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@michaeleggimann106

7 күн бұрын

Yay square space. A patron to many of my favorites

Rest assured the KK sisters did as much actual writing on this book as one would be able to credit a keyboard when typing out a grocery list.

@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t

8 күн бұрын

I mean, they get all the credit for the way they look when it was plastic surgeons who did all the work, so this is right in their wheelhouse.

@xidarian

8 күн бұрын

You'd assume that but why hire such a shitty ghost writer?

@rubytiger13

8 күн бұрын

​@@xidarian the bimbos probably used ai ounce they found out all they had to do was mindlessly spread their plastic cheeks and sheet all over their keyboard to get a "novel"

@Wineoclockbookworm

8 күн бұрын

​just a wild guess but maybe because they have no taste?

@rubytiger13

8 күн бұрын

@@Wineoclockbookworm and no brains

"Don't you know, my family is very, very, very important, therefore I matter." That pretty much says it all... 😂😂😂

@recon_fpv

7 күн бұрын

^self-important

I forgot this book existed. It has a *sequel* too.

@fearjunkie

8 күн бұрын

OH GOD.

@rubytiger13

8 күн бұрын

​@@fearjunkieAI has gone to far

@vamsiampolu8438

7 күн бұрын

I would watch a show where the two of you critique a terrible book

@cbob213

7 күн бұрын

@@vamsiampolu8438that’s what this is. Why do people still equate things to old tv shows lol

@samuelleask1132

7 күн бұрын

😮😮😮

These celebrities were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think whether they should.

@skylark7921

8 күн бұрын

Honestly maybe invert the quote. They were so focused on it they *should* sell a book, they didn’t stop to wonder if they actually *could* make anything worth reading

@smuu1996

7 күн бұрын

@@skylark7921 Eh, those ghost writers sometimes do a good job, sometimes they don't...

I like to think the sentence cadence is fucked because Kendall would write half a sentence and then pass it to Kylie to finish the sentence. (They definitely had a ghostwriter and did not write a syllable if this book.)

@rubytiger13

8 күн бұрын

Probably used AI as even the most brainless of the world can smear their unwashed cheeks across a keyboard and get a novel

@notyourdad

7 күн бұрын

@@rubytiger13 Give an AI a short summary for a story and a structure to follow and it will give you a very solid outline. Prompt it to write scenes based on that outline and it will produce better work than this.

@rubytiger13

7 күн бұрын

@@notyourdad so your saying that anyone with even the lowest functioning down syndrome could use AI to make a better story

@EvelyntMild

6 күн бұрын

Their ghost writer was Maya Sloan. Never heard of her, but google says she's an award winning author. I'm convinced that award was for perfect attendence in middle school. Dotdotdot

@Midori_Seabreeze

3 күн бұрын

That “eyes expanded” was a deliberate attempt to write “eyes grew wide.” Which sounds so AI.

This certainly raises my confidence that I am not as incompetent as I thought.

@swordablaze9259

7 күн бұрын

Ikr! 😂 it's also quite alarming that a professional ghost writer would churn this out. I'm not sure how surprised I am that the publishing house's editor(s) let this through...

@mEmory______

6 күн бұрын

It does tge opposite fir me. Am i doing this bad???? 😰

Well, of all people that could've written a sci-fi novel, these two surely are the last i would ever have expected it from.

@billyalarie929

7 күн бұрын

Well, you were right!

@pRahvi0

7 күн бұрын

Evidently, they were about the last who ever should have.

@jamesmacleod9382

7 күн бұрын

Hell is freezing over.

@siisti81

7 күн бұрын

nah cuz they still haven't, so you're good

@IAteFire

7 күн бұрын

They couldn’t do it, which is why they hired a ghostwriter to do it for them!

They are genuine inspirations! They have shown that you don't need skill or talent to get your novel published. You just have to be famous and have lots of money.

@JoeAuerbach

8 күн бұрын

Not entirely true. You can self publish without talent OR fame. I certainly did it!

@rubytiger13

8 күн бұрын

And with AI all you have to do is spread your unwashed cheeks and render your keyboard brown to get a novel of this calliber

@drewtheunspoken3988

8 күн бұрын

@@JoeAuerbach I haven't read your work, but I'd be willing to bet it's 10X's better than the overpriced toilet paper those girls put out.

