Dammit I played these games so no one else has to ever again ProStreet and Carbon were legit great though

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

Hi eden :l

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I thank you for you service Mr Eden.

@ovidiusurubaru9281

Жыл бұрын

Is the guy that plays Gran turismo 4 without Japanesse cars and been the only one that 100% flatout 3 .

@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious

Жыл бұрын

Having played most of "the worst NFS games" according to the community, i guarantee you, Most Wanted is the worst of all time, worse than all versions of The Run, Nitro and Undercover. Even Payback and No Limits at least had good atmospheres, soundtracks and in-race gameplay After seeing that someone called Kacey, that tolerated most of these "bad games" including Undercover for Wii/PS2 didn't want to finish it, i tried and i felt like i was going to vomit if i contunued, few minutes after starting the 10th chapter. And i called myself "the 4th gaming masochist i know" ater that passed

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious bro Undercover ps2 is decent I've 100% it

"The good part is that you'll never have a problem with understeering, because you'll be doing donuts at 60 MPH" 😂

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

for real tho

“Just get NFS Prostreet, even the DS version is good,” -Dustin Eden, 2023

I actually went about ripping some 3d models from the DS version of Most Wanted. The reason the cars look so bad is they mapped THE WHOLE BODY to a tiny coloured square, if you have GOOD lighting and materials, that's fine. And I mean, you'd need AT LEAST a ~PS4 to get away with that, even then it might not look super great. Compared to using a photo / drawn area on the side of the car to represent details visually, it has a lot of baked in shading and baked in detail like the door handles. This is how lot of games did the visuals. But they were so cheap they didn't even bother with that. As a test, I did render a nicely detailed metallic material on the car in Blender, and it doesn't look bad. Not amazing, but it's not terrible. But it's also not real time, I tried to see the positive notes, and.. Even diving into the 3D side, I can't find anything redeeming about the Most Wanted DS port. Also the Underground 2 thing with barriers vanishing is just a backface culling issue, not letting you see the back of the polygon. Probably for performance, but I'm not sure if it would do much. As for ProStreet, the vinyls are billboards, basically just 2D planes near the car so they appear they are on the car on the low res original, plus it saves space since you would need a whole lot of more body textures which takes up even more space, compared to textures with a transparency.

@luhibi1220

5 ай бұрын

I just want to ask, how did you rip the 3D models from DS Most Wanted ? An acquaintance of mine is somewhat interested with the race tracks.

Btw, Nitro on DS had an expanded version released for the DSi called Nitro-X. It seemed super rare since there's like almost no record of its existence. Luckily, in the recent years, some people managed to archive the game and now the ROM can be downloaded.

@feder28

Жыл бұрын

Wait for real? As a huge Nitro DS fan (exactly) I NEED to find out more about it.

@spongebobfan78

Жыл бұрын

@@feder28 Yep. I remember searching for a ROM of that but nothing came out, until somebody uploaded a EU ROM, which I immediately downloaded, which was the right decision since it disappeared. Good thing someone managed to find a US ROM and uploaded it.

@markdebruyn1212

Жыл бұрын

I remeber Nitro-X and i tried to find ROM for it, but i coukd not find it

I absolutely agree with everything you said about these games. However, I'd like to add few things about Prostreet and Carbon OtC. DS version of Prostreet actually has *more* race modes than the PC and home console versions of the game - original has 10, while DS version has 18 (+ Hydraulics minigame as 19th game mode). The handling problem you mentioned about the late-game cars is actually because you need to upgrade them properly to actually make them good (I remember stock versions of few cars being horrible to drive unless you invest in their upgrades). Ford GT is the best stock car in the game, while a fully upgraded Corvette is by far the best car you can have. Also, choosing the right spoiler for your car can make a huge difference in how the car handles. A little known fact about the game is that it actually has FMV cutscenes on the cart, but the devs rushed the game to the store and left a bug that made the game automatically skip all cutscenes. :( Only the Korean version of the game has the cutscenes playing properly, as it uses a different in-game overlay. NfS: Carbon OtC is my favorite Need for Speed game on the DS. One thing you didn't mention about the game were the time manipulation mechanics - where you could slow down time or even rewind it after a crash. Iirc, they're unlocked after finishing the 4th zone in career mode. I also had so much fun with the custom vinyls - with Porky Pig busting out of the car's hood being my personal favorite of all of the ones I made. And here's a fun fact: GBA NfS games only let you choose from few pre-made cars in multiplayer and didn't let you use the ones you customized yourself in the game's career mode. DS version of Carbon, however, lets you use cars with *all* of the career customizations - custom vinyls included. :)

Carbon and Prostreet DS Is Dustin Approved So Safe To Play

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

nice.

