Surprised nobody else has mentioned it yet. That Kitakaze was absolute dogshit. He wasted so much time doing the worlds widest flank just to die in his first engagement. There's no excuse to be that monumentally useless in a tier 8 TECH TREE ship. How some players go through an entire line and still remain clueless is actually incomprehensible.

@cat-tj1xk

Ай бұрын

i was the daring LOL

@tren380

Ай бұрын

I was the Kitakaze.

@olegwinner

Ай бұрын

@@tren380why?? open the secret please…

@DuttySosig

Ай бұрын

@@cat-tj1xkhow much damage did he do to you?

@cat-tj1xk

Ай бұрын

@@DuttySosig half my health in three salvos somehow, even an idiot was able to bitch my fatass daring

"We've got a Kitakaze who... ahhh... He exists." 😂

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

😆

@botond_gajdos

Ай бұрын

​@@SpartanElite43 this single sentence described the entire video

Hey Spartan. I had a similar game like this a couple hours ago, I was in the Iowa just for funsies, and I was (as always) the one getting beat up by the whole enemy team, but this time the carrier was on top of me the entire time. I shot down 91 planes, and did what I could to survive getting manhandled the entire time. Truly a fun experience, I ended up second on the leaderboard despite doing essentially nothing.

the fact you got top of the leaderboard is insane and it really shocked me tbh

@IRONMAN-oh5od

Ай бұрын

Aircraft shot down give great XP.

The update has clearly made CV play one dimensional. There’s no team play here- just focus the nearest ship and 3-D print planes until they die. Lather, rinse, repeat. Without spotting, light cruisers are junk. Without spotting, BB’s are nothing but CV targets. It really means the entire game is dependent on good DD players.

@AdolfHitler-pm3lc

Ай бұрын

The game would be dependent on good DD players if CVs didnt exist too. These changes gave destroyers their spotting role back and are no longer fodder for CVs

"But Spartan, carriers made battlships obsolete in WWII!" Okay hypothetical player, and do you have any idea what the main and secondary guns did to destoyers and cruisers in WWII? A single Japanese 14in round smashed most of the engine room and tore a 40ft hole in an American destoyer crippling and flooding her. A single 14in shell.

@_.Glennicus._

Ай бұрын

We can also mention the 18 inch shell hits Yamato landed on Johnston during Leyte Gulf Battle off Samar if my memory serves Had Yamato been firing High Explosives Johnston would have been obliterated

@launcesmechanist9578

Ай бұрын

@@_.Glennicus._ I was going to mention this if you hadn’t. Every ship has a duty, a role to play.

I haven't played in two months...back enjoying FO4...no raging...not getting mad...I have not missed this game at all

That's why I quit game long time ago.

I feel shooting planes gives a lot of XP now. T7-8, Alabama, a mid game, 2 dev strikes, 3 kills, but 40 downed planes, win - over 3k, top of the leaderboard.

@AdolfHitler-pm3lc

Ай бұрын

It always gave alot of xp, theres just more planes now

Your game perfectly summed up my experience replaying the Nevada and British BBs for the crates this sucks getting constantly dunked on by carriers

@CptChilliRing

Ай бұрын

I did the British crates in the Agincourt 😂 not too many CVs down t3

@crimsintigerx2837

Ай бұрын

@@CptChilliRing 😆 true I guess I'm just to stubborn, I tried it in the rooke..which isn't a bad ship just not the tier to do it at lol

1 Carriers are way OP, 2 you cant see the damn things until you're on top of them, 3 they ruin the game, 4 Invisible destroyers, and way too many of them also trash the game., 5 why the hell did WG think we needed to make carriers to f ing powerful. FFS. this game needs some serious overhauling. Less powerful armaments, longer matches, no invisble ships, (Shima, Jeager) and lets face it carriers need to be visible from greater distances, and maybe as a trade off, make them harder to kill.

And I was looking foward to getting Vermont.. fuck this

The fact that you killed 40 aircraft but they kept turning up strike after strike whilst the previous torps from the first strike are still in the water is, special. And you can't make fun of special i'm told.

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

I felt really special

Absolute disgrace this update has made it into the live game.

Limit the amount of planes carriers can use and increase the AA range of all ships by 1-2km. Planes can do their torpedo run on you by the time they get into your AA range and if i recall, Kaga can only hold 80 planes inside of her, not 500. Drop the damage of torpedoes and bombs by 35% and increase the detection range of Carriers. They should not have better concealment than a fucking cruiser while being larger than a battleship. This will force carriers to selectively choose their targets so they don't lose a whole squadron while still giving the rest of the team an idea on where every ship is at on the map.