@swordablaze9259

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's either talent or already famous that trads seem to go for. The famous don't have to be talented - just bring an almost guarenteed audience to the table. Self publishing is an entirely different game and more or less anyone can publish this way.

@AkaSora96

5 күн бұрын

Hell, you don't even need to actually write it

8:44 can confirm this is a conversation you would have with your Uber driver in Boston while driving past a construction site. "Yeah, you hear 'bout that guy got killed here last week? Ton of bricks fell on him, killed instantly"

The drop in quality from the prologue (which wasn't terrible) to the actual chapters (which were quite terrible) is staggering.

This book makes Wizard'sFirst Rule look like Memory of Light 😆

@dndn-sc7qg

8 күн бұрын

Lol. Tbf I don't think first rule is that bad, I recently read it and found it to be ok.

@xidarian

8 күн бұрын

I don't think wizards first rule is that badly written it's just ham handedly misogynistic and gross.

@jackwriter1908

8 күн бұрын

​@@xidarian i mean you could consider these qualities as bad, if you don't like reading that kind of thing...

@mpnothanks

8 күн бұрын

Goodkind did seem like a massive tool, but I did end up finishing the last of the 26 books last month and I found it entertaining enough. I had the good fortune of reading that first before Wheel of Time, which I’m on now.

@JC-qp8hj

7 күн бұрын

@@mpnothanksit was entertaining when I was 15. I remember thinking Temple of the Winds was awesome. But now that I’ve read a lot more I can see just how derivative Goodkind was to the point of almost outright stealing. Plus his derision of the fantasy genre and his Ayn Rand love letters are so obvious that it’s bad now looking back as an adult. It’s well-written prose wise but I agree with all of Daniel’s points about Wizards First Rule and it doesn’t really change throughout the series that I remember. Tbf I stopped after book 9 though

I think the most I've done is about 46 hours. I know I've never broken 50. But yeah, it's weird to feel c o g n i t i v e b r e a k d o w n in real time

@chrisnorris1987

6 күн бұрын

In the Ultrarunning community, there are people hitting well over 100 hours at last man standing races, and other long format races. I've raced 60+ hours a couple of times and can confirm it's very psychedelic. Reality fades to waking dreams.

@EvelyntMild

6 күн бұрын

I hit about 72 hours once. The shadow people seemed nice enough, but I could never quite hear what they were saying...dotdotdot

@AndrewThoesen

5 күн бұрын

I've done 43 hours without sleep and it is indeed trippy. Would not recommend.

@meikusje

5 күн бұрын

​@@chrisnorris1987 I watched a video a while back of someone doing an ultra marathon and he had a 'spotter' (can't recall exactly what it was called, but someone who ran with him for bits at a time). At some point near the end, he would just be asking the spotter 'are you seeing that too?', 'is this really there?' and other stuff like that. It's a wild 'hobby', that's for sure!

@kamranm946

3 күн бұрын

@@chrisnorris1987 some ultrarunner (I think Courtney Dauwalter?) made a shirt with pictures of a bunch of her hallucinations, but I can't find it now

72 hours? If I miss sleep one night I feel like an absolute crackhead.

It's like they listened to Red Rising and said "I can do that." But my mamma always said to say something nice. So, books like this make me respect actual authors even more.

Seems like a clear case of "Editor and publisher didn't want to piss off celebrities"

@thecrispymaster

7 күн бұрын

More likely a case of "we're going to pay our ghost writer so little that they'll have to put the whole thing together in two weeks to make in any way economically viable for them".

@takanara7

7 күн бұрын

It's more like "This is guaranteed to sell regardless of quality so why bother spending money editing?"

I couldn’t have asked for a bigger confidence boost in my own writing. Thank you for suffering through this

The thing that baffles me is the co-author. Because if this was just them, I get it. It absolutely reads like a first story. Ask any author published today, and the first thing they wrote reads like this, or worse. I shudder to think of my first book being seen by anyone, ever. But most people spend a good 5-10 years learning before we actually publish anything. Most of us face adversity and failure and rejection. We persist. And that hones us. Now imagine being guaranteed a deal on the very first thing you write, because it will sell. Skipping the line. And in the process, hobbling yourself.

