While I agree with you Saph, the time to make an adjustment to Wixwell has passed. To restrict the shield growth now, after the fusion and after the teams came out, it would be so detrimental to the community. Especially after the refusal to nerf previous overpowered champions. Plarium has dug a really deep hole here and it’s 100% their own making.

@FPSpsychoYT

Ай бұрын

Completely agree with you here. Nice to see a respectful and informative response that isn't just dogging on Saph. He definitely doesn't deserve the hate, it's a logical point to bring up - but they should really focus on fixing/nerfing the PvP game-breaking champs like Trunda and Yumeko before even considering a nerf to a champion that helps with content that's already been mastered for years by this point.

Using your words, the fundemantal crux of the Saphyrra problem is that after you started working on your own game with HH, now you can't resist to tell Plarium how to design theirs. And that is a problem, because you are clearly out of tune with your audience. There is nothing "boring" with Wixwell, making comps to max out certain parts of the game is the fun part for most people - then they move on to one of the other game modes, which there are plenty of. We all know Clan Boos is one the most important aspects, and it's such a game changer for early accounts to be able to get top chests. Keep in mind, it's absolutely not a PVP content - in other words, why the hell would you mind more people getting good chests from clan boss? After seeing this video, if there was a reverse Patreon where I could pay a certain sum, and the same amount gets reduced from your salary, I would absolutely do it. Enjoy ruining the game for us, I can only hope you don't succeed. Also, I wonder if there is any chance of you reading the comments on this video and doing some self-reflection?

Unkillable was already breaking the game and can be considered a cheese strategy. Wixwell is the 1 key Ultra Nightmare champ for people that have not been lucky to get an unkillable team like me. I am very happy with the way Wixwell is right now.

Honestly? I don't care, it's fun that he works this way and in the end this is a game. If they nerf Wixwell I think the game will be worse off for it.

If Trunda is ok, so is he

Of course, you are right. The shield becomes very large on the Clan Boss. However, not everyone could get this hero from the event. It was necessary to be at least a mid-level player. And if you are a free-to-play player, it is even more difficult to achieve. Secondly, the damage is not that significant because you need to have two support heroes to extend buff durations. One support hero needs to set a lot of buffs because they are required for Wixwell's second skill. And of course, Wixwell is also a support hero. Yes, I know he is a defense hero, but his damage is at the level of a support hero. So, you need four supports just to maintain the shields. After that, you can only include one damage dealer. And that's fine, but sometimes we face a green Clan Boss. This means we need to change our damage dealer to one who has debuff blocking abilities, and that hero will also be a support. This results in needing five supports. For mid-level players, it takes two or more keys to defeat the Clan Boss. Okay, question: For whom was this hero added to the game? For experienced players - no, they already have unkillable or infinity teams. For players who are just starting - no, they don’t have a set of support heroes and gear. It’s for mid-level or late mid-level players to help them progress to the next level of the game.

If they aren’t nerfing Trunda, why should they care about him? Should have learned their lesson with Emic. Test servers are a thing for a reason. I think they would piss the community off anyways. This was brought up, and it could have been corrected. So if they nerf him after people spent a ton of resources getting the fusion and the awakening souls……that’s gonna leave a bad taste in my mouth. The fact they knew about it, yet waiting until they milked it for all it’s worth…

@Invatator

Ай бұрын

That's all it is to it... Plarium and all the other CCs milking fusions. Over promising and under delivering, going back on the champs and nerfing left and right

@NicTHiQ

Ай бұрын

wix nerf woulod be absurd. hes way less game breaking than trunda, armanz, galathir, taras mari, and more, plarium needs to do a lot of nnerfs before u could ever justify nerfing wix

@BigpopsMcGee

Ай бұрын

In the end, I think all damage will be capped like they did with enemy Max HP against bosses.

@NicTHiQ

Ай бұрын

@@BigpopsMcGee no shot that literally makes dps gear irrelevant

@BigpopsMcGee

Ай бұрын

@@NicTHiQ I don’t understand that logic. I’m not saying this is the answer but hypothetically, if you capped the damage at 30-40% against bosses how does that make DPS gear worst than crowd control gear?

At this point of the game, anything that breaks demon Lord clan boss shouldn't matter. It's abusing hydra clash that's a problem.

@treygraphicsfte6747

Ай бұрын

agreed I'm really hating how they are acting like this is a real problem when tundra and other hydra issues deserve far more attention nerfing this will only hurt newer players or FTP players who struggle with demon lord.

@stefano4982

Ай бұрын

Wixwell can help more players to reach 1key ultra cb, and that's good . I don't think he break the game. My old team cb 130 milion, now with wixwell 180 milion (michinachi, wixwell, oella, padraig, anchorite). The problem is hydra clash.

@sawyerslack9782

Ай бұрын

Anything that's pvp based is fine to nerf. Who cares if you break pve stuff as long as it's not just a "one champ fixes all " problem

@RPSchonherr

Ай бұрын

And my fix for that is fix the hydra clash scoring system. Don't base it on total damage done base it on milestones reached.

Another also: there is no wixwell problem. Only in your head Saph.

I usually love these vids and the math breakdown, why something is broken and your take on how to fix it, but this one feels like one that perhaps should not have been made yet Saph. Balance is fine when EVERYTHING is balanced. Trunda is not balanced, Yumiko resetting her copies is not balanced. Wixwell has balanced the game for so many people who can now 1 key UNM CB and this vid could possibly screw that all up for them. Hydra teams with Wixwell will still never reach Trunda levels so really no need here. I can 1 key without Wixwell, but for all those lower down still progressing who couldn't before, he is a godsend. Sometimes, staying quite when Whales and Krakens have the luxury of unbalanced champs and an unfair advantage over whole clans in what is competitive should be a fundamental thought in your mind. Who will this hurt the most, and should I make this known until other bigger issues are dealt with? Is the gap between the have's and have nots going to change because Wixwell can potentially help 1mil+ people 1 key UNM CB who couldn't before. The answer is a definite no imo, there is no competition here, and the resources for fusions would be a massive boost for many who could barely do 1 every 2/3/4 months, and I fear you may have caused a lot of people a lot of harm with this. I understand that you are only being consistent, but occasionally, you have to balance the "I'll do this for every champ I come across" with what potentially could be the greater harm to the wider community by doing so if the champ is giving an advantage in something that does not matter to the overall game where there is no competitive edge to it. That's where some of that big brain thinking of your should also go too when deciding whether to make a vid or not imo. The investment has been made by so many already, and many more are working towards a dream scenario for them, with great hopes and expectations of being able to finally do fusions consistently. I really hope Wixwell gets left well alone, or in the fairness of balance, Trunda et al also get "fixed" too, or there could be hell to pay for you and Paylarium on this one from an enraged community. I personally would have waited until Trunda, Yumiko and others' who are further up the pecking order to be fixed were dealt with first, and if they never are then just let this one slide, let the little people have something just for once in an area of the game that will only benefit f2p and Kraken alike.