Hey two videos in one day, what a present! I love these commentaries lol

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Take away the invulnerability consumable and add a “Spotter” that will work like radar to reveal a surface ship. Say you get 2-3 per game. Fixes two problems right away. Carrier needs to be more careful to not get deplaned and more costly to drop a ship because no invincibility. And makes it more team focused that they can briefly spot a ship for everyone to focus fire.

@AnnihilateUTM

Ай бұрын

Fighter will almost do the same thing and it will provide some defense towards carrier squadrons.

@steamedgames5148

Ай бұрын

even without the vulnerability the planes have too much hp and restore to quickly most of the time I don't even use it just because it doesn't make a difference unless you come across a large group of ships that have good AA

@AnnihilateUTM

Ай бұрын

@@steamedgames5148 makes sense.

This stuff cracks me up because I remember back in the day when you and Bull-vi were streaming together and you kept saying that you can't wait for carriers. He laughed at you and said you'll regret it.

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

Hope you're doing well man. 💗

Don’t you love how your DD is hiding over there behind you not spotting much, and surely not killing other DD.

Yeah. I made the mistake of playing Yamato twice this update. Both time my team were way too passive and I got farmed by a CV in the first game, and people hiding behind islands the second. This is the most anti- battleship update in this game's history honestly. (I've played since the beta)

I will say you should always turn into a torpedo strike, not away. It is funny, it was the CV relaunch that caused to to quit the PC version of WOWS. The PC version went from a surface warfare game to a carrier damage farming simulator.

This sums up most of my games now if I spawn on the oppo teams carrier side

funny video . first day of the update i played a bunch of games and they all went pretty much like this one . i submitted a ticket to war gaming said thanks for ruining the game and havent played since

Hello, spartan, incredible game, yeap this update of carriers is just f...up.. . But still at the end finishing on the top is just hilarious. 🇨🇭🇵🇹

lil side note:carriers that focus one ship,1.disregard the rest of their team,2. are very desperate,and 3. will deplane themselves if said ship is just sprinkled with AMURICA

Judging by what I've just seen the fix can't come soon enough

Make the carriers have only the amount of planes that the carrier historically has Then make them not be able to launch planes when they're taking fire.

also, give the spotting back to carriers, nerf the plane restoration speed and remove the gas mechanic and cv would be in a good spot. they were perfectly ok before the rework but every non-cv player were complaining about cvs, well here you go. flying damage farmers who don't care about minimap spotting red ships for blue ships who won't make good use of the minimap info

That kitakaze though, just wow. Shows you how 1 player can screw an entire flank. That's why I want them to implement a post battle rating system.

I saw the Hotfix patch notes. And it pretty much did nothing to fix the plane restoration rate or damage rate. Still not worth playing this game anymore. The actions in this video is clear proof.

Elbing guns are no joke! Can Do great chunk damage against BB's and certainly can citadel cruisers.

Carriers weren't that bad before this update, a decent player could get work done. But now its a nightmare unless you build into AA. Considering i see carriers every single match now the only things I take out are US cruisers built as heavy AA like Salem, AL Montpelier, Rochester, and Baltimore. BBs just aren't worth playing right now. If you get focused by the enemy CV that's it, you're dead unless you blob with your team and overwhelm the squadrons but that can lead to easier targets from enemy surface ships, and the destroyers that can pretty much remain invisible thanks to only being found through luck or radar.

Ok. I get it now. This update sucks. Unless you are an American BB, you have no chance in shooting down planes. I got the Wichita recently, and aircraft are a lot more annoying now. In addition, they are WAY TOO FAST so it won’t take a few seconds to get focused by a carrier. Plus the rentals, now they’re everywhere. I really hope WG does the right thing and either buffs AA or reworks the rework

@splice9503

Ай бұрын

Nope too late….. you’re cancelled

This was fine.. everything is ok 🔥🔥

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

Yes everything was in fact under control

This update is why i like gamepass, currently playing Jedi Survivor. Carriers in real life are overpowered and changed navy combat forever, for a video game they are complerely broken because it removes the risk/reward gameplay of the other ship classes, theres just rewards for playing a carrier. People saying this update are fine are quite happy to throw away a good game balance and playerbase for selfish reasons. When im playing the objective in my destroyer in lucky if i get past 100k in any given game and ill be top of the scoreboard.

@Mike-8404

Ай бұрын

I feel your pain. As a BB main, I haven't had more than a 20k game since Monday. I'm dead before the 10 minute mark

@WhoDaresWinso7

Ай бұрын

@Mike-8404 I had a zeiten game where I died within a minute. That hurt the most cause there was nothing I could do either. It was awful.