It reads like they dictated the book but when their co-writer tried to expand upon their thoughts they got offended and stopped them 😂

This video expanded my eyeballs.

As someone who was once up for a week straight without chemical assistance, can confirm you start to hallucinate a couple days in. Can not recommend.

@dewed1487

8 күн бұрын

Go on, give us some stories!

@Raikeran

7 күн бұрын

what happened?

@swordablaze9259

7 күн бұрын

Woah! What happened? How and why were you up so long?

If they were like "Hey, we're beginning writers so don't expect anything from this book." it would all be fine. But no, this was marketed as an actually publishing-worthy book. No. Just No.

I hope my writing isnt this bad, but I really worry it is. At least its not published.

@mittag983

7 күн бұрын

Mine is worse lmao it's so full and makes zero sense if writing is fun to you keep on 😂

@recon_fpv

7 күн бұрын

The trick is keep writing. It'll continue to suck, but eventually you may do something great after a few years.

@meikusje

5 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter if it's bad, as long as you're working on improving. Very few people start out good. Writing is a skill, and like any skill, it takes practice and repetition to get better at it. Just keep writing, let people read your stuff, and be open to constructive criticism.

This was so incredibly hard to follow. I can’t imagine the sort of torture people underwent to finish.

Daniel, I had a depressing day today, I was very sad and crying, and nothing could give me joy. You can’t imagine how much this video has lifted my mood! I began to smile and laugh at the sounds of your contagious laughter! From the bottom of my heart, thank you 🤍

There is a reason that sleep deprivation is used to torture people. AND why they tell new mothers to not throw their babies - lack of sleep makes you a completely different person.

Who needs alcohol? Apparently this book has the same effect on your brain as a gallon of tequila

_Andrew could see Blood streaming from his face and even worse, an eye missing._ You can feel how they planned on putting a dramatic *dum dum duuuuum* into it. I don't know why, but that sentence sounds so bad 😂

@TheInfamousRoo

7 күн бұрын

Maybe cause it sounds like his attention was drawn first to the blood rather than the gaping hole in the dudes face?

@TheHonourableFool

7 күн бұрын

It's the "Andrew could see" which is a common writing mistake among new writers. The writer wants to reinforce that you are perceiving things through the character, but instead makes an active scene passive by distancing us from the moment. Andrew can turn at the commotion and see one of his workers stumbling forward. "Blood was streaming from his face and his eye was missing." Further rewording would make it more visceral for the audience, but even with this minor edit you get a much stronger reaction. Something their ghost writer should have known to correct if she was any good, or else they just controlled what she wrote too tightly. That's all I can imagine.

@TheInfamousRoo

7 күн бұрын

@@TheHonourableFool its also possible it was on a horrifically short schedule so the ghost writer was basically writing at sanderson pacing with no time to go back and clean it up

@TheHonourableFool

7 күн бұрын

@@TheInfamousRoo also very true! I hesitate to lay any blame on her, considering the egos she had to work with.

@meikusje

5 күн бұрын

​@@TheHonourableFool even just splitting the sentence into two would make it better. 'Andrew could see blood streaming from his face. Even worse, an eye was missing.' The way the sentence is written in the original makes it sound like a 'and then, and then' situation.

I get delirious every time I fly home. The flights take 18-20 hours and I can't sleep when I travel so in total I'm always up for over a day and I am always loopy towards the end.

Come on Daniel, I can't believe you've never felt your eyeballs expand. You're missing out.

@takanara7

7 күн бұрын

Sounds painful.

The only thing I can think of to make this book more nightmarish would be if it included a foreword by Terry Goodkind.

Some of this writing reminds of Charlie's political speech he wrote for Dennis on always sunny 😂

@LightningRaven42

8 күн бұрын

"Hello, fellow american. This you should vote. Me! I leave power good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot.Taxes, they will be lower, son. The democratic vote for me, is right thing to do Philadelphia. So do!"

@inscendo8397

5 күн бұрын

Best comment 😂😂😂😂

It sounds like they wrote lines then went back in with a thesaurus to try and "fancy" it up. Stuff like expanding eyeballs instead of something like eyes going wide in shock.

