If Winter doesn’t say “I will probably do it anyway” in one of his videos, I’m gonna lose my mind.

@fireborn..

9 ай бұрын

I miss the "just" he used to put in when he'd say make your day a little better. 😅

@artemisspawnofzeus7732

9 ай бұрын

​​@fireborn.. its unjust is what it is

@wischmopps293

9 ай бұрын

Really didn't like him at the beginning and now he is my favorite even before harstem. Even his annoying USA hailing I can accept ❤

@proactivex

9 ай бұрын

@@wischmopps293 damn! thats a professional hater lol.

@nmgaro2156

9 ай бұрын

If Winter doesnt say "i will probably do it anyway"....is it really Winterm

respect for the 28:40 "just checking" EMP on the Lurkers

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

Works vs cloak, but not vs burrow.

Dark just twirls his Eldritch Mustache. It's incorporeal, but springs out from it's hell-scape in times of Machiavellian need, like a demonic-Familiar.

23:17 That worked out well for the prescient casting :D

That second game would make a ww1 general give you a stern lecture about attrition.

Oliveira aka The Avalanche, once the momentum starts he cannot be stopped.

@wol_ves

9 ай бұрын

Love this nickname, definitely agree! He doesn't always have the chance to get going, but once he does it seems impossible to stop him.

Dark leading the series with the fun BM killed me 😂

@midweekcentaur1050

9 ай бұрын

It was so smooth brained I love it.

@Nat-ri3ip

9 ай бұрын

And Winter going "I don't know what else I'm gonna be able to clickbait" while we know he'll have even better material down the line is aùazing.

I am always rooting for Dark; even when he BMs; But, god, what I wouldn't give to have the alternate universe where Oliveira, just as he's winning, types "Zerg good" into chat

@DeaThfighter44

8 ай бұрын

im always rooting for whoever isn't playing zerg cause fuck zerg (I've been a salty protoss main since WoL)

46:20 poor SCV 😢

@transitcombine9057

9 ай бұрын

I was a fan of message 🗿

Had me chuckling right at the start with "uncomfortable amount of pleasure". Thats why i keep liking the videos! Great commentary.

I genuinely forgot that Olivera is a world champion, much like Cure being a GSL champion

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

It was a crazy day, he beat heromarine, reynor, and hero, to advance to the finals where he 4-1'd maru - huge upset

@user-ym9dz5uy2v

9 ай бұрын

maru trying the same strategy 4 times in a row was embarrassing lol not taking anything away from Olivera of course, he's an underdog hero! Even after winning X__X @@chloesmith4065

8:35 Marauder glitches onto a pillar.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

yes this map has a few spots this can happen, pretty buggy. community made map from the team liquid map contest - the mapmaker fixed it, but blizz won't update the map pool again :^)

Holy Moly, that grindfest in the first game was insane

Olivera still has a lot of flaws, but damn his tank marine pushes are so beautiful to watch. Terran the way it was intended

@cosmonauthal7651

9 ай бұрын

Truly is great to see a Terran with a lot of flaws anihilate the second best Zerg in the world! Truly makes me excited to see where the future is heading!

@chaoton

9 ай бұрын

His tank positioning in the series he became a champion is still one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen on Winter’s channel.

@RogerTheWall

9 ай бұрын

@@cosmonauthal7651 Sure, like the perfect dark, who quite always mess up his build order, and remains supply blocked XD

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

​@@cosmonauthal7651not to take away from your seething sarcastic comments complaining about terran imbalance, but do you really think dark deserved to win game 2 and 3? I'd argue he got outplayed in game 1 and saved by imba lurker range upgrade. Game 3 especially, he chose a dumb build, messed it up anyway, got supply blocked and had to make 5 overlords, lost to a timing. Game 2 he was unprepared for the terran move out and all his stuff was late. Baneling speed late, Hive was late, vipers were late, ultras were late, everything late. Lose to a well executed attack he didn't scout, then lose because of eco disadvantage from getting outplayed.

@cosmonauthal7651

9 ай бұрын

@@chloesmith4065 Orginal comment said Oliveria has a lot of flaws here. I was piggy backing off that lol write the essays to the original commenter not me lol.

oliveria is an animal. something very uniquely good about how he plays. feels kinda like cure with better micro?

I don't play SC2 but I absolutely adore watching/listening to you cast Winter. Keep it up! One Love.

@8:37 Marauder jumping on to the high ground pillar 😆

2 months old, and Ember and I are still watching you at night Winter.

Shoutout Husky!! Made me fall in love with this game back in the day

I do love Oliveira's terrain. Dark I love when the crazy stuff goes down.

Oliveira is THE most enjoyable Terran to watch. Love his playstyle!