In my opinion if the carriers where gonna be buffed (cus lets be honest, carriers feel absolutely powerful rn) they just needed some plane HP and that's it. But they gave planes more ordenace and more planes per squadron. I think that ships need an AA buff to overall damage, because rn BB AA is dogsheet, cruiser AA is bad too, but cruisers have the mobility to dodge a lot of the ordenace bieng dropped. But I think spotting has been the main issue, because most DD players don't spot anything and carriers used to be the best spotting for the teams when DDs where cowarding behind islands. But hopefully I can play cruisers again on monday, because playing cruisers these past few days (especially island hopping cruisers like Shimanto) has been a pain in the no no space. Edit: and keep in mind, AA in american ships is especially fenomenal, and it's still useless against the carriers at their tiers, even California that has more than 90 AA in tier V is horrible against carriers (except the german one for some reason based on my experience). It's been bad XD

Hey spartan I was that lushun crazy seeing myself in a vid sorry for being bad lol but thanks for the AP tip.

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

It's all good brother no worries I've been caught by the he shattering on certain destroyers myself which is why I mention it

I was in a match with a Russian carrier and on multiple occasion there was multiple wave in the air at once, it seems totally broken at the moment

No lie, I came back to WOW after a few years and started my painful grind on American BB's. Decided to go back and just play the Chester, crusiers are well balanced now... Anyway felt like switching it up the other day in a New York, sorry this is where everyone will tell me you can't use such an OP ship. I know... Lasted a minute in the game got one slavo off in a tier 5 battle!! Death by carrier it wasn't even close. Decided not to play anything but cruisers for the forseeable future.

I really do think if a ship is spotted from the carrier in open water with no obstacles in front of it. It should let you shoot it or at least a certain radius. I had the same issue. I’m in the cap with a dd 6km in front of me and not do anything with my engine knocked out

Well Spartan don’t you know in ww2 carries made battleships obsolete so it’s only right they’re overpowered in game… no but seriously thank goodness they are pushing a hot fix for this mess

At 6:40 you found the WG new plane mechanic ninja planes with better concealment the DDs, or its a test for the july crossover that must be with Star Trek as these planes have Klingon cloaking device it drops when they attack,

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

😄

@animegamesmoviesandotherst3037

Ай бұрын

@@SpartanElite43 I forgot am doing the day d things got the ship with the cards but I got more cards to get is it worth getting them or not?

Insanity gameplay Spartan! Vermont is a monster

Hey Spartan, thx for showing this match. Yesterday i had the first Lobby without any BB's....guess why 😅

This was brutal. Ive had so many games like this.

What a horrid experience spartan. I dont know if i coukd have held myself together 😮

This game sucks at the moment. I do not think the “nerfs” to carriers in “2.1” will be enough, far from it. WG need to rollback the update that made the game an experience of total misery.

What they should do is buff ship's AA range maybe 8k to 9k. Plus I don't think it's right that cruisers and BB fighter planes don't spot ship's they shouldn't got a nerf. I think CV fight planes for dive bombers should put a heal out for it's team members while they are flying over friendly ship's and the torpedoes planes could put up a smoke screen while they are flying over there flight path

@AdolfHitler-pm3lc

Ай бұрын

8-9k is basically the spotting distance from the air for many ships, 8-9k is a MASSIVE radius for an overlapping AA bubble, it would be impossible to fly the planes anywhere. I think the damage should be much more potent, or increase the range by somewhere between 1-3 KMs

don't celebrate too soon. hotfix basically only nerfs the US bombplanes and lowers the overall max speed for every plane of every carrier in the game

With doing nothing but shot planes getting top of the leaderboard, and they say secondary hits is easy XP. And ya thank you for the 2nd video.

Carriers did not obsolete the battleships....they just took over the primary role that battleships used to have. American battleships had no trouble shooting down planes during ww2 and there was a reason they were brought back so many time after ww2. Battleships as a support role were Fantastic.

They need to do something indeed. Because if there is something worse than being focused in a BB by a CV it is to be focused in a destroyer by those planes… For BB I think they need to upgrade belt armor protection for torpedo, and for destroyer upgrade AA defenses and their range maybe…

Ive seen this map too much lately

Before carrier update the enemy CV ruin my battle as a destroyer by attacking me all the time - in this case the two smoke isn't enough. Now with this update enemy CVs don't have to do that because the kill my destroyer with one good attack. Just great! I remember when on PC carriers had only map view to control their planes. In that time a good carrier player could affect the centire battle even if the AA booster consumable of the ships was standalone so they didn't have to choose instead of any other one. With this plane view the aiming became way more better. But as we see it wasn't enough... The console version became ruined enough when CVs came into but now... It is ridiculous.