The Golf jitter in ProStreet is an emulation bug, never had it happen on native hardware, and I got that mf to 220 mph kek

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

Good to know that the console experience is better than melon or DeSmuME

I have a theory about the car models in the Most Wanted port: Since they do have better car models already ingame, there's two possibilities: The cars we see on the Menu are just pre-rendered (I haven't seen enough of the game to think otherwise) OR what we are playing as are Low LOD versions of the actual models. But I have no idea of how a glitch in which only renders the Low LOD models could even happen-

Damn, Gran Turismo on the PS1 had better car models (and probably shadows too) than Most Wanted for the DS

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

Star Fox for the SNES looked better than that

@curesanada

Жыл бұрын

Even twisted metal 1 have better car models!

Kacey made a really great video about the making of the Most Wanted DS port and after hearing everything about how troubled the development was (Jackass and Happy Feet games too) it makes a lot more sense of how broken it was fundamentally. Long story short, people make better products when they're actually paid for it

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I'll definitely watch that one, must have missed it

@killingtimeonline

Жыл бұрын

@@BlooTeg I was expecting a "lol this game is bad" video but instead it was a surprisingly in depth look on the company itself, definitely worth a watch

@endymallorn

Жыл бұрын

I need to look into this, thank you!

I salute you for going through this for our entertainment!

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

Thank you kind sir

@nocreativity73

Жыл бұрын

How do you get that rat emoji??

@theneedforspeeder9575

Жыл бұрын

@@nocreativity73hannel member subscription

@georgenotrussell

Жыл бұрын

@@nocreativity73 by being really cool 😎😎(and also buying a membership)

@nocreativity73

Жыл бұрын

@@georgenotrussell I guess I'm just not cool enough lol

I had a friend growing up who owned a copy of Carbon for the DS. He said the cartridge accidentally went through his washing machine, but it made the game look clearer

I actually managed to 100% Most Wanted DS. I don’t know I feel about having that accomplishment. Also I love Carbon and Nitro on DS

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

that is amazing, I'm impressed you're still alive after that

@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't. Even with my broken perception of what's good, when i was a kid, i enjoyed Nitro and The Run (for Wii) and still play them religiously, i enjoyed Undercover on the Wii when i picked it up to play last week, despite the glitches and the frustratingly agressive cops. But even after this, i couldn't finish Most Wanted for DS and i genuinely thought i was going to vomit if i played more of it

@dickkickem

Жыл бұрын

those are the ones i grew up with on the ds, loved both of them

The reason why Underground wasn’t made for the Nintendo DS, because Need For Speed Underground came out in 2003, while the Nintendo DS came out in 2004. So they had to make a DS port of Underground 2, one year after the console game’s release.

Bro this channel has easily become one of my favorites this year, the content my dude BlueTag puts out is so genuine, keep up the hard work, man! All your effort is absolutely paying off 👌🏼

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

Honestly, I feel like the DS ports of these NFS Games were very unnecessary considering how unpopular they were and how troubling development of NFS games were back then. I believe that EA should of really heavily focused more on the main platforms (Xbox, PlayStation, and PC ports) as those were the platforms that many NFS fans played on and it was mainstream. I think it would have been more appropriate if EA used the studios who made the DS games to help out Blackbox as they often had very little development time for their projects and little manpower.

RE: The barrier visible only from one side, that's the result of backface culling, which is used by most 3D systems to save GPU resources.

I really like the way he chose nissan 240sx as a starter car just like i did in my ps2 back then

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

hell yeah.

Played nitro on the DS and Undercover just once on the DS, I got to say that nitro just feels very dream like, how cars does flips to overtake a car, doing wheelies to avoid roadblock and many more stunts, it’s like If Micheal bay was on drugs and made a NFS stunt game (yes he also made the trailer for the run) it is just WAY different, Undercover I just tried once and I remember driving a BMW then getting spotted by the police and then failing the mission, the DS (and 3DS) is an amazing console and is like a small Nintendo laptop, btw I haven’t played the other ones but Nitro is just memories.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I'll definitely play some other DS games in the future!

