The Worlds Most Crooked Railroad - The Uintah Railway

Ghost tracking the amazing Uintah Railway, From Mack Colorado over Baxter Pass. We are back riding the California Zephyr to Grand Junction, with a side trip in search of the elusive yet amazing Uintah Railway, over the Book Cliffs in search of spikes and other rusty metal as we explore the abandoned grade. Also a quick trip to Cross Orchards which is home to a great collection of old Uintah rolling stock.
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From Wikipedia:
The railway company was founded in 1903 as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Gilson Asphaltum Company. Construction began at a connection with the Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad at what became known as Mack, Colorado. Twenty-eight miles of track was laid following West Salt Wash Creek upstream to the company town of Atchee, Colorado, named after a chief of the Ute people. Atchee served as a division point with maintenance shops for railway equipment. From Atchee, six miles of 7.5 percent grade were required to climb the Book Cliffs to Baxter Pass at an elevation of 8,437 feet (2,572 m). From the summit of Baxter Pass, there were seven miles of 5 percent downhill grade to Wendella, Colorado, followed by twelve miles of 3 percent or shallower grades down Evacuation Creek to the Black Dragon Mine just west of the Utah border. The Black Dragon Vein of Gilsonite was exposed across the ground surface for a distance of 4 miles (6.4 km), and averaged 6 feet (1.8 m) wide for half of that distance. Trains began hauling Gilsonite from the Black Dragon Mine in October, 1904. Shay locomotives pulled freight trains over Baxter Pass between the Dragon Mine and Atchee, and 2-8-0 engines pulled the freight trains between Atchee and Mack.
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Ten miles of track were laid in 1911 on a one percent grade down Evacuation Creek from Dragon, Utah, to the Rainbow Mine near Watson, Utah. A new 2-8-2 locomotive was built to pull freight trains between Watson and Wendella. The new locomotive was more efficient than Shay locomotives on that section of track, but it could not negotiate the steep grades and sharp curves over Baxter Pass between Wendella and Atchee. The railroad had operated passenger trains since 1905 consisting of a 0-6-2 tank locomotive pulling a single combine car between Mack and Dragon or Watson. This passenger train service was discontinued in 1921
For much of the 1920s the Uintah was headed by Lucian Sprague, a railroad executive who later became well known for orchestrating the dramatic turnaround of the bankrupt Minneapolis and St. Louis Railway.[6] In 1926 the railroad purchased an articulated locomotive, #50, which was specifically designed to handle the extreme curvature and steep grades of Baxter Pass. The idea was that this new locomotive would do away with the need to change engines at Atchee and Wendella. The single articulated locomotive could move as many cars as two Shay locomotives from Rainbow to Atchee, and made the trip in half the time. After some initial modifications, this engine proved to be such a success that in 1928 the railroad purchased a sister locomotive, #51. These were the only narrow gauge simple articulated locomotives sold for use in the United States.
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The railroad lasted until 1939 when trucks took over hauling the Gilsonite. At that time, the rails were pulled up and the towns abandoned. Most of the railway's locomotives were scrapped immediately; the two famous articulateds were sold to the Sumpter Valley Railway in Oregon, and later went to Guatemala, where they were dismantled. Today all that remains of the Uintah are the cellar pits of some of the buildings, the shell of the machine shop in Atchee, a few pieces of rolling stock, and part of the company hotel in Mack
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  • @genesismanning7403
    @genesismanning74037 жыл бұрын

    My 5 year old son wanted me to write this to you :) "I like Trains, thank you for making these train videos" He has learned so much watching your videos and tells everyone we know about the information and history he has learned here. I wanted to let you know what a giant celebrity you have become in our house. We have gone on lots of trains, my son has been a fan since he could walk. Rio Grand is what he wants to do for his Birthday, ever since he saw your videos about the Rio Grand! He thought it was very important we message you today :) thnkyou!!

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m so sorry I missed seeing this!! I get so many comments and sometimes I just miss things. Sorry!!! Hopefully you see this!!! Thanks!!!

  • @glitterresin

    @glitterresin

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ToyManTelevision That's ok! He's 11 now, still watches your channel all the time and still loves trains :) thanks for your reply. It will make his day :) -genesis

  • @robertemmons2260
    @robertemmons22605 жыл бұрын

    Last week (January 31st 2019) I was getting tires put on my Jeep when I had noticed a jar of metal junk that has been found in flat tires. I had mentioned that they're missing a railroad spike. The younger salez associate had said that "there are no railroads around here." I had remarked that there use to be, and it was called the Uintah Railway that had ran from Mack, Colo. and went to Dragon, Watkins, and Rainbow. At that time the older sales associate had told the young gal that "yes, actually there was" and had mentioned that she was born in Rainbow! She had also spoke of how her mother would put her onboard and travel back and forth on the old Baldwins. Her name is Lillian. She works at Walmart in Vernal, UT. It was a pleasure, and an honor, to have been able to speak to a person who was from there, and to share her memories of the old railway. EDIT; correction, Lillian was born in Vernal and had lived in Rainbow as a child for a few years. She is the grandmother of a good friend of mine. She had just turned 80 this month (March 2020) and is still working a full 40 hour shift at Walmart!

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith7997 жыл бұрын

    That 7% grade on a hard turn is astonishing. Thanks for showing it. You make a good team. Keep 'em coming...

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    It seems the curve was a bit tighter when they ran only Shays, but to get the articulated locos around they widened them. By a few feet! Still making a 180 in half a football field!