@suntiger745

Ай бұрын

Any champion that can nullify content has to be adjusted for the health of the game. It's why the clan boss ignores Unkillable and Block Damage after turn 50, and why you can't put enfeeble on bosses anymore. Wixwell can't be an exception to that. Nor can Trunda, who also needs to be adjusted.

@treygraphicsfte6747

Ай бұрын

"Nulify content" and proper strategy are 2 different things. Enfeeble as a stand alone nullified bosses ability to do mechanics. Wixwell isn't a 1 man party the defaults you into a victory setting. You're being intellectually dishonest to make a clanboss specialist equal to a champ who could have nullified all content with enfeeble they ARE NOT the SAME! @suntiger745

@Dharin.

Ай бұрын

@@suntiger745 I guess you clearly did not understand what I said in my post. I never said Wixwell should be an exception. I said, until higher priority champs that break the game like Trunda, who is a part of a competitive team comp (Hydra Clash) and Yumiko too, that this vid should have been shelved until they are "rebalanced" "fixed" "nerfed" or whatever term chosen and Wixwell left for the multitudes to enjoy until such time they are. When they are, do Wixwell too. Until then, leave him alone as the benefit is in resources that help enable doing fusions and booking champs, a few brews, gems and the occasional piece of equipment that can be got daily by doing CB anyway. HC rewards are far more significant, and only a very few of the top 1% have Trunda teams, and it only takes one to annihilate a whole 30 person clan for far more exclusive rewards. Potentially millions of people have Wixwell but all those will be hurt by this and the 1% of the top 1% are left with Trunda, Yumiko et al. If Paylarium "fix" Wixwell and not them, then that is a travesty, and one that Saph would have blood on hands for by bringing this front and centre with this vid. It's a matter of think before you act was all I was saying very clearly. Question... Do you have Wixwell, or was you one of the haters that skipped the fusion? It would be interesting to know, as I've not heard one person who has Wixwell asking for him to be fixed yet. You'd be the first for sure.

@biljancanin

Ай бұрын

​@@suntiger745 Make Brogni do enough damage and guess what, he nullifies the damage that Demon Lord and Hydra do. Why should Wixwell be nerfed if you need a huge amount of your time spent in the only PVE part of the game that is considered toxic, aka, Hydra clash. I can make an infinity shield team for Hydra with Yannica, but im not willing to put that much time in it. I did it 3 times with Cadaver. 1.5 hours for what? Nah. If someone wants to, go ahead. Be my guest. I don't need Wixwell to do 1 key on UNM on any affinity. I do 180 millions with the team im using for a long time, but hundreds of thousands or even millions of players can't

@Dharin.

Ай бұрын

@@treygraphicsfte6747 I absolutely agree with you 100% but you replied to me so the person you intended it for won't see it :D

This exactly because th shield growth is % based that this guy is good and relevant (but only for long fights). So why would you want to undo what makes him good and playable ? Even in Hydra you need to a have a very synergic and well built team to use this at your advantage and still you will surely 3% loose your shield to mischief Head. The Yannica comp is boring to play and will never come close to Trunda's in terme of DMG/perf so no pb here. Iron clad might need to be changed but not wixwell

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Im saying make it better so its worth more in shorter fights and less broken in longer fights :)

@aresvoodoo

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork "make it better"...it's like I'm hearing Plarium's BS through your mouth

@JGmann

Ай бұрын

@@aresvoodoo But getting both is better.

@zhombyland1159

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork But we don't need a short-term shield champ. The game is full of them. A long-term fight shield champ makes sense as a challenge because you have manage to extend that single shield, you have to build strong enough teams to not lose the shield early on, you have to manage to have a good number of buffs on all of your champs so that shield grows on everyone and grows evenly. Yes, this is simple for end game. But for early and mid game it can be a challenge. It's not broken, it's a unique champ providing a unique benefit.

@aresvoodoo

Ай бұрын

@@JGmann In which reality Plarium makes good champs (even) better?! This will not be better, this will be a straight nerf. They will start BS us (like this CC does in this video) using "complicated" and "educated" ways of dealing with it but in the end, it's just that...a nerf.

The game is better for having it. Why even have this conversation if they aren’t gonna nerf trunda?

@RPSchonherr

Ай бұрын

I don't want Trunda nerfed either. It may be years before my account gets to the point where Trunda does the damage these whales get.

I'm not sure if I understand this perspective. A champion needs to be nerfed because they are too strong for PvE content? What about Lady Annabelle for Bonmal or Gnut for FK? I think the only real problem is hydra clash numbers, which I think is an issue not exclusive to Wixwell, which requires a global fix instead of a local one. We already have Brogni for linear shield growth. The exponential shield growth is what makes Wixwell unique.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Because exponential growth is poor design and cannot be controlled. When your shield growth is 100% stronger than any damage you receive it nullifies the content you face. It also makes his initial usages really poor so outside of the few cases he is rather weak from that perspective.

@haotiankong6904

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork I think the point about exponential growth is fair, but I don't think that it's a mechanic that shouldn't exist. Turnmeter control can make enemies never take a turn, which is one of the few viable ways to beat Scarab King or Fyro. This mechanic is extremely broken if it is applicable to all areas of the game, but many bosses have abilities that counter it. I think exponential shields is similar. It should be a viable strategy for some parts of the game while being kept it in check by making it less optimal in others.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Its a good comparison - in Original Doom Tower release they didnt have the Turn Meter cap - they introduced it when people just permanently kept the turn meter down. Its the same vein of thinking here - if you're ignoring vast aspects of the boss design then you really need to change something or the encounter/challenge is as good as "here's your free daily chest reward"

@realscoobs

Ай бұрын

​@@HHGamingNetworkto be fair, many players view PvE as just that... Personally, I couldn't care less about it other than the rewards they give to improve my PvP champs.