@JesperYouTube

Жыл бұрын

@@BlooTeg like Dirt 2 and Herbie rescue rally

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

​@@JesperKZread you do know that firebrand made all of the ds need for speeds after prostreet

@JesperYouTube

Жыл бұрын

@@oli_gordon yeah

I loved Prostreet on my DS so much and still look back at it fondly

In my Emulator for android which i was playing carbon with it in 2016 was an option called de blur

Id like to see you fight against the cars in the first 6 Test Drive games lol

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

bet.

I have to say, i played and finished every nfs game except nitro on ds, an pro street was never having this kind of issues you had

Did they just use MS Paint to make the car models? XD that BMW badge is perfection rofl.

I don't know, but I think the "live-action" cutscene with the M3 GTR in the DS Most Wanted is actually a CGI render with realistic shader effects. Also, it uses the same low poly model from the home console and PC versions.

Absolutely happy I discovered you! ❤ love the content been watching for awhile now! ❤

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much! glad you enjoyed it!

Sorry for missing your Videos man. Love them you made man. I always love tour analysis anf deep dive man

5:27 frankly I don't have to play the game because my copy had a completed save with infinite cash. So that's means I can play the final parts of the game without putting in the hours :D

Really looking forward to to PSP ports (I'm assuming they are next) since I owned a lot of NFS games on the PSP.

friend gave me his copy of most wanted one day at school, I asked if he wanted to trade a game for it, he declined, I soon found out why he was so eager to give it away 😭

With regards to Nitro specifically, I gotta be honest…that is exactly the sort of wacky nonsense I’d expect from a racing game that has Nitro’s art style. And it gives it a kind of “Cruis’n Blast, but we ported it to the DS” vibe. All this is to say that sensitive controls aside…I think Nitro on the DS looks fine.

Even the corvette in “Most Wanted” is able to do a 180 degree turn in 100 mph, I don’t know why every car has the handling equivalent of an Evo or Impreza, but even those 2 don’t have handling as sensitive as a chronic twitter addict

Underground 2 was so hard with its sensitive controls and fast AI, the mini games were also almost impossible and I'm disappointed they took out drift events, also the tracks are pretty much the same as in the PSP version Underground Rivals, still it was decent for one of the first racing games on the DS with stuff like Ridge Racer and Asphalt Urban GT. Most Wanted is definitely the worst game in the series, the story behind that port is quite amusing. Carbon and Prostreet were definitely the best, solid graphics, great handling model and progression but they definitely get very hard at times with brutal rubber banding, you forgot to mention that they were both made by Exient Entertainment who made the PS2/Wii versions of Undercover and hot Pursuit. Also Carbon lets you use crew members like the other versions. Last 2 games were both made by Firebrand Games who specialized in DS racing games, Undercover was alright, the open world was impressive but as you said it was kinda boring, also I really liked Nitro DS and I actually thought it was better than the Wii version, there are more tracks and events so it doesn't feel as repetitive and of course if you get gold on everything you unlock a track on the fucking Moon.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

your knowledge on these games is impressive

@father042

Жыл бұрын

@@BlooTeg Well I beat all of them, including Most Wanted (On emulator)

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

​@@father042 underground 2 on ds was hard because it was made by the people who did the gba need for speeds

1:46 So they predicted Sector Shootout from ProStreet

The DS version of Underground 2 was a seperate version of the GBA version, although developed by the same company who did the GBA version, Pocketeers.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

more like pocket... uhh... not that bad or something

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

​@@BlooTeg they did their best on GBA

@roflBeck

Жыл бұрын

​@@oli_gordonthe GBA version is pretty impressive honestly

I'm glad you did the DS before the PSP ports. Remember it goes all uphill from here.

That really explains me about my thoughts about it to be in the bottom of my own ranking from worst to best.

They didn't bother putting time and effort to make the graphics at least as decent as NFS 2.

Nitro was wild for me as a kid! I got pretty good at it. There was even a secret moon level.

3:12 Actually you can rotate the camera by holding the L or R button and then using the d-pad

Always get excited when I see you posted a new video!

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad!

U2 DS is a demake of Underground Rivals. I wonder why they didn't call it Underground Rivals as well

Holy shit… I always had a very vague memory of playing a racing game on the DS when I was a kid, and I finally found it again after all these years 🥲

You're my best find of 2023. Hope you get bigger! Much love.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much!