  • @stephensmith799

    @stephensmith799

    7 жыл бұрын

    Toy Man Television Hah. I have the LGB Uintah caboose. The loco will have to wait!

  • @stephensmith799

    @stephensmith799

    7 жыл бұрын

    TIGHTER?! Strewth....

  • @erikcornelison6985
    @erikcornelison69856 жыл бұрын

    I own the "Uintah Train Station" you mentioned in this video. Come visit us in Mack.

  • @cklosi

    @cklosi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice! My great grandmother Kelly used to own it

  • @robertemmons2260

    @robertemmons2260

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to stop by and visit sometime.

  • @Zantandar
    @Zantandar6 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video. The interation between the husband and wife make it really special

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    THANKS!!!!!!

  • @atari67
    @atari677 жыл бұрын

    This channel deserves more exposure. Great stuff!

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    atari67 thanks! You can help us with exposure by sharing it with everybody you know and even a few people you don't know wouldn't hurt

  • @carlsorensennb7c750
    @carlsorensennb7c7507 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I watched this 5 minutes after you posted it. That is a record for me. I enjoyed seeing the Unitah RR. I didn't realize the Mallet was so small. Too bad the Sumpter didn't save one to operate, wouldn't that had been fun.

  • @kerridillon3120
    @kerridillon31207 жыл бұрын

    Another 4 star☆☆☆ video Sunday with a very interesting story! I love learning about all these trains & the grand tour of the GarageMahal! Dale & Karyn ...you two are so much dang fun!!!

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan7 жыл бұрын

    Always informative and fun. Thanks

  • @TomsTrainsandThings
    @TomsTrainsandThings7 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. Loved that you can walk through the ruins and still find artifacts.

  • @karynfelix-the-Cat
    @karynfelix-the-Cat7 жыл бұрын

    So much fun looking for artifacts! Difficult to believe that these little trains ran through such unforgiving country... I'm reminded of the childhood story, of "The Little Engine That Could"..... and these articulated engines certainly did!!

  • @jonheller2307
    @jonheller23077 жыл бұрын

    another well produced slice of history. great job. thanks.

  • @jwrailve3615
    @jwrailve36152 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got ZERO CLUE how I’ve never subscribed after half a decade of watching most all of your uploads. That crazy grading and sharp radius a curve up the mountain didn’t even look possible to be once for a railway it just seems impossible and the engineers had to have ….z of steel for such a task. Sure wish I’d get more time to travel to these mountain and logging abandoned railroads.

  • @tjorgensen2007
    @tjorgensen20077 жыл бұрын

    Looks like fun to walk and find artifacts along the way. Your videos are always great!!! Thank you for sharing.

  • @saltleywsc
    @saltleywsc7 жыл бұрын

    another cracking video guys!!!

  • @LarryWGrant-dw6jo
    @LarryWGrant-dw6jo7 жыл бұрын

    Great episode! Really enjoyed seeing the Uintah Railway - - or what's still left of it. Also enjoyed seeing the LGB model of the Uintah mally.

  • @gregsmith1719
    @gregsmith17197 жыл бұрын

    Another great history video - very interesting! Please keep it up!

  • @colinming4131
    @colinming41317 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another really interesting video! Cheers...

  • @46619TAB
    @46619TAB6 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, thanks for another GREAT video! After returning from our long distance Chicago to LA trip and back on Amtrak's Texas Eagle, I found myself watching railroad documentary films on KZread, the railroads have quite a history! And then I began finding yours. NICE film, thanks guys!!

  • @upsd402
    @upsd4027 жыл бұрын

    Great video, one of your best. What a amazing railroad. Again, great video.

  • @emeraldvalleywoodworking
    @emeraldvalleywoodworking7 жыл бұрын

    Love the history. Thanks, guys.

  • @PhilGawron74
    @PhilGawron745 жыл бұрын

    Wow super informative love it. Railroad history rocks

  • @bigwoz78
    @bigwoz785 жыл бұрын

    Just fascinating, you two are the best. Thanks for sharing

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Do share if you think about it. Always looking for more viewers. Thanks!!

  • @matthewlastrapes8104
    @matthewlastrapes81046 жыл бұрын

    Great job on the video loved it

  • @dougcostello9064
    @dougcostello90647 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Great layout. Doug Costello thanks!!!!

  • @johnbeck3270
    @johnbeck32702 жыл бұрын

    The LGB articulated loco is slightly undersized the drivers were 42” Bachmann’s big hauler, which is a model of the Tweetsie 4-6-0 has 44” drivers. By narrow gauge standards these were huge. The C&S considered buying these when the Uintah ceased operations. They declined when they would have to practically rebuild their entire line. My Dad hauled Gilsonite by truck out on the old Uintah’s grade, after the railroad was abandoned.He told me he had never seen so many flat tires from railroad spikes. It was shipped in bags. Later, American Gilsonite transported it by bulk tank trucks to Graig, Co. bagged and loaded into rail cars. Loved the video, it’s really fun seeing places near where I grew up and know and heared about so much.

  • @mikealexander4166
    @mikealexander41667 жыл бұрын

    Like this video and all the others I've watched. Thanks!

  • @jhen529
    @jhen5296 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely enjoy every one of your videos, keep it up guys!!!

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!! Heading back there this summer

  • @vincentsaunders4773
    @vincentsaunders477314 сағат бұрын

    Nice presentation on a Long lost Colorado-Utah raiload that went from Mack, CO to Watson, UT back in the late 1800 and the early 1900's. It served the mines at Carbonara, Atchee, Dragon, Rainbow and Watson. They also hauled Gilsonite (asphaltium) by Wagon teams, and later trucks, to the American Gilsonite Refinery near Bonanza, UT, northwest of Rangely, CO until the mines closed. For good reading, read the book "Uintah Railway: The Gilsonite Route" available in the Uintah County Library in Vernal, UT and several Adjacent county Libraries (Mesa-Grand Junction) in Colorado.