@JDNBSW

Ай бұрын

@@haotiankong6904 of course it could exist. Just because Saph repeats it in every second sentence that 'exponential growth is bad game design krkhhkrhhrrk' that does not make it truth - many non mobile RPGs have exponential elements, they just need to control the environment. Then again, it's much easier to talk in absolutes than have a nuanced opinion.

Nerf wixwell and I quit

@voldemort008

Ай бұрын

I'll be there with you. I'm in a clan of just a couple people, and he's the only reason we are able to down NM/UNM daily now to get the extra chests.

@darklurker898

Ай бұрын

🤡

If they even touch Wixwell in one bit with a nerf, they can delete this champ from my account and i want every single energy and gem and leggy book and shards i used during his fusion back. They dont nerf Tundra, they dont touch Armanz, they dont Touch Polymorth so let us also keep Wixwell for all the F2P Players who can actually 1key the UNM CB without crazy Champs.

@nightking4132

Ай бұрын

bruh ... I'm a 4 month old F2p newbie player.. but I have armanz and wixwell ... how the f*ck did you even think armanz is not F2p friendly? It's because you skipped him last time because you think he sucks? LOL

@rockhuntertv6070

Ай бұрын

@@nightking4132 i have armanz and i didnt said that he isnt F2P friendly, its the fact that Armanz is highly overpowered for PVP and PVE but u dont get that i assume. Its about the nerfing of OP champs

so you say plarium intentionaly let us chose broken skill? and then nerf it? what about all resources we invested for fusion, for building, for blesings

@treygraphicsfte6747

Ай бұрын

yea i forgot that this skill was voted on by us! this even further makes me mad that these CCs are pushing for nerf!

@RPSchonherr

Ай бұрын

Right, we saw that skill and knew what it would do, that's why we voted for it.

@vellathor6746

Ай бұрын

lmao it's like they don't even understand their own game. or they are doing this on purpose to create drama

@andyeroberts1

Ай бұрын

We did chose the skill but they coded how it worked,

9 months into the game, I just got Visix. Wixwell was the 1st fusion i decided to go for. I'll just quit and go back to Pogo if they nerf him after i used everything i had saved to get him. Plarium is somehow worse than Niantic and i didnt think it possible.

hate to say it but these nerfs would hurt newer / f2p players far more than any endgame / whale ones

If they nerf him. I want a LOT of resources back.

Dont do it, Saph. Don't ruin this for me! 😂

@KwanzaaJuice

Ай бұрын

Sorry man, but aspiring to good game design is better than allowing things to be broken!

@Davinhomx

Ай бұрын

​@@KwanzaaJuicethen fix trunda. And fix her hard

@BubbaBasher02

Ай бұрын

@@KwanzaaJuice yes and no. Depends on what breaks.

@vikrantkumar3773

Ай бұрын

@@KwanzaaJuice bro mate is created from broken units and are u saying every unit in this game should be equal, don't make me laugh this sath fucker is only pissed off because it is ruining the hydra for him he don't talk about anything, his eyes are only focused on hydra and how to get the rewards, he only pissed of about how one player can do so much damage and lost his rewards from hydra clash and now the game is broken. this are working as they intended u keep your thoughts to yourself and now everyone can build the hydra team with wixwell and yanika he is scared now.

@Hammer701

Ай бұрын

Yea and trunda is well balanced

let us f2p players have fun in cb, we dont need videos like this, no need to fix or nerf him

@MrProbeNWatch

Ай бұрын

No. Yoy might as well not play the game when u can ruin its integrity so easily

@kalebli5502

Ай бұрын

#thumbsdown

@x_SYLAR

Ай бұрын

What does being f2p have to do with anything? Players like you are literally the worst.. assuming that being f2p means you wouldn't be able to do 1 key clan boss without cheese methods..

@jamesgratton6516

Ай бұрын

Lol don't stress cb u will have it figured out in no time, there millions of ways to one key

@unusuallycloudy

Ай бұрын

If you are F2P you deserve nothing, just quit

You got us nerfed the enfeeble, don’t get us nerfed Wixwell as well. Not all of us has the great champions that you have Saph.

@yobytae

Ай бұрын

Hear hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jno4159

Ай бұрын

You have a mythical champ and are complaining about not having champions?

@gerutzu575

Ай бұрын

enfeeble wasn't working as intended, that's why it was fixed. why anyone would think enfeeble working on bosses is on purpose and wont be fixed is beyond me. pretty much the same story with wixwell, it's obviously not working as intended, but to be fair i think they should keep him like that, it's not hurting anyone or making the whole game pointlessly easy the way enfeeble was.

@voldemort008

Ай бұрын

@@gerutzu575 Sounds like it's working exactly as coded to me. If they don't care that people are doing 50+ billion damage with Trunda on Hydra, I'll be pi$$ed if they nerf this.

@dukekessler6292

Ай бұрын

The hilarious thing is thinking CCs have any say. They point out how things work, Plarium makes a decision.

I strongly disagree with this end game whale perspective. This just hurts newer FTP players like myself. I had a killable 2-key UNM before Wixwell. If his shield growth was based on his DEF with my level of account and gear the CB would absolutely destroy the shields long before round 50 and I'd still have a 2-key. Please don't suggest ruining this for players who haven't been lucky enough to pull a Demytha/etc yet. Complaining about "bad game design" when you've got an unkillable team that hits for 200+ mil based on already existing crazy stat bloat...makes no sense to me.

@dustinadams9222

Ай бұрын

Funny thing about demytha Is her speed has to be above 300. Still difficult to attain

@RPSchonherr

Ай бұрын

With the champs I have right now I get to 45 turns maybe 48 before getting wiped with Wixwell. It'll take me months to get these comps or I sacrifice champs that are A tier.

