Pretty amazing seeiing that little boy on the drums, and realising he was the most extreme rock and roller of all time - at least in terms of his lifestyle.

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

He got up to aw sorts of nonsense over the years.

What Keith is doing is similar to what Nirvana did on Top Of The Pops when they were asked to perform Smells LikeTeen Spirit over pre recorded tracks :)

By the way.......Keith Moon at this recording session was stoned! If you know more about Keith, you'll understand that. Pete Townshend (lead guitar) and John Entwistle (bass). This was a very early song of The Who, but straight away you can hear that indescribable talent shining through.

The Pistols footage is also interesting because of the achieve nature of the early gigs included with original punks before the spikey hair mob took over. Also,for spotting Siouxsie Sioux & Viv Westwood in the crowd, well, Westwood (dancing) at the side of the stage. Also,superfan and Sex Shop assistant (the late) Jordan.

@punkoid76

3 ай бұрын

Also Sid Vicious is only in the crowd at this point, Matlock on bass made a big difference to their live sound.

Even the Pistols would concede that The Who’s original was best. Funnily enough I first heard this song exactly 40 years ago, i.e. in the spring of 1983. My brother had compiled a ‘Mod’ cassette and this was on it.

The Who wins, no comparison for me. I do love the Pistols on their original songs though.

@richardarnold5279

Жыл бұрын

I think i feel the same way. i like them pretty equally, but there's something special about the original in general. The Who already sort of were a punk band anyway (in the early days).

I always liked the genuine passion / anger in The Sex Pistols version & Punky vibe of the 🎸 of Steve Jones. The Who 🇬🇧 original a bit to polished but certainly laudable.

The Who by a country mile.

@heathcornbeef

Жыл бұрын

How far is that? A country mile? I'll bet its not light years ahead like THE CLASH

You can really hear how great a bass player Glen Matlock actually was in that Pistols version.

@punkoid76

3 ай бұрын

He actually plays a more complex bass line than Entwhistle in the chorus.

A lot of people in the music industry sort of thought of early Who, at least to some degree, as punk before punk. In the mid sixties their sound was very unique and much simpler than most of their later stuff. I love them throughout their career.

Jonesy (guitar) and Paul Cook (drummer) of The Pistols were huge Who fans! :0)

For me, the clear winner is The Who and not just by a little bit! 😋 Don't get me wrong, I do like the Sex Pistols original material, like "Nevermind the Bollocks" is a great album track after track.. but in my humble opinion Substitute doesn't work for them and you know, The Who were one of the greatest bands ever to grace the Earth.. they're just in a different league! There's no one quite like The Who. My two all time favourites are The Who and Led Zeppelin. Loved them both ever since I was a young teenager twenty years ago. I did listen to the Sex Pistols growing up too, I remember a kid in school called Kevin gave me the "Never mind the Bollocks" CD, however when it comes to punk my favourite band is the very much underrated Stiff Little Fingers. 😊

both great tracks with captured that moment in time !

The Who was singing to a track and Keith was making that clear by taping the drums. The Sex Pistols were performing live.

@kadiummusic

Жыл бұрын

Performing is an interesting term for it. 🤔

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

The Pistols footage is them playing live of course, but the audio is the demo version (it was never recorded properly for release) that appeared on the 'Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle' soundtrack. Now,it was played "live" in the studio at the time with no overdubs,but subsequently for the 'Swindle' project, Jones & Cook overdubbed guitar & drums (probably bass too) on to the original demo track.

Great choice of comparison - and great reaction!

Interesting fact, The Who song “Who Are You” is actually about a drunken encounter between Townsend and Jones and Cook of the Pistols in a nightclub.

Fun Fakt: not long after "substitute" was recorded the Who booted Daltrey out of the band! When the 45 was released it peaked at #4 and the record company FORCED the Who to quickly rehire Daltrey!

@timholder6825

Жыл бұрын

Not true. They kicked him out of the band because he kept hitting people....mostly Pete. The record company offered to set him up as a solo artiste with a back up band. Roger said he knew then if he was going to "make it" it was going to be with The Who....they were his best chance.....the best line up. So he rejoined with the promise that from then on he'd be, "Peaceful Perce" and no more throwing his weight around. Although on one occasion thereafter he did knock Pete Townshend out when Townshend called him a, "dirty little cunt" and in a rage attacked and swung at Daltrey with his guitar. Read the biography, the fights between him and Townshend are as legendary as Moon's lunacy.