  • @detroitredneckdetroitredne6674
    @detroitredneckdetroitredne66747 жыл бұрын

    I did not know you were a treasure hunter but wow what a treasure and a heck of an adventure thank you so much for bringing us along

  • @struck2soon
    @struck2soon7 жыл бұрын

    Interesting history lesson, thanks!

  • @JD_79
    @JD_796 жыл бұрын

    Really was a fascinating railway. Grew up overnight hauling such an odd product in the middle of nowhere up some of sharpest and steepest rails. As a resident of the area I've been collecting models waiting until I have the time/room to build my Uintah Railway layout. From a modeler's perspective, the fact that they ran an assortment of odd ball equipment just makes it so fun.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Weird and interesting. Gotta love that!!

  • @timothyboles6457
    @timothyboles64573 жыл бұрын

    The Uintah is one of my favorite railroads. I have the book. Just crazy grades and ridiculous curves

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    3 жыл бұрын

    We’re planning to drive the route again in a few weeks.

  • @SleeTheSloth
    @SleeTheSloth6 жыл бұрын

    Just a quick note. As my health issues are flaring up today and I feel pretty lousy, Once aging I'm re watching some of your videos and finding comfort in losing my self ion them. Thank you and keep up the good work.

  • @jadonschneider9933
    @jadonschneider99332 жыл бұрын

    Ugh you two are so cute! I loved watching your video, so informative. It’s truly fun learning about this railroad from you guys. Keep up the good work!

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fun day. Long story to follow up on. Soon.

  • @jonnybeck6723
    @jonnybeck67236 жыл бұрын

    Charming, insane even but but never boring... cheers

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    There was the one... But we try to not be boring.

  • @bernierodriguez662
    @bernierodriguez662 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great video, so much info I've always loved trains. I grew up around southern Pacific yard in El Serino Alhambra area. On my dad's side the men work the track gangs, shop Forman track walkers. My mother side the women work on passengers cars linen , Curtains house keeping, this is when Santa Be still had passenger service. Amtrak isn't even close to the service SantaFe railroad gave. Oh and the food they served was just out of this world. I've been watching the channel for a while keep up the great work would love to meet you and Karen at a train show. We have train show and museum here in Perris California in october, the pumpkin train. Thanks again

  • @billvassar7473
    @billvassar74737 жыл бұрын

    great video enjoyed it. must be fun to screw around like you do lol.

  • @joshridderhoff2050
    @joshridderhoff20507 жыл бұрын

    What a great, fun video! Too few people know the amazing story of the Uintah Railway, was so excited when I saw this pop up in my recommendations; picked up a new subscriber for sure! If you get back to the Pass, be sure to look for Columbine Park next to the grade just on the west side of Baxter Pass: it's a grassy, open park where trains used to stop for picnics & such, and there are a few cabins still mostly standing there (at least when my uncle & I made the trip twenty-something years ago), and remnants of a water tower just up the hill. Makes a great place to roll out sleeping bags & spend the night. ;)

  • @sgtwylde1996
    @sgtwylde19967 жыл бұрын

    I'll probably grab one of those mallets for my garden railroad in live steam, I just love the look of them

  • @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
    @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan6 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see a video of your newly built Garden Railroad

  • @drummerboy1390
    @drummerboy13907 жыл бұрын

    I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm in the UK, so it's great to find out about places I'd not normally get to see. I'm also a history graduate and love the bits of history you put into your videos, even the obscure, middle of nowhere places. The more obscure the better it is for me. I'm also laid up with a badly broken leg and can't get out the house, so you and your good Lady are helping me no end. Keep 'em coming. Tom.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    GET WELL!!

  • @detroitredneckdetroitredne6674
    @detroitredneckdetroitredne66747 жыл бұрын

    once again thank you for your adventures I was admiring your antique telephones on the wall I have the one on the bottom the generator I use it to ease the pain of the arthritis in my hands

  • @tom7601
    @tom76017 жыл бұрын

    That LGB Articulated makes me smile. :>)

  • @jamosgarage9006
    @jamosgarage900611 ай бұрын

    Great Video. I live in Grand Junction and love taking day trips to Baxter Pass area.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    11 ай бұрын

    Us too! Great day trip

  • @jingles9657
    @jingles96572 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I finally found this again, I remembered some railroad with an absolutely insane grade as I was looking into Colorado Narrow Gauge stuff, turns out I roll through Grand Junction alot, wonder if I can fit a semi truck in their parking lot to go check it out!

  • @suneolsson9815
    @suneolsson98153 жыл бұрын

    ABSOLUTE always TUM ups for all films Best Regards From Good Old Bad Cold Sweden

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi! Check out garagemahall tomorrow. Avoid the COVID!!

  • @PeterCPRail8748
    @PeterCPRail87486 жыл бұрын

    That is one impressive little railroad lost to time. Thanks for sharing anither great tid bit of US rail history .

  • @bobbybaldeagle702
    @bobbybaldeagle7027 жыл бұрын

    You kids are out having way to much fun!!! LOL,LOL Thanks for another take me back in time video it was awesome to see those tight turns the trains had to make and on such a steep incline like that... I just wonder how many people drive that road really know that it once was a rail line... Lord will some day I'll be back out fining these places myself again until then I'll be here wait looking forward to another awesome video... BBE..

