These guys are the brains of the operation. Not directors, not producers, or executives producers. The writers are the ones who really creates the show or the movies. Their the ones who create the world and if their not getting the respect or recognition or more importantly the pay they deserved then Hollywood can try to make their own ideas!

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

Meh. Everything they write sucks.

@mikewashko

Жыл бұрын

So these are the people responsible for the terrible shows I’ve seen recently. As far as I’m concerned they should strike forever the vast majority of them have no talent in storytelling and are activists not writers.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewashko they need to learn to code

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewashko You and chuck could write all our new shows. I'd look forward to that.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the idea business--research and art. I've had so many ideas stolen and still see it and have it done to me all the time. It just makes me not want to talk to those people, and sometimes my colleagues in general. I just am boring and shake my head. It's gotten that bad. Remember when Prince put SLAVE on the side of his face? Many artists do not even own their own music, art or other formats. If you make your living or even an advocatin. from ideas/property and someone stole your property/ideas that is illegal/. NO ONE even blinks an eye if you even harm someone else's property --land, stuff, v knowing that property are your ideas and how your applyu them. Credit goes where credit due.

I think what this video is critically missing is the the whole topic of residuals - how residuals were structured pre streaming, and how they are now.

@olivialeighton7775

Жыл бұрын

They do talk about residuals at 6:36

@uria3679

Жыл бұрын

Those certain people: they just want to put their fan fiction and political ideas into media, does no one remember that a writer’s strike is what ruined James Bond???!!!

@stanleythrewbrick

Жыл бұрын

Read the _“Streaming Residuals”_ section @ 5:53….

@stanleythrewbrick

Жыл бұрын

“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_ …what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!*

British writers have been producing 6 episode seasons for decades now and the BBC seems to pay them enough that it's been sustainable. Especially because there are no adverts or product placements either for the BBC and Channel 4 and ITV only have a 70m possible advertisement base. So I really don't get that somehow American giants can't/won't pay their writers enough to produce 8 and 10 episodes a year to 10s of millions more people.

@janechoy2073

Жыл бұрын

Different unions, different studios, different contracts

@eelyy212

Жыл бұрын

just different culture, i assume at least. i know from experience that tons of americans are so accustomed to poor treatment/pay, that the idea of reasonable pay and treatment is absurd to them. its sad.

@entertainmentfan1463

Жыл бұрын

@@janechoy2073 Also Hollywood were the people who created the now infamous "Hollywood accounting" that's designed solely to screw people, don't be surprised that Hollywood is cutting every corner to avoid paying people so the execs can horde that money for themselves.

@entertainmentfan1463

Жыл бұрын

@@Koreryn It's also extremely rare for a actor to suck up that much of the budget anyways. Most production budget is spent on locations, filming schedule and effects.

@rzwitdauncut

Жыл бұрын

@@janechoy2073 different ceos, different greedy bastards, different pigs. etc etc

Listen to the writers. They are the brain of the industry. After working 20 hard years as a scriptwriter, I left the industry because I always had to work on regular jobs too to pay my rent, that's insane. And I refuse to be unseen in my work or treated like s***. It must be fair!

@arthurmorgansMom

Жыл бұрын

Well..write a decent script. Most of you “writers” lately have been writing 💩💩💩💩💩💩

@mikebrand568

Жыл бұрын

Not sure I want a Nanny negotiating for me!

@mikebrand568

Жыл бұрын

Sag threw us under the bus..now they want our help..bs

@dwightmanne

Жыл бұрын

May e if they didnt write garbage people would support them

@dehaman_4_144

11 ай бұрын

the industry sucks... time to cure the brain

As usual, whenever I've read or watched anything about the writers' strike, there are NO details. For instance, 1) What is the minimum wage that writers are currently making and how much do are they asking they make? 2) What is their current, mean residual for a writer on a streaming show and what are they asking? 3) What is the mean salary of a writer on a streaming show and what are they asking?

@pepps779

Жыл бұрын

It is just propaganda, as usual. They just want you to focus on your feelings, which in this case is meant to be empathy for the writers.

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@pepps779 What's wrong with workers striking? Are you on the side of corporations?

@pepps779

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn Are you trying to exemplify the point of my comment? I critique a news company for peddling emotion over information, and your response is one of pure emotion and ignorance. You are a literal stereotype of a customer that this video is targeted towards.

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

@@pepps779 you didn’t critique a news company, you called it ‘propaganda’ with literally 0 elaboration and called it a day.