The Sex Pistols owned this. No one could harness and channel that rage into a focussed, spiteful, staccato song of defiance like John Lydon. The Who sound like they're happy to be doormats.

First time hearing the Sex Pistols version of this and I have to say it's pretty good! I don't think it's a matter of who did it better but it might be more appropriate to ask did the Pistols do it justice. Answer: absolutely YES.

In 1966 a 14 year old Gary Moore ( you should check out some of Gary's amazing catalogue) saw The Who in Belfast & he said just watching them he felt like he had been in a fight & that The Who were the first punk band? It's a pretty interesting point of view.

Try The Steve Miller Band vs L.A Guns - Rock'n Me. 😃 There's NO video to the L.A Guns one, but it's STILL on 'KZread' though!

The original was a typical 60's Rock'n'Roll song but what The Who didn't know was that it had a "dormant" Punk vibe, so much so that when I heard the Pistols' cover I thought it was an original, until I saw who the song writers were. 🙂

@curupirauirapuru3368

6 ай бұрын

ALL punks loves The Who. ❤❤❤❤❤

Definitely The Who for me but i will say that i appreciate the Pistols far more now as the decades have moved on.

Hola from New Mexico. Fun reaction.

I love the Who and the song "Substitute" in general. Though I really can't decide which version I like more. May still have to go with the original, but mannnn did the Pistols ever knock out an amazing version of it too. Sort of like them both equally in different ways, but I'll give it to the Who just slightly cause it's such a great song in general. The Pistols were a much needed kick in the ass though in 1976; even Pete Townshend agreed to that. He was a big fan of the Pistols. Worth pointing out too that each of these versions are 10 years apart. The Who's version is 1966 and the Pistols is '76; a lot changed about music over that period. Punk Rock was purposely playing off rock'n'roll early characteristics and hyperbolizing them as a reaction to the stale state of rock by that point in the mid 70s. So naturally it was more aggressive, louder, faster, etc. It was taking those early traits (started by bands like the Who) and just exaggerating them. Edit: okay.. to conclude: The Who wins slightly. I agree with both of you here. Sidenote: love this idea for a reaction channel too. Can't think of any other channel doing the comparison thing. Great concept.

Well this isn't really fair as the sex pistols version has been sped up - the original is in 'A' whereas the rock and roll swindle version is tweaked to 'Bb' - giving it a much more 'punchy - fast' sound. But that does not take away the fact that Glen Matlock actually provides a better bassline than Entwistle's original - Glens line is bouncy, edgy, reminiscent of "I saw her standing there" and basically adds an element of careless fun to the track. Yes I love them both, but the winner is the sex pistols.

pete townsend with chevron jacket

Of the two, I’d go with The Who. Also the Ramones covered it as well, with Pete on backing vocals. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqmft6-Nn9O1epc.html

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

I didn't realise the Ramones did it as well. I'm off to watch it noo.

These two remind me of the "Schweddy Balls" Saturday night live skits LOL.

It's a kinda amazing, that Pistol's performance has no scent of nostalgia that the song originally has.

The who everytime but l do love the punk guitars on the pistols version

You're not really the types to be into the Sex Pistols, but for a big surprise, you might want to check out "You need Hands", a VERY unexpected song on a Sex Pistol's album. It is an utter classic! :)

I agree with you. I'm a huge sex pistols fan. I never really liked the who and still don't, but who did it better, by miles and miles and miles.

Sex Pistols are fun but cannae beat the Who.

The Ramones also made a cover, a really good one

It blows my mind that Keith Moon had hardly ever used hi-hats on his drum kits! I had to do 1 single band practice without them as a drummer for the first band I'd joined in the late 80's (after the pedal on the stand had snapped and my Big Bro had taken it with him for that week in order to weld it), and man did I HATE not having any! 😂 Good job by the S*x Pistols, however, I've always been fond of The Who's original for some reason, so they are _my_ winners 😊 For another fun performance, maybe also check out 'A Quick One (While He's Away)' , the live version from _The Rolling Stones' Rock 'n Roll Circus_ movie! 😀👍

John Lydon is genuinely disturbed as was the rest of the band as real as it gets realy