@freeeggs3811

Ай бұрын

@@dustinadams9222nope you only need 270 speed and you can get that within a week of playing the game.

@Shoger

Ай бұрын

@@RPSchonherr You must be building someting incredibly wrong because getting to turn limit with wixwell on clan boss is super free even with level 50 extenders

Oh no, they summoned Saph the Destroyer of Champions. 🤣

@demeanes

Ай бұрын

Lmao

@pedroramirez2215

Ай бұрын

This actually funny he won that tittle though

So, all these CCs encouraged the players to go for the fusion because "this fusion is good" and after the fusion was done, when all the players are depleted of resources, all of them (CCs) scream "nerf him!", in one way or another. No matter how you put it, you are...(you know what you are).

@didawin

Ай бұрын

exactly, and then they claim "we know our community and what our community want/needs"

@Lordebok

Ай бұрын

They wonder why everyone think cc‘s are crooked- it really feels like they encourage plariums bait and switch tactics. Put a cap in hydra cb due to the pvp nature and call it a day

@BigpopsMcGee

Ай бұрын

💯 😂

@kalebli5502

Ай бұрын

#thumbsdown

@MHGFTW

Ай бұрын

Then the next hydra tutorial will be like: "Use a buff extender like Krisk. You all have Krisk right? He's one of the only good buff extenders."

Problem??? I use Wixwell and I one key UNM CB, not a problem for me. I don't see a problem.

@kalebli5502

Ай бұрын

#thumbsdown

@samolofsson2401

Ай бұрын

I never saw the problem whit me useing any pre nerf champs, but they all broke on the game modes.

@ericsmith7836

Ай бұрын

@@samolofsson2401 nothing broken, working as designed.

@samolofsson2401

Ай бұрын

@@ericsmith7836 every champ that has been nerfed worked as designed whit few exceptions, if they don't fix his shield growth it will just end up whit bosses that ignore shield like they capt max hp hits.

@ericsmith7836

Ай бұрын

​​​​@@samolofsson2401That's not true. Saph went on rants about how champs were "bugged" and the "bug" needed to be fixed, and argued with people about how fixing a "bug" was not a nerf. Now, he has graduated from calling out "bugs" to complaining about champs working as designed, but has now labeled it "bad game design." I'm just tired of CC's telling us "Oh this champ is gonna be OP, you have to do this fusion," and as soon as you invest all your resources for the fusion, they start this "Oh, this champ is too OP, Raid has to nerf or 'fix' him!!!" It's very dishonest and annoying. The community chose this; now he is trying to change it. He is literally going against the community's champion and collective choice. We all voted, he should have said something before the vote took place. It's too late now.

Plarium if you're watching this it's all ok with Wixwell. First of all, less then 1% of people will ever use this combo for multiple reasons (lack of time, patience or they already have more reliable teams). I can testify that as relatively big cluster leader and didn't see anyone use this. Conclusion, no need to nerf it because there's a cap on damage unlike (somewhat) Trunda team.

@ledz03

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the opposite of what you said is true. Most people I know were excited to try this comp because they are currently spending minimum 3-4 hours in hydra every week and this could potentially save them some time, and in most cases probably also increasing their clash score significantly.

@vladimirduran237

Ай бұрын

Most people just got him. They haven’t had time to build out the team. I can tell you that’s exactly what’s happening with my clan.

@somesatisfaction

Ай бұрын

Yeah most of my clan got him but I’m the only one using him. Most of the clan have their own reliable setups already

Dammit Saph! This is why we can’t have nice things!

I spent a ton of resources on my practically F2P account to get Wixwell and his 5* soul, and your suggestion would turn him into a average champ for which I have better options.

Hands of Wixwell!

Nah, there is no fix. That is a shitshow. The game is broken, and if is fixed, the community ill be broken beyond repair. The amount of resources (and money) people already invested in him on fusion, path and team building is astronomical. The only solution is to keep the game broken for at least a year, announce some roadmap with game mechanics rebalance in the end of 2025 to be made in 2026, and only change way later, when people would not fell totally fucked by Plarium

Here come's Saph again calling for another nerf.

@user-mf4sc8im8y

Ай бұрын

Pretty dirty all of HH gaming telling us the champ is good . And they call for a nerf . Shady buisness plan there I think

They treat Trunda's A2 as "working as intended", then I guess this is the same, right Plarium? Right?!

As a player who has Armanz but did not manage to get Wixvell: I would not want Armanz get nerfed

We don't need anything, its not wrong, its just not the way you want it to be... Saph seems to be that kind of guy that would make a list of reasons why a woman should like him after she friendzoned him

@dustinadams9222

Ай бұрын

What's the man version of a Karen that still man splains everything? Lolol

Wixwell isn't breaking the CB. Wilwell is breaking the monopoly that some players and some CCs thought they had on how to play the game.

For those not watching the video, You will still be able to 1-key UNM. And probably with less dependency on reflex gear and 2 additional extenders. Meaning you can do more than 500m with Geomancer/Brogni + 1 more dps. You will also be able to use him more effectively in DT or Cursed City. Possibly in arena, although I doubt it. What you won't be able to do is hit hydra heads for 322m per head with Yannica. Or use Acelin/Ironclad, etc. For that you'll have to whale out until you pull double Yumeko and +4 Trunda. Then you'll have Saph's blessing to exploit game mechanics. But ask yourself, "isn't it more fun that way?"

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

I dunno about blessing haha! I hate that trunda team as much as the next person!

@Captain-Blunt.

Ай бұрын

lol this champ isn't getting nerfed, just like the last time hell had made a nerf video about i think monkey or udk? yea the community will rage like the last time.

@jno4159

Ай бұрын

People are conveniently forgetting that saph has already made videos about trunda. You were reasonable right up until the point you werent

@relvid1

Ай бұрын

But you cant be sure, that Plarium would buff the % from the start. The way Plarium nerf champs, is a way that make them unusable afterwards.

what i think is that you should focus on champions that need a buff or focus on developing your own game

@genxnurse1

Ай бұрын

Yes Saph should take his nerf stick and use it for other purposes

If they nerf him im gonna lose my mind

Nobody asked you for a fix on Wixwell. Same as your rant about UDK just because you struggled to kill it in PvP. Go suggest a fix for all that is wrong with the game that doesn't affect players struggling to do CB and Hydra and now may have found a way to succeed.