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@pepps779 No I understand what you were saying I was just curious whether you were for the strike or against it?

Actos are paid too much. Studio execs are paid too much. Cut those two, then everyone will get fair pay.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

Or they could just get another job

“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_ …what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!* better investment than I’ve _ever_ made

@GoogleRuinsAnythingItTouches

10 ай бұрын

These mfs get paid more sitting in an air-conditioned room than I did roofing people's houses in 100-degree heat.

@leviuzumaki3903

10 ай бұрын

Take into account that’s just one episode, if that writer did a 12 episode season, and did 2 seasons, that’ll be around 2 million dollars if not more… just for one series, if they’re doing multiple series it could be even more. They should be grateful so many different people would be insanely happy with that kind of pay.

2007-2008 a war in Iraq, economy crashed, and writers strike. 2022-2023 a war in Ukraine, economy is heading for collapse, and a writers strike. Hmmm The game makers are running out of ideas I see.

I support the writers - but the problem stated - a writer under the streaming system is 8-12 weeks then at 3:17 earlier the shown contract is shown that a weekly minimum is 11-12 K per week. They say that a writer can't live on that. (3:38) so quick math - 8 weeks x 11,000 = 88,000 $ - so if a writer gets one gig a year at 88,000 - taxes it should leave $60K - or 5K a month for working 8 weeks. REALLY? Is this what you cannot live on? I get it - everyone wants more - but is this a poor writer - it's a change - sure. If you get 2 gigs a year - thats a very livable wage. We want more - ok We want residuals - like the old TV networks with Ads... ok (but that's gone) We can't live on that.... come on.

@inu506

Жыл бұрын

I'm also irritated how people can't live off that. However people like Bob Iger (Disney Chief Executive Officer) makes 25 MILLION a month + bonuses... No one needs even a million per month. At least 24 Million a Month should be distributed amongst the people working behind the scenes - cleaning staff, carpenters, catering ect. They are the ones who really keep productions up and running

@artmis6158

Жыл бұрын

See on its own it looks like they’re making a livable wage but you have to remember that most writers have to live near or in big cities like LA, where cost of living is much higher

@inu506

Жыл бұрын

@@artmis6158 Okay, but 88.000 a year for only 3-4 months of work is still a liveable wage - even in LA. And that's the minimum they are paid. Nurses, teachers all also live in LA and don't make that much, but they still have to commute to work every single day, while writers can technically just sit at home for the other 8-9 months they're not writing for a show... (Or they could get another job/ write for another show...) I just checked and a 3 bedroom apartment in LA is around 5000 per month. That's really expensive, but would still leave 2000 a month. I'm not sure if that would be enough for groceries and other expenses in LA, but if someone lives in a 3 bedroom apartment I assume they have a family and their partner is also working. That means a writers 3-4 salery is enough to afford an apartment for the entire year. Prices are going up everywhere. I know people who work 40+ hours a week, year around and have to live with housemates because the cost of living is so expensive. And those people work jobs that benefit other's lives. We have to be a bit honest here and admit that writers don't fullfill live-saving jobs in dangerous work environments

@plsspayorneuter

Жыл бұрын

3:17 was about development rooms. Writers must commit to a show before it's decided whether the show will be produced at all. It's like taking a job with a VERY high likelihood that you'll be laid off in 3 months. But maybe you won't be. But you probably will be. But you hope not.

@edmondcofie

Жыл бұрын

They. live. in. los. Angeles, where most of this stuff is made. also $88,000 in LA is different than in Arkansas. also the writers are an integral part of alot of people making a lot of money; they deserve their fair share. just because people are artists doesnt mean they aren't working within a capitalist system which ironically is all about valuations

Couple all this with the politics that have crept their way into these programs and you have a recipe for disaster. You can’t leave the consumers out of the equation. If they don’t like your content because they feel it’s too preachy, that hurts the industry as well.

@rayesafan9628

11 ай бұрын

Honestly, I think that hurts the writers as well. An executive comes in and says “make it more woke”, and then the writers have to shoehorn in a message. Media with careful artistic political messages actually don’t bother the audiences. I think of Arcane, which had some politics in it. But I would watch arcane a million times before I would want to watch the politics of “Rise of Skywalker.”

Do these terrible conditions explain the horrible state of Hollywood's garbage writing levels?

