idea on paper tho.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Yes indeed Cakey… too many negatives so Xfly have released a video on settings. Not for me though

You have it set up wrong, also if you move the wing side to side the motors should turn on . That's what keeps the wing flying straight, also your lipo needs to be all the way forward.

@Bellairvideo

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Mikey. I will try your suggestions & hope to have a better experience😮

Poor plane, first, yo did not even secured the battery second was too tail heavy, the wing flight like a dream in the correct hands.

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

Many thanks mate. One day i hope to be a professional wing flyer like you👍

@maxun1

5 ай бұрын

@@Bellairvideo lol, I’ll been in you shoes too, new plane, hi hopes, haft terrified, specially in maiden, when a I get a new wing , I check cg over and over, I make sure the battery will not slide back and put 3 rates, and watch many many videos. If you see some good pilots they did crash like 4 times before the got this wing in the air.

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

You are so right. Just posting another tonight. So hopefully no bad flights at the beach👏👀

check out this guy he exolains alot,,,,,, This RC Plane is a NIGHTMARE to Fly - X-FLY EAGLE TWIN 40mm CAPTAIN DRONE Subscribe

Can you do a tutorial on connecting twin motors to a gyro lots of us wanna do a scratch build..😂😂😂

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

G’day to you. I did not have much success with this model but i believe there are others on youtube that have covered this . Regards

@Truthtellor-vh4ke

5 ай бұрын

​@@Bellairvideoyes you did....... You had success when you wanted to oo.. I'm an RC model glider pilot and scratch builder for 40 years.....

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

Love Gliders.I have three 2.5, 2m, 1.5@@Truthtellor-vh4ke

That’s a different craft.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Certainly is & unforgiving

For what its worth. your CG is too far back. Even with a 2200 4s i needed 50g of lead in the nose to balance properly. My 1st flight looked similar to that, although i used lock mode to launch and it flew away fine. Thats when the fun started, any elevator input and it would snap up or down violently. I nursed it round in to some weeds and added the 50g of weight. The next flight and all subsequent flights have been fantastic. make sure your rudder spins the correct motor i.e left rudder should spin right motor etc...and use lock mode to launch. Best of luck :)

@Bellairvideo

7 ай бұрын

Very well explained Tom i really appreciate your help in this. Thank you mate.

Hi Noel me again - joking aside on this THING ( err sorry WING) - a few observations if I may be so bold, I would remove that Gyro and RX and stick in something like an AR630 - with SAFE and AS3X (no messing about with POTS and junk like that, also I did notice at 2:43 in the video the right and left motors did not seem to be working in the right direction that or when you said left you did a right on the sticks.. don't know but it might be worth checking if you want to give it another go - I would like to think if you made these changes (RX/Gyro) and just check the right and left - it might , just might...fly - then you can smash it up and put it into a Bin..

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

I dud think of the AR630 & have just ordered 2 more but i do not like this one & love the Ultrix 600 which flies so much better & easily does flat spins 3D etc that i have never tried previously. Just watching the storm over Isle of Wight. Many thanks indeed mate. Appreciate your advice.

I think your CG is off, I had to add lead to the nose of mine to use a 4S 2200mAh. Read the manual and set the gyro to the mode they say is stabilized and good to 3D, set the gain pots to 30-40 % from full CCW. And you need to give it a much better throw, EDF's need a good push, they don't accelerate like a prop plane. Hopefully this will inspire you to get it sorted out. This is my first wing and I think I got lucky getting the CG correct for maiden as mine flew great. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hX2Mk9V9pbjSn5c.html

@Bellairvideo

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it mate

@CR5rc

2 ай бұрын

@@Bellairvideo You're welcome. Watching your video and mine it's like two completely different models. I have 1.5oz of lead in the nose and CG is good with the 4S 2200mAh all the way forward. Best of luck, I hope you get it sorted out before the plane is ruined 😜

First off you can’t fly on stunt mode for takeoff or landing in the beginning. This mode if you twist left to right with wing one motor will fire. Launch with nothing or stability mode only as well as landing. A plank wing like this cg is critical. 1/4” off it’s out a mile. Throws are way too much. The faster the wing goes the more sensitive throws are. Use double or triple rates. High speed needs little travel. I think you are stalling the wing with too much deflection. Not trying to criticize your flying just trying to help you get some good fun out of this bird. I love mine and have had no problems thus far. The stunt mode with the motor fired rudder is best used up high. Good luck.

@Bellairvideo

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks Ted for your detailed reply. Appreciate it🇦🇺🦘

Putting all that weight out on the tips is a bad idea. This model would loose in heartbeat to the same model with the EDF's down the center line, bad design bad model.

@Bellairvideo

5 ай бұрын

I think you are right Michael.

Something is terribly wrong with yours. I’ve been flying mine for about a month now and every flight has been exemplary and “perfect”. It’s fast, stable and highly maneuverable. When the gyro is assigned to a 3-position switch, at one end, you have what they call “safe” or self level but it’s not really that. The manual explains that this is to be used for “launch mode” and when flying, it’s supposed to hold whatever attitude it’s in when you let go of the sticks (ie, if you let go in a bank, it will stay in a bank). At the other end switch position, it’s just gyro ON (not sure how effective that is). In the middle, gyro is OFF and defeats the differential thrust. In (so called) “safe”, it pretty much launches itself and just keeps going till you take control. You might want to check ALL your flight controlller/gyro connections and RX connections. In your video, it almost looks like your differential thrust is backwards. When the wing is yawed to the right, the right EDF should fire up, (gyro compensation) just as when at zero throttle and you go right rudder, the left EDF fires up (diff thrust). My greatest disappointment with this plane is I can’t seem to do the flat spin like I’ve seen in other videos. I can get it to start, but it’s too stable and very quickly straightens out. This is in both “safe” and gyro mode.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Thank you indeed for the explanation. I will go with something i can manage. You should look at the Ultrix 600 for flat spins, it does them sooo well.

@Xviperprime

8 ай бұрын

@@Bellairvideo Thanks for the suggestion. A couple guys here have the Ultrix. I actually have the Flex Innovations Pirana. This is a 6s, pusher prop wing. It spins like a top during a flat spin and it's very fast and stable. It has launch control, even better than on the latest Eflite F-14 and SR-71. I just thought it would be fun to have a twin EDF wing to do the same thing. Nevertheless, I find the X-Fly Eagle to be a lot of fun and exceptional value. I think I just have to find a better technique to flat spin the Eagle.

@Bellairvideo

8 ай бұрын

Indeed very good value mate. It is an innovative model with jets (edf) thats for sure. Reminds my neighbour of the Ghost Bat surveillance drone. I am more a traditional aircraft flyer that i post on my channel, do i will stick to what i enjoy most. Regards🇦🇺🦘

@tomshaw4534

7 ай бұрын

Pull up in to a vertical climb and throttle off, just as it stops put full rudder to induce a pinwheel, it will flatten out in to a flat spin with some elevator. it is a bit hit and miss though. :)

@Xviperprime

7 ай бұрын

@@tomshaw4534 Will keep trying. I get it to start the pinwheel, but it spins for 3 to 4 spins, then it goes into a spiral dive.