The Worst* Weapon in Dead Cells 3.4
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* DISCLAIMER: "Worst" of course is subjective here. From a damage, creativity, and gameplay perspective, I think the Giantkiller is among some of the most lacking in the game. From outdated gimmicks to an unconditional crit condition, we're going to take a deeper look at this weapon in Dead Cells, as well as pose some rework/buff suggestions to make it better.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Disclaimer
1:20 - Playstyle and combo
2:40 - Why it's bad
4:52 - Legendary version
7:36 - Possible buffs
8:33 - Closing words
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Its amazing how balanced most weapons are in dead cells even if its bad its not entirely unusable
@khalidtamer6932
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Tentacle would like to disagree
@Antonio_Dude
Жыл бұрын
Tentacle still useable...maybe the wrecking ball isnt
@ipsnip5828
Жыл бұрын
@@Antonio_Dudenon believer spotted, melon deployed
@QuackersMcCrackers
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@@khalidtamer6932 Tentacle is still usable ;)
@theviralmelon
Жыл бұрын
@@Antonio_Dude hi
I love the giant killer so much so that I have to actively avoid picking it up to make runs unique
@Scroolewse
Жыл бұрын
What? Why?
@Yaturu
Жыл бұрын
Bro i love toothpick and the oven axe and i also have to stop picking it and started using tactics
@Yaturu
Жыл бұрын
I just love slow weapons
Adding a "Giant" or "Large" tag to enemies would work similarly to how they did it for the Crowbar. The devs will have to manually edit each large-ish enemy and give them a "mob tag" (for the Crowbar's crit it's "Monster"). It wouldn't be too hard but it would take time. Source: from the CDB in the game files
Yeah, i'd love to see more videos of this kind! Giant killer was one of those items that i immediately locked after finding out custom mode exists. It's just way too situational and honestly the backpack can be used in so many other ways than just keeping your other biome clearing weapon. In it's current stage it's just a waste of space and without much synergy it's not a mindblowing weapon, even when used against bosses.
@shanerowsley
Жыл бұрын
Can't even store it in the backpack. Guess the devs thought people would want to take this weapon and smuggle it into bosses. Ironic
@Scroolewse
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@@shanerowsley He means putting the Giantkiller in your hand and putting your main biome clearing weapon in your backpack for level transitions. Then on the next biome you just drop Giantkiller next to a teleporter and put your biome clearing weapon in your hand again. Doing this allows you to effectively put Giantkiller in your backpack but it means you're missing out on keeping a shield in your backpack for armadillo pack or putting another weapon that you might actually like to use in your backpack.
Thanks for the great content pseychie, I can tell you have put a lot of time into editing your videos. I do have a question: how many hours do you have in dead cells?
I think the simplest and easiest way to buff the giantkiller is just, make it crit on any enemy above a certain health threshold, the exact numbers would need to be tested, but it would likely be one of those weapons that just gets better and better the higher the difficulty, as enemies gain more health (leading enemies it didn't crit against before to be within crit range) and more chunky enemies becoming more and more numerous.
@Fella_friend
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Or crit on enemies above 50% health and bosses above 1%. Would make a cool gauntlet combo to being crit on max then swap over and punch them to finish it.
@sharkastic2633
Жыл бұрын
That condition would be infinitely better on a secondary-focused item
@YetiCat28
Жыл бұрын
@@Fella_friend I was thinking the same thing! if it just worked by percentage, then suddenly it's got a bunch of synergy options! If you played it, for example, with combo, initiation, killer instinct, phaser, and currupt power, you could have a weapon that deals high damage or one shots! That would be super cool, and would still be fair since you give up survivability.
I hope the devs listen to us and make the unviable weapons viable specially with useful legendary affixes. Amazing vid by the way, hopw it becomes a series
Maybe the Giantkiller could crit on enemies that have a certain amount of HP (Max or Current)? It would still make it work against bosses and elites, but also work against other enemies? I'm not sure how balanced that would make it, but it would be better.
@jasleezy8874
Жыл бұрын
or just enemies that are bigger than you (slashers, failed experiments etc.) they are giant compared to the player. it would make sense and make it better especially the further you go on because enemies get bigger?
@sharkastic2633
Жыл бұрын
That condition would be much better on a unique weapon intended to be used as a secondary.
my first ever hotk kill was with the giant killer, but that was years ago and i havent really used this weapon much since, a rework to fit the current state of the game would be very much welcome
When will you do a weapons tier list?