Haven't picked up a controller in two days. I refuse. Let me know when it's "fixed."

But Spartan, WW2 brought about the rise of the CV making BB's absolutely obsolete...and please be advised that I didn't say this in the funny voice that you showcased, which in a way, made you sound like a supporting character from Spongebob Squarepants. As always I'm happy to help with some historical facts that your patience could do without. 😜 All of us here at the Goodyear Rubber & Tire Company, greatly appreciate all that you do! Check your tire pressure weekly...

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

Lol

Elbing is able to pen battleships thinner Armour because of the fuse on it takes little Armour to detonate so superstructures are easy to get damage off of especially in American and German battleships it can over pen destroyers if they are closer and flat broadside but most of the time destroyer players are angled witch gives the ap shell more time to detonate in the ship

Its a Irritating update, but we have to adapt to the new way of playing the game. So maybe, first all destroyers have to focus on sinking the opponents carrier. That means that other ships have to protect the carrier. The carrier will be the centre of the strike group. And the strike group has to stick together but not to close to each other. Playing the game with the carrier, i only attack lone wulfs like you because then less planes wil be shot down. Stick in a group,or better say formation, and a carrier doesnt have a chance. To much air defence.

I see many Positives and Negatives The Spotting Mechanic, to me at least, seems more realistic, as in, say, WW2, if a aircraft squadron sees a ship, the task force is likely hundreds of miles away, so they can't physically see it, they just have a position to report If you understand, you understand, not everyone will and that's ok . One thing I'd suggest is the Spotter and Fighter consumables full spot enemies for the ship which they were launched from, and give a position report on the mini map for everyone else, making a old Fighter spotting over an Island tactic possible again, while staying true to the spotting mechanic change

I'm confused how the kitikaze wasn't on the bottom of the scoreboard.

yeah, very hard to balance that all together… cause damage mechanics are still being arcade style. If there was another model of damage, then maybe playroles would be different

Honestly Carrers have been lacking for awhile. Before this update they were just there. Most of the time they were absolute dog water. I think it's a good change to give the some livability but I do see what you mean. If wargaming just increased/tweked the damage/ hit rate of the AA for all ships I think this would be a good thing and actually up the playability of the game

Ive sacrificed the first slot for AA upgrade on the BBs ive played and it seems to be enough of a counter especially on the USN BBs, start tickling the flies a bit further out causes them to drop a bit earlier a little more time to dodge, i got absoljtely smashed when i beached in my Alabama though so dont stop moving

Your worst day looks like my normal average everyday. LOL

Every Game is the Worst Game I've ever played in WOWL

That was a dream game, I had one yesterday in The South Carolina where I spawned on a flank, was picked on by the carrier and got to make 1 long range shot at a dd (which missed) before the carrier (A Rhein) sank me. I had no AA so no planes shot down. And yes, I did dodge some torps but the b**tard just kept coming back!

Ey disculpa queria saber que piensas de los submarinos, parece que a este paso los pondran muy pronto y queria saber tu opinion sobre ellos, yo creo que revolucionaran el juego y equilibraran mas el poder entre las naves y por cierto si no les gusta que los portaaviones sean tan fuertes es porqué no los usan y no tienen idea de lo dificil que era usarlos antes literalmente era frustrante si no les gusta el acoso aereo trabajen en equipo ningun escuadron resiste el fuego antiaereo de 3 naves!

CVs ruining the game? Welcome console players, we've been dealing with this shit for years on PC, it's absolutely terrible.

Lol Spartan, that is not Harry Potter's castle! It is the Château Frontenac in Québec City!!!

Havent played after the cv rework was done an i dont plan to until they do something about this. Ive said it since when the patch notes came out: this cv rework will brake so many game mechanics and gameplay that it will ruin the game.

@DietCokeKillar

Ай бұрын

Same here but there is a fix in few days as per WG.

@Potato-pl5cr

Ай бұрын

​@@DietCokeKillara "nerf" as you will. I guess they're supposed to be slowing the plans down, but imma guess if they do that they'll just give the planes more HP to compensate

@Steve19055

Ай бұрын

@@DietCokeKillar the problem with the (fix) they are working on is that carrier players still smash their face with the controller and do insane damage to other ships. The problem is not the speed alone or damage, its the fact that it doesent matter if you loose planes because you Get new ones way to fast. One should be forced to pick carefully what ship to attack over the risk of loosing planes and as it is today there is no risk.