@christianmiller9934

29 күн бұрын

Actually yes a lot of shows are either cancelled, rushed, or time crunched on writing because of these terrible conditions

People that complain that nothing original is made in Hollywood seem to think that we should use AI to write scripts. Unfortunately people see this conflict separate from their lives/profession. This is a race to the bottom and it’s not stopping at writing jobs.

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

People saying nothing original is being made and that AI is the solution when it literally by definition pulls from existing materials and cannot create anything of its own… 🤦‍♀️

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

They should learn to code

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

@@chuck9483 AI can already code for us, no need to learn

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

@@liftingskies8970 interesting, ya know at one point they were saying that computers would take over blue collar jobs. But it turns out computers are creative! And it can do a desk job! Well maybe the writers can get a job picking fruit or something.

@LewdConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@chuck9483 Only illegals do job picking fruit jobs.

If writers win...all will win....writers are not the problem....

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

They write garbage though. AI can do that now.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@chuck9483 Chuck needs to try to write a short story to begin then go live deep in the forest.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

@@jschuler53 you need to try to write a coherent sentence. The writers need to find a new profession. They are unnecessary.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@chuck9483 Why don't you apply for the job, you say you have the skills. Isn't this fun?

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

@@jschuler53 I have a job. It's the writers who don't want to work. We can import some more Latinx. They are willing to do the jobs Americans don't want.

Just listened to Tom Hanks on a PBS deal regarding writers strike … he could be an awesome lawyer - he talked,and talked, and talked…but, never answered the question ‘…supporting the writers in this strike (2023)…’

Just to check (did anybody catch this??) : a writer "simply can't live" (3:30) on ten weeks a year at ten thousand dollars a week? .. is that how the writing rooms work, or is there some other lower-paying gig they are doing? -- thanks

@FutureCommentary1

Жыл бұрын

I caught the 10 weeks but not the $10k a week sorry.

@frentz7

Жыл бұрын

@@FutureCommentary1 hey, thanks for posting a comment .. I tried looking it up; I think for a lot of writers it's more like about $5000/week

@bigf1ip

Жыл бұрын

Look at (3:18) “That offer included increased minimum rates for those working in development rooms (from $10,798 to $11,554 per week in the first year of the agreement).

Entertainment is absolute garbage nowadays....

If earning close to 100,000 dollars is not enough, thats absolute bonkers! This strike should not recieve support. How is 100,000 dollars not enough?? Even if u are working only for half a year!

@adelaiderichardson4358

Жыл бұрын

Most writers are paid minimum wage

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

No entry level, or even mid level writer, is being paid 100000. It’s closer to 30k

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I just figured out where you got that number. That’s the pay for a DEVELOPMENT room. Where you work for like 2 weeks. It’s not the same as a writers room. No one is paid like that every week every year

@phoenix5054

Жыл бұрын

Los Angeles... nuff said

@christianmiller9934

29 күн бұрын

@@liftingskies8970you are lying so hard it’s funny

So you have more writers than the industry need. Sounds like a simple supply and demand issue. Some writers need to go and find a new job. It sounds cruel but it’s true.

@christianmiller9934

29 күн бұрын

It’s not supply and demand but keep lying to yourself

Let’s all keep in mind when they say “living wage,” they mean living in THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACES IN AMERICA! I feel so so bad that you might have to leave your Hollywood condo or Manhattan apartment. Some people really have it rough I know..

They deserve fair pay. Canada's government employees strike a few weeks ago and they got a 12% or 13% raise I believe. Everyone should strike, it forces the industry to reevaluate where the money is going towards at the expense of other workers. Some actors and actresses get paid too much.

@TomNook.

Жыл бұрын

Define fair

@hteacave

Жыл бұрын

@@Koreryn they do? if they do, they should stop striking. They're accelerating their replacement by AI

@partydave1067

Жыл бұрын

I believe that their payment should be equal to the quality work - 11k a week is far too much compared to what they have created in the last couple years

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@Koreryn Yeah and they have to live in LA. Who's determining what's fair? The writers or the ones who need them or a couple mil of their billion $ profits. Disney is the worst. They should deregulate that horrible comglomerate.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@Koreryn blame the victims. No one wants a strike.

What's to stop studios in the meantime from licensing shows from abroad, replacing the shows on hiatus? Plenty are even already in English.

In the real world, nobody cares, or even notices😂😂😂

Why only protest in Hollywood? Ain't this a global issue also? Writers are often underpaid, while they create important content, but the same goes for artists in general. Anyone remember the story of Van Gogh?