No one is breaking game except those cc who constantly asking for nerfs.

@user-mf4sc8im8y

Ай бұрын

They forgot the community voted for this guy . Not any of those guys . The champ should be working as intended

I was so excited about the fateless game but seeing this now gets me really scared that you will do this in your game and forget about us F2P early or mid game players 😔

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

We'd never allow the game to get into a state where the only way to play is to whale.

@user-wm8ik1oj4f

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork Well，I hope you remember what you say on this and keep your promise intact. Money is the main culprit of corruption, hope when the game became more popular, you will not be like plarium. Plarium also started good, and it changes when the first ever empowerment being introduced and then, it became corrupted all the way till today, why? because they saw their money growing even more since then.

@pedroalsaresz135

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork I'm sorry saph but here in this video you are not giving that feeling at all, asking a nerf for a F2P champions that whales/end players don't give a F about, so essentially, a good f2p champions that help us progress in content like CB or hydra, that really makes me sceptical about your understanding of our challenges when we don't spend like you do or are still early game. You seem to forget that it is a game, it is supposed to be enjoyable

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

@pedroalsaresz135 Its not about diminishing him helping in progression. Nothing in this video says he shouldnt be good. I'm saying he shouldnt make content mechanics irrelevant or break the core gameplay fundamentals. You're not wrong it should be fun - whats is fun about beating something because 1 champion is broken? This should be framed against fixing all the busted extreme champions we have!

@ethanvaughn1441

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork I feel like if he was as "broken" as you say he is then he should be able to do it all on his own. Instead you have to find or farm for two other specific champs that allow him to be able to grow the shields, and then you have to set it all up so that they take the turns in the correct order. It takes a good bit of gear, time, and effort. plus all the work it took to complete the fusion on its own. If anything they should nerf the rare champs that make it work. increase valerie or hellborn sprite to a 4 turn cd instead of 3. They shouldnt nerf wixwell when champs like trunda or armanz are still running around untouched.

Maybe Saph could do a math breakdown of how plarium should go to every players store and return everything, all resources, we had pre-Wixwell if they insist on a nerf, that would not break the game mode, correct?

is vixwell the problem or shield or a rare no its hydra clash we had cadaver long time and nobody used him for hydra the only reason players using trunda yannica is hydra clash so they need to fix hydra clash system instead

@marcinchreptowicz6843

Ай бұрын

Wixwell

@TrackMediaOnly

Ай бұрын

I'm really tired of my game play being messed over when I'll never even play hydra clash. I totally agree that they need to change HC and leave the rest of us alone.

@SamSolstice69

Ай бұрын

I love reading common sense.

Why CC talk about shield nerf now? You guys help doing plarium dirty works?

If they will nerf him, most players will stop doing fusions. I already stopped spending my time and resources on fusions. I lost interest in it.

Reminds me of the story of the French engineer who is about to be guillotined. The two previous prisoners were spared because the blade miraculously stopped before cutting off their head. The engineer who was next pointed out the knot stopping the blade from falling.

worry about fateless not rsl we voted on it got it leave it alone

This is Saph being stupid again, making nerf decision for himself

Take away the “Clash” and no one even cares! (It’s a shitty idea in a pay-to-win game anyway)

@SamSolstice69

Ай бұрын

Yes.

No thanks. Fix it before you release it. I don’t pay money and work hard to get something and have it swept under my feet.

@mrrealman8020

Ай бұрын

Don't lie Kid.Nobody knew at the start of the Fusion that he was OP broken champ for Clan boss.Your nose will grow up be care full

@GRIMDoZeR

Ай бұрын

@@mrrealman8020you’re the one lying. Next time don’t listen to the content creators saying it was trash. Quit being salty and go for the champ next time or your nose will grow rat boy

You suggestion kills his usability, new player are using him for clan boss and he won’t work with that kinda nerf

there's plenty of broken champs. Just because the "Whales" cant over power everyone else makes them post things like this..

@kalebli5502

Ай бұрын

#thumbsdown

@chrisbrooke5854

Ай бұрын

Speaking as a non-whale I disagree completely. It's about the health of the game, imagine trying to make new bosses knowing wixwell will just shield cheese them.

@tattedtitan9713

Ай бұрын

@@chrisbrooke5854 i disagree with you, what are you going to do? learn to speed tune Wixwell for every single boss they make? im fairly new to the game and spend my fair share of money on mobile games. Its content like this video that makes companies like Kabaam and Plarium change champs, "when the big dogs cry". These videos are unhealthy for the community. All the content creators spend weeks hyping them up, then cry when the younger players get someone that's on their level. We shouldn't all need a 4 year account to 1 key clan boss or take out hydra. It took me countless hours to figure out how to set my team up, not to mention MONEY to book everyone on this team because i didnt want to wait for books naturally. Shouldnt be punished because the CC's think hes broken.

@samolofsson2401

Ай бұрын

​@@tattedtitan9713well the answer will be bosses ignore shield so it won't matter how big the shield is, im no were near a kraken but unlimited shields break the game, it makes every defensive skill useless why use ally protect when its easier to build a shield, why speed tune your team when you can build a shield, shield have always been a problem if you can scale it to infinity why have hp on champs when all you need is a shield?

@tattedtitan9713

Ай бұрын

From my short time 3-4months playing this game, there’s not many places in the game where infinite shields is even possible. Only can boss and hydra from what I’ve gathered. The average player isn’t spending hours on trying to figure out how to max shields at all times. This was the skills voted on and APPROVED by plarium. If they change him. there’s 50 more champs that need to be changed. In that case I’ll take a Tundra and an even swap for my wixwell. Then you’ll have the same problem. “She hits to hard” boo hoo.

Where exactly is the problem ?

Little advise, if you end up getting another thing in game that benefits the players nerfed, you will probably kill your KZread career, and I like your videos. Also, if Plarium listens to you and Nerf's Wixwell, and destroys people's 1-key UNM teams. Plarium will see a mass exodus of low level, and new players like they never saw before. Anyone who built this team will probably rage quit.