99% of the time the original is the best & it definitely is on this occasion ❤ The Who, enjoying the content keep up the good work

@davehunt5847

10 ай бұрын

To me, ALMOST every time, it's the version I personally heard first that I prefer. Usually that means the original, but for instance I far prefer the Beatles Twist and Shout over the original (Shirelles?) but I liked the Zutons, so Amy Winehouse's Valerie just sounds weird to me although most people would have the same reaction I mentioned about the original Twist and Shout. Maybe just depends what you're most used to. There are exceptions, but not sure I can think of one off the top of my head

Onr of the first music videos

OOh ! We all forget stuff ! Pete Townsend ! Yay I remembered to say

I saw The Sex Pistols oct 1996 it was the first gig of that leg of the tour. Steve Jones and Glen Matlock ABSOLUTELY KILLED IT!!! STEVE JONES GUITAR WAS SO NASTIE WITH GLEN THUMPING THE CRAP OUT OF HIS BASS IT WAS WICKED. I have to admit that I'm not a fan of John Lyndon as a human being but he is a really good front man he was as OBNOXIOUS AND OBSCENE AS WE EXPECTED AND WANTED . BUT OFF STAGE HES A COMPLETE NARCISSIST AND NOT VERY NICE

The sex pistols deliberately changed lyrics and would louse other bands songs rebelling against everything but kind of paying homage. The who were the original punks smashing instruments especially Pete Townshends guitars. This is a classic one of the best bands I've ever seen .The Who are ageless

@rpoberhausen

Жыл бұрын

The Sex Pistols were just a God awful band. Lol. The Clash were the best British punk band and much closer to The Who in talent.

@Alfie-ft3bx

6 ай бұрын

@@rpoberhausenno

Check out the Pete Townshend episode of Jonesy's Jukebox here on youtube where they talk about Pete showing Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols the proper way to play "Substitute."

MY WAY! SID VS FRANK!!

I love both, The Who and Sex Pistols ❤❤❤❤❤❤

The Crack- Don't Just Sit There, The Punk Generation, 4 Compact Disc Pack, Listen😊

THE WHO R GODS! NUFF SAID

No wonder The Sex Pistols covered the song, as it only has 7 chords

Look at the Who's drummer technique! Case closed!😅

He sounds like he's playing the drums fine.

@hanierfamily

Жыл бұрын

Not in the video. They were clearly asked to lip sync, and he wasn't having it.

Got to be the who,although I am sex pistols fan.

The pistols version was just a mess around and not meant to be put out as a single ,so this really doesnt work.

If you really want to test yourself reaction wise, I would suggest "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols from the album Never Mind the Bollocks - you will need to check that the algorithm is set to the absolute maximum for swearing and adult content! And it's actually based on real life events. Those that know, know

was that Viv Westwood on stage ? RIP

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

Yes. She used to support the boys in the early days (along with Jordan) dancing on (or next to) the stage.

Both versions for me are great, the who is much more polished and the pistols gave it the grit, no winner here for me, a draw is declared!

Here's another comparison for you, Frank sinatra doing my way and the sex pistols doing the cover!

@hanierfamily

Жыл бұрын

We know both versions of that one

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

Sinatra's version is a cover to start with.

Even as a Pistols fan and not particularly a Who fan,the Who version is better (it's their song after all). However, the Pistols version was a demo originally (that's not live despite the footage) before overdubs were added for inclusion on the Great Rock 'n' Roll soundtrack. Cannot stand Townshend's (yes,it's Pete Townshend on guitar) high pitch and suffocating backing vocals however 😫

Tis a tough one "Who " or "Pistols" think Im for the "Who" although the Energy from the Pistols is Ace !Video is a great reminder for what it was like in the Punk era ! But the Who live were just as Mental if not more "Destructive " Keith Moon made about 25 pounds in profit in 1978 ,while on Tour ! Smashing up Hotel Rooms , came at a price ! That was the year Keith died of an Alcohol replacement tablet overdose !What the doctor who advised Keith to take this, beggars belief , as if Moon would stick to the right amount !!! The vid of the Pistols is pre "Sid Vicious "Matlock was not a bad player ! Sid was clueless, bless him . Sid also did a cover of "My Way " which IMO is a lot better than Mr Sinatras ! "Rory Gallagher " watched the Pistols perform when they were on Tour in the USA ! ( They were not liked in most States ) Rory released the Album "Photo Finish " in 1978 the track "Brute Force and Ignorance " is the result of said gig ! Which is a superb track , which is Ace Live ! Cheers for now

@hanierfamily

Жыл бұрын

At one bar, where we had our Karaoke show, there was a man, named Sid, who had us put on Sinatra's version's music, but insisted on singing it like Sid's version. Quite the ornery fellow.