I love it, I can catch up on all my old shows, I remember when The Sopranos were held off for a year, it made it so much better.

@LewdConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

Didn't it end before the 2008 - 09 strike?

@jjtiojohn12

Жыл бұрын

@@LewdConnoisseur oh my bad must have it confused with mad men.

@Maw0

Жыл бұрын

@@LewdConnoisseur 07-08*, but your point still stands.

The strike has been great. Since the late night shows are off, my wife and I have discovered a bunch of fun KZread channels. I think we are ready to give up commercial tv! Thanks WGA. (“Well Written” is a phrase one never sees on film and tv reviews lately).

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

Do you support the writers striking? I think it comes down to it, do you support workers standing up for their rights and better pay? Or do you support corporations taking advantage of workers? Are you a corporate shill?

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

I'm genuinely curious do you support when workers go on strike or join unions? When coal workers went on strike in 1902 do you think that was the right decision? Or the rail strike from a year ago?

@madisonbadger9454

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn I support workers. Especially if they are good at their trade. Unfortunately Hollywood writers are not good. I think the WGA should support their members by providing training.

@madisonbadger9454

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn I support workers. No one should be taken advantage of. That said, just because a worker says they are being taken advantage of, that doesn’t automatically make it true. I don’t think the grievances listed as causes for this strike are that severe. But. My comment was that writing has not been good lately. If the WGA wants to support their members they should provide writing training.

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

If you can’t find good tv nowadays that’s not the WGAs fault. Personally I’m having a great time with Abbott, OFMD and succession. However I would never use someone bad at their job as an excuse to deny others a livable wage, I think that’s extreme.

I would like to hear more from the producers. Their point of view is essential for the discussion.

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I'd suggest they remember the audience, no audience no anything

Watching Hollyweird melt down is more entertaining than the garbage they've been turning out.

Isn't the US an outlier with seasons that last 20+ episodes? UK's tend to have 6 to 8 episodes. So do much of the streaming platforms' shows. Not every show is a cash cow that can churn out 20+ episodes every year By the way, it sounds kind of a stretch to demand that writers be paid so much that they can afford to live writing in one show per year

@madelineward6582

Жыл бұрын

These shows make that much. Also I remember working in the industry and they were always trying to stiff writers and it shocked me. I'm like, you do not have anything without them.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

NNN IGo read some books then.

@IM2357

Жыл бұрын

@@jschuler53 They should write some and keep the money.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

​@@madelineward6582 a lot of shows fail or lose money

@FutureCommentary1

Жыл бұрын

It sounds kind of a stretch that writers can live off of one show per year and yet actors can live several years out of one season. Actors to me are more generic than good writing.

If they wrote good material I might possibly care. But I’m sick of the greed. All they’ve been producing for years is exactly the same tripe- yet they want even more for the same? Disgusting across the board.

@manoo2056

Жыл бұрын

That is up to the executives. Most of horrible writing is after executive start talking about targeting demographics blah blah blah

@vomo8322

Жыл бұрын

What a simple minded and intellectually dishonest take. Greed? Wanting to be paid properly for your work and intellectual property is greedy?

@fos1451

Жыл бұрын

@@vomo8322 it’s not like they’re not getting paid for them, they’re getting paid, they just want more, and that’s the definition of greed

@CommanderM820

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who agrees like if they made good shows and movies I would but in today times heck no

@rayesafan9628

11 ай бұрын

@@fos1451not all writers are getting paid well. It’s a different job. Execs are the problem. They get paid EVERYTHING for forcing some poor writers to write the line “Palpetine … has returned.” Did that writer want to write that line? No. But the execs wanted Palpetine back.

I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to be paid what they're rightfully worth for the work they do. For too long a lot of businesses have paid employees what they think they deserve and that needs to change, so if a strike will bring about change for the better i stand with the writers 1000% in their quest....but that's just me

@louisschmid5487

10 ай бұрын

Sure…. Just like a McD worker wants 165k per year…. I guess that sounds right to you as well ?

Those actors wouldn't have anything to do without writers. The higher ups wouldn't have their pay without writers. Pay writers what they are worth!

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

susan shows like SNL and the late night political comedy shows absolutely depend on the writers. And some of the best tv. I miss those shows, not the same as watching "the news."