@atlanteean

Ай бұрын

I definitely will, even i I spent quite a lot of money in the last year

@dukekessler6292

Ай бұрын

Doubtful on the first point. And blaming a CC for pointing out exactly how a skill works and bringing up logical issues with that problem is wrong headed. Thinking Saph has any power over what Plarium does is also hilarious.

@mr.Lumpy3803

Ай бұрын

@@dukekessler6292 so you don't think people will blame saph if Wixwell is nerfed, and stop watching his channel? What world do you live in? If you read reddit, KZread, and X comments. The community is in an uproar, and are absolutely saying that they will quit.

@dukekessler6292

Ай бұрын

@@mr.Lumpy3803 people will blame whoever they want. Saph isn't the arbiter of what happens, he explains how things work. In an ideal world Plarium would have realized you don't make an exponentially growing mechanic as it breaks things. Also people think CCs have far more influence over a company than they actually do, they have very little influence. You think Plarium hasn't seen the Hydra and CB videos before Saph did this breakdown? People blame the wrong person or entity all the time. Also when haven't people been saying they are going to quit? I've been playing for 5 years and the community is almost always in an uproar about something and threatening to quit.

I get what Saph is saying. The maths makes sense and yes the numbers do seem a little ludicrous. However, as soon as he said 6k DEF was a reasonable value to use for the fix, it told me that this is more of an issue for late/end-game players. Wixwell was a community champ. When we saw the skills they asked us to vote for, I think we could all see this was going to be the result. "balance" him by all means, but he should remain an "all players champion" even if that means he'll be OP for the end game.

This video got me really angry

@realscoobs

Ай бұрын

I rarely do it, but this one deserves a big fat 👎

@gabbe4781

Ай бұрын

imagine getting angry because you disagree with someone

@dustinadams9222

Ай бұрын

@gabbe4781 isnt that the very definition of being angry?

@voldemort008

Ай бұрын

@@gabbe4781 Nobody gets angry when they agree with someone lol.

@realscoobs

Ай бұрын

@@gabbe4781 it might not be the difference in opinion that is making him angry... it's what could happen due to the video and what saph is trying to get plarium to do.

WHY?! there's a difference in being honest to broadcasting to Plarium to nerf champs

TL : DR He's suggesting an insanely harsh nerf, taking the shield growth from exponential to lineair. He's acting like the shield can still grow huge with a fixed growth value. He shows a table of the shield still getting to 6-7 figures, where he asumes champs take 0 damage. At 12:00 you see him call it a "Healthy shield" where he asumes you get wixwells A2 off 50 times without taking any damage.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Side note: I said "increase the % value in a balanced way until it feels like the shield growth is still providing good value"

@MHGFTW

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork They could do that, but then they would have to scale it of the value of the original shield placed. Example 5 buffs = 50% of 30K shield, so +15K. It wouldn't use the same multiplier, so it's not exponential. However as a trade-off, if the shield was damaged, the increase would still have to be based off the original value of the shield. People will likely already be mad about it not being exponential anymore. There also can't be any of this "based off defence" stuff. That's just not what the skill says at all. The A3 says that, but the A2 only mentions the amount of buffs. If you want to scale it on a fixed number, it can't be defence, because that's not what was advertised. Keep in mind people are comparing this A2 skill to Krisks A2 skill. They're similar, but Krisks is better. The main thing Wixwell has is the exponential growth. If you take that away, the fixed shield growth has to be very significant.

Leave him alone

They don’t nerf Unkillable and block damage for clan boss. This is simply a third way for folks to get UNM at 1 key. Good. Keep it.

LEAVE WIXWELL ALONE! So out of touch with how hard this game is for casual F2P / low spenders. I'm the only person in my largely F2P clan some playing for over a year to fuse Wixwell. Hardly anyone is doing NM at all and havent even reached UNM. He hasn't broken anything IMO. Just gives us a chance without spending money / all day playing.

Wixwell has allowed free to play accounts, and low spend accounts, to take on nightmare and ultra nightmare clan boss. Personally, I would have no hope of even two keying the clan boss without him. End game players might not need him, and late game players might have other options, but please don't try to take him away from those that need him for clan boss. Just cap abilities that strip shields to 10% energy max hp, like other abilities. I have always enjoyed your videos, and have watched a significant amount of them, but for me, this feels very anti free to play, mid game, and low spender players. It would also mean a lot of the aforementioned players burned a lot of resources, just to lose what makes return on investment worth it. Please, leave Wixwell as he is.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

If you watch the numbers - im not saying that he shouldnt continue to be good for the current usage. I'm saying the way its implemented makes it so that no strategy is really required for content. By reprogramming him to be based on his Def you still achieve teams that can take on nightmare and ultra-nightmare that is NOT what im saying needs to go. What i'm saying is by changing the coding he's more useful in shorter fights (because the shield growth is stronger initially) and wont break the game like he is doing right now.

@wtfkek1534

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork In what you are suggesting there is no way a F2P team like now will be able to do 1 key UNM or even Nightmare. They would fail within 20-30 rounds and thats what 10-20 mil damage? Edit : They would last 40 rounds with GOOD Def gear not every F2p have that and even that is not a 1 key for UNM or 2 key even

@Invatator

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork the shield is based on his DEF... What you're suggesting is killing the champ and making it unusable. It takes a lot of doing in order to make a team that can beat CB. I've spent 8 hours trying and fiddling. Your 4 "randoms" team did not work for me and it wasn't affinity friendly for HellHades either, to begin with. Even if you somehow magically manage to synergise with Yannica, you're still capped at 300mil DMG. How long can one sustain that fight, and what rewards does it get you? The rewards are crap anyway...or nonexistent every single week. So whom are you pushing this nerf for?

Every time I'm a hair away from having an OP team Saph yells "Hey Plarium looky here, nerf it!!!" 🙄 C'mon man!!! 😒

Plarium should never EVER listen to you.

Sorry but I completely disagree with the fact that there is anything that need fixing! Yes, it is extremely strong and a bad game design, but it doesn’t break any game mode that isn’t already broken! It isn’t like if Wixwell was the first champion to unlock UNM CB easily. If they want to balance the game they should first nerf the champions that ruin Hydra clash (Trunda, Yumeko…) or arenas (Armanz, Taras…) before champions that unlock pure PVE content (CB) or can potentially nearly allow other team than Trunda one to matter in Hydra clash.