Seriously one thing they could do is put defensive AA on all battleship and make AA moint indestructible

EVERY MATCH IVE HAD HAS BEEN LIKE THIS !!

But Spartan 😂😂😂 the carriers in ww2 sunk the biggest battleship to ever exist. The Yamato! Despite what people say she had a vast assortment of aa. Granted i think it took a ridiculous amount of aircraft to actually sink her i think it was 2 or 300 planes. Despite her many guns even she was fully supplied with crew and ammo the result would remain the same. Also 45' Enterprise fully equipped and supplied would do the same to Iowa.

That kitakaze didn’t watch your mutsuki vid. San Diego???

This is a perfect example...what a fantastic gaming experience!! 🎮😵💥 But GGz anyway ❤

Thanks to god wg announced that on momday will change stats in carriers

For a aa build Friesland loving this carrier update just shot down 70+ planes base xp 4425

Guess i gotta get my carrier fix in before monday. I have no idea how they are gonna fix this short of reverting back to how it was. Im really enjoying the extra bombs, though.

They gotta make it balanced no reason a full sqaudron of planes should be able to hit me if i got 100 aa

Anyone else check to see if they were in the game with Spartan?

Un-installed until further notice ..I'll get my fix watching vids

Facing your trauma can be very therapeutic - did you find this therapeutic? 🙂Congrats on the Clear Skies 😉 Funny thing - when the horrors of this update started to reveal themselves, I did think about the real world dynamic that changed when CVs entered the picture, and the affect on battleships. However, didn't say anything, because I didn't want the collective hatred of all the battleship mains I follow bearing down on me.

It’s always odd to change a game so drastically. But the complaints could be said for instant deletes for cruisers from a BB. And is this problem as abundant within lower tiers?

I wouldn't call Mondays hot fix a fix They're buffing the damage on most of the carriers and decreasing accuracy and a small amount of squadron health. That won't actually fix anything lol

@Rylo5

Ай бұрын

Exactly, the fact that they think that patch is a "fix" shows you how out of touch with reality they are at WG

Having games like this most of the time and I play cv,s and bb,s mainly teams are just crap

The game is doomed if this nonsense is not corrected very soon. The nerfs to damage output is not enough. The main problem for me is the plane regeneration that has to be dialled down. We find one ship now dominating the whole game is ridiculous. Thanks for the vid Spartan👍⚓

I only wish i had a legendary tier carrier since the midway and the other japenese one look completely broken since the rework. I managed to use my saipan 1 week after months of grinding and get glorious credits. was averaging around 800k a match and now im barely hitting 6 or 700k trying my absolute best.. will see how bad it is again after todays rework. I love how they are nerfing torpedos considering they werent touched to begin with in the recent changes.. gotta love wargaming

Frustrating things and mindless ppl Now CV is Op because some entities think so CV is Op because of the new introduced fuel mechanic, no choice to grind Destroyers anymore, because of this limitations, simply it looks like cv's are op because they don't have no choice to attack or take the support role what they had before to spot destroyers So this means cv's need to attack the first most opputunitty target (first spotted) so that will be Battle Ships It's that simpke From next Monday destroyers will be twice as OP as usual, nobody realize this Just to clarify Carriers are from next monday more nerfed with damage, Torpedao damage, and HP down grade The only thing that really changed is that destroyers are not spotted for the team b and cv's are less damage outputting ships then ever before So baby's & Lady's you better start crying now and ask your Wargaming daddy to nerf destroyers and this will lead to ppl quiting the game in long term Have a nice weekend❤

I had games like it cv focusing you had it to spartan see what happens Monday 😎👍

I've quit this game for 4 months because of carriers I might be doing it again

All they had to do was add fuel increase AA dpm nerf Saipan and Kaga a bit it would be fine

Rewire your inner game , it’s changed

So Destroyer captains rejoice with this patch. Battleship captains hating this patch.

I've gotten games like that before. You're thinking to yourself. Can I even play this game? Am I any good?

Why arent palyers getting clear sky medals even after shooting down more than 20 planes?

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

They doubled the requirement to 40 planes for clear sky

I saw a video today with a 398k damage game with a carrier

Just think about how many new players they lost to this update.AA is useless in low tier

I feel slightly attacked with the adapt and overcome comments LOL... And I'll have to say I have to eat my own words because I've been trying to adapt and have not been able to overcome

@SpartanElite43

Ай бұрын

lol

can you make an other video of the new campaign ship Provence?

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