@schfuchs1

Жыл бұрын

@@jschuler53 I am very aware of shows that require writers as evidenced by my statement above. I miss those shows and they must pay writers what they are worth if they wish to continue. That's Just.

@MichaelWalker-wu2pq

Жыл бұрын

Artificial intelligence will change that in the future.

@schfuchs1

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq We will see. Humans and AI's have some fundamental differences. And for right now - writers should be paid justly for services rendered.

@MichaelWalker-wu2pq

Жыл бұрын

@Susan Fuchs it's virtually inevitable. All things technology improve overtime. The first generation of a new tech might be rough but with more companies and more money invested they get better. Tvs, computers, cell phones, cars, etc. The same will be the case with A.I.

“Writing is like a gig economy” It totally is! Wake up writers. The whole Hollywood machine (unless you are salaried) is a gig system. Not just the writers. Everyone is freelance so it’s a gig job.

The biggest obstacle facing writers and television actors is beating KZreads numbers.

@oliverford5367

Жыл бұрын

My daughters love to watch stupid KZread videos, and frequently prefer it to actual shows. No idea why they like it, but Hollywood has competition that it never did before. I just don't see where the money is going to come from

@mr.kilpatrick2991

Жыл бұрын

you mean the content that has no writing or acting. 😄 Yep YT is more entertaining than anything hollywood puts out

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

Well television is dead

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

Well maybe they could try writing quality, not quantity

So…. Their weekly wage is… above 10k and a bonus of 42k per one hour episode. Um so… that’s a car. Taking uber might be more of a convenience in this case…

People often forget that Writing is one of the hardest jobs for any project. It's a fact.

@helloworldx10

Жыл бұрын

not as hard as directing. Thinking of a plot twist is one thing, bringing that to life in an audio-visual and immersive way is another.

@PurpleNoir

Жыл бұрын

Why not both? 🤷🏻‍♀️

@PurpleNoir

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Timwell good take 👍

Writers are one who work so hard but gets paid little

This is honestly just a great time for all American workers to fight back against greed and the class war

@luckylove72

Жыл бұрын

When was the last time they fought back successfully? Remember Occupy Wall Street? What happened?

Silly question as I am not familiar w/the industry: why do they need to live and work in Los Angeles? Can the job be done remotely?

@Money_Fox

Жыл бұрын

its more fame and power for them if they live in la

@marzipan2555

Жыл бұрын

Nah, because all the jobs are through networking and it's difficult to network virtually. Also if a writer gets promoted to showrunner, they need to be on set for that

@roccoz2231

Жыл бұрын

@@marzipan2555 I think the poster was asking about regular staff writers. With Zoom and SharePoint technology, why couldn't the job be done remotely? My sister-in-law is a Nurse Administrator for a hospital that's over 1,000 miles away. If she can do that in the *medical* field, surely a TV writer can work from home in Iowa.

@Aeolyte

Жыл бұрын

@@marzipan2555 but UNTIL they get promoted they don't HAVE to be there. idk sounds more so like privilege to me

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@roccoz2231 In theory yes but that's not how studios work. They want you in la and ny. That's where the studios are so the jobs follow. So it could be done remotely but the studios aren't allowing it.

It’s hard to support the writers guild for more pay…. When they make on average $250k a year

It's been a long time since I've seen anything out of Hollywood that wasn't terrible. Be careful you don't just get replaced. No one will miss you.

their (writers & actors) core existential issues are that they're all irrelevant.

I have already stopped my subscription for DisneyPlus, Netflix and Amazon Prime in solidarity with the writers.

These writers had written all the craps in last decade and 99% movies nowadays are garbage only. Why audience will bother if it is written by AI or human.

The problem is most networks or streaming services buy the creators content outright and have no say in what gets done to it the writers have to remember with out them the networks are done i hope all this goes for movie studios as well

First time? Didnt we have a strike just a few years ago?

@shmookins

Жыл бұрын

If you think 2007 was a few years ago.

I support the writers!

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

John Doe. I support the writers! I miss the shows but this is more imortant.

@mikewashko

Жыл бұрын

Watch older shows they were better anyway.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewashko Are you one of these people who are stuck in the 50s-60s? Or some decade long ago?

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewashko Doesn't mean writers don't deserve to be paid for their work. They barely make a liveable wage.

@mikewashko

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn They are paid 11k a week for a average 12 weeks a year. Still adds up to more then me or I dare say most people here make a year. Also FYI the country is in a recession now is not the time.