@ghichens3418

Жыл бұрын

@@hanierfamily Haa ! Perhaps he thought Sid was his kindred spirit ! A friend of mine who saw the Pistols in Penzance ( They toured the UK as SPOT ) Not many people realized it meant Sex Pistols On Tour !( as a lot of Venues did not want the bad publicity) .I certainly didnt ,other wise I would have been there . Any how this friend of mine got bumped into by Sid of the Vicious, at the bar ,he said !!!! "Im terribly sorry " She was proper shocked !

Pete Townsend

The Who all day long

The Who....... the Who.........👍

Who did it better...... statement not question.

@Sandy-dd4le

Жыл бұрын

Under rated comment of the entire thread, bravo sir!

The Pistols have more bite.

Sex Pistols , hands down.

Sex Pistols for sure!!!

Can't wait for my Blondie request

@SimonColey

Жыл бұрын

hmm good luck on that one

@heathcornbeef

Жыл бұрын

Hay Kevin brother the last time i saw Blondie it was a double header with The Pretenders WOW whoever put that tour together i want to hug and kiss you Man Woman or Sheep xxx 🎉❤

@heathcornbeef

Жыл бұрын

​@@SimonColey kia ora hello hay how many punkrockers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Well at least two but how the hell did they get in there?

Pistols for me. Great lyrics from the Who but Pistols brougjt energy and bile (and typically great Les Paul playing from Jonsey). Bonus point for Shane McGowan popping up in the vid too.

John Entwhistle looks like a serial killer here, that takes the win.

@ghichens3418

Жыл бұрын

@tecdessus boom , boom

@a.k.1740

Жыл бұрын

You're not far from the truth. Actually, John Entwistle was a bass serial killer!😉

@ghichens3418

Жыл бұрын

@@a.k.1740 Yep !too right

@Sandy-dd4le

Жыл бұрын

@@a.k.1740 actually, between Who tours, John worked in cereal distribution for another band, they were called, Haulin' Oats

God save king charles 👑💩 Haha sorry. The Sex Pistols got me riled up. But yeah The Who were better. #EndMonarchy

Seen both , and the Pistols blew my socks off live , Who i didnt really like , but the Who are better on this song , and the Pistols terrible

The main difference would be that The Who, didn't suck.

The Who looks and sounds dated and goofy. The Pistols looked great and full of spit and vinegar.

Got to be the Who every day of the week, I didn't like the Sex Pistols.

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

@tecdessus There was "Punk" before the Pistols, they just became the front men for it.

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

Tough 😏

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

​@tecdessus Yawn 🥱 Another idiot who has fallen for that bullshit that the Pistols were somehow "manufactured" by McLaran. They approached Malcolm to manage them. Malcolm & Westwood had a shop,Matlock was a Saturday boy there,Jones & Cook frequented (& stole) there. Rotten had been seen and was approached to audition for the band (although Westwood claimed it was actually Sid Vicious that she had meant). Rotten was then invited to join the group. The group started wearing a lot of their designs later and certainly I don't think McLaren was that bothered about the music.

@normandavidtidiman9918

Жыл бұрын

​@@SPKdesign1What "punk" was that then? 🤔

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

@@normandavidtidiman9918 Sex Pistols released their first single in 77 by then Sham 69, Richard Hell and Slaughter and the Dogs had been gigging for a while. The Stranglers and the Ramones had been playing gigs before any of them. By 76ish bands like Black Flag, The Clash, the Damned and even The Rezillos had all been gigging. Malcolm Mclaren was just smart enough to see the trend and get in on marketing product before it got more mainstream.

Pete Townsend

@hanierfamily

Жыл бұрын

We remembered it during editing. Plain as day. Ugh!

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

@@hanierfamily I often have to phone folk in the middle of the night to tell them something I've just remembered. It's usually a name.

@SPKdesign1

Жыл бұрын

@tecdessus That's ok, I don't mind being corrected.