NFS Carbon own the city on PSP was my favorite game as a kid i spent countless hours on that game

I mained the need for speed games on the DS as a kid, pro street was a blast and i never had an issue with the faster cars, carbon was pretty good as well but i never finished it. Undercover I liked as a kid but nowadays I can’t go back to it, underground 2 I always found too difficult. Most wanted… I was extremely disappointed and felt ripped off even though I pirated it, still 100% beat it tho. Nitro I played the least and don’t remember a lot about. There was something special about ds racing games, good times.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I'm impressed you finished MW

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

​​@@BlooTegI'm impressed you didn't realise all of the games were made by different developers

At first I thought that there is no way they made NFS ProStreet for the DS, and then I remembered that ProStreet for mobile phones exists

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@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

lmao thank you!

Back in 2009 I got Nfs Nitro as a birthday gift, played through the whole game in a few days and was disappointed

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

that's actually impressive

@wendigockel

Жыл бұрын

But you've got to drive on the moon! You don't get to drive on the moon in other need for speed games!

@oli_gordon

Жыл бұрын

​@@wendigockel bro it's so easy to get to the moon that Shinyodd forgot to get to it

Funny thing is that there's an option to make the race harder by making a clone of your car in MW.

I had the Prostreet on the DS straight🔥

I got an ad for that new Need For Speed mobile game lol

Great video! I used to love undercover on the ds as a kid haha

"Number 15 Guy on The Blacklist" Should be a community meme in the NFS fans 😂

Actually grew up with nfs nitro on the ds, absolutely loved it XD

Lol I had this version of the game when I was a kid I remember thinking it was pretty short

Prostreet was the best NFS on DS hands down, i was hooked.

You did some videos called "worst nfs port ever" but what port is really worst. I think one day you should make tier list ranking all nfs games and their ports. For example: S tier: Most Wanted Xbox 360 A tier: Most Wanted Pc/Xbox/PS2/Gamecube B tier: Most Wanted PSP C tier: Nintendo DS D tier: GBA/Java

Oh shit wait! BlueTag you missed one (although I'm not sure you can get it now). There was a special edition of NFS Nitro exclusively on the DSi store. Apparently it enhanced and upgraded the handling, model, and visuals and was a step up from OG Nitro.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

people told me about it, sadly I didn't know about it beforehand to even give it a mention

@watch_kitty

Жыл бұрын

@@BlooTeg I honestly forgot all about it up until now. I'm not sure if you're even able to play it let alone get it nowadays with the DS family line stores being shut down and all. Maybe hstore might have a copy?

MW DS version is not real, it cannot hurt you.... MW DS VERSION:

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

IT'S VERY REAL

Making a Game Like NFS or GTA for any Nintendo Consoles is a big fvking mistake

Seeing your old persona randomly pop up above your car and on the buildings threw me for a loop.

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

LOL

I loved Prostreet on the DS as a kid 😂

Love seeing you covering so much nfs content

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I love seeing your comments

I was kinda confused when heard Digitalism - Pogo in the video as soundtrack for ProStreet, cause I was listening to the Digitalism album with this song for a while now. As always, good vid, but I think I missed a joke about mom :/

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

sorry she was busy yesterday but I made sure to let her know you were worried

I grew up with these cause I had no ps2, or a ps3, sad times.

I think the best one is Prostreet, great soundtrack car models are ok, good controls in my opinion

I played every ds nfs port and i actually like carbon prostreet and undercover

The Wii nfs game is literally the last game we picked up in the franchise, it was awful.

I still do not see the Nintendo DS in that shelf

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

it's inside the drawer hehe

I've 100% undercover on the ds, and the rubberband thing during races is *nothing* compared to the last highway battle in the game. You opponent reaches lightspeed as soon as the race starts, and you can never catch up. The only way I managed to win was by resetting the race untill my opponent spawned inside a semi truck, which gave me the lead and then I had to block and brake check him to stay in first place till the race ended. Its a really... Unique experience, you should have played more of it.

OK, we had good and bad. But they have made for almost every system separate game! Nowadays, we are lucky if the same game comes out without glitches, server problems and so on.

I’ve never thought of this before but Most Wanted DS looks like what they threw on a TV screen in movies when they wanted the kids to be playing video games but didn’t want to license an actual game.

we played what we had

As always, you make an amazing rating. Keep it up!