@takanara7

7 күн бұрын

I don't think it was a thesaurus

I'm with you on drinking. The older I get the less it appeals to me and it never really appealed to me to begin with. Also Kudos to you for even trying to read the book. I wouldn't have bothered.

This was pretty painful to listen to. But it reminded me of something else. Twenty years ago a group of authors got together to write a collaborative novel that was so bad it would be unpublishable. They took turns filling in chapters without reference to the previous one, resulting in characters changing from one page to the next, plot points disappearing, and more. It was called Atlanta Nights, and you can find it easily these days. They submitted it to a vanity publisher who advertised as only accepting high quality manuscripts. It was accepted without question. Then the writers pointed out the reality and the publisher had to back track very quickly. It was then published on Lulu under the author name, Travis Tea. Chase up the Wiki page on it, it's a total scream to read. It's a bad book written by experts.

My eyeballs have been expanding this entire video, and I'm out of breath with some tears on my cheek. 😂

Daniel thanks for casually repping the choice to stay dry. Makes me happy.

This prose is so bad, I cannot process the text at all. And I'm not even dyslexic. And am listening to Daniel read it.

It sounds like it was written like they thought they would get a tv adaptation, that's the only explanation for these strange scene breaks

Daniel: "don't read this book" Me: "10 steps ahead of you" Was never going to.🤣

So the book was written in 2014. I think that means they were 17 and 19? I mean that abomination has no business being published but they were young so that can explain why it was so bad.

did 104 hours on a dare at 21 yrs old... was beyond delirious. Slept for 2 days afterward.

1) Can you imagine being the editor on this? 2) I'm morbidly curious as to whether this... prose?... reflects their irl thoughts. --- edt: oh, yes, the sleep thing. Going without for multiple days will leave lasting psychological damage and can actually lead to psychosis iirc.

It's interesting to watch as you go from curious, to amused, baffled, then pissed off as you continue. But if where one of their fans I wouldn't feel like they thought I was the "best" if they offered me that garbage.

my schadenfreude is in ecstasy knowing they are horrible writers... and I am disgusted that they will undoubtedly make money from it. Absolutely sickening.

Every time Daniel read the name Longhorn, all I could think was Foghorn Leghorn. So, I kept imagining this mentor character as a giant rooster. I can't decide if this made the story better or worse.

"We're approaching some dialogue" should NOT be a sentence a reader has to utter aloud or even deign to think while reading. Lordy...

Oh boy this was so fun. That must have been terrible to read, but it was enjoyable to hear you read it and break it down😂.

Rebels: City of Indra: The book that can give you sleep deprivation symptoms in record time.

Never has a video been so perfectly timed for the end of a work day 🍷

Somehow, I don't really find this surprising. Note the absence of any degree of surprise on my face! Thanks for this! (Sorry you had to endure the reading to protect us)!

18:15 it's written like my internship report from when I was in university. Like, it's completely missing any thoughts or feelings of the character.

20:28 when you want to focus on something in the distance you narrow your eyes not dilate them. Dilated eyes may represent a lack of focus.

Since I can't get my hands on The Pepperwood Chronicles, I'll be looking out for this gem instead.

Prologue: C- for decent first and nice thought in last sentence

That was painful, I can only imagine how much moreso it was to have to actually read it. I think I understand feeling angry about the book, that something that horrendous, that offensive to actual writers was allowed to go to print on the strength of their celebrity alone! It's an actual insult to anyone and everyone who loves the written word.

the longest i went without sleep was around five and a half days but it was also triggered by a manic episode and i was very much hallucinating. it was really bad you wouldn’t just be tired you go a little crazy, i couldn’t even force myself to go to sleep at that point i had to get help from my doctor

Thank you for this review and for saving us from this monstrosity! I will never read this book. And I foresee I probably won't be reading any books written by Maya Sloan either....

With so much money you'd think they could at least afford a proof reader 😭

I forgot this book was a thing. The only reason I know it exists is because I saw it in a used bookstore and saw Jenner on the spine and was confused. That was the first and last time I saw it and thought of its existance. I've never even considered reading this, and I've read some questionable stuff throughout the years, like so bad I'm embarrassed for people to know I read. I would just feel bad for myself reading this.