The quality of writing in shows and films has been declining for years before this strike with original content being phased out for remakes, it's as if writers these days have no original ideas so they just redo something that was a hit 20 years ago, I don't think I will even notice if they get replaced by AI

The fact that the offer is “the most generous one in 25 years” is more evidence that this “generosity” is a bit overdue

The level of entitlement of the interviewees is off the chart. They literally can’t see how insane they sound.

The model has changed. Deal with it. Shows only need 8 episodes. You can’t be paid more “just because.” And why no representatives from the studios in this video? It’s a one sided video.

These big companies should loose money for disrespecting the brains and the heart of those who bring them these high yields. Pay these people sufficient residuals for what they are worth

@sopek1427

Жыл бұрын

Nahh.. i aint willing to pay $50 a month for Netflix

This strike is so poorly timed, studios have every encouragement to spend their money on AI instead.

@heinkle1

Жыл бұрын

Hey ChatGPT, write me a script for…

@CarFreeSegnitz

Жыл бұрын

The strike steepens the curve toward oblivion. Writers were going to be displaced strike or not. Just as when writers switched from quill & ink to typewriters to word processors. AI is just another tool. Some writers will transition to prompter-editor. Others will just have to try their hand at authoring ebooks.

@heinkle1

Жыл бұрын

@@CarFreeSegnitz correct - AI will start as a co-pilot, hollowing our white collar industries before ultimately replacing humans altogether (name your timeframe). Watch economy-wide inequality balloon.

@benjamindover4337

Жыл бұрын

If you thought the writing was bad now, wait until you see what AI can do.

What is annoying is the amount of episode is airing for each episode nowadays. For me, there is no way I can enjoy a show with 6-8 episodes. That's ridiculous

“Gasp” one of them had to DRIVE AN UBER during the months of vacation they had? How horrible! I can’t imagine the shame of having to do such a degrading job. (This is sarcasm obviously)

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

Noerdy you're forgetting this is LA and NYC--very high cost of living.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

​@@jschuler53 they don't have to live there

As a customer paying for these subscription services, I want to see a badge or icon which makes it clear if the production was written by a human being or AI. I want to support human creativity as this is what is inspiring asa viewer to watch what other humans have created to share with one another. I am not interested in artificial stories written about humans.

Honestly, Even after watching this vid, I'm still not sure what the writers want, like they don't want the small writer's room and paid fairly, but they also concede that no one is watching tv like before, so IDK, sounds like one of those catch 22 situations.

@shmookins

Жыл бұрын

Writers aren't getting residuals like they used to which was where most of their money comes from. The reason they aren't getting residuals is that there are no more 'reruns' nowadays since with streaming, all the content is always on demand. So the writers are negotiating a new payment method under the new rules that is streaming. New game, new rules.

@bklynfinesse8709

Жыл бұрын

​@@shmookins Absolutely New Platform need new Rules to keep up the growing industry.

They can all go on strike for the rest of their lives as far as I'm concerned. I've been watching KZread and reruns of old movies, TV shows and documentaries for the past 5 to 10 years. I don't watch anything that they put out on TV or movies these days because most of it sucks. I think they're in for a rude awakening.

@viola1426

Жыл бұрын

same here

This isn’t 2007. There are a lot more options out there to pick from. These shows aren’t being missed near as much as these writers hope.

The SNL writers can all stay unemployed 😂

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

They still get more viewers than you

Who's protesting Netflix because they need to pay too, all this dang money they charging me every month. There is no way that we should be paying an up charge every few years or months and the writers are broke 🤦🏿‍♀️

No one cares! Just being real! We are sooo sick of Hollywood, it’s beyond pathetic.

Support the writers now!. These writers are responsible for the incredible success of stories and success of shows on major studios. We need to support and appreciate writers now!. Writers should be treated with respect and paid well as stars are of shows and paid residuals and given stability as the stars of these shows are now!.

@heavy_ang_patay

Жыл бұрын

They make trash content. Support anime instead.

"ChatGPT, write the plot to the final season of the Handmaid's Tale"

@Just_Some_Kid07

Жыл бұрын

If they can get a bot to do art, it can do YOUR Job. we need to be a lot more worried about this

@phoenix5054

Жыл бұрын

There's a video here comparing AI made script and human made script for Succession. AI-made is very bland and Disney-channel fodder quality.