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

Most Wanted look like a college student's first work, not a game released ine stores!

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

exactly

I only have Carbon Own the City which I liked to play and the blur didn't bother me. You convinced me to not go for the other games. It would be nice to see a review for Need for Speed The Run on the 3DS.

@BlooTeg

7 ай бұрын

I made a video on the Wii version, which is basically the same as the 3DS one from what people told me!

Something that you said abt Pro Street DS cars being too wobby when you upgrade them further. Maybe because you've installed some visual kits (body kits, spoiler, etc) that negatively affects the car's overall performances (its noticeable on your Golf, 240sx & 350z). Some parts could positively affects one side of the stats while negatively affetcs the others so you need to choose those parts carefully. I'm honestly surprised for the fact that this ProSreet DS out of all NFS games actually had a visual parts that DO affcets the car performances in some ways, well the main ver of ProStreet visual parts do affects the car's perf but ProStreet DS is on a whole another level

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

that could be it, but now I think it might have been a bug It was really, REALLY bad, like completely uncontrollable and some people mentioned that it didn't happen to them BUT you never know, so you could be completely right! maybe an excuse for me to go back to it and test it haha

@flame_101

Жыл бұрын

​@@BlooTegIm late, but it could be the car was damaged since the game has mechanical damage feature

Most wanted has bad graphics but i think the bmw is the most detailed

the only one ive played was nitro 💀

you should cover every nfs games on a psp version, I think it started from Underground Rivals to Shift PSP. I think you have covered Carbon OTC, since I have played it very long ago and I also had UMD Case with UMD in it, but sadly it got broken within few years. idk for mobile ports of NFS games, I only played Undercover, Shift 1 and HP2010 mobile, haven't played Shift 2 iOS version which was made by Ironmonkey studio, and idk for MW2012 mobile version, also there's lost version of The Run iOS version which later rebuilt and became MW2012

10:55 Now introducing Vroom Vroom Revolution. Make your car dance to the beat!😂

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

dance to the songs of NFS classics!

How the fuck did this sell more units than psp

The only need for speed game I ever played was the DS version of pro Street.... I wish I played the 360 version but the DS version holds lots of nostalgia with me. Particularly the 1967 Chevelle SS that was my main the car to use

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

did you remember how far you got into the game?

@kingjamesbond4009

Жыл бұрын

@@BlooTeg I think the farthest I got was beating 3 of the kings except for the drag one. I hate that event in general

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I get that lol

love me some flat-plane car emblems.png (32x32)

Even though my favorite NFS for DS is Carbon, Nitro doesn't look that bad and comes in second place, but jeez...I don't know why, but they ruined everything in Nitro-X for DSi....

My own version has a very low steering sensibility, it's unusable

1:00 I love that nitrous sound effect, where can i get one? Also, really nice video!

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

literally got it from Underground 2 and used a echo effect for the cutoff haha

I played every nfs games on the ds, it was a great time as a kid lmao

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

I feel you

now that i think about it the DS was never really a good console, i enjoyed the SP much more back then.

In NFS Pro Street DS I think the handling in the advanced stages of the game is matter of correct tunning your cars, try to actually equilibrate it's stats, I didn't have that problem when beating it recently (Only the late game AI that gets really difficult)... I think Pro Street is the best racing game in the Ds that isn't Mario Kart or Sonic All Stars Racing... 😅

@efftee

Жыл бұрын

Trackmania Turbo DS is impressive as well

Underground 2 and Carbon actually look pretty decent considering Nintendo DS standards, the rest of the games, yeah... not that much, makes me curious what the hell happened here.

Im so confused, what happened to the rat XD, got a sonic the hedgehog makeover :D

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

haha been a while now

I really don't know why but as a kid with no other options Most Wanted was kinda fun. I know my life is depressing...

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

hey, you had your fun with it, that's great!

Sensory sweep did a horrible job on the game most wanted DS

17:45 ... So we just not gonna acknowledge this? Like nobody is going to touch that??

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

The fact that the old Nokia java version of these games are competitive/better, speaks a lot about how garbage the DS is, and Nintendo consoles in general. They're so far behind, I can't comprehend why anyone bought them.

My comfort youtuber

@BlooTeg

Жыл бұрын

i like that

i loved ug2 DS back in the day