You CC screwed over everyone who went for and got Emic all BC he allowed new players, f2p, and low spenders to 1 key UNM clan boss so they nerfed him ASAP before everyone got there hands on him which screwed everyone over there time, effort and resources they put into getting him. But this time we picked his skills and now CC's are saying he needs nerfed. Nerf him forget no dime December me & my clan will simply quit raid all together and good luck retaining players after screwing then over our pick of skills not there's. Saph since you love to do the math so much how much would plarium make if they run off a huge chuck of there player's base forever over wixwell BC 50% of something in my humble calculations is greater than 100% of nothing and all wixwell does is make player's happy for clan boss & hydra. Happy player's tend to spend money or more money but player's screwed over don't spend a penny!!

Also, I understand what multiplicative means, its not wrong, its how multiplicative works.

IF YOU GET PAID TO MAKE A VIDEO, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY IT AT THE BEGINING OF THE VIDEO.

@user-mf4sc8im8y

Ай бұрын

Yep that is the stew gaming rule lol

What I really don’t understand with this videos and people saying he should be nerfed is that why do people think cb becomes pointless because of wixwell when it was always pointless as long as u got maneater or Dymtha or Brogni or helicath like they aren’t really looking to do anything with cb it’s just a nice way for normal players to earn sacred shards. Wixwell help normal players earn those sacred shards early on when they mainly need it. Having Wixwell mainly viable for cb isn’t terrible because he does soo much work in cb. Honestly I’ve been really excited trying to build a Wixwell team and finally one key because rn it’s impossible for me as I have no luck with getting cb nukers but with the way you guys are asking for a nerf I guess I’ll just give up and keep missing out on the max rewards sometimes because I guess that’s what makes you CC’s happy

We have other problems, like billions of damage from Trunda and broken Yumeko.

Stop he is working as intended it’s not a problem

Even tho saph is suggesting a rework or 'nerf' of wixwell by plarium making a video like that, plarium should have take a look at the comment section and after reading for a fews minutes I feel like that video just confirm the sentiment of the community about wixwell and would make plarium think twice before making changes on wixwell and if plarium listen to the community like they are claiming to do then I doubt they will change wixwell, most of the comments are mentionning trunda which was not even discuss in the video. Video like this are great to open up discussion and the community have spoken, let's see how plarium react now !

I struggle to take this video seriously in general. We already have many varieties of unkillable teams in the game, especially for Demon Lord. If the reason for swinging a nerf bat at him is because the bosses can't possibly break the shield. Lets at least swing the bat at every unkillable team that also makes the Demon Lord a relatively pointless exercise. Why punish newer players that just got Wixwell because they currently don't have the champions to make one of the more elderly unkillable teams made possible by past fusions? Why do older fusions get preferential treatment when it comes to breaking the game? I understand the point of the shield problem, but it seems overall disingenuous to simply target Wixwell for this when there are many unkillable comps out there already. It seems like a lazy take. A better option would be to kill off all unkillable teams in the demon lord and force everyone into non-unkillable comps, if we are deciding that the demon lord is still legitimate content, where being unkillable is a problem.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Because you still need gear to make those unkillables work. Some require quite alot of speed gear. Simply putting wixwell in any 2:1 team will make the clan boss features pointless. You dont ever have to worry about stun because of his Intercept buff you permanently extend to avoid any mechanics. So yes - early unkillable are super powerful but they are not as easy to build as this team.

@treygraphicsfte6747

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork I disagree my clans wixwell teams can't 1 key because of lack of damage mitigation to get to scale you're out of touch bro with the majority of the player base. What you consider easy really as easy as you think. Without maxed great hall bonuses and maxedfaction guardians getting stats for us regular joes isn't that easy

@grizzledsentinel4691

Ай бұрын

@@HHGamingNetwork Way more players than you think aren't 1-keying with wixwell 2:1 teams. Us endgame players tend to gravitate towards one another but our experiences are nowhere close to 99.5% of the players in the game.

I'm one video away from unsubscribing from all of the Raid CC's. All I hear is complaining. We already have to deal with Plarium"s bad decisions. You all are adding to it. There is obviously a concerted effort when all of the main CC's put out videos all on the same day saying the same things. It's an abuse of power and is completely self serving.

Curious question, what if someone were to use 2 wixwell's in a single team for clan boss? Would that still make for possible OP teams at the moment?

if you guys are worried about Plarium nerfing this due to Saph.. Do not worry Plarium does not listen to Saph.

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Plarium be like "who is this saph you mention - is it that guy that raged about the award show"

@BubbaBasher02

Ай бұрын

Tbh they definitely listen to saph and implement his bug fixes, they just won’t put him in the CC group because they would rather him fix the champs after everyone got them than before lol

@franklingoodwin

Ай бұрын

I know your joking but even assuming what you say is true. It's still the HH Gaming channel and I'm sure they listen to Hell Hades

@SIRKATS_REVIEWS

Ай бұрын

They listen to Saph but they usually kill Champions when they nerf they over nerf

I think if they neef wixwell trunda better be nerfed especially after such an expensive soul path

What the heck is this video? I'm kinda over theses CC's now.

I don't have Wixwell but i use Brogni but i don't understand show come artifacts shiels it not extensions what i do wrong or how it works?

Never voted and fused Wixwhale so I don’t care. But i care about the community who was ecstatic about having the power over a champs skill only to be nerfed? That’s absurd imho

@dukekessler6292

Ай бұрын

They didn't know exactly how the shield growth worked at the time of voting though. That's why this particular argument falls flat for me.

@BumDump

Ай бұрын

@@dukekessler6292 you mean they haven’t learned anything from emic and corpulent cadaver? How stupid could they be? Imo they exactly know how that would work and they’re betting a lot of people will catch on it so they could milk them dry.

@treygraphicsfte6747

Ай бұрын

@@dukekessler6292 I voted for this shield because I assumed it will provide the same opportunity that brogni does so yea a lot of us was hoping for it. The fact that it’s exponential makes it even better than a lot of us hoped. So the point doesn’t fall flat we knew what we were voting for when it came to the use case.