I don’t even play dead cells but this video was so easy to listen to and watch . You’d be amazing at those 10ish minute documentary type videos about different games
Just wondering since maybe your more clued into these things than I am, any idea when console is going to get the the new free update?
I consider the giant killer to be a life saver (mostly at high peak castle) I go there, look for a giant killer that matches my color then use it against HotK, one time I got a giant killer with about 43000 dps and got my third boss cell with it :D -also this is the first time I figured the actual use for crowbar, thanks!-
A ten minute deep dive on a single item is a near-bottomless well of quality content - The kind that gets embedded in wikis and watched by new people with every new update.
Also please have more videos like this. A lot of dead cells content is just gameplay, i want to have more discussions. They are s lot more interesting to have and i feel it is an untapped market in dead cells KZread that only you and vee sometimes cover
Yes. I am interested in more videos of this format.
I think more videos like this one would be cool.
How do you get the helmet/outfit you have on?
Yo I need some guidance Is the armadillo pack good? How do I do play faster in 5bc??
I think you have to build around it. Using it with corrupted power and face flask vengeance is really fun for me. But i understand it's not an optimal build
Would be cool if having so many stacks of poison (or another status effect) turned an enemy into an elite. Make it so elites always drop something; weapon, food, gold, ect. This could be an interesting build for Giant Killer and tainted flask.
i often combine giant killer with iron staff and electric shield in backpack it can increase my survivability and dmg output
I think you can just drop it near any portal, complete biome with your main weapon, return to portal, take main weapon to the backpack and take GK in hand
You can pair giant killer with serenade where you use serenade for biomes and giant killer for bosses.
@Quatro921
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Yeah that doesn’t really work well considering you’ll be butchering the speed in biomes. And it’s not even that much better than other brutality options at killing bosses
This was the weapon is used to clear 5bc for the first time, and also beat spoiler boss flawless with it 😅
Actually you can put the giant killer in your backpack if you have the biggpack mutation.
i love the new style while talking about weapons why not make a series reviewing weapons the ranking all of dead cell's weapons say something like that but longer around 5-7 min it will also work well with the youtube algorithm plus loved the vid btw
Yesterday I finally got my 4th boss cell with it. I find it pretty bad against normal enemies but really good against bosses. But I only take it if I find it right before a boss
I think a really cool if killing elites and bosses gave a damage buff to the sword on a long timer (1min 30sec for elites, 5min for bosses). It wouldn't enable crits on regulars but maybe it could be really powerful especially to the swords base damage so you can deal with regular mobs more easily. Would be neat and might encourage players to speedrun to every elite in the biome. Cool video.
I like using the Giantkiller when I run a survival build, and being able to put it in the backpack would be amazing.
Hey I'm just coming back to dead cells, how do u get that texture on enemies? looks amazing
@Artazix
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What texture lol😂
I usually take giant killer with spite sword, while i have the cards with the 3 orbs and face flask. I take vengeance, scheme and no mercy, so i use face flask on bosses, scheme and vengeance pop off, and i can defeat bosses like concierge under 5 seconds
"giantkiller can't be put in backpack" Thanks god armadillo pack exists
I always pick one up if I’m using a biome cleaning weapon. The trident and scissors just can’t do enough damage to the bosses.
I will say that I die most of the times to the final boss than to the levels(I don't play on 5BC... yet) so I find it useful, but I think it's kinda slow, and maybe preffer a quick weapon that I can make crit with a subweapon, but that depends on preferences and playstyle of each player
I just put my main weapon in my backpack and when i enter the next biome I drop it until I beat the level (I tend to clear everything all the time) then put my main back into my backpack and proceed to the next biome
I agree with you 100%. I honestly love the crowbar weapon, so if the giant killer was somewhat similar, I would me play it more.
I think one interesting way to buff the giantkiller would be to have it crit on enemies with a higher HP than you. Alternatively, it could have a second function where after a windup, the closest enemy will be turned into an elite (or given the elite tag) and briefly stunned. I think this'll make the weapon more strategic. It may not be perfect, but at least it'll have a niche!