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Bobby Baldeagle boy have we been having too much fun I am beat. Just back from Cheyenne and heading directly after Southern California! Rob is running his railroad !

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Are commenting system has gotten somehow screwed up, I mean it's just KZread comment in system, but somehow it's not working quite right. It threw away a whole bunch of responses. No idea why

  • @bobbybaldeagle702

    @bobbybaldeagle702

    7 жыл бұрын

    Toy man... I had the same problem. I didn't get no notices for days then WHAM!!! I had 63 of them took me 2 hours to get through them all... LOL... Which was ok I got nothing better to do but lay here ant way!!! LOL,LOL,LOL

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    You Tube can't help themselves, they just NEED to tweek till it breaks.

  • @startrek91481
    @startrek914817 жыл бұрын

    you two have some great videos, but this one might be the best so far.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    WOW Thanks!!! We sure had an amazing day on this one.

  • @robertemmons2260
    @robertemmons22605 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video! I live in Vernal UT and have travelled over Baxter pass many times by Jeep or pickup. I've found many narrow gauge spikes over the years. Ever since that I've heard of this railway I've always been fascinated by it. Thank you for your hard work and time on bringing this video to us.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    5 жыл бұрын

    As long as you don’t find a spike with your tire.

  • @robertemmons2260

    @robertemmons2260

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its ironic that you say that. There have been times where oilfield trucks have picked up a spike, and the drivers have become very baffled as to why there is a railroad spike on a road that is many miles out in the middle of nowhere.

  • @stevenmetzger3385
    @stevenmetzger33852 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @darthmurdoch
    @darthmurdoch7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the water cars my lgb collection was wondering

  • @guytressler7455
    @guytressler74556 жыл бұрын

    Very,very good video. I was born in October 1940 on the Bald Eagle mts in, pa.. about 40 feet from the penncy railroad. I was born at home. I think the first word I ever said was, TRAIN. I still enjoy trains. Keep up the good work, Toy Man and Mrs.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    WOW!!! My Aunt and Great Grandmother lived on opposite sides of the UP yards, with the D and RG main next to that. The road crossing was protected by a guy in a little shanty, he'd sit there reading Life or Look until a train came and then step out with his flag. We would walk across the crossing, about 18 tracks, if we took a bit too much interest in the view, or lanterns, which happened often, we would be scolded and told to move on... Odd... That still happens 60 years later. Still getting kicked off the right of way.

  • @ThomasWLalor
    @ThomasWLalor6 жыл бұрын

    Delightful, personable, interesting video.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!! Love making these videos. Love chasing down old railroads, and this is the best we have found. Rio Grand Southern 2nd. But so much left, so much "junk" on the old grade. Miles of rusty metal bits.

  • @cklosi
    @cklosi6 жыл бұрын

    My great grandmother kelly owned and lived in that hotel in mack, she operated a rock shop in the back half of it. It looks alot different now then it did when I visited there during the summers I spent there as a kid. When she bought it they found big leather bound guest sign in books and old photos photos in the attic that were eventually used for the book "the guilsonite route".

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cool story. The hotel burned. About half of it. The guy there now told us it was also used as the station. But not so I think. There was a depot across the street which was so small you needed to go outside to turn around. So I’ll bet most people did wait in the hotel.

  • @vicreece8681
    @vicreece86816 жыл бұрын

    Love the name for your garage/storage area

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын

    Uintah Railways? Yes, always been intah railways! That hairpin and 7.5% grade looks like it was made for mule trains! Usually requires a rack for that steep, very interesting little railway.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    Жыл бұрын

    Always amazed they got trains around that. And not just shays! Articulated locomotives!!

  • @robertemmons7865
    @robertemmons78656 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this video with us! I live in Vernal. I've driven over Baxter Pass several times, and I still get excited every time that I travel over the pass and on the old RR route.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    What a great old railroad.

  • @robertemmons7865

    @robertemmons7865

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree! When traveling over the old Dragon line or the Rainbow line you can still gather up some of the old RR spikes.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    There is more STUFF on this line... That we found a tie plate off a switch, with the name Unita cast into it, AMAZING!!!!!!!!

  • @robertemmons7865

    @robertemmons7865

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I wish that I had found a tie plate that had Uintah cast into it! I have found four plates, and they were all really rusty, but I had still kept them anyway.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Love collecting old rust

  • @alanhardman2447
    @alanhardman24477 жыл бұрын

    Well, here's a new addition to my bucket list! Time to go home - I have a 13-year-old grandson who LOVES old trains and railroads, and I was born in Duchesne, UT a couple years ago... Seems like a worthwhile trip to me, since I haven't been back to Duchesne since about 1972 or 3.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    You need 4 wheel drive for the pass. The rest is easy

  • @robertfarquhar1265

    @robertfarquhar1265

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi i drove it in a dry time in a hurtz reant a car toyota i think it was,if MR.Hurtz had have know he would have keeled over hah Bob Farquhar

  • @jeanneuzarhudson8207
    @jeanneuzarhudson82077 жыл бұрын

    Opps; it pays to watch the w-h-o-l-e adventure before writing a comment. Just not seconds after resuming this adventure there goes Dale up that "snazzy" library ladder into the toy loft to pull out his locomotive. Well, for an old duffer such as myself, that sucker was awesome and flawless. Classic, yet pricy LGB. Last time I go to the lobby for popcorn during the move. Carry on with this Massive Screwing around. G & J

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jeanne M. Uzar hi. Our comments have been messed up. We have been in Wyoming, at first snowed in in a motel6 and then at depot days!! Sae the big boy! But you tube did something to our comments and a bunch never posted and then were eaten by the you tube god. Anyway hi!!!