@phoenix5054

Жыл бұрын

@@Koreryn I don't know if it can work on late night writers though. That requires some sense of political satire and must work on current events rather than past data. I'm talking formulaic Hallmark movie or Disney teen movie types. AI cannot create something inspired though, like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones or Succession.

So these are Hollywood writers, right? If so then I have a suggestion. The studios should meet all of their demands, fire them all and then hire writers who actually can write.

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

This may sound crazy to you but if you cannot afford to eat you may not actually be doing your best work. If their demands are met no firing will be needed. I assure you.

@vulfreyde

Жыл бұрын

@@liftingskies8970 If they just "weren’t doing their best work" I wouldn’t have an issue.

@PurpleNoir

Жыл бұрын

That’s arbitrary though. These media/corporate executives just want more money for themselves. Workers have always had to fight for their rights. These people deserve better regardless of your personal opinion on their writing skills.

@retnuh04

Жыл бұрын

@@vulfreyde You act like writers are the ones deciding to churn out bad movies and remakes and all that, but writers only do what they're told by the executives. It's silly of you to believe the executives care more about the writing than the, you know, writers. Most movies and shows that are good nowadays are good because the writers fought to have it done their way. If writers are fired and executives hire only people they deem to be good writers, then you're gonna be very disappointed when it's basically what you already don't like about Hollywood writing, but worse.

@vulfreyde

Жыл бұрын

@@PurpleNoir Yes, it‘s my opinion. Just like what you wrote is yours.

Another issue is, why are the same faces in EVERY movie? This is why other newer actors CANNOT get work!!!

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

Kickbacks

Middle and upper middle class jobs are getting a taste of what the poor have gone through since forever. They just have the privilege of having a strong union. It's time for a univeral basic income. Ai will make this happen.

I don’t know what to think now, sure, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Wandavision, Loki, etc. are short seasons, but they are like movies that are chopped down to segments. I don’t know all the details but, I need someone to explain, how even on a production that is close to that of a movie, why the writers are having issues.

Cancel all streamers. Support independent producers! We are always silenced and given pennies for shows when these big businesses are making all the profits

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

No

I always enjoy when people go on strike. Things seems to work out better.

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

So you don't support striking in american history? You don't support workers standing up for their rights? Do you support unions? Just curious

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn my comments answer your questions.

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@bngr_bngr Do you read comic books? Lots of comic writers involved in the WGA because they do tv and film now too. Pretty interesting actually.

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

@@akkakkakekkn I’m an adult. I don’t read comic books.

@akkakkakekkn

Жыл бұрын

@@bngr_bngr Whoa jesus man. You know comics have changed a lot from the 50s and 60s. They aren't for kids anymore, I mean sandman, Watchmen, Batman year one, Batman long halloween, Saga, the walking dead. They are a respectable form of literature.

Before the strike I didn’t know this was happening. I hope the strike works

Turn out no one cares. Strike forever.

Most of them need to be fired half the stuff they do anymore it’s Trash. What are they writing reruns

Who is going to be able to pay for the increasing steaming costs & CEO bonuses when no one has a decent job left?

There are only about 6 shows i watch between abc,cbs,foxnand nbc,Abbott elementary is one and love it.

Here’s comes the Al reality shows!

If we're lucky maybe they won't come back at all.

PAY THE WRITERS, they are the brains of the industry

The writers are the brains of the industry. After all the woke filth of the last decade, these brains can retire to the bizzaro world they came from. We need new brains.

@josephwinder6878

10 ай бұрын

Brains! In Hollywood! Bahahaha

I canceled my streaming services until the strike ends! ❤

I can honestly say I don't miss leftist late night shows.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

PC. I do and lots of others do. Want to take a vote?

Let me just say that I hope the writers get what they want and win the strike.

Yes!! More strikes in Hollywood more jobs for us in Asia. Thx guys, the pay is great for us here.

@strangelee4400

11 ай бұрын

Plus you write more original material.

I love how they site 'writers' from Handmaids tale, a show I thought ended a year ago and Abbott Elementary a show I have never heard of. In my mind that says it all.

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

zonder are you kidding? I saw Seth Myers out there on the picket line. Colbert, Oliver, Myers, THe Tonight Show, The Daily Show have all gone dark. They have a huge regular fan base and it's a way to keep up on current events. Don't even say NEWS.

@zondervonstrek

Жыл бұрын

@@jschuler53 I haven't watched any of those late night shows since about 2007. So thanks for proving my point!