Huzzah but you forget about the mighty Hunter's Grenade dearest Pseychie $3000 to make a weapon usable that you can't guarantee you will even get and have to pick up the item stage one and pray is worth it right
the problem with giantkiller is that most good players make a build with synergy as they go through a run. lets say i make my build around the meat skewer. then it doesnt matter even if i find a legendary giantkiller in the caverns, i would still prefer to keep my meat skewer since my build is focused on it and therefore it will do better than the giantkiller. like you said allowing the giantkiller to be backpacked is a great buff, since it can come in handy when you are having a hard time making a build due to bad shop rng or other factors. it would atleast give it a niche. right now i see it as a beginner weapon as they dont know how to make proper builds so giantkiller seems pretty appealing to them and you dont really need a build for giantkiller
Another Rework idea could be a skill that makes an enemy elite but provides a healing bonus from killing them. This would create a bit of a synergy for the giant killer in its current state.
I think it would be cool if it crit on all hits 5 to 10 seconds after attacking in elite or boss
note, i need to get my hands on the dlc's and some point xD
They could buff the Giantkiller by making it crits against big enemies at a certain health threshold. Like the Shredder or the crystal giant thing in the Cave.
here my rework: the giant killer a crit window of 15 sec in each biome, BUT only in the biome that lead to the giant. after killing the giant, it breaks. it remains true to its name and its usability is expanded, even to a point if it's mastered, it becomes broken. But it'd also have severe limitations, and the player would need to plan for its replacement.
Hold on, how are you using the dracula outfit with the bobby outfit’s head?
@tomasapud8240
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Part of the latest update, there is an npc that changes your head for the Bobby's one
Video idea: do a DPS analysis of the weapons where the DPS stat is lying to you. Stuff like King's Scepter, Pure Nail, Meat Skewer, Tentacle, pretty much all DOT weapons/abilities, Spartan Sandles etc. I've been wanting to make a reddit post analyzing these but no one would even see it lol.
what is the outfit you are using
I think a good way to balance this is if an enemy has x% more/less maximum health than the critical dps it should crit.
Alone Giant killer kinda sucks, but I’ve consistently done 5BC with it using Frostbite and kill rhythm. Add in wolf traps and crusher with poison affixes and damage and you can drill a boss in seconds. Caveat, I haven’t used this on Castlevania expansion, Death’s flying might be a problem
I think it was better when first released, combo on it was a bit faster but even then the changes to other weapons and new weapons are still better
It helped me finish 5BC twice so....its was pretty good for me ngl
what is the point of making it unable to be put in the backpack?
I just throw it on the ground when i enter a biome and pick it up again when I clear it, until I reach a boss and that's when I use it.
yo by any chance anyone knows when is castlevania coming out for mobile?
I agree for me the boss battles are the easiest part of the game the higher you go on bc tier im on four bc and getting through biomes feels way more important than prepping for bosses
At 2BC, it took me 42 tries to kill HOTK with this weapon just because it was so slow. If not for Assist Mode's retry feature I wouldve lost significant progress. Now to retry 2BC without Assist to get a more satisfactory win.
is the clean cut on consoles yet?
The Giant Slayer is one of the best weapons in the game. And yes also in bioms. You just need to be good. (Side note im playing on 5bc)
My idea of improvement: The BIGGER they are, the HARDER they fall: Attacks against normal enemies deals 3/7/10/15% of that enemy’s max HP on top of the base dmg. Against elite enemies 2/5/13/20% elite’s max HP on top of the base critical dmg. Bosses will be 1/2/3/4% max HP on top of the base critical dmg. Large normal enemies (by size) will be treated as elite without dealing critical dmg. Golden golems (found in banks) count but only after they have sucked in enough gold to reach their final form. Sheathed Killer: Can be backpacked. Combo Mastery: Slightly improve the first 3 attacks’ speed while slowing the last one. 0.44/0.44/0.79/0,75.3s. The Executioner: Enhances No Mercy, 15.5% for Elites and 8% for bosses (if the 4th hit of the combo brings bosses’ HP down to No Mercy’s threshold, otherwise 7.5% as normal). Custom execution animations for bosses (similar to Blasphemous execution moves) rather than exploding their corpses (except for Giant, Time Keeper, the Queen, and the Collector - those do not just explode on death/have greater lore implications).
The only weapon i dont use is the one that doesnt kill, since they all kill, i use everything
What outfit is he wearing??? How do you get it?
I've noticed that every time I pick up weapons I have specifically hated causes me to stop liking my favourites so much. Opting to pick up weapons I've disliked over them. This game is amazing,there's genuinely no bad weapons
My custom brutality build is always a meat skewer and a giant slayer. it's pretty great for me.