  • @jeanneuzarhudson8207

    @jeanneuzarhudson8207

    7 жыл бұрын

    Technology. You guys be good. "I'm Tom BoDette and we'll leave the light on for ya.." Didn't say anything about snow in those, folksy commercials.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    When you are in a blizzard that sign can look darn good!

  • @drummerboy1390

    @drummerboy1390

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jeanne M. Uzar I

  • @alejandrobarraganlopez3231
    @alejandrobarraganlopez32315 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your vídeos but this specially is special due to all this exploration journey is pure railroad archaelogy, something that isn't common to see in this days, down the border we try to keep as many of these tresures safe and preserved as we could, Thanks a lot to show this great adventure of a little piece of RR history.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Do keep things safe there. People do seem to be loosing any interest in history (and for that matter civility) So many interesting railroad along the border and south of the border. We really want to see the relics in Central America. Many interesting narrow gauge lines and old locomotives. .

  • @alejandrobarraganlopez3231

    @alejandrobarraganlopez3231

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ToyManTelevision a group of friends and me proudly can share with all you that we keep in operational conditions a narrow gauge steam locomotive, a Baldwin 2-8-0 built in 1921 The 279 and there are few videos around here in you tube. That's the reason why I love all your work and love for the trains. If you wish to come South the border to see how far down did ALCOS and Baldwins are now we have two places at your full disposition to see what remains in our country.

  • @thecurtray
    @thecurtray6 жыл бұрын

    looks as if my internet friends are out running around again. fun channel. i am heading to redding California from kansas Tuesday 9-27-18 hauling a Studebaker to a fella out there. it takes me forever to get out of Colorado as i always pick one place to see. cannot wait to see the redwoods out there in ca. when may i start on that railroad for you. it is what i do.-- curtis--i believed the bad back story,but the ice and snow seems more prevalent. what if you had a bad back and it was snowing. ha

  • @jabru41
    @jabru416 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @jackkreighbaum783
    @jackkreighbaum7837 жыл бұрын

    I guess there are several vintage videos available of the Uintah Railway. Great show, thanks.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    fun little railroad!!!!

  • @alynnsnow
    @alynnsnow6 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. We visited Dragon today with a 4 wheeler group.

  • @WEUSANDCORR
    @WEUSANDCORR7 жыл бұрын

    It seems that old adage never say never applies here, those grades and curves. Wow. Cheers Les

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Amazing what they did.

  • @gonebamboo4116
    @gonebamboo41164 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @ALCOPRO
    @ALCOPRO7 жыл бұрын

    The Uintah Railway Reminds Me Of The Wolgan Valley Railway here in Australia. Oh yes GDAY you pair of screwy characters from Down Under :D Love the Vids.

  • @robertfarquhar1265

    @robertfarquhar1265

    7 жыл бұрын

    g ay,i have just bought the new book SHALE AND SHAYS BY MARK LANGDON,an unreal book on the wolgan valley line in NSW AUSTRALIA,its available from the light rail research society for au$70 plus p and p.for shay fans working in unreal country which was rugged sandstone country.if you love shays worth a look plus you will see HOW THEY DID IT IN OZ way back then...Bob Farquhar

  • @ALCOPRO

    @ALCOPRO

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Robert already have it and have walked along the line a few times.

  • @Eisenbahn313
    @Eisenbahn3132 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Austria! 👍 Peter

  • @crystalrock18
    @crystalrock187 жыл бұрын

    Over 11k subscribers way to go!!!!!!!! That is one really really neat railroad too. It's a shame there aren't any locos from that rail road that have been preserved. Over all another great video. Also Dale I am sorry I haven't sent the FRISCO 1522 pictures to you yet. My wife and I just bought a house and we are finally settled in. Tomorrow when I get off work I will email them to you via FB messenger.

  • @karynfelix-the-Cat

    @karynfelix-the-Cat

    7 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the new home! No worries... Dale and I both know what it's like to relocate.. Two years ago... We combined our two previous lives, which for us, was the accumulation of 40+ years of living and collecting.. Then dealing with the remains of mine, and his mom's estate...and all of their belongings... One day at a time.. Right? Thanks for your viewership and wonderful comments!! :D

  • @crystalrock18

    @crystalrock18

    7 жыл бұрын

    Karyn Felix-Angell oh my that's sounds like quite the big undertaking!!! We are almost settled in just a got a few more boxes to un pack then I get to move my HO scale lay out to the base Kent which I am super excited about. I plan on modeling it to be as close as I can get to look like the MKT railroad out here in Missouri. The town that I live in was a stop along that rail road line at one time and I want to model it to look like the down town area in the world war 1 time frame. Any I will send you a FB friend request so we can talk more train because I LOVE TRAIN Karyn!!!!!

  • @bluejacketwarrior2457
    @bluejacketwarrior2457 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact. The air lines were placed above the knuckles as opposed to the normal position because the tight turns of the railway would cause the lines to break if placed below the coupplers.