I don’t think I’ve ever made it a full 72 hours of wakefulness 🤔 but once in first year university, my insomnia got so bad I was awake 3 nights through. Falling apart by the end of it, and when I finally did sleep I genuinely don’t remember a: falling asleep b: how I got back to my dorm room or c: collapsing on the floor of said dorm room still fully clothed. I slept for 17 hours straight or thereabouts

I first heard of this book when it won a Green Slime Award at Bubonicon. (Yes, that's a convention named after a plague.)

10:25 this is how I feel about The Grace of Kings. And this happened and this happened.

"I so vividly understand the artistry of writing right now" 🤣

Have to say, I have literally NEVER heard of these authors. Not ever. Not until I clicked on your video just now.

I would be such a devoted viewer of 'Keeping Up with Cormac' you have no idea

They *could* have paid a writer. It would have been fine. Somebody gets paid, they get the cash grab, and it's maybe a mediocre novel. But no. I just realized someone must have edited this. Multiple people held this book in their hands and thought, "Sure, let's put this out into the world." Sigh.

@jackwriter1908

8 күн бұрын

I mean... if I were the editor I would do it, get the money and just wouldn't care how good of a job I did. After all, no-one will say it's the editors fault 😂

@jatzi1526

7 күн бұрын

@@jackwriter1908 I mean other editors definitely will. Schilling out shit for money is possibly a way to advance ones career in the publishing world but I'm betting the better method is to just ya know be a good editor.

@takanara7

7 күн бұрын

The book is going to sell because of the authors names. Why would a publishing company spend editing something when that editing will have zero influence on sales figures? It's just flushing money down the toilet absolutely no reason. [some kind of sci-fi toilet that won't get clogged on the cotton-linen paper that money is printed on]

@IlseMulAuthor

7 күн бұрын

There was an author involved..... safe to say I will never write a book of hers. I mean.....

It is indeed like this with everything they make and sell 😂

this book gives me a lot confidence, because if something like this can be published, then I can certainly get published.

@takanara7

7 күн бұрын

Yeah first become a billionaire makeup and lifestyle mogul, then use your money to publish and promote your book to your fans. [honestly any 'influencer' can write a book and sell it to their followers]

What's the music in the background? on 11 :35?

16:34 I don’t think they hired a ghost writer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I absolutely can't stand present tense in a novel. Chuck Wendig wrote his Star Wars aftermath trilogy in present tense as well, and I had such a hard time slogging through....

@pRahvi0

7 күн бұрын

Present tense 3rd person feels like a script for a movie or comic that is yet to be translated into the final form. Present tense 1st person, like this, feels like... I'm not sure... stram of consciousness? A style trending about a century ago and infamously terrible to read.

Videos like these make me feel better about my mediocre sci fi novel

They have school competitions in my former middle/high school in which they separate everyone in 6 different teams. It lasts 3 days and 2 nights. It's made up of riddles, challenges and quests. For my 4 yrs of High School I did the whole 3day/2night thing without sleep. When the last few hours come closer, you become either hyper or super calm (for me, at least, I have adhd). I remember feeling like I had drunk 6 cans of monsters alongside 6 shots of espresso (probably because I did). My brain started to get foggy, everything was super funny or super sad and I could no longer do most manual tasks. It was insane (18y/o me could, 28 y/o me would never)

16:26 Somehow, this is a ghost writer (Maya Sloan). I guess this goes to show that even large amounts of money couldn’t make up for passion when it comes to fantasy writing. I’m curious to see what this writing (& editing) process was like here. 17:23 My best friend and I used to write stories chapter by chapter back and forth in middle school and they read a lot like this too 😂

@LightningRaven42

8 күн бұрын

Given how these people like to threat others, I wouldn't be surprised if they hired the ghost writer for as cheap as possible and didn't work with them whatsoever, and probably didn't pay enough for them to do more than a finished first draft.

@karigirl34

8 күн бұрын

@@LightningRaven42 Honestly, I think you’re onto something there. That would absolutely fit the bill.

@jackwriter1908

8 күн бұрын

​@@LightningRaven42 I would definetly halfass my job if someone had the money to pay me well, but tries to give me the bare minimum and then (let's be honest that definetly happened) keep demanding changes. And since my name wouldn't be on the cover anyway, I couldn't care less how poorly it is reviewed 😂

@alec8485

7 күн бұрын

This might just be Maya Sloan's writing quality. She has 2 books on goodreads where she's listed as the only author, which have a rating of 3.37 and 2.44.