Good shit thanks
i do hope they'll give it a rework or buff down the line, currently it's not the best weapon, it's not the worst but it's not the greatest at this patch
I like the giant killer now but adding something extra would be sick
Anyone kind enough to share their complete save file? Ive been stuck in bc1 for years. I want to try all weapon 😢
I mean if you want to get more of the cone it could do air combos
"survival only" Sure Grandpa let's get you back to bed
How do i get that outfit?
I would take giant killer if i already have serenade, serenade for biomes and switch to giant killer for boss
For me one of the most underwhelming weapons is the queen's rapier. Even with legendary forge maxed out the damge on this thing is so low which is a shame given how cool it is. Really would like you to talk about it
anyone notice how similar the giant killer looks to the zenith from terraria, same shape
bro the giant killer is so good for bosses in 4bc i dropped it in biomes and used it for bosses
Spartan Sandals:how dare you! Forgetting my existance
I'm in now way a pro at the game but what is stopping you from just equipping a second weapon? First slot GK and second panchaku with a random shield in the backpack? Armadillo exists and personally don't see a problem with running with two weapons. It seems to me like the weapon promotes more of a risky playstyle with more being on the offense less on defense.
I like a new boss guide video, servants are hard for me 😢
its posible to mske it faster if u use kill ryghtm
You can leave giantkiller at the beginning of a biome and come back for it later with your main weapon in backpack
@Quatro921
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That doesn’t change how niche it is and it not even being that much better than other brutality options
@madmax-cq7wh
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@@Quatro921 True, however sometimes it can be nice, when you have really good weapon for biomes (like Death’s Scythe), but it lacks some damage on bosses early on without much scrolls or if you didnt find good affixes
@Quatro921
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@@madmax-cq7wh all I’m saying is that the only time anyone would be really taking it would be if it was in a shop the biome before a boss
I used this weapon with ice armor and tonic from 0 to 5 cells in custom mode. It’s really good, just tank everything
I actually got lucky during a run and destroyed the Hand of the King easily, but otherwise I find it kind of useless. I actually had a more broken run using the boomerang and the cross at the same time.
The sad thing is it’s not even the best weapon for killing the Giant. Like, at least live up to your name! Not being able to backpack it honestly kills it, because at least if I could save it as a boss weapon it would make some sense.
Giant killer is not bad. I even think is one of my favorite weapon. When i play this weapon i take war spear and shield in backpack. (Pro tip: when you start level drop giant killer in the ground and when you end level pick up again)
The Giantkiller is so op, they banned it from the boss rush
:( my very first time beating spoiler was with the giantkiller
Fun fact, the crit multiplier for the Giantkiller isn't actually 3.66; instead, different hits have different multipliers _for some goddamn reason._ For each of the 4 hits, the multiplier is actually 3.6, 3.4, 4.5, and then 3.2.
Dang, I didn't know you had a collab with everyone else's taste in waifus.
Pseychie, you’re a pretty cool guy
I just drag it through biomes by holding it in my hand and putting my main weapon in the backpack, and then sit on it until a boss shows up. It's 0 effort boss damage for survival. It's nothing more than that.
Have you tried going full brutality in deadcells because then it becomes the deadliest Weapons at some points
@Quatro921
Жыл бұрын
Everything becomes strong with decent luck in rifts and cursed chests. It’s just that giant killer is way weaker than other weapons at that point. It’s completely outclassed by most other brutality options
'welcome to bad weapon academy, a series where we take the worst weapons in TF- eh... Dead Cells. and i show you how to best utilize them'
I think it is AMAZING! It shreds bosses in my survival tank build.
this is the weapon that carried me to 4 bc. its the best boss killer in the entire game. similar to the gilded yumi on how it feels to play with it. gilded yumi is great on biomes but sucks on bosses. while giant killer is the exact opposite.
the thing about giantkiller is that if they made it good there would be no reason not to take it
PSEYCHIE SAID WHAT???
I think some of these bad weapons also make the game more fun to play. Not saying they shouldn't ve balanced. But making a run with a crap weapon is always fun
I never picked this weapon up, so this whole time I thought it was a spear
@Artazix
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Same i thought it was some sort of giant spear but no
Giant killer has always been a weird weapon to begin with as it just doesn't hit hard enough consistently through a run. It's obviously good aganist bosses and surprisingly decent dealing with rats, flying enemies, and mushroom bois. It's a weapon I wouldn't really take all the way through a run because of the inconsistency of the damage making it a niche weapon and a niche weapon imo is a C tier weapon.
Impeller wrecks bosses 10x faster than the trash Giant killer