  • @DanielMccoydinotrainman
    @DanielMccoydinotrainman7 жыл бұрын

    Coo! :)

  • @royreynolds108
    @royreynolds1087 жыл бұрын

    The curves up Baxter Pass are 66 degree or 91.8 foot radius which would give 183.6 foot diameter. A 80 degree curve is 77.79 foot radius. A curve is measured in degrees. There are actually two definitions for degree of curve: 1. railroad- the arc of a given radius with the central angle between two radii subtended by a 100-foot chord or sin 1/2 D = 50/R; 2. highway-the arc of a given radius with the central angle between two radii or D/100 = 360/2 pi(R). A curve of D = 3 staked on the ground will yield essentially the same curve by either definition. There is an excellent book out about the Uintah and there are photos and plans of the equipment. The passenger cars were separated by flat cars because of roof clearance problems negotiating those curves. Rod locos were used north of the pass but had to be dismantled and loaded on flat cars to go over the pass because of the curves and then reassembled for use. As pointed out in the comments #50 and #51 were sold to the Sumpter Valley which took the side tanks off and added a tender to each. Rail was added to the walkways to replace the weight of the tanks to get back the tractive effort the tanks gave. At least one or possibly both locos were brought back from Guatemala but are still disassembled. When delivered by Baldwin, the #50 was set up to run at Mack and the first trip the water in the sight glass went out of the bottom of the glass when the loco went over the crest of the pass because Baldwin didn't build the crown sheet in the firebox for the 7.5 % grade and the fireman promptly left. Baldwin made the required changes to the firebox and crown sheet at Atchee. You and others call the #50 & 51 Mallets but they are true simple articulateds instead of compounds which a Mallet is. The Big Boys and Challengers are simple also. Remember a compound uses the steam twice but an articulated uses steam only once in each engine set. All of the cylinders for #50 & #51 are the same size, same bores by same stroke. The brake lines were above the couplers because of ease of getting to the gladhands and clearance problems below. Tie plates usually are not cast but rolled then sheared into the correct width with the spike holes punched. I hope this info helps.

  • @4501driver
    @4501driver7 жыл бұрын

    as somebody who lives in grand junction. I'm sorry you didn't get a good time at cross orchards. I'm s member of the model railroad club at cross orchards and we try to be very friendly. and I'm quoting this from a uintah book I have but a lot of those water cars were used for people. since those towns were in the middle of nowhere people needed water somehow lol. I've been waiting for you to come to grand junction for a while lol. I hope you can see our model railroad club sometime I think you would enjoy it.

  • @jeanneuzarhudson8207
    @jeanneuzarhudson82077 жыл бұрын

    Right now I am re-training my tongue to pronounce the name of the railroad. LGB and now Bachmann have reproduced that Mallet locomotive and I always mis-pronounced the name of Uintah. Well, of course you both are locals and it just flows off your collective tongues. With my bad eyes I never noticed the, "i" in the name. Thanks for that lessen. I am going back to finish your most excellent video and perhaps watch it again on the "big screen", downstairs. In tribute the tracks are loaded with the Shay, the Climax and the Heisler just flowing down the rails like little Swiss Watches. You know, that famous auction sight is not giving away them Mallet's, anymore. Now, more the ever I want one. Carry on and I am switching back to finish this Toy Man Adventure. Greg and Jeanne

  • @randallhawkinson4727
    @randallhawkinson47277 жыл бұрын

    My UR No. 50 (in HO, standard gauge) is sitting on the engine track at Foggy Mountain, Co adjacent to the North Park Lumber & Mining's "Moly" Facility No. 2, awaiting repainting and lettering for the NPL&M (a subsid. of the PC). This area is awaiting my experiment in foam board scenery bases for the mine structures I built while I was recovering from my fall in "11. Other mine structures for this area were salvaged form Layout No. 3 (back in my high school and jr. college years.) Old no. 50 was required for the ridiculously tight curves up on that portion of Layout No 5 downstairs, a Christmas gift from Diane in 2012. Thanks for showing the old Uintah and your model. It was one of my favorite inspirations for my own layout back in high school. 7.5% grade? No. I left that out. But the helix up to the lumber and mine line is at least a 3.5, maybe a 4.0! (I flunked Trig., which is why I never got my architecture license.)

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to detailing this 50.

  • @randallhawkinson4727

    @randallhawkinson4727

    7 жыл бұрын

    Looks pretty good as is. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Go ahead. Inspire me!

  • @littlejohhny42
    @littlejohhny426 жыл бұрын

    Great video of your trip. My first view of the Garage Mahal. So what's in the great Gerstner's tool chest? Don't see many of them these days.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    I went nuts for them keep many of our tools in them. The small one holds all the small tools. Knives screwdrivers nippers, files and so on.

  • @TonyLasagna
    @TonyLasagna3 жыл бұрын

    Had to re-watch this one. Never got the LGB mallet - but did get the C+S mogul. This inspired me to take it out and run it! Also broke out the White Pass and Yukon diesel, and the Santa Fe Queen Mary Series BlueBonnet diesel :D

  • @patrickoguinn4553
    @patrickoguinn45537 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed your program on the Uintah RR. Always wondered how you pronounced it. You two are doing something I would love to do but I never seem to have the time. How about the Benton and Bodie RR near Bishop California, that would be interesting also or the Carson and Colorado RR in the same area. Thanks.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Used to live a tahoe and was past there a lot. That would be fun!

  • @zapityzapzap
    @zapityzapzap7 жыл бұрын

    Y'all should go chase the beds that served Westcliffe, CO. Both the Grape Creek narrow gauge line and the Texas Creek line. You can still pick out the Texas Creek bed following highway 69 north to the Arkansas river. Another fun one would be Alpine tunnel.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Love the part of the world too.

  • @robertfarquhar1265
    @robertfarquhar12657 жыл бұрын

    hi all from OZ.i to have driven the Uintah grade a few years ago,there is quite a few UINTAH fans in australia.Amongst a few of who us who operate minia ture live steam locos to prove you had been there you had to bring bacak a piece of GILSONITE which the customs people always had a long look at. one friend scrounged up a small bag of the stuff boxed it and mailed it back to australia where it now rides around as alod in a small 4 wheel railway wagon on a 5 inch gauge railway(SEE TREVOR HEATHS LIVE STEAM PAGES AND GO TO THE NARAMYNDED RAILWAY AT REPTON WHERE YOU WILL SE A TRAIN OF SMALL WAGONS CROSSING A TIMBER BRIDGE) Bob Farquhar

  • @fathan16
    @fathan164 жыл бұрын

    Been to Baxter pass working on the radio towers there. Beautiful area, being from the uinta basin and actually living in bonanza in the 90s, this was a fun travel back in time for me.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s still off the beaten path. Beautiful place!

  • @nathancorcoran5347
    @nathancorcoran53475 ай бұрын

    Uintah Railway #50 and #51 could’ve been in operation to this day at the Sumpter Valley Railroad (As a heritage railroad) rather than being scrapped.

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek65823 жыл бұрын

    I rode on Cass in WV when I was a kid, that was pretty steep as well.

  • @jeannah3716
    @jeannah37165 жыл бұрын

    I really love this video and think you two did a great job showing everyone the history and function of this line. I love watching you two have fun together. I actually worked on archaeological excavations along this rail line and have been along much of the old line to Dragon and up Baxter Pass. One thing -- PLEASE STOP LOOTING. I know it's fun to find artifacts, but if you take them, then the next people who come along won't be able to enjoy what you did. You're also breaking the law. Feel free to find them, handle them, and take photos, but when you're done please leave them at the site.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have such mixed feelings about picking up stuff. First time I went to the Nevada northern there were amazing things all over the place. Brake wheels and such. Left everything in place. The next year it was all mostly gone. People had taken “the good stuff”. The next year it was all gone. Mine cleanup. Land reclamation. Grades and everything plowed under. Glad I have video and photos because that’s all that’s left. Same thing happens so often. The salt lake and fort Douglas. Never found one thing. My dad did pick up a Coke bottle in 1948 ish. While building a road. But today the only grade left is about 100 feet and that’s been restored and new track laid and a placard saying what it is. At the old shop on the unita there were a few things in the 90s but all that’s there now is the building. And so on. It’s like stopping time. Can’t be done. Mostly I like shooting video and photos because soon that’s all there is. So I have mixed feelings about it. I keep remembering all the amazing things on the Nevada northern. Now a memory.

  • @emj1989
    @emj19897 жыл бұрын

    they hung the air hoses high to keep them out of the snow and ice and keep ice out of the brake lines

  • @patrickoguinn4553

    @patrickoguinn4553

    7 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Cool!! Or down right cold! Wondered..

  • @trainzguy2472

    @trainzguy2472

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe so you didn't have to bend over as far because you would have to bend over a lot more on those TINY cars than you would with a standard gauge train.

  • @pearlyhumbucker9065

    @pearlyhumbucker9065

    7 жыл бұрын

    These air hoses resemble the air hoses you can find an every railroad vehicle with vacuum brakes. Did not find any evidence that the Uintah used vacuum brakes but the air hoses are kind of typical - you find them on every second narrow gauge railroad in Europe including the existing modern ones llike the "Rätische Bahn" in Switzerland. The air hoses need to be set high not only to keep them out of snow and ice, they are prone to get filled with condensing water when they are mounted at the height of the couplers that indeed would - in case of cold weather - freeze and therefore render the brakes in the cars after this air hoses useless.

  • @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan

    @TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I thought I had to be because the couplers were so low there was so low clearance the air hoses could be dragged along the track

  • @PowerTrain611
    @PowerTrain6117 жыл бұрын

    In Salida, Co, there is a spot along the Arkansas River where there is an old bobber caboose and the remains of the old yard for the Denver and Rio Grande. Quite a lot of nice history in that town, including a gaurd rail next to that caboose made of old rail as well. Cute little town, not far from where the tracks of Monarch Pass used to be, now a driveable path. Salida was a major interchange point for narrow gauge and standard gauge trains. And wouldnt you know it, the town of Salida was built by the railroad! You should check it out! I was born out there, its beautiful. Love your videos, man. Cheers!

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    7 жыл бұрын

    Packing a bag...

  • @pablocruize3975

    @pablocruize3975

    6 жыл бұрын

    On your way you should stop in Gunnison ( the other side of Monarch Pass) and check out their locomotive at the Pioneer Museum there (east side of town) Don't know what type it is.

  • @kennethjeys2608
    @kennethjeys26086 жыл бұрын

    the film is fantastic footage of the trains!! On some of the footage the photographer balanced himself on one of the flatcars loaded with Gilsonite and took the film .. it is fantastic !! The Rainbow branch didn't even have passenger service to it. You should get a copy and see it. You can get it on eBay or any store that carries trains or hobbies.

  • @mopac8233
    @mopac82334 жыл бұрын

    They should’ve contracted the job of building out to Otto Mears, the dude was an absolute mad lad when it came to putting railroads where they probably shouldn’t go

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mopac 82 have you seen our show on the million dollar highway?

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKx72M6lnNqwn5M.html

  • @pawloalbanskyj2487
    @pawloalbanskyj24876 жыл бұрын

    I recall reading an article years ago in a railroad magazine that mentioned the Uintah railway bought a large articulated locomotive that was so big it could not negotiated the curves up in the mountain. So they took it apart and shipped the locomotive in parts over the mountain to the other side where it was reassembled and worked there for the rest of its days. Can anyone clairify which locomotive it was. Thanks

  • @2666loco
    @2666loco2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting info. It is hard to find much on the Uintah. The 2-6-6-2's were NOT mallets but simple articulateds with front and rear cylinders = same size. Amazing that they would outpull 2 Shays on 7% grades and more efficient. I'd like to see that. There is a drone video of the Rainbow area on You Tube. I assume the roads were Uintah right of way. Rainbow on the map of the Uintah is at the upper northwest part of the RR. I'd like to see more about it. Guess nobody made video of it; I can't find it if they did.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Yes not a true mallet. But often called that. Just one of those things where people often hang labels on things that are twisted a bit.

  • @Captionmarvelous
    @Captionmarvelous7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I spelled the name of the town wrong. It should be spelled Skagway, not Skyway!

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent45922 жыл бұрын

    @ Toy man Another cool history lesson. Have you ever done the old Moffat road ? The Book Climbing the Ladder covers it. It was his railroad over the continental divide before he built his famous tunnel which bypassed the whole thing? Pretty impressive scenery. When the book was written there were still water towers and all sorts of stuff left behind it was amazing what they left abandoned. I'm sure by now the little stuff has all been scavenged but maybe some of the big stuff survives just like some of the old RGS and DRGW has almost 70 yrs later.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope. Didn’t even know. Thanks. Love that area.

  • @astridvallati4762
    @astridvallati47623 жыл бұрын

    The LGB articulateds are a favourite for Sushi-Train restaurants. Watching the running gear going, dragging a 20 flat-car load of Sushi ( on porcelain plates is a real joy.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m having a hard time picturing a Gilsonite locomotive pull in sushi. Just can’t quite connect pure carbon with raw fish. Well if I can get past the metal image the idea of a locomotive serving sushi as a grand idea

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo36632 ай бұрын

    Oh hey, I recognize that picture from 1:33! The 2-8-0 on the left would be from the Maine Central.

  • @Coolahan3
    @Coolahan36 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video! There is a lot of talk about building a railroad back into the Uintah Basin... except this time it’d be standard gauge with a grade limited to 2%. It’d be built from Craig, Co. Apparently all the track survey work is done, now just hoping it gets built.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rare to see any new railroads built. Be amazing if they do!!

  • @johnbeck3270

    @johnbeck3270

    2 жыл бұрын

    There has been talk about building the line on into Vernal, the grade would probably be the old Moffat. When they were mining a lot of coal between Craig and Meeker, the then UP laid the rails grades done by the Moffat. A lot of coal in the region. Also a lot of petroleum especially around Vernal to Roosevelt Ut.

  • @vettebecker1
    @vettebecker1 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome history of this line, sad that it's been lost like so many lines. Very cool to see this. How's Adams Large scale railroad coming along??

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    Жыл бұрын

    Great. He started more or less over. But track is about 1/3 in? But he built a huge waterfall. Anyway looking great. Hasn’t opened it up yet. Just stopped snowing a day ago.

  • @vettebecker1

    @vettebecker1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ToyManTelevision very nice, can’t wait to see it sometime. Last I saw, he pulled up the G gauge and was starting to lay the 7.5 track

  • @ThePaulv12
    @ThePaulv123 жыл бұрын

    Ffar out! 3:31 & 5:02 looks like a climb from the Tour De France. You really can see how steep it was but the actual ruling grade must've been in the order of 10-12%+ factored for the load of the curvature and the combined elevation gain on the train. (I know you know why I'm here btw LOL) Also, I was just reading up in this fascinating railroad as well as the uses for gilsonite and could imagine it might make a good blackening agent for model railroaders since blackening is one of its uses.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a matter fact all of the first generation model T Ford’s were painted with Gilsonite paint. Any color you want provided it’s black! Actually in 1909 model tease were available in any color. But then Henry Ford went to black only to save money. Actually come to think of it they went back to colors in 1926 and 27 for the last two years of the model T

  • @newwomyn
    @newwomyn4 жыл бұрын

    You are delightful couple. If you were on the Zephyr in Colorado Rockies, you would be on the Moffat Tunnel, Glenwood Springs, and Green River subs on the Union Pacific. I study railroads as a hobby, but I have a professional and financial connections to every Class One in the country. Keep up the good work, have fun, and see you on the High Iron. Peace for now.

  • @ToyManTelevision

    @ToyManTelevision

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup. We take the zephyr to junction a lot. But the great trip is to Glenwood and stay at the old hotel and swim at the hot springs. Or west to the bay!

  • @newwomyn

    @newwomyn

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you are going west, you will be on the Shafter, Nevada, Roseville, and the Martinez subs. That Roseville Sub between Reno and the Roseville Yard is nice and picturesque as it runs over Donner around Truckee. Besides, that is some pretty High Iron. I live near the BNSF and Union Pacific Cherokee subs, the BNSF Afton sub, the Union Pacific Wagoner Sub, and the KCS Heavener Sub. You did mention the Big Boy, the Union Pacific 4014 with the articulated suspension. I saw that on the Union Pacific Wagoner sub in Claremore Oklahoma as it was making its way from Van Buren Arkansas. It had stopped at the Florence Avenue grade crossing. The FRA ID on the crossing is 428370P. It is at Mile Post 609.430. Claremore is also on Historic Route 66. The BNSF Cherokee Sub runs roughly parallel to the Route from Springfield Missouri to Tulsa Oklahoma.