Yo man , unrelated to the video , but i wanted to ask you about your thoughts about , the winds of winter 2024 talk ? And the powsible wordcon announcement

I remember grabbing this book at Walmart and reading a random page... I had a headache for the next 45 mins.

Unfortunately, you can function without sleep for a long time, but it is definitely not safe or recommended. After having both my babies (2 years apart), I was unable to sleep for 5 days straight, due to them waking and crying to be fed just as I was about to fall sleep and also due to the new mom hormones racing through my body that made me so alert and wired and waiting to hear them wake up. Do not recommend and I could not have driven a car or left the house to do anything - I was a zombie. I did, thankfully get 3-5 hours of sleep on the fifth day after both births.

Legit felt my eyeballs expand when he read that line!

Im a vision technician, and if your eyeballs are EXPANDING, then you are having some serious issues.

I went almost 2 days without sleep (Party party) and went directly to work - I was a hazard to me and everyone around me. I could go home, because I did not look well - and this was in my early 20s.

Kane? Indra? Lex?! I think somebody watched too much 100 tv show😂 I feel bad for you Daniel this book sounds brutal. I was cringing most of the time, nearly clicked off the video halfway through. Didn't they have a proper developmental editor, beta readers or proofreader?

@link6080012

8 күн бұрын

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! I have only heard the name Indra in one place, and followed by Kane and chips (like the AI for Allie in Season 3).

This made me want to drink a lot and it's only 8am😊

"Arndew" lol

This reminds me of those pictures that seem normal at first but, when you actually look at them, you can't identify a single object. Like, I know these are English words that have meaning, but I don't understand any of it.

Have you seen the folding ideas video on ghost writers being exploited? Its worth a watch! (Idk if it is relevant to this particular book, but could explain a lot)

When you mentioned ‘squatting’ as you started reading chapter 1, I was like ‘wait that sounds like blood meridian 😂’

Not news I ever expected to see.

Are we sure they didn’t just enter a prompt into Chat GPT? Hearing this, honestly fuels me to finish my first novel. I can’t let mine go unfinished knowing this was…completed?

A lot of YA does read like this though… I feel bad giving names but I’ve read stuff as bad as

@mittag983

7 күн бұрын

Yes, they almost all read like this. So overdramatic and without any logic. But believe me when I say I still manage to be worse.

@Srbthmlnsmth

7 күн бұрын

@@mittag983 you mean ur over dramatic and no logic? 😂 sorry I cant tell if it’s a typo in ur comment or not

@mittag983

7 күн бұрын

@@Srbthmlnsmth No, I'm worse. Like this is at least funny in a bad way. My writing is dull, convoluted and lifeless. No dramatics there.

Daniel, I have loved watching your channel for years now but my heart screams every time I hear you say “prose” as if it’s a plural term 🥲❤😅

If a book like this!!! Can be published. Then i can be published, too.

Well you said you wanted more author collabs lol

Have you read the secrets of silver clouds?

When Rebel Moon sounds more compelling as a story then this 🤣🤣🤣

Been an insomniac my entire life. It's a wild ride of functional humanity on 3 hours of sleep on normal days, 6 on best days ever, and zero on the worst. Favorite time was college. I did end up not sleeping for 4-5 days. The reason I say 4-5 is that I have no memory of the 5th day whatsoever. Day 3 was already fairly mild hallucinations and the last part of the 4th to the end of the 5th is just lost to me. But...I didn't do anything abnormal. I apparently still went to classes, to work, accompanied friends, made jokes, and wrote an incomprehensibly strange yet accurate thesis statement for literary analysis homework that I ended up not using. Mania is a hell of a drug.

9:00 squeeeeeeshed 😂

I really really hope I don’t write like this. I am about to send my book to publishers.

This book is bad. Also read Tyra Banks Modelland. It's imaginative 😂

I think one of my favourite moments of this who video was the start when Daniel stated "I don't really like drinking" . . . Well I think THIS "Book" may have caused Daniel to start drinking.