@Kaboomnz

9 ай бұрын

His macro looked top notch

@transitcombine9057

9 ай бұрын

@@Kaboomnz creo que lo que lo hace muy bueno es como reparte sus unidades y lo maravillosamente cómo ponen los tankes en mi opinión

@Kaboomnz

9 ай бұрын

@@transitcombine9057 Yes his positioning was good also.

@proactivex

9 ай бұрын

cure-ish with better micro.

It's been so long since he was here Winter didn't even mention Zest when talking about 4 letter names Sadge.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

I still play Zest's 2gate blink in PvT, great player

“We don’t count robots as people” lmao

Hellbats are basically SCVs with shields for claws and a flame thrower for spotlight

I love watching Oliveira really flexing his macro and tank pushes in games 2 and 3. The way he sets tanks up for both offence and defence is incredible, and I don't see the other terrans do it nearly as well.

Not 4 letters but it was 4 syllables. It's the prophecy of the 4th race trying to manifest it's self.

do like Oliveira's flexible style. Banshees in game 2 since he knows it's just roach ravager on the map, giving him free scout and damage. Game 3 building a good amount of hellions/bat with marines since they'll be more effective against lings and serve as a better soak, while the marines can be the generalist that they are. After watching a few TvZ, it seems like tanks are probably not that great against zerg, given their slow build, high cost, friend fire and low mobility. Shifting the costs around to get marauders + widow mines to cover a flank is a much better decision.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

tanks are actually amazing if they're in position and set up - their immobility is their only weakness. they're fantastic on defense or when slow-pushing; Marine/Medivac/Marauder certainly has more map control and mobility than tank compositions, and that's one of the strengths of that flexible army type - being able to attack in multiple positions at the same time easily or fly into areas where the other player doesn't have an army. However, tanks really are king of the ground, so vs roaches or banelings they're really helpful. Marine/Medivac/Tank comps do get used, especially before ghosts/liberators hit the field.

@GameFuMaster

9 ай бұрын

@@chloesmith4065 there really aren't enough places where tanks can just shoot with impunity, even against lings. There aren't like massive forward cliffs where lings have to run to the back to then run up to reach them. And even when positioned behind stuff, ravagers can 3 shot them with spells anyway, greatly limiting the amount of damage they can dish out. Slow pushing requires enough tanks to leap frog properly, which you generally won't get the time to actually do, since you either have too few tanks covering the moving ones, or you have too many doing the covering, which makes it an incredibly slow push.

@transitcombine9057

9 ай бұрын

@@GameFuMaster and then olive comes in with those tank positions and knowing when and not to move from one place to another

@rickzor2700

9 ай бұрын

@@chloesmith4065 A well written story that anybody above gold knows? Sorry for the roast but it's true lol

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

​@@rickzor2700it's not a roast, we're in agreement here. however, the guy I was replying to was saying tanks are bad in TvZ, in a comment on a video where tanks very significantly contributed to the wins in this best of 3, so it seemed like some clarification was in order. you and I might know it's extremely valuable unit if positioned correctly and protected, but some other people might just think "they get 3shot by ravagers, why build them at all?"

Olivera clearly wasn't particularly fond of Darks jabs at the start and really stepped it up to shut him down.

first game was one of the best ever. dark is lord of chaos

Why does winter call the speed / slow zones "dubulas and bubulas"?!? Is there a reason for this?

15:23 are you looking for spout?

@4:48 Nice

Really cool how Oliveira baited the roaches by lowering his supply depots, in the first attack of the first game.

Love darks banter 🎉

Olivera threw game 1 so hard its unreal, all he had to do was lift his buildings so he just doesn't lose them. Just the ad ons. Then just don't lose your CC's for free..... literally if you have to. Just go home for a second land 1 command center, build 1 bunker fill it near the mineral line. and then move out and keep the pressure.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

yeah he could've had like 5 orbitals alive instead of 1

prima strategy guides, i remember the fallout ones

Hyped! Thanks winter

Don't giggle!

gg first game was awesome I usually fail at this phase of game

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

it takes a lot of experience to have command over scrappy late-game situations

I believe "gout" is proper, yes

Maybe I'm misunderstanding as I haven't played SC2 in a while, but in game one, why not pull back as Olivera and defend an orbital, using a MULE to restart your economy until you can get more scans? Is it the threat of production from Dark?