@dukekessler6292

Ай бұрын

@@treygraphicsfte6747 you assumed, read my post again, it says KNOW. It was impossible to know how it was coded given only the skill description at the time. You can't say people voted because of the skill being so good when they didn't even know how the skill would work exactly. Also you voted for shield growth, even if it's nerfed it will still grow the shield, thus still being what people voted for. To be clear I voted for the same skill.

I've been casually playing raid for at least 3 years. I have yet to 1 key UNM. Wixwell gets me there. I'll be pretty checked out if they nerf him in this way. I'm not looking forward to 5 years for 1 key UNM. F2p life sucks enough as is plz.

hey HH network i have a question im trying to set up my mythfu team and im struggling and my question is i have a live arena buff that gives me two speed and i accounted for this by making my true speeds 2 short my question is it actually a plus two speed or some weird ass .something i ran this with the calc and it says it should work but doesn’t i have no weird speed sets no mastieres that manuplate speeds or gives me an extra turn. thank you for you’re help im extremly flustered you were the only Raid content creator i knew who had a possibility of knowing for sure.

I am just using Wixwell in my brutal hydra teams and your suggested changes would actually empower my wixwell. However, to do anything to Wixwell now may be a bad call on their part. Many newish playes have burned alot of resources just to get him as it opens up UNM CB for them. Others have just spent the equivalent of 20 sacreds just to get his 5 star awakening. Any nerf at this stage would face major backlash. This is not the same as Emic whose change was made as the fusion went live, this is not the same as a possible change to Trunda who has needed their A2 changing for months this is something different.

It doesn't need saving.

Not gonna lie, this is a terrible idea. You talked briefly at the start about how useless they made Emic’s shield growth and now you’re advocating they do the same here because if 10k cap growth on an A1 is useless then a max of like 15k growth on a 3 turn cool down is beyond useless. That combined with the balance assumption of taking no damage and what you suggest will kill any use this champ may have had stone dead. Yes they need to fix the damage stuff from abusing shields for PVP modes like clash but then again, do they? They don’t seem to give a shit about Trunda after all who is far more problematic for this area of the game so boohoo your avg player can do a few billion damage. In summary what youre suggesting won’t fix Clash at all and will remove the CB utility (which is to say unlocking UNM for people) this champ had. Normally you make great videos but this one is so out of touch it almost feels like you’ve been paid by Plarium tbh.

Plarium has interns designing champions; first Armanz and now Wixwell. It doesn't take a genius to realize these champions are OP before doing any playtesting.

How does wixwell differ from Brogni in terms of shield growth? Not their mechanics, just how their shield growths work?

@HHGamingNetwork

Ай бұрын

Brogni = Grows based on 30% of his A2 damage = its a fixed amount each time in the sense that if i deal 100k each time then its 30k addition each time. Wixwell = Grows based on 3% per buff on target based on the Shield value = Its a dynamic amount meaning that if the shield is 100k or 1mil or 10mil then its going add significantly more as the shield grows (exponential).

If you nerf a legend like Wixwell, then they need to nerf Maneater who is a epic. You and other creators are the ones getting these champions nerfed. If you can't condemn a epic like man eater why are you so down on a legend like Wixwell. So Hypocritical

If they nerf Wixwell to the point he is no longer valuable in Hydra and leave Trunda alone, I will instantly quit playing this game. Your suggestion makes Wixwell's shieldgrowth worse than Emic's skill that is used by virtually nobody for the shield extension but for the skill reset.

I think if this had changed before Wixwell dropped onto the Live servers this would have been fine, but it's in the game and it's been put in as it is and they had a event which had a LOT of resource requirement to get the soul for him. I think in general that it realistically is balanced as there are already caps in the game as you mentioned; the integer limit of 2.1b creates this situation to where it will never actually be best in slot for things. I think you also may forget that a big thing with these Hydra and Yannica teams are that they ALL NEED an Emic, and then someone to lower emics Taunt cooldown so that you never get devoured as if you get devoured by any of the Hydra heads this becomes impossible to scale in Hydra (So there are technically mechanics around this in fights as well. I understand from the math perspective that exponential growth isn't a "healthy" mechanic in general, but this also means that Wixwell is VERY UNIQUE in the fact that you can do low-damage slower fights without mechanics to interupt your buff extensions to create some really cool and interesting teams! (At least that's my perspective). Love the insight and I also am happy to know the 3% * # of buffs as I hadn't found that info anywhere and it's cool to see!

I'd be far happier with a fix that capped shield size rather than making the growth fixed. The shield growth being proportional was the interesting/exciting part of the skill from the very start of voting for the fusion. The growth increasing over time isn't a bug, it's doing exactly what they said it would. Capping potential shield size is a better change as it's a balance pass across the entire game, not specifically nerfing a champ from a foreseeable effect.

but if they change him i cannot do my 420+mio cb team anymore. they might cap it after a number of rounds in cb. like say - after round 40 he cannot add more.

Sounds like your take is only end game players should be able to use this tactic 🙈 this has been amazing for newer (mid game) players to help get UNM chests, surely thats just a decent catch up mechanic for those that havent played for years

We love u man but please just don't get wixwell nerf because I have being playing this game for 3 years and today is my first time getting 1key on unm ,

@l3loodR4IN

Ай бұрын

You just gotta get good like saph bro and pull an unkillable team with some +4 gnuts and trunda 😂. They are so threatened and trying to gatekeep new players lol

I have been playing this game for over a year and wasn’t able to one nightmare. Wixwel was a great addition for me and helped me finally get the one key in both nightmares. If they nerf him I’m out.

If trunda isn't a problem so is he!

I really don't understand what the problem is with having a mechanic that allows you to have an infinite shield, what's the problem with that? reach 1500 turns?. The real problem is the mechanics that allow you to deal DAMAGE BASED on the SHIELD, not the shield itself.

All comes down to plarium not fully testing these before they release them. Depend on Ccs and the community to test their stuff for them

Have you never thought that the game designers knew what they were doing? The shields do take damage so you really don't get that much growth.