@jschuler53

Жыл бұрын

@@zondervonstrek Mr. I Gotta Be Right. Good for you. I miss them every night. They are golden and the best things on tv.

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

Abbott elementary has won multiple Emmy’s. It’s the best performing show ABC has had in years. It’s fine if you’re not aware of it but you can’t just judge it’s popularity based on your personal point of view, there are so many shows out there that there is not a single thing currently airing that *everyone* is going to have seen

@zondervonstrek

Жыл бұрын

@@liftingskies8970 There are hundreds of Emmy winning show I have not seen and probably never will, big bang theory comes to mind. I would argue there is too much entertainment out there and most is poor quality or just not anything I would like. I am not desperate for more, nor will I demand a show is made to perfectly fit the niche liking of me and the handful of likeminded people I met on a Discord server. So this strike seems pointless to me as there is a lot more to do out there than watch yet another procedural comedy.

Ive been a constructor worker and these writers job is too easy. We worked in the hot days and never complained

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

If writing is so easy then why don’t you do it

@realmoonknight

Жыл бұрын

@@liftingskies8970 soon no one will have to once AI takes over

the second she said gaslighting I checked out and rooted for the movie companies.... some people just really love getting that victim badge

@jeffcole75

Жыл бұрын

also does she realize the public has next to no sympathy for them

@blueisthecolor3463

Жыл бұрын

​@@jeffcole75 So wanna bootlick for studios who don't wanna pay their writers fairly?Good luck to people then for having to watch even more dumb reality tv shows without writers.

@marzipan2555

Жыл бұрын

Actually lots of people have sympathy. I want the people who write the shows I like to get paid

@jeffcole75

Жыл бұрын

@@marzipan2555 I don't recall saying marzipan2555 doesn't support, but thanks for clearing that up for me!

@andrewsmith8123

Жыл бұрын

@@blueisthecolor3463 No that is the writers job!

It is very easy for the studios to win this fight with the writers. All the studios have to do is sit back and let the strike go on and on and on. The people who run the studios have billions of dollars. If the studios let the writers strike for the next 10 years I doubt any writer will have the savings to maintain them and their families without of running out of money first with no job. I don’t think any writers are billionaires who can sustain themselves financially and indefinitely in a 10 year long strike. However the studio heads sure can. Eventually the writers will run out of money and the studios won’t.

@Jay-hy6rl

Жыл бұрын

Lol😂

@liftingskies8970

Жыл бұрын

When people stop watching tv because they don’t want to watch reality shows and the stocks start dropping like flies the studios will cave.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

​@@liftingskies8970 we have AI tech to help now tho

@mikewashko

Жыл бұрын

@@chuck9483 AI tech is far superior to modern writers. Hopefully they strike themselves out of jobs.

@chuck9483

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewashko these people didn't care about truckers.

Give these hard working people what they want…

Sounds like demand is down … too bad

Serious question, what did this accomplish?

@shmookins

Жыл бұрын

Nothing yet because it is ongoing. You should ask again when the strike is over. In the meantime, you can look at what the last strike accomplished.

Wow 10,000 dollars a week is not enough. They need to be out of a job.

80s, 90s The golden yrs it will never be repeated. Greed the companies are Greedy.

Meanwhile, the viewing public would be content to have better and fewer films and shows.

The shareholders, producers, & corporate should take a big ol’ pay cut.

For collective bargaining to work you have to being something to the table. What is an employers incentive to settle when they're loosing money on you? You fight when you have something to fight for or with, just because you think it unfair is not enough, you have to have something to offer to make a deal worthwhile. The concept of staff writers explains why everything is the same and everything is failing now. They need new stories, new writers and a fresh approach to entertainment. So just how much is a collective of stagnant writers worth? They don't have a right to a job, they have to create something others want to be productive and profitable. Having staff writers is actually why everything coming out of Hollywood is just BLAH! When your job is entertainment and what you're turning out is neither entertaining or profitable why assume your job is not only safe but you can demand more money? Hollywood is failing right now, why do writers think it's not their fault?

“None of us wanted this” THEN WHY DO IT! 🤦‍♂️

Please make this stop. I miss the magical minds of the writers. I'm getting very bored with the boredom that results.

the problem with streaming service is what matters is quantity over quality. they prefer a short series with catchy bait rather than a long one.

Good for them!! We can’t let corporate greed bully Americans into compliance.

oh no a writer had to drive an Uber lol

Netflix, Hulu, apple, this is going to be a long fight