Did that maurader briefly glitch on top of the pillar at 8:38-39

@kainakrit9311

9 ай бұрын

probably forgot he wasn't a reaper

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

It doesn't actually give vision on top of the pillar, it's just a visual bug; the mapmaker actually fixed this but I doubt blizzard will update the map pool with the fixed version of the map, as there's only like 1 guy working on sc2

Thank You om nom nom

Wish we could get some TvT

@winterstarcraft Just a random thought, but what if to finally balance marines they did the following: Create sub-tiers of marines (e.g.) 1. Ground targeting marines 2. Air targeting marines 3. Ground and air targeting (but at a damage reduction cost, maybe like 10-20%). Or after several upgrades. This would remove the general OP “universal” answer for terrans, while adding an opportunity for mind-game from the opposing races as to whether they are massing ground, air, or both. All while punishing massing marines. I feel like it’s pretty safe to say, when in doubt, build marines.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

late-game upgrade unlocks the ability to aim above you lol give the same thing to the immortal and adept or since terrans have so many units that transform and stuff, give marines a transform between air and ground modes ;) most rifles do have different sights for shooting planes, so, it could make sense that they have to change something on the gun for a couple seconds to be able to aim at air units

@spencerkoenig7267

8 ай бұрын

There was something similar in Dawn of War, where you can equip your basic infantry with either anti-infantry, anti-armor, anti-something, but you could only choose one. In starcraft I would assume it would act like a 'morph' in the same way zerglings morph into banelines

Love ya Winter

GHETTO VIKING!! LOL I'm ded

Yo winter you need a live stream when lowko gets done with his.

There are people who just watch anime and add such thrilling commentary as, OH! ... WOW! and Uh-Huh ... they need watch one of your streams to see how it's really done. I solute you sir

Sometimes, I wonder if "Jimmy" is just Winter's pet name for Silver.

@proactivex

9 ай бұрын

gotta be for jim reynor right?

@MoltenCorr

9 ай бұрын

@proactivex I mean, hey, if that's how they wanna roleplay in their relationship, I guess it's none of my business.

Nice.

4 letter names winter.... thinking a certain finnisher is malding rn

Here for the Jimmy Giggle

Good game

nice

Love the new patch, I don't play sc2 but I love watching it, mass banelings every game was really boring to watch, games are so much more fun to watch now

@Oban2006

9 ай бұрын

Same

@RussellSyx

9 ай бұрын

True

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

It is cool to see other unit comps used more

@cosmonauthal7651

9 ай бұрын

True watching Terran use Marines now as opposed to Marines before is SO MUCH more fun.

@tobiasL1991

9 ай бұрын

@@cosmonauthal7651 My god you are pathetic, what's next gonna complain a zerg is using zerglings...

Totes Magotes.

❤

1069, nice

+ a like for 42 game 1 felt like a big throw at the end, couldve lifted much sooner, built one raven over the course of 30 minutes, moved the liberators to the mineral line, preserver one tank, etc... lurkers feel super broken with 10 range and nearly instant burrow, but all the counters were there. also funny how you can EMP cloaked units to see them but not burrowed. Not saying EMP should do anything more than it already does but it's just kind of an odd interaction. I suppose thematic because a cloaking field requires power. dark really did outplay at the end, but I feel like oli started playing bad after the fungal and lurker blasting almost all his ghosts somewhere between 23:18-23:25 ... Lots of questionable unit control but this one just felt like a critical mistake. Could still win after that if he switched to "base trade mode" sooner I think... and not lose 3+ orbitals to just lings and maybe 3 hydras. just pull some/most of the army back and clear the threat, you can win with mules I think... Gg though for sure, what a game 1.

@transitcombine9057

9 ай бұрын

Tuvo muchos errores debido a que no aprovecho las utilidades de las demás cosas. Aunque no niego que sus ataques y defensas son hermosas de ver 🚬🗿

did you just call yourself a pervert pillar? @45:38

1,1-69 I can see why Jimmy was giggling.

LOL! G....

Life

first game oliviera super sloppy, no snipes on broodlords, no mule to rebuild economy at the end.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

yeah big throw, lots of sloppy play, I'd say poor play at times honestly

time not underdog no more, ya need to stop sleeping on him

Everyone knows Zergs are too OP and therefore its bloody arse imba

China's Best Terran vs Korea's Best Zerg

1169 nicee

lol

1169 likes 😂😂😂

Do pro gamers really have custom stats for their units?

is jimmy real? or is he trolling us?

@Ulti_H

9 ай бұрын

its his cat

коментатор сидит на толчке??? выдавливает из себя))

Oliveira damnnn wining over Dark??

@TheNerdForAllSeasons

9 ай бұрын

... the world champion. Yes.

@KingOfNebbishes

9 ай бұрын

Terran mass marine winning over Zerg? It's more likely than you think.

@chloesmith4065

9 ай бұрын

Oliveira is better than people think. And terran is imba of course.

If Jimmy keeps asking for ____ likes, I'll watch the next video. I'll probably do it anyway

I might make 1168 accounts to assist with the likes, anyways. Prolly wont, anyways, but I will click.

"Jimmy... if this comment gets 1169 likes on this video, then I'll like and subscribe. Of course, I will probably do it anyways."

Thanks for making almost all of my days.. a little bit better ❤

This time…. I liked before the video even